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Re: Chris And Anita Oyakhilome: The Truth You Never Knew by Gombs(m): 9:19pm On Mar 24, 2016 |
vooks: I will quote you this once, as i am not trying to convince you, but make viewers see how myopic your bible knowledge is... this is not a vulgarity session, you, my friend have a very minute bible knowledge. In Numbers 12:1, Moses' wife became the apparent reason for Miriam and Aaron's rebellion against Moses. Numbers 12:1 Miriam and Aaron began to talk against Moses because of his Cushite wife, for he had married a Cushite. (NIV) you for some reasons beyond biblical truths claims they are same woman, that she is a Cushite dwelling in Midian. You went further to claim that the father was A CUSHITE who became a chief in Midian, your reasons being that Joseph et al did same in foreign lands. I did not want to drag it further with you, as your bible knowledge is slimier than a needle's tip, i held my peace. To make one last move to edify you, let me point this out. The bible called Zipporah's father a Priest of Midian, and his ancestry is traced to Midian, Abraham's son. He was a full blooded Midianite. HE WAS NOT A MIGRANT. I have already showed you that your Cushite Midianicans theory is complete baloney. Moses married this midianite, had kids even before he went to set Israel free from Egypt, along with Aaron. Aaron must have met his sister-in-law, and so must have Miriam. Therefore, the Cushite lady in the book of Numbers could not have been Zipporah...for there would be no need for the anger towards the lady he married especially before the law. And, if this reference was to Zipporah, whether in regards to her skin color or ethnicity, it is somewhat remarkable that Aaron and Miriam's displeasure would begin so late. They certainly would have lots of time to have expressed it previously on the Exodus. Moses married a midianite before the law, and after the law, he wasn't supposed to marry outside the law. That was Aaron's and Miriam's anger, that he not only broke the law, but married outside the covenant. Miriam and Aaron may not have liked that Moses was initially married to a Midianite but they would have understood the extenuating circumstances that led to that union (it happened before the law). Now, here goes Moses marrying outside of the Israelites again! As Zipporah is never again mentioned (chronologically) in the text, it is quite logical to assume Moses' Midianite wife had died and Moses had now, shortly after, married another woman who was Cushite. God's subsequent vindication of Moses, in the face of Miriam and Aaron's displeasure, implies that Moses had done no wrong in the circumstances leading to their actions. As can be seen throughout the Old Testament, God is normally quite willing to call out leaders for the wrong actions, either directly or through those around them. Zipporah's death can be reasonably assumed. Remember in the midst of their journey, as they were at an "encampment" (KJV says "inn", God struck Moses with a very serious illness for failing to circumcise his son (likely the younger one Eliezer). It appears that he was so sick that he was unable to do it himself, so Zipporah did it. Her words that followed to Moses were "Surely you are a husband of blood to me!" (Ex 4:25). Most believe that she was opposed to infant circumcision (as were her Midianite people), so Moses did not perform the circumcision in order to please her. However, when she saw that God would take her husband's life for failing to do so, she did it herself, but the ritual disgusted her, thus her words to Moses. After this event, we see Moses meeting up with Aaron and heading for Egypt (Ex 4:27-31). We do not hear about Zipporah and the two boys again until (Ex 18:1-7). In (Ex 18:1-7) we see that Jethro is going to go visit Moses, taking with him Zipporah "after he had sent her back" (Ex 18:2). So, clearly, Moses had sent her away to Jethro at some point. Verses 1-7 tell us about this visit of Jethro, and the reunion of Zipporah and the two sons with Moses. Because there is no mention of Zipporah and the boys after the circumcision until the reunion, nearly everyone agrees that they likely returned to Jethro right after that event. Therefore, the time for their return was right before Moses went to Egypt. In all, it is clear Zipporah and the Cushite were two different people! Miriam and Aaron were angry he married outside the law, God vindicated him because, he should have paid dearly for breaking the law, but for the record, the Law only banned Israelites from taking wives of "those who live in the land," namely the peoples/nations who were under God's judgment in the land of Canaan (Exodus 34:15-16). Moses therefore did no wrong in taking a subsequent wife who was a Cushite. |
Re: Chris And Anita Oyakhilome: The Truth You Never Knew by vooks: 10:08pm On Mar 24, 2016 |
Gombs:Mighty glad you have outgrown m0ronic gifs. But I doubt you can help yourself for long In Numbers 12:1, Moses' wife became the apparent reason for Miriam and Aaron's rebellion against Moses.All true,but where is the second marriage? you for some reasons beyond biblical truths claims they are same woman, that she is a Cushite dwelling in Midian. You went further to claim that the father was A CUSHITE who became a chief in Midian, your reasons being that Joseph et al did same in foreign lands. I did not want to drag it further with you, as your bible knowledge is slimier than a needle's tip, i held my peace.Not 'some reasons', if the wife is Ethiopian, so is the father. I merely pointed at the plausibility of a Cushite being a leader in Midian contrary to your asinine assertion that his leadership in Midian militates against him being a Cushite To make one last move to edify you, let me point this out. The bible called Zipporah's father a Priest of Midian, and his ancestry is traced to Midian, Abraham's son. He was a full blooded Midianite. HE WAS NOT A MIGRANT. I have already showed you that your Cushite Midianicans theory is complete baloney.Where is 'his ancestry traced to Midian'? Let's separate hallucinations from facts Moses married this midianite, had kids even before he went to set Israel free from Egypt, along with Aaron.He married Zippy during his one 40 years of exile Aaron must have met his sister-in-law, and so must have Miriam.Bros, Zipporah and her two boys were brought to Moses in the wilderness well after they had left Egypt. This means that even if you were right, they met Zippy exactly at the same time as Moses; in the wilderness. Therefore, the Cushite lady in the book of Numbers could not have been Zipporah...for there would be no need for the anger towards the lady he married especially before the law.Don't be a m0ron. Even at this point of their murmuring, there was no Law yet against marrying non-Hebrews. But it was generally thus as seen by Abraham intervention in Isaac's marriage. They basically kept it 'within the family'. What you are doing is wondering why they never murmured earlier. One plausible reason is that Zippy had just joined Moses with her father in the wilderness And, if this reference was to Zipporah, whether in regards to her skin color or ethnicity, it is somewhat remarkable that Aaron and Miriam's displeasure would begin so late. They certainly would have lots of time to have expressed it previously on the Exodus.Again you are assuming they knew of Zippy all along and conveniently forgetting Zippy and her dad had just met them in the wilderness Moses married a midianite before the law, and after the law, he wasn't supposed to marry outside the law.There was no Law at this point against marrying non-Hebrews, if there were please show it. Secondly, their grievance was malicious and baseless. If God had at this point banned intermarriage And Moses intermarried, why would He be wroth for these servants who were zealous for His word? Recall God commended and rewarded Joshua for his zeal for the Law That was Aaron's and Miriam's anger, that he not only broke the law, but married outside the covenant. Miriam and Aaron may not have liked that Moses was initially married to a Midianite but they would have understood the extenuating circumstances that led to that union (it happened before the law). Now, here goes Moses marrying outside of the Israelites again!More nonsense. Which Law did he violate? Quote it and prove it was in place before this imagined incidence. Note, nowhere in Numbers tell you Moses remarried. They just took occasion to murmur against a HISTORICAL marriage and not a new one. As Zipporah is never again mentioned (chronologically) in the text, it is quite logical to assume Moses' Midianite wife had died and Moses had now, shortly after, married another woman who was Cushite.But this 'quite logical' is as dumb as it can get for is the Ethiopian wife mentioned after this? Does it mean she died immediately after this? This is the problem with using Google to copy paste junk and hope that you will look clever. You look more stupid. Think through whatever Oyaks belches enforce regurgitating it here God's subsequent vindication of Moses, in the face of Miriam and Aaron's displeasure, implies that Moses had done no wrong in the circumstances leading to their actions. As can be seen throughout the Old Testament, God is normally quite willing to call out leaders for the wrong actions, either directly or through those around them. Zipporah's death can be reasonably assumed.But if there was already a law against intermarriage, why would Moses be vindicated for bypassing millions of Israeli galz and marrying a non-Hebrew? Remember in the midst of their journey, as they were at an "encampment" (KJV says "inn", God struck Moses with a very serious illness for failing to circumcise his son (likely the younger one Eliezer). It appears that he was so sick that he was unable to do it himself, so Zipporah did it.Bro drop those psychedelic mushrooms. This was not in the 'midst of the journey', it was BEFORE Moses got back to Egypt from Midian, from the burning bush, before the plagues, before Exodus, before splitting the Red Sea! Her words that followed to Moses were "Surely you are a husband of blood to me!" (Ex 4:25). Most believe that she was opposed to infant circumcision (as were her Midianite people), so Moses did not perform the circumcision in order to please her. However, when she saw that God would take her husband's life for failing to do so, she did it herself, but the ritual disgusted her, thus her words to Moses.This is baseless speculation but most importantly, it was BEFORE Moses got back to Egypt from Midian After this event, we see Moses meeting up with Aaron and heading for Egypt (Ex 4:27-31). We do not hear about Zipporah and the two boys again until (Ex 18:1-7).Which means Zippy never met neither Aaron not Miriam! Blowing off both your hooves In all, it is clear Zipporah and the Cushite were two different people!How? [b]Miriam and Aaron were angry he married outside the law, God vindicated him because, he should have paid dearly for breaking the law, but for the record, the Law only banned Israelites from taking wives of "those who live in the land," namely the peoples/nations who were under God's judgment in the land of Canaan (Exodus 34:15-16; cf. Genesis 15:16). Moses therefore did no wrong in taking a subsequent wife who was a Cushite. Amateur theologian, Exodus forbade covenants with Caananites. Midian was not Canaan and not was Cush. Let me paste the entire verse for you. Exodus 34:11-16 (ESV) Observe what I command you this day. Behold, I will drive out before you the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites. 12 Take care, lest you make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land to which you go, lest it become a snare in your midst. 13 You shall tear down their altars and break their pillars and cut down their Asherim 14 (for you shall worship no other god, for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God), 15 lest you make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land, and when they LovePeddler after their gods and sacrifice to their gods and you are invited, you eat of his sacrifice, 16 and you take of their daughters for your sons, and their daughters LovePeddler after their gods and make your sons LovePeddler after their gods. The 'land' in question is Canaan. So there would have been no occasion for Aaron and Miriam to get mad. Secondly as I told you, if Moses breached or apparently breached any Law, God ought to have corrected their overzealousness instead of punishing them for attempting to obey Him. Thirdly, I'm still waiting for the record of Moses REMARRYING. Once gain, the grievance against Moses was 100% unfounded. This you got right, but not because of Exodus 34, but rather because God had used Moses to wrought wonders despite marrying Zippy the Cushite/Midianite yet it grieved Aaron and Miriam. When Zippy was reunited with Moses by his father in the wilderness, God was indifferent to her. Why would they seize that to murmur against Moses' leadership? It is quote probable that Miriam was annoyed by Jethro's system of delegation and she projected this on his daughter hence the sudden wrath Where is it recorded that Moses remarried? |
Re: Chris And Anita Oyakhilome: The Truth You Never Knew by Joagbaje(m): 8:05am On Mar 25, 2016 |
Gombs: Gombs you get time o! This long epistle is not necessary . Especially for the individual involved . It's like casting pearls to swine . Certain people are to be ignored . The truth here is simple common sense . Why would Aaron be angry over a marriage Moses had been for over 40 years ? Besides s He had no law then. Didn't Joseph marry from Egypt? Beside the father was a priest of God who had saved Moses life and ministry It's a simple common sense . but as the saying goes . Common sense is not common. 1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Like |
Re: Chris And Anita Oyakhilome: The Truth You Never Knew by Gombs(m): 8:32am On Mar 25, 2016 |
vooks: Num 12.1 Not 'some reasons', if the wife is Ethiopian, so is the father. I merely pointed at the plausibility of a Cushite being a leader in Midian contrary to your asinine assertion that his leadership in Midian militates against him being a Cushite you must have missed some medication ooo Where is 'his ancestry traced to Midian'? Let's separate hallucinations from facts Get a bible ... then study He married Zippy during his one 40 years of exile no doubt Bros, Zipporah and her two boys were brought to Moses in the wilderness well after they had left Egypt. This means that even if you were right, they met Zippy exactly at the same time as Moses; in the wilderness. Aaron was asked by God to meet Moses in the wilderness, on his way to Egypt, where he was almost whopped for circumcision blunder...get a bible, son! Don't be a m0ron. Even at this point of their murmuring, there was no Law yet against marrying non-Hebrews. But it was generally thus as seen by Abraham intervention in Isaac's marriage. They basically kept it 'within the family'. you really need a bible Again you are assuming they knew of Zippy all along and conveniently forgetting Zippy and her dad had just met them in the wilderness get a KJV There was no Law at this point against marrying non-Hebrews, if there were please show it. Exodus 34:15-16 More nonsense. Which Law did he violate? Quote it and prove it was in place before this imagined incidence. Note, nowhere in Numbers tell you Moses remarried. Exodus 34:15-16 They just took occasion to murmur against a HISTORICAL marriage and not a new one. why? But this 'quite logical' is as dumb as it can get for is the Ethiopian wife mentioned after this? Does it mean she died immediately after this? But if there was already a law against intermarriage, why would Moses be vindicated for bypassing millions of Israeli galz and marrying a non-Hebrew? In exodus 2, there was no law... by latter parts of Exodus, after the move outta Egypt, there was a law..get a KJV and visit Exodus 34:15-16
Exodus 4:24-26 New International Version (NIV) 24 At a lodging place [size=18pt] on the way[/size] , the Lord met Moses and was about to kill him. 25 But Zipporah took a flint knife, cut off her son’s foreskin and touched Moses’ feet with it. “Surely you are a bridegroom of blood to me,” she said. 26 So the Lord let him alone. (At that time she said “bridegroom of blood,” referring to circumcision.) This is baseless speculation but most importantly, it was BEFORE Moses got back to Egypt from Midian on their way to Egypt Which means Zippy never met neither Aaron not Miriam! Did Aaron meet Moses in Egypt or in the wilderness? Read Ex 4:27. Who was with Moses in verse 26? Was she invisible? How? try reading! it doesn't kill Amateur theologian, finally, some sense. This was why God vindicated him... Miriam and Aaron just thought he broke the law by marrying outside Israel. Let me paste the entire verse for you. focus on 15 and 16 The 'land' in question is Canaan. So there would have been no occasion for Aaron and Miriam to get mad. was Caanan inside Israel? or better still, was it a tribe in Israel? Secondly as I told you, if Moses breached or apparently breached any Law, God ought to have corrected their overzealousness God did... get a KJV instead of punishing them for attempting to obey Him. Thirdly, I'm still waiting for the record of Moses REMARRYING. Once gain, the grievance against Moses was 100% unfounded. your opinion This you got right, but not because of Exodus 34, but rather because God had used Moses to wrought wonders despite marrying Zippy the Cushite/Midianite yet it grieved Aaron and Miriam. When Zippy was reunited with Moses by his father in the wilderness, God was indifferent to her. Why would they seize that to murmur against Moses' leadership? It is quote probable that Miriam was annoyed by Jethro's system of delegation and she projected this on his daughter hence the sudden wrath What was her basis of annoyance? The law? [img]http://i./9DPmhpLIt6fi8.gif[/img] Where is it recorded that Moses remarried? redundance |
Re: Chris And Anita Oyakhilome: The Truth You Never Knew by Gombs(m): 8:37am On Mar 25, 2016 |
Joagbaje: I did it for the sake of viewers ni o... This long epistle is not necessary . Especially for the individual involved . It's like casting pearls to swine . Certain people are to be ignored . I will pick this wonderful advice The truth here is simple common sense . Why would Aaron be angry over a marriage Moses had been for over 40 years ? I wonder too oooo Besides s He had no law then. Didn't Joseph marry from Egypt? Beside the father was a priest of God who had saved Moses life and ministry It's a simple common sense . but as the saying goes . Common sense is not common. Gbam... He said Miriam was annoyed at Jethro's system of delegation (whatever that meant) 1 Corinthians 2:14 Be ni sir |
Re: Chris And Anita Oyakhilome: The Truth You Never Knew by Nobody: 9:02am On Mar 25, 2016 |
Gombs: BLW Inc is a Pentecostal church! In other words, it is a 'Holy Ghost church'. I have heard read this in your ROR a long time ago. I have also heard pastor say something about BLW being a catholic church. But its either he is confused about the type of christianity he preaches, or he/you do not know the definition of a pentecostal church. I understand it when you all say your church is a catholic church. The word catholic stems from the greek word 'katholikos'; which means universal. So when you say your church is catholic, you are actually saying it is universal. That means they have one practice and belief the world over. If that's the case, then all chruches are catholic! A pentecostal church is that church that emphasizes more on the gift of the holy ghost especially prophesy, speaking in tongues and healing. In otherwords, it is that church where the physical manifestaion of those gifts, is very frequent. Is speaking in tongues common in BLW? Yes! In fact, that's how they pray! (i can see you laugh already). Is healing common in BLW? The answer is a resounding YES! Infact, there is what they call atmosphere of miracles. Do they believe in prophesy? Last time i checked, this year for them, is the year of SPREADING!!! Since all these can be found in huge measures in BLW, it therefore means the BLW is a Pentecostal church! A catholic church on the other hand, is a church whose basis of faith is on the sacred scriptures and sacred traditions dating back to antiquity (first century). It is therefore not only catholic (universal), it is also apostolic. On the betrayal, you got me confused there. It seems you answered so many people all in one post and it also seems you did not get my point clearly. When i mentioned betrayal, i wasn't saying Oyakhilome was the one who betrayed CAN and PFN. I meant it the other way round. CAN and PFN were the ones who betrayed BLW and i think the whole thing was about jealousy. They felt threatened by Oyakhilome's ability to peform Miracles and they saw his ministry rising very fast. I remember in the 90s when he first started showing his Atm of miracles, he would sit down and so many letters will be piled up before him and he would pray over them. He would also say that he could see some people recieivng their healing. They would show the national stadium and how packed it was. When any church sees that kind of a rise, why do you think they wouldn't feel threatened? After the ban was when he left for his PhD in the US, i suspect. When he came back, he started showing atm of faith instead. The truth is, the ban on atm of miracles really hampered the growth of BLW in Nigeria. But there is also another benefit it has brought for the ministry. Showing atm of faith instead of just atm of miracles, has helped make more people believe in him the more. It made it more possible for many more people to stop being skeptical about where his powers came from. After the ban, he took the ministry to Southern Africa where there was the AIDS epidemic. Our loss became SA's gain. 1 Like |
Re: Chris And Anita Oyakhilome: The Truth You Never Knew by Gombs(m): 10:04am On Mar 25, 2016 |
craziebone: https://www.nairaland.com/161004/chris-oyakhilome-phoney/6#2786600 read this no ROR said what you claim I have also heard pastor say something about BLW being a catholic church. But its either he is confused about the type of christianity he preaches, or he/you do not know the definition of a pentecostal church. you are the confused one. I understand it when you all say your church is a catholic church. The word catholic stems from the greek word 'katholikos'; which means universal. So when you say your church is catholic, you are actually saying it is universal. That means they have one practice and belief the world over. If that's the case, then all chruches are catholic! A pentecostal church is that church that emphasizes more on the gift of the holy ghost especially prophesy, speaking in tongues and healing. In otherwords, it is that church where the physical manifestaion of those gifts, is very frequent. Is speaking in tongues common in BLW? Yes! In fact, that's how they pray! (i can see you laugh already). Is healing common in BLW? The answer is a resounding YES! Infact, there is what they call atmosphere of miracles. Do they believe in prophesy? Last time i checked, this year for them, is the year of SPREADING!!! Since all these can be found in huge measures in BLW, it therefore means the BLW is a Pentecostal church! Wrong!!! Read the link above, it spans far back 2008. Learn...please A catholic church on the other hand, is a church whose basis of faith is on the sacred scriptures and sacred traditions dating back to antiquity (first century). It is therefore not only catholic (universal), it is also apostolic. Another day's topic On the betrayal, you got me confused there. It seems you answered so many people all in one post and it also seems you did not get my point clearly. Exactly I remember in the 90s when he first started showing his Atm of miracles, he would sit down and so many letters will be piled up before him and he would pray over them. He would also say that he could see some people recieivng their healing. They would show the national stadium and how packed it was. When any church sees that kind of a rise, why do you think they wouldn't feel threatened? I'd have mentioned names, but.. no need. Great job bro After the ban was when he left for his PhD in the US, i suspect. When he came back, he started showing atm of faith instead. The truth is, the ban on atm of miracles really hampered the growth of BLW in Nigeria. It didn't... He went on satellite broadcast, reaching over a billion people, as against the 120 million Nigerians as at then. But there is also another benefit it has brought for the ministry. Showing atm of faith instead of just atm of miracles, has helped make more people believe in him the more. It made it more possible for many more people to stop being skeptical about where his powers came from. After the ban, he took the ministry to Southern Africa where there was the AIDS epidemic. Our loss became SA's gain. Exactly. thank you 1 Like |
Re: Chris And Anita Oyakhilome: The Truth You Never Knew by Topgainer: 6:50am On Mar 26, 2016 |
Joagbaje:But Pastor Chris never requested that the body of Christ should pray for him, he maintained that he was sinless whether he meant that his sins do not count or that he is not involved in any within the period of the separation, accusation and counter accusations. I don't know But he said we should pray for Anita. And that I have done, thanking God for delivering Anita from that pseudo Christianity and having hopes that one day Pastor Chris will also turn a new leaf, and both coming together again to promote something real |
Re: Chris And Anita Oyakhilome: The Truth You Never Knew by Gombs(m): 10:17am On Mar 26, 2016 |
Topgainer: He has, and will... Go through that prayer times with Pastor Chris, and see for yourself.
You just lied... Else, provide proof... Video is preferable.
.. And, what's wrong with that? And that I have done, Good... Now, do something more - mind your business thanking God for delivering Anita from that pseudo Christianity and having hopes that one day Pastor Chris will also turn a new leaf, and both coming together again to promote something real He said you should pray, not fantasise! 1 Like |
Re: Chris And Anita Oyakhilome: The Truth You Never Knew by Joagbaje(m): 11:07am On Mar 26, 2016 |
Topgainer: He doesn't need to . It's part of our priestly ministry as saints to pray one for another . I don't know if I should quote scripture for you on that . But My point is ,Instead of gossiping , pray! he maintained that he was sinless whether he meant that his sins do not count or that he is not involved in any within the period of the separation, accusation and counter accusations. I don't know Stop quoting what never was. He didn't say that. But he said we should pray for Anita. And that I have done, thanking God for delivering Anita from that pseudo Christianity I don't know what you mean 1 Like |
Re: Chris And Anita Oyakhilome: The Truth You Never Knew by Nobody: 10:54am On Apr 03, 2016 |
Hello @Gombs and @Joeagbaje check out this thread and have your say. https://www.nairaland.com/3026020/power-forgive-sin-pst-chris |
Re: Chris And Anita Oyakhilome: The Truth You Never Knew by eplanning: 10:26pm On Apr 05, 2016 |
dollarlander: You have a very active imaginaton... unfortunately, so full of immorality. So the millions of members we have all around the world have had no serious problems yet? Interesting. 20 years ago we were called children's church. It's funny how 20 years after, we are still refered to as children. [PSALM 103:5 comes to mind] Young people are not as stupid as you think. The fact that young people keep pouring into the church in every nation is a sign that the future belongs to us. It is clear that the Lord has given him (Dr. Chris) the nations. 2 Likes |
Re: Chris And Anita Oyakhilome: The Truth You Never Knew by 4C2215131: 12:08am On Apr 06, 2016 |
jmann2: A wise observation. |
Re: Chris And Anita Oyakhilome: The Truth You Never Knew by 4C2215131: 12:14am On Apr 06, 2016 |
ogunsam75: The stand a true believer should be gaking rather than being partisan like the originator of the post. |
Re: Chris And Anita Oyakhilome: The Truth You Never Knew by 4C2215131: 12:31am On Apr 06, 2016 |
vooks: Touche! |
Re: Chris And Anita Oyakhilome: The Truth You Never Knew by donnie(m): 1:09am On Apr 06, 2016 |
4C2215131: mtchew... SMH 2 Likes |
Re: Chris And Anita Oyakhilome: The Truth You Never Knew by 4C2215131: 1:11am On Apr 06, 2016 |
donnie: Smirk all you want, it doesn't detract from the truth one bit. |
Re: Chris And Anita Oyakhilome: The Truth You Never Knew by Image123(m): 1:21pm On Apr 08, 2016 |
Gombs: Thanks Gombs, not really interested in Jo or anyone else's point, or the primary subject of discussion. Was just caught by the Moses story. Can't say much for or against your explanation either, it is not clearly stated(in the Bible) but assumed. Thanks all the same. 3 Likes |
Re: Chris And Anita Oyakhilome: The Truth You Never Knew by hysteriabox(m): 12:40pm On May 23, 2016 |
ogunsam75: nice one. Many follow d downward spiral, hoping for the worse. If only we prayed instead of anticipating evil. This marriage failure is a dirty slap on d entire body of Christ. I prayed for reconciliation but i knew things had gone beyond repair when 1. Members of CEC started taking sides(. Like d op has done). I was a memeber at d time and i noticed d defensive posture that was taken. I spoke and read from members on both sides of d divide. It was like 'dis is d time to defend Pastor if truly i beleive him'. Same applied to members in d uk 2. When court ruled for out of court reconciliation/settlement yet... That goes a long way to reveal d kind of advisers/friends both Parties had 3. When i watched Ps Chrs on a communion service address d issue. It really broke my heart as he displayed a 'no going back', 'dis is war, choose ur ally', hiegthened ego speech. Ye dint say 'pray for us'. Dis dude said 'pray for her'. damn, dat was something. What happened to love, maturity, forgiveness, all d christlikeness he was preaching. One fact remains, nothing can change d stand of an average CEC member about dis. She was wrong...he was right. And i do understand their conviction, i just done agree with it. If a conviction breeds any fruit that doesnt glorify Christ, its not worth following d power tussle has been there since 2006. It was no news that instructions were adhered to depending on who instructed. She was head but she was in charge. |
Re: Chris And Anita Oyakhilome: The Truth You Never Knew by nynbrada: 7:57pm On May 23, 2016 |
Gombs: God bless you for this song. 3 Likes |
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