BascoVanVeli:


Ok give me Watford, Stoke, Aston Villa, Newcastle, Swansea and a sprinkle of leicester.
If we go as a whole Nigeria is not far from England in graduating top professionals. They have players in one country we have players all over the world. Our academies help provide jobs for young men to help take care of themselves and their families. For every great English player u name i will counters you with a Nigerian past or present. No striker they have ever had was better than Yekini.

tbaba1234:


He was eligible for Russia. It has nothing to do with skin color.

TheGoodJoe:


Shearer's accuracy was flawless. I will pick Shearer but, I believe most of our African top stars had better talents. Most times, they educated themselves as youngsters. That is why I see our current crop paving the way for more stars. We are getting more exposure. Our academies are growing and in few years, we will improve.

I feel Finidi who was one time the best winger in the World would have been better if he grew up in a top Academy like the Ajax or Arsenal's Academy.

BascoVanVeli:

i am having a tough time understanding ur reasoning. How can u blame Nigerian academies for anything. He made it to be the best in the world so it is mission accomplished. Can u blame ur school if u graduate get a great job and get fired 10 years later?

Yekini was our Moses, he just never got to see the promise land.
His accuracy was just as flawless as Shearer but Shearer was not half as strong. Injuries slowed him down simple and plain. I don't believe anyone who actually watched both would be so sure that Shearer was better.

TheGoodJoe:


Is the quality of education you gain from Massachusetts Institute of Technology the same as what you gain from ABSU?

Yekini was a top player but if he grew up in better conditions and worked under better coaches, he would have done or achieve more.

If Success works under a better Coach and in a better team, he will perform better.

So a bright student in IMSU will perform better in a better environment. So I believe our stars who we celebrate and respect today would have performed better if groomed under better conditions.

BascoVanVeli:

Yes and if Pele was raised in England he would have been god.

BascoVanVeli:

Yes and if Pele was raised in England he would have been god.

TheGoodJoe:



Do you think Isaac Success will improve as a player if he leaves Granada to Watford?

BascoVanVeli:


I want him to stay at Granada. He can keep improving there with a coach who knows and trusts him. Already PSG and Valencia are keeping tabs on him so he isn't doing that bad.

BascoVanVeli:


I want him to stay at Granada. He can keep improving there with a coach who knows and trusts him. Already PSG and Valencia are keeping tabs on him so he isn't doing that bad.

BascoVanVeli:


I want him to stay at Granada. He can keep improving there with a coach who knows and trusts him. Already PSG and Valencia are keeping tabs on him so he isn't doing that bad.

tbaba1234:
I like Umar Sadiq but as an Arsenal supporter, i am wondering why Wenger wants to buy an unproven kid, again.

Sadiq would most likely not play when he comes and would be loaned out.

Icon4s:


Exactly my point. He seems aggrieved. I loved Finidi die those days. He was at one point the best Right winger in Europe. He was with Ajax then with Nwankwo Kanu. Simultaneously then Amuneke was in Barca and was adjudged to be the best Left footed player in the World! Oh Glory days of Nigerian football. But see where we are today

forgiveness:



What we are saying is Amuneke or whosever is there should set his eyes only on the best. Osimhen and Nwakali might turn over out to be average when you compare them to Ross Barkley and Dele Ali. That's the point.


So, do you mean if we add Ross Barkley, Dele Ali, David Alaba and Jordon Ibe to our national team, they will not add value?

Who is better than Ross, Ali and Alaba in our present national team?

amagunnerfan:
When I remember Finidi, I always say "who is Figo, who is Beckham's father" I will argue it from now till tomorrow, Finidi was better than both players ( on the wing) but off course, he is African, that's his crime for not been recognised as the aforementioned duo.

amagunnerfan:
Na, from your list, only Alaba is worth it. Ross have been inconsistent, we can't say we have really missed much yet. Ali is in his first season. Wait till he shows what he is showing now again next season before we conclude.

If Kelechi was English, I am sure he would be playing more games and getting more goals and assists.

Compare Kelechi's game time and stats against that of Alli and Ross and you will see the wide difference.

TheGoodJoe:


You want him to stay at Granada. He should continue working with the Granada Coach instead of working with a brilliant Quique Sanchez Flores at Watford.

Icon4s:


Welcome on board.

amagunnerfan:
Na, from your list, only Alaba is worth it. Ross have been inconsistent, we can't say we have really missed much yet. Ali is in his first season. Wait till he shows what he is showing now again next season before we conclude.

If Kelechi was English, I am sure he would be playing more games and getting more goals and assists.

Compare Kelechi's game time and stats against that of Alli and Ross and you will see the wide difference.

BascoVanVeli:


Yez.

forgiveness:


But those boys are good too. I love Ross style of play.

If we add those three players to team, don't you think we have added more quality and competition?

TheGoodJoe:


That cousin is abroad with better opportunities than the other kids in Nigeria. He should use those opportunities to grow and make himself a better footballer. When he is at a top level, he is welcome to come and help raise the level of Nigerian football.

As long as he feels Nigerian.

forgiveness:


No sane country regards winning U17 as a big thing. They focus on the highest goal. What only the big boys win. The World Cup.


Wait and see what they will win. Afterall, Alaba don win more than.....

amagunnerfan:
I totally agree with you Joe, however, I think it will be better if the NFF just do not ignore them, talk to them, get someone to visit these players and reassure them.

Let them know they are valued and their time will come. Why do you think for instance Academy players hardly leave Arsenal unless Arsenal releases them? Because they need the needed reassurance from Wenger himself.

Our Under 17 should be made of the local boys but those foreign based within the age grade should be talked in order to prepare them for the under 20/21.

TheGoodJoe:


I agree with you. Even though they are not called up, they should know they are part of the team and will participate in future tournaments for us.

That will give them a sense of belonging and future interest.

TheGoodJoe:


And you believe Iwobi would develop faster at Sunderland than at Arsenal.

BascoVanVeli:

i am having a tough time understanding ur reasoning. How can u blame Nigerian academies for anything. He made it to be the best in the world so it is mission accomplished. Can u blame ur school if u graduate get a great job and get fired 10 years later?

Yekini was our Moses, he just never got to see the promise land.
His accuracy was just as flawless as Shearer but Shearer was not half as strong. Injuries slowed him down simple and plain. I don't believe anyone who actually watched both would be so sure that Shearer was better.

TheGoodJoe:



Do you think Isaac Success will improve as a player if he leaves Granada to Watford?

amagunnerfan:
Djimi Traoré has won the Champions league, Ronaldo De Lima hasn't. And you may argue De Lima won other things, fact is, winning stuffs at club leave doesn't mean you are better than other players. Gerrard never won the Premier league, Anderson, Nani, Silvestre, Cygan among others did.

forgiveness:


But those boys are good too. I love Ross style of play.

If we add those three players to team, don't you think we have added more quality and competition?

BascoVanVeli:

but Alaba has been on the world 11 for some time now.

BascoVanVeli:

but Alaba has been on the world 11 for some time now.