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Re: PMB deserve Some credit despite d Inconclusive Election. A counter 2 Ben Bruce by Nobody: 7:15pm On Mar 21, 2016
JuliettaBitch:
Zombie personified
u hate truth and objectivity. U dwell only on emotions.

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Re: PMB deserve Some credit despite d Inconclusive Election. A counter 2 Ben Bruce by SeverusSnape(m): 7:17pm On Mar 21, 2016
tuale4u:
u hate truth and objectivity. U dwell only on emotions.
Hehehehehehehehehehe grin
It's you that like truth. Funny.

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Re: PMB deserve Some credit despite d Inconclusive Election. A counter 2 Ben Bruce by Nobody: 7:21pm On Mar 21, 2016
SeverusSnape:

Hehehehehehehehehehe grin
It's you that like truth. Funny.

if u like truth, u will agree dat many of d election declared inconclusive today would have be declared conclusive under previous govt even if d rigging, violence etc are worse than what we have now.

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Re: PMB deserve Some credit despite d Inconclusive Election. A counter 2 Ben Bruce by SeverusSnape(m): 7:23pm On Mar 21, 2016
tuale4u:


if u like truth, u will agree dat many of d election declared inconclusive today would have be declared conclusive under previous govt even if d rigging, violence etc are worse than what we have now.
Dey there dey deceive yourself. Trash upon trash, That's what you keep writing.

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Re: PMB deserve Some credit despite d Inconclusive Election. A counter 2 Ben Bruce by Nobody: 7:26pm On Mar 21, 2016
SeverusSnape:

Dey there dey deceive yourself. Trash upon trash, That's what you keep writing.
u will see it as trash because you are insincere.

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Re: PMB deserve Some credit despite d Inconclusive Election. A counter 2 Ben Bruce by Iykopee(m): 7:35pm On Mar 21, 2016
Zombies on the loose to defend crass incompetence. grin

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Re: PMB deserve Some credit despite d Inconclusive Election. A counter 2 Ben Bruce by eziokwubundunuwa: 7:35pm On Mar 21, 2016
APC is really being surprisingly nice to their own disadvantage. It seems they are not keen on holding on to their hard earned power.

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Re: PMB deserve Some credit despite d Inconclusive Election. A counter 2 Ben Bruce by 3sha4lyf: 7:36pm On Mar 21, 2016
Nigeria is in trouble and I blame our leaders for chasing away Ghanaian teachers who would have impacted common sense into us years ago.
Which is better?
To release FALSE RESULTS OR to certify accurate results?
A case in point is the Rivers State issue.
Flashback to 2015 elections. APC, international observers, non-partisan citizens etc. cried out that the elections should be cancelled cos it was marred seriously with violence and malpractices. They alleged that the PDP used federal might cum dss, military, police, navy, militants, etc to intimidate and marginalise dem from voting. There were killings...BB snatching, name it. APC ppl were overwhelmed and caught unawares. Now,instead of someone to do the right thing and investigate, the person went ahead to release results, all because she was working in tandem with the federal govt.

In 2016, the Rerun was marred by a different version of violence and malpractices. Both parties were prepared! PDP will repeat what they did in the last elections, APC were fully charged to match violence for violence. Infact, Supreme Court verdict even stirred the venom Sef. The only difference was that APC had the military etc with the inactivity of the federal Boss, PMB. Of course we know the outcome. Amazingly, the PDP was crying out like the APC did last year and immediately gained public sympathy simply cos people hate PMB for no just cause. The REC, seeing what happened, suspended actions until reports from fieldworkers return, JUST LIKE JEGA DID when he sent 3 "PDP" fieldworkers to investigate the malpractice claims for 3 days. He would rather release clear results than concocted ones.

Now instead of people to do some critical analysis, they just put blame on PMB and say INEC is incompetent. Did INEC put guns and matches in the hands of rivers people? If you conduct a rerun in the north today, it will be peaceful. I'm sure Results will come out. But south-south, okpari! Look at rivers and bayelsa. Even if you put Obama and Donald Trump to conduct it, there will still be violence and malpractices becos the missiles are still with the boys, and are willing to be use their WMDs.

I pity/pray for Edo state, which is coming up soon. God help them. But please leave all these childish zombie talks. They sound like stuffs illiterates actually gut out. And it's even funny when someone says it and still calls PMB an illiterate. Who's more illiterate?

Let's have mature discussions on NL when serious issues like this pop up. Neither INEC nor PMB is to be blamed for Rivers rerun results' mishap. It's we Rivers People.

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Re: PMB deserve Some credit despite d Inconclusive Election. A counter 2 Ben Bruce by Nobody: 7:43pm On Mar 21, 2016
3sha4lyf:
Nigeria is in trouble and I blame our leaders for chasing away Ghanaian teachers who would have impacted common sense into us years ago.
Which is better?
To release FALSE RESULTS OR to certify accurate results?
A case in point is the State issue.
Flashback to 2015 elections. APC, international observers, non-partisan citizens etc. cried out that the elections should be cancelled cos it was marred seriously with violence and malpractices. They alleged that the PDP used federal might cum dss, military, police, navy, militants, etc to intimidate and marginalise dem from voting. There were killings...BB snatching, name it. APC ppl were overwhelmed and caught unawares. Now,instead of someone to do the right thing and investigate, the person went ahead to release results, all because she was working in tandem with the federal govt.

In 2016, the Rerun was marred by a different version of violence and malpractices. Both parties were prepared! PDP will repeat what they did in the last elections, APC were fully charged to match violence for violence. Infact, Supreme Court verdict even stirred the venom Sef. The only difference was that APC had the military etc with the inactivity of the federal Boss, PMB. Of course we know the outcome. Amazingly, the PDP was crying out like the APC did last year and immediately gained public sympathy simply cos people hate PMB for no just cause. The REC, seeing what happened, suspended actions until reports from fieldworkers return, JUST LIKE JEGA DID when he sent 3 "PDP" fieldworkers to investigate the malpractice claims for 3 days. He would rather release clear results than concocted ones.

Now instead of people to do some critical analysis, they just put blame on PMB and say INEC is incompetent. Did INEC put guns and matches in the hands of rivers people? If you conduct a rerun in the north today, it will be peaceful. I'm sure Results will come out. But south-south, okpari! Look at rivers and bayelsa. Even if you put Obama and Donald Trump to conduct it, there will still be violence and malpractices becos the missiles are still with the boys, and are willing to be use their WMDs.

I pity/pray for Edo state, which is coming up soon. God help them. But please leave all these childish zombie talks. They sound like stuffs illiterates actually gut out. And it's even funny when someone says it and still calls PMB an illiterate. Who's more illiterate?

Let's have mature discussions on NL when serious issues like this pops up. Neither INEC nor PMB is to be blamed for Rivers rerun results' mishap. It's we Rivers People.

Thank you

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Re: PMB deserve Some credit despite d Inconclusive Election. A counter 2 Ben Bruce by 0YorubaParapo0: 7:43pm On Mar 21, 2016
SeverusSnape:

Igbos??... You Try, I think say na IPOD

And this is when you tell me the difference between the two right?
Re: PMB deserve Some credit despite d Inconclusive Election. A counter 2 Ben Bruce by SeverusSnape(m): 7:44pm On Mar 21, 2016
0YorubaParapo0:

And this is when you tell me the difference between the two right?
I know for you??... tongue
Re: PMB deserve Some credit despite d Inconclusive Election. A counter 2 Ben Bruce by 0YorubaParapo0: 7:45pm On Mar 21, 2016
3sha4lyf:
Nigeria is in trouble and I blame our leaders for chasing away Ghanaian teachers who would have impacted common sense into us years ago.
Which is better?
To release FALSE RESULTS OR to certify accurate results?
A case in point is the State issue.
Flashback to 2015 elections. APC, international observers, non-partisan citizens etc. cried out that the elections should be cancelled cos it was marred seriously with violence and malpractices. They alleged that the PDP used federal might cum dss, military, police, navy, militants, etc to intimidate and marginalise dem from voting. There were killings...BB snatching, name it. APC ppl were overwhelmed and caught unawares. Now,instead of someone to do the right thing and investigate, the person went ahead to release results, all because she was working in tandem with the federal govt.

In 2016, the Rerun was marred by a different version of violence and malpractices. Both parties were prepared! PDP will repeat what they did in the last elections, APC were fully charged to match violence for violence. Infact, Supreme Court verdict even stirred the venom Sef. The only difference was that APC had the military etc with the inactivity of the federal Boss, PMB. Of course we know the outcome. Amazingly, the PDP was crying out like the APC did last year and immediately gained public sympathy simply cos people hate PMB for no just cause. The REC, seeing what happened, suspended actions until reports from fieldworkers return, JUST LIKE JEGA DID when he sent 3 "PDP" fieldworkers to investigate the malpractice claims for 3 days. He would rather release clear results than concocted ones.

Now instead of people to do some critical analysis, they just put blame on PMB and say INEC is incompetent. Did INEC put guns and matches in the hands of rivers people? If you conduct a rerun in the north today, it will be peaceful. I'm sure Results will come out. But south-south, okpari! Look at rivers and bayelsa. Even if you put Obama and Donald Trump to conduct it, there will still be violence and malpractices becos the missiles are still with the boys, and are willing to be use their WMDs.

I pity/pray for Edo state, which is coming up soon. God help them. But please leave all these childish zombie talks. They sound like stuffs illiterates actually gut out. And it's even funny when someone says it and still calls PMB an illiterate. Who's more illiterate?

Let's have mature discussions on NL when serious issues like this pops up. Neither INEC nor PMB is to be blamed for Rivers rerun results' mishap. It's we Rivers People.


NL doesn't have this type of intelligent posts anymore. It's now overrun with tasteless ipads i.e the tout I've been quoting on this thread.

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Re: PMB deserve Some credit despite d Inconclusive Election. A counter 2 Ben Bruce by Paperwhite(m): 7:46pm On Mar 21, 2016
When one thought he has seen the much ass-lickers of this government can offer,they will then dispel your amazement with crass stupidity raised to unimaginable propotions.I regret being a Nigerian.

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Re: PMB deserve Some credit despite d Inconclusive Election. A counter 2 Ben Bruce by Nobody: 7:50pm On Mar 21, 2016
eziokwubundunuwa:
APC is really being surprisingly nice to their own disadvantage. It seems they are not keen on holding on to their hard earned power.

The truth is dat people are yet to recognise it. That is why some APC members are not happy with PMB

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Re: PMB deserve Some credit despite d Inconclusive Election. A counter 2 Ben Bruce by obailala(m): 7:53pm On Mar 21, 2016
3sha4lyf:
Nigeria is in trouble and I blame our leaders for chasing away Ghanaian teachers who would have impacted common sense into us years ago.
Which is better?
To release FALSE RESULTS OR to certify accurate results?
A case in point is the State issue.
Flashback to 2015 elections. APC, international observers, non-partisan citizens etc. cried out that the elections should be cancelled cos it was marred seriously with violence and malpractices. They alleged that the PDP used federal might cum dss, military, police, navy, militants, etc to intimidate and marginalise dem from voting. There were killings...BB snatching, name it. APC ppl were overwhelmed and caught unawares. Now,instead of someone to do the right thing and investigate, the person went ahead to release results, all because she was working in tandem with the federal govt.

In 2016, the Rerun was marred by a different version of violence and malpractices. Both parties were prepared! PDP will repeat what they did in the last elections, APC were fully charged to match violence for violence. Infact, Supreme Court verdict even stirred the venom Sef. The only difference was that APC had the military etc with the inactivity of the federal Boss, PMB. Of course we know the outcome. Amazingly, the PDP was crying out like the APC did last year and immediately gained public sympathy simply cos people hate PMB for no just cause. The REC, seeing what happened, suspended actions until reports from fieldworkers return, JUST LIKE JEGA DID when he sent 3 "PDP" fieldworkers to investigate the malpractice claims for 3 days. He would rather release clear results than concocted ones.

Now instead of people to do some critical analysis, they just put blame on PMB and say INEC is incompetent. Did INEC put guns and matches in the hands of rivers people? If you conduct a rerun in the north today, it will be peaceful. I'm sure Results will come out. But south-south, okpari! Look at rivers and bayelsa. Even if you put Obama and Donald Trump to conduct it, there will still be violence and malpractices becos the missiles are still with the boys, and are willing to be use their WMDs.

I pity/pray for Edo state, which is coming up soon. God help them. But please leave all these childish zombie talks. They sound like stuffs illiterates actually gut out. And it's even funny when someone says it and still calls PMB an illiterate. Who's more illiterate?

Let's have mature discussions on NL when serious issues like this pops up. Neither INEC nor PMB is to be blamed for Rivers rerun results' mishap. It's we Rivers People.
Thanks you very much!

The imbecility that has bedevilled our youths (and adults alike) these days is frightening. I feel embarrassed being a Nigerian when I see some of these comments; I was even more embarrassed seeing Sen Ben Bruce (who should know better) making the same senseless comments scolding INEC for suspending announcement of the Rivers election results. I just can't understand how some people think.

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Re: PMB deserve Some credit despite d Inconclusive Election. A counter 2 Ben Bruce by freeze001(f): 8:05pm On Mar 21, 2016
obailala:
Thanks you very much!

The imbecility that has bedevilled our youths (and adults alike) these days is frightening. I feel embarrassed being a Nigerian when I see some of these comments; I was even more embarrassed seeing Sen Ben Bruce (who should know better) making the same senseless comments scolding INEC for suspending announcement of the Rivers election results. I just can't understand how some people think.

INEC cannot be completely exonerated. Despite all the time they take to prepare they are never able to provide materials and logistics to satisfaction, why is that? This is an institutional problem that needs to be tackled. On election days vehicular movement is limited so what stops them with all the materials at their disposal from arriving early enough to set up and settle to do their jobs?

Accreditation would be scheduled for 8am for instance and yet even at noon until the afternoon, they are nowhere to be found in some polling units! Some ballot papers would have names of parties excluded, what manner of ineptitude? What stops them from requesting and ensuring live coverage at all polling booths? That way every activity down to counting of votes and announcements are on record.

Apart from INEC, the major issue again is the security personnel that forever align themselves with the government of the day, never maintaining neutrality and strict compliance. Before long they are involved in ballot snatching and intimidation of even the INEC personnel so where does that leave the electorate?

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Re: PMB deserve Some credit despite d Inconclusive Election. A counter 2 Ben Bruce by OlujobaSamuel: 8:22pm On Mar 21, 2016
freeze001:


INEC cannot be completely exonerated. Despite all the time they take to prepare they are never able to provide materials and logistics to satisfaction, why is that? This is an institutional problem that needs to be tackled. On election days vehicular movement is limited so what stops them with all the materials at their disposal from arriving early enough to set up and settle to do their jobs?

Accreditation would be scheduled for 8am for instance and yet even at noon until the afternoon, they are nowhere to be found in some polling units! Some ballot papers would have names of parties excluded, what manner of ineptitude? What stops them from requesting and ensuring live coverage at all polling booths? That way every activity down to counting of votes and announcements are on record.

Apart from INEC, the major issue again is the security personnel that forever align themselves with the government of the day, never maintaining neutrality and strict compliance. Before long they are involved in ballot snatching and intimidation of even the INEC personnel so where does that leave the electorate?
disagree with you on some points, but I concur on security. on live coverage, are you kidding me? I only need to beat up the person manning it, if na robot, just find the supply source and disconnect it.
Nigeria has no infrastructure for that yet.
Re: PMB deserve Some credit despite d Inconclusive Election. A counter 2 Ben Bruce by lecturerdabo(m): 8:23pm On Mar 21, 2016
tuale4u:
Any objective and sincere mind will commend Buhari govt for inconclusive elections recorded so far as a major positive change in Nigeria recent electoral history. Anybody who believe in law and order, anybody who hate impunity will agree with me. It is a step in d right direction from extreme impunity to law,rule and order.

We should understand dat d major reason why inconclusive election is common today is because Buhari does not want to associate himself with massive rigging done with extreme impunity. And I know for sure, many APC members especially those who cross carpet from PDP are unhappy with Buhari for this. They see him as being Naive or unwise for not using his power to spread the political office held by APC. There are many like Sylva in Bayelsa, who believe Buhari may live to regret it. Many APC members in Bayelsa and Rivers are unhappy with Buhari 4 being too nice to d opposition. Because in those region all they know b4 now is dat power win election not d people.

INEC can chose to declare every election conclusive by just writing results and announcing it. That will be the end. The aggrieved can only go to court. This was d case in some of d concluded elections under previous govt. Under previous govt, Even when people protest that election was not done in their ward or LGA, result will be announced and d election will be concluded.

Case study: Bayelsa Gov Election vs Abia Gov Election.

Bayelsa election was declared inconclusive because Sylva rigged election in Bayelsa south. There was result for the election. The returning officer of Bayelsa south actually submitted result to the REC in which sylva of APC had enough lead to win d election. But INEC knew d result was rigged. After much consultation with Abuja, the REC councelled the Bayelsa South election even though he had no power to do so. if all that was important to be commended was conclusive election, Sylva would have been governor of Bayelsa today. Sylva is still dissapointed in Buhari till today for not aiding him to rig massively.

In Abia State in Aprill 11 election, the returning officers submitted result highly inflated in 3 LGA in order to cancel all d lead of APGA candidates in more than 7 LGA. The REC announce on live TV that result was cancelled. The governor of Abia State, Olisa Metuh and other PDP big win storm d collation centre with support from Abuja, the REC revised himself and declared d result he already cancelled on live TV.

Leave politics aside, we are only seeing inconclusive election because Buhari has some more degree of integrity compared to previous Nigeris govt. Buhari is not 100% perfect. I strongly believe Buhari can tolerate subtle rigging which can be at d level of some irregularities. But when it is massive and glaring like in d case of PDP in Abia state and APC in Bayelsa state, he wont tolerate it.

Case study 2: Kogi Election
In d case of kogi, d election was already clearly decided. It was declared inconclusive to fulfill all righteousness by following the rule to d letter. It could have been declared conclusive by d REC if he wanted to just d way d final result of Bayelsa was declared despite dat d margin of victory recorded by Dickson (PDP) is less than d total cancelled votes.


We should understand that reforms bring changes slowly. We should sometimes see beyond party politics and commend good tins when we see one. People who condemning PMB for inconclusive elections, may end doing themselves dis service because we all know all it takes for election to be conclusive is for the returning officer to announce result whether people voted or not. The practice announcing fake result is what made most elections in d past conclusive.

in as much we all would be happier with a perfect concluded election which is free and fair, we also should also agree that inconclusive election which lead to d will of d people is better than concluded election where d will of d people is stolen from them with total impunity.

Any non partisan Nigeria who love truth, will see truth in my article.

Is time we recognise reduction of Evil is good and positive. Because positive dont come only by increasing what is good it also come by reducing what is bad.

With impunity, to conclude election is d easiest thing.

Note: I am not a member of any political party. Aisha, APC or Buhari dont even know I exist. But i know positive good changes when i see one.

Though I don't fully aggree with your post, I want to say welldone for being articulate and calm even in responding to some provocative quotes unlike some here talking like Amaechi!!!

Thanks

#modified#
Op, hope you ve seen this thread:

» INEC Admits Fake Result Sheets In Rivers Rerun, Blames ‘Printer’s Devil’ «
Op, hope you ve seen this thread:

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Re: PMB deserve Some credit despite d Inconclusive Election. A counter 2 Ben Bruce by obailala(m): 8:26pm On Mar 21, 2016
freeze001:


INEC cannot be completely exonerated. Despite all the time they take to prepare they are never able to provide materials and logistics to satisfaction, why is that? This is an institutional problem that needs to be tackled. On election days vehicular movement is limited so what stops them with all the materials at their disposal from arriving early enough to set up and settle to do their jobs?

Accreditation would be scheduled for 8am for instance and yet even at noon until the afternoon, they are nowhere to be found in some polling units! Some ballot papers would have names of parties excluded, what manner of ineptitude? What stops them from requesting and ensuring live coverage at all polling booths? That way every activity down to counting of votes and announcements are on record.

Apart from INEC, the major issue again is the security personnel that forever align themselves with the government of the day, never maintaining neutrality and strict compliance. Before long they are involved in ballot snatching and intimidation of even the INEC personnel so where does that leave the electorate?
No doubt, INEC shares some of the blame especially in terms of their recurring logistics excuse. However, we are talking about the violence and daring/full frontal malpractices here, INEC cannot be blamed for that. INEC conducted elections in 36 states of the federation, the election in Rivers state last year was marred by the most shameful form of malpractices, the election was cancelled and rescheduled. Now the rescheduled election turns out to be far worse than the first, and most of it has been cancelled again. This obviously isnt an INEC problem cos this same INEC conducted elections in 35 other states.
Re: PMB deserve Some credit despite d Inconclusive Election. A counter 2 Ben Bruce by Nobody: 8:48pm On Mar 21, 2016
lecturerdabo:


Though I don't fully aggree with your post, I want to say welldone for being articulate and calm even in responding to some provocative quotes unlike some here talking like Amaechi!!!

Thanks

thank you

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Re: PMB deserve Some credit despite d Inconclusive Election. A counter 2 Ben Bruce by Nobody: 9:30pm On Mar 21, 2016
obailala:
Thanks you very much!

The imbecility that has bedevilled our youths (and adults alike) these days is frightening. I feel embarrassed being a Nigerian when I see some of these comments; I was even more embarrassed seeing Sen Ben Bruce (who should know better) making the same senseless comments scolding INEC for suspending announcement of the Rivers election results. I just can't understand how some people think.

sometimes common sense is not common.

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Re: PMB deserve Some credit despite d Inconclusive Election. A counter 2 Ben Bruce by Nobody: 10:54pm On Mar 21, 2016
All PDP fans kw how to insult very well, that's all they do, they don't kw wat is constructive criticism.
To criticize a govt is right. So as to make them work harder.
But what have notices is that PDP followers neva say anything meaningful other than
1. Its propaganda
2. APC followers are zombies
3. I blame buhari.
Is this how to criticize the govt to make them work better?
Because ur party is not in power, u prefer negative News to prove the present party in power is incompetent.
This shows that most PDP follower do have Nigeria at heart but their party.
Am not surprise as most of them are iPob.


Oya start raining ur insult.

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Re: PMB deserve Some credit despite d Inconclusive Election. A counter 2 Ben Bruce by Sufdavinci(m): 11:18pm On Mar 21, 2016
SeverusSnape:

Dey there dey deceive yourself. Trash upon trash, That's what you keep writing.

This SeverusSnape always reason like fayose.

I ditaste lack of common sense and worst of all, these are future leaders of this country.

The op has valid points in my opinion. Buhari can choose to give just a phone call and d whole story of PDP will change for d worst and nothing will happen but he didn't do dat.

We lack patience. Slow and steady we will get to the promise land. Rome was not built in a day please.

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Re: PMB deserve Some credit despite d Inconclusive Election. A counter 2 Ben Bruce by Nobody: 12:19am On Mar 22, 2016
charliboy654:
All PDP fans kw how to insult very well, that's all they do, they don't kw wat is constructive criticism.
To criticize a govt is right. So as to make them work harder.
But what have notices is that PDP followers neva say anything meaningful other than
1. Its propaganda
2. APC followers are zombies
3. I blame buhari.
Is this how to criticize the govt to make them work better?
Because ur party is not in power, u prefer negative News to prove the present party in power is incompetent.
This shows that most PDP follower do have Nigeria at heart but their party.
Am not surprise as most of them are iPob.


Oya start raining ur insult.

they are emotionally driven.
Re: PMB deserve Some credit despite d Inconclusive Election. A counter 2 Ben Bruce by dunkem21(m): 12:35am On Mar 22, 2016
charliboy654:
All PDP fans kw how to insult very well, that's all they do, they don't kw wat is constructive criticism.
To criticize a govt is right. So as to make them work harder.
But what have notices is that PDP followers neva say anything meaningful other than
1. Its propaganda
2. APC followers are zombies
3. I blame buhari.
Is this how to criticize the govt to make them work better?
Because ur party is not in power, u prefer negative News to prove the present party in power is incompetent.
This shows that most PDP follower do have Nigeria at heart but their party.
Am not surprise as most of them are iPob.


Oya start raining ur insult.

Get your facts right .. APC middle name is insults ..

Remember, SHEPOPOTAMUS dumbo, drunkard ..name it


APC relied on negative news to mask GEJ as incompetent but now they are seeing gross incompetence and shielding it ..

You still insulted people here undecided

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