Ifedoyinmola:
I remember when I was celebrating my bday last year,I asked expected someone whom I love like crazy to come,but he is a JW,he ddnt come nd I was so hurt because it simple means he has nothing to celebrate abt me,that my existence does not really matter,I'm still hurt abt that and I think it's only one thing he can do to take that hurt away.

This is pathetic!

It shows u never loved him for his real self. U just based ur feelings on some superficial attributes. And so u wee offended when he stood by his faith, which (in my own experience too) is never a sweet thing.

And for the record, am not a JW.

tete7000:


Nonsense and senseless argument; as if Christ didn't establish an institution to preach.

So ur point is?

Achirimma:


For the records, i am not forcing you to believe and neither am i a JW member. I only gave my contribution on a topic and didn't expect you to think that you're being compelled to believe.
Besides you have not made any valid point rooted in the bible, so why cry with this long epistle here?
Besides what do you even know about catholic asides going to early morning mass to bow to a graven image which the lord abhors so much? Let me drop Daniel 7:25 for you

Come to catechism class or lay your hand on Catechism of Catholic Church, you will find enough biblical support for the Church's beliefs. I don't have time for senseless argument here.

sckulboy:
if jesus is God,who did he pray to?
if d 1st law out d 12 comandment state dat ur God is 1 den aw com d trinity in God?
after risin 4rm d death he left to wia?
n y did he left 4 wat purpose?
did mari give birth to anoda child after jesus?
if yes who mari d wife of God?
plz read d Bible

ask them o! Professors for book but simple reasoning don pass them

RobinHez:

This is what the Corinthians u mention said o... Now show us the correlation with easter

Don't know how else to explaine this to you but I found this article online please read. But the bottom line is that before Christ came we used lambs and some animals as sacrifice to clear our sins, including the Passover lamb. But Christ became the ultimate sacrifice in such a way that we need no more blood sacrifice today, even though Jews has been practicing Passover long before Christ came he still said do this in remembrance of me. ( meaning the new and ultimate lamb about to die for our sake) this gave birth to Easter . If he believes that Passover is the main thing he would not have said "do this in remembrance of me" cause that has been a tradition long before him. http://trainingleadersinternational.org/blog/210/do-this-in-remembrance-of-me-what-does-it-mean

RobinHez:

Did Christ talk about His birth? Did any of his disciples celebrate it? But yet it was recorded that they met regularly to "break bread"

Did people celebrate the birth of Jesus?(Ref:Matt 2:8-11).
How could the disciples celebrate the birth of Jesus while He walked with them and taught them?It wasn't the most important thing to His disciples then.

I think the issue is the name Easter.It's moveable nature....
However,if Christ didn't rise from the grave,we are of all men most miserable.The birth,life,death,resurrection , ascension and EVERY thing recorded about Jesus in the bible is IMPORTANT AND TRUE!!
HIS DEATH AND RESURRECTION DEALT A DEADLY BLOW ON SATAN,SIN ,DEATH and much more.
Thank God for Sending Jesus.
For those expending energy and time arguing,Hope your names are in the Book of Life?

Achirimma:


Matt 5:18-19... please do not add to the scripture o.

Lol,do you know what it means to add to the scriptures?
Is a lack of understanding of scriptures the same as adding to it?
Can you show the added part?

thorpido:
Did people celebrate the birth of Jesus?(Ref:Matt 2:8-11).
How could the disciples celebrate the birth of Jesus while He walked with them and taught them?It wasn't the most important thing to His disciples then.

Neither should it be of importance to us... We should instead preach the gospel as he commanded

RobinHez:

Neither should it be of importance to us... We should instead preach the gospel as he commanded

What is the gospel?
Can I ask you a question?When Jesus made a triumphant entry into jerusalem,the people made a rally out of it.Was it Jesus who ordered or organised it?

FBS:
Still not relevant. Next one please.

very typical of christians! Always very unwilling to face facts!

NOETHNICITY:
very typical of christians! Always very unwilling to face facts!

yeah yeah. Now move on.

Sunnycliff:
Go and sit down Femi! If you don't want to celebrate you don't disabuse the minds of people! Its just a remembrance of the resurrection day of our Lord Jesus Christ! We Pray to God through his son Jesus Christ and not to any fetish god!

Femi is actually correct. Why celebrate His death? Rather,celebrate His life by doing and following His commands as recorded in Matthew,Mark,Luke and John only

blueseacats:
Don't know how else to explaine this to you but I found this article online please read. But the bottom line is that before Christ came we used lambs and some animals as sacrifice to clear our sins, including the Passover lamb. But Christ became the ultimate sacrifice in such a way that we need no more blood sacrifice today, even though Jews has been practicing Passover long before Christ came he still said do this in remembrance of me. ( meaning the new and ultimate lamb about to die for our sake) this gave birth to Easter . If he believes that Passover is the main thing he would not have said "do this in remembrance of me" cause that has been a tradition long before him. http://trainingleadersinternational.org/blog/210/do-this-in-remembrance-of-me-what-does-it-mean

Lol, we're on the same page bro! Christ is our passover lamb!

Here's an excerpt from the link u gave me..

RobinHez:


This is pathetic!
It shows u never loved him for his real self. U just based ur feelings on some superficial attributes. And so u wee offended when he stood by his faith, which (in my own experience too) is never a sweet thing.
And for the record, am not a JW.

pathetic ke! Aree!!! That I'm still hurt doesn't mean I don't love him,infact I love him more now,but it hurts because he has a blindfold on him,and I love him for his real sef like kilode and that he chose to be a JW does not define him because I bliv he is better than that. 'He stood by his faith'? That is not the faith I want him to stand on,I want him on the faith that Jesus Christ is Lord and He is the son of God and that there is a life after death and that hell is real and that at the mention of the name of Jesus Christ every knee must bow and that there is a blessing in giving tithe and that there is a body of christ called THE CHURCH and not those horrible things they feed each other,I just wish they all get to knw the truth,that he will get convinced one day abt the truth before it is too late. I don dey talk too much jare,ah,not love him ke,I love him o

sonOfLucifer:

Lol. ONe has to wonder what else could have been smuggled into the Bible? What about the story of Mary's virginity? Jesus' death? The Rapture? What if the Bible is a lie?

your father lucifer knows you are a disgrace to him.

thorpido:
What is the gospel?
Can I ask you a question?When Jesus made a triumphant entry into jerusalem,the people made a rally out of it.Was it Jesus who ordered or organised it?

Hahaha... I laugh at ur ignorance, but lemme show u something from the scriptures

4 This took place to fulfill what was spoken through the prophet:

5 “Say to Daughter Zion,
‘See, your king comes to you,
gentle and riding on a donkey,
and on a colt, the foal of a donkey.’”

Shey u see that the Triumphant entry was a prophecy to be fulfilled?

Or was it the chant of the people

Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!
“Hosanna in the highest heaven

Which was culled from the book of psalms?


Jesus is King! And everything was done according to prophecies made in the scriptures. But I don't see how that concerns the matter at hand though..

RobinHez:

Lol, we're on the same page bro! Christ is our passover lamb!

Here's an excerpt from the link u gave me..

Yes bro , that's why today's celebration is a necessity .

Arclan07:
Do not buy to what he hie given you it's a piece of crap get an encyclopedia or go to Wikipedia n check EASTER to get the facts though I know easter is not for xtains but do the research

I never said I buy into it or not. Read what I wrote carefully.

blueseacats:
Don't know how else to explaine this to you but I found this article online please read. But the bottom line is that before Christ came we used lambs and some animals as sacrifice to clear our sins, including the Passover lamb. But Christ became the ultimate sacrifice in such a way that we need no more blood sacrifice today, even though Jews has been practicing Passover long before Christ came he still said do this in remembrance of me. ( meaning the new and ultimate lamb about to die for our sake) this gave birth to Easter . If he believes that Passover is the main thing he would not have said "do this in remembrance of me" cause that has been a tradition long before him. http://trainingleadersinternational.org/blog/210/do-this-in-remembrance-of-me-what-does-it-mean

Now you're talking but i don't understand how you just added Easter to it again o...the celebration remains passover, the only change there is Jesus becoming the sacrificial lamb. You know Acts 12 vs 3 shows the feast of passover and unleavened bread was celebrated even after the death of Christ.

blueseacats:
Don't know how else to explaine this to you but I found this article online please read. But the bottom line is that before Christ came we used lambs and some animals as sacrifice to clear our sins, including the Passover lamb. But Christ became the ultimate sacrifice in such a way that we need no more blood sacrifice today, even though Jews has been practicing Passover long before Christ came he still said do this in remembrance of me. ( meaning the new and ultimate lamb about to die for our sake) this gave birth to Easter . If he believes that Passover is the main thing he would not have said "do this in remembrance of me" cause that has been a tradition long before him. http://trainingleadersinternational.org/blog/210/do-this-in-remembrance-of-me-what-does-it-mean

So we stopped using lambs and started using eggs abi? dnt mind them jare, they will never understand!

RobinHez:

Hahaha... I laugh at ur ignorance, but lemme show u something from the scriptures



Shey u see that the Triumphant entry was a prophecy to be fulfilled?

Or was it the chant of the people
Which was culled from the book of psalms?


Jesus is King! And everything was done according to prophecies made in the scriptures. But I don't see how that concerns the matter at hand though..

You speak of ignorance,yet you are quoting Psalms?
Was Jesus the one who instructed in Psalms?
You see the problem with people like you?You say it is only the instruction of Jesus yet you are telling me of Psalms,the words of David?

You are using tools that you are condemning.isn't that hypocritical?
All I've been trying to show you is that it is a whole package.The prophecies before,the birth,the death and the resurrection.

tete7000:



Come to catechism class or lay your hand on Catechism of Catholic Church, you will find enough biblical support for the Church's beliefs. I don't have time for senseless argument here.

You can't even quote a portion of the bible to validate your claims, all you can dois invite meto catechism. Why not give me proper invitation, let me come and tutor your catechist because he is obviously destroying your brain and leading millions to hell

Benite:
Oga femi you are wrong
It is not the date of the celebration that is the issue but the reason for the celebration.
Any body can chose any day to celebrate whatever but the reason on your own part for celebrating is what God is interested in. As we shall be judged individually on the last day.
Remember that ones burial day can be another persons birthday.
As you are celebrating birthday another is doing remembrance day for their late ones while others are even doing idol festival day.
Does this make you a sinner because you guys choose same day?
Be Wise Mr Femi Date for Celebration is not the issue but what you on your on part is celebrating is what God sees.

You cannot say the reason is the issue. Its like saying you want to celebrate Jesus on an Olokun day or Eid El Malud and say it doesnt matter.

Eh eh,who said we are celebrating death ke,who said that fah... I don't blame you,you've actually never sat down to think of what it means to die for another person. Shey u think it's easy to die that kinda death for someone else for what you ddnt do but they did... I will rejoice always because christ loved me and still loves me,PF can do anything for me,so he said,but dat day death comes knocking at my door,he won't die my death for me o. But Jesus died for me,you now say I should not set a day aside in a year to rejoice abt that,ehn,enemies dey pursue me since,somebody con kill and defeat that enemy,u say make I no worship that person and remember that day,who cares which day it is,I wasn't there 2k yrs ago but mo gbo itan,what gives u the assurance that the day ur parents said u were born was the actual day you were born,but still u count 1 2 3 4...30yrs with that day because that is the history they've told u. They say how sure are we that dec 25 was the day christ was born,who cares,he sha did not jump down from heaven as history told me,even if he had jumped down from heaven and they tell me that on the 1st of jan,he jumped down o,I will celebrate His jumping down that day because JESUS CHRIST IS THE ONLY PERSON THAT MAKES LIVE WORTH LIVING FOR ME,




WHO IS JESUS TO YOU?!


I GUESS NOTHING,THAT'S WHY YOU FIND EXCUSES FOR UR UNSETTLED HEART.
When u give a baby a gift that is so precious,the baby is happy and dances all around the house,but you try to shut the baby up because you are not happy because the baby is happy,because the gift has no meaning to you.




















MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS
REFUSE TO BE IGNORANT

Sunnycliff:
Go and sit down Femi! If you don't want to celebrate you don't disabuse the minds of people! Its just a remembrance of the resurrection day of our Lord Jesus Christ! We Pray to God through his son Jesus Christ and not to any fetish god!

I wonder o.even if his claims seems true.we aren't celebrating Ashtoreth .we are celebrating our LORD JESUS CHRIST. Is as simple as that.

Ifedoyinmola:
Eh eh,who said we are celebrating death ke,who said that fah... I don't blame you,you've actually never sat down to think of what it means to die for another person. Shey u think it's easy to die that kinda death for someone else for what you ddnt do but they did... I will rejoice always because christ loved me and still loves me,PF can do anything for me,so he said,but dat day death comes knocking at my door,he won't die my death for me o. But Jesus died for me,you now say I should not set a day aside in a year to rejoice abt that,ehn,enemies dey pursue me since,somebody con kill and defeat that enemy,u say make I no worship that person and remember that day,who cares which day it is,I wasn't there 2k yrs ago but mo gbo itan,what gives u the assurance that the day ur parents said u were born was the actual day you were born,but still u count 1 2 3 4...30yrs with that day because that is the history they've told u. They say how sure are we that dec 25 was the day christ was born,who cares,he sha did not jump down from heaven as history told me,even if he had jumped down from heaven and they tell me that on the 1st of jan,he jumped down o,I will celebrate His jumping down that day because JESUS CHRIST IS THE ONLY PERSON THAT MAKES LIVE WORTH LIVING FOR ME,




WHO IS JESUS TO YOU?!


I GUESS NOTHING,THAT'S WHY YOU FIND EXCUSES FOR UR UNSETTLED HEART.
When u give a baby a gift that is so precious,the baby is happy and dances all around the house,but you try to shut the baby up because you are not happy because the baby is happy,because the gift has no meaning to you.




















MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS
REFUSE TO BE IGNORANT

My dear, i doubt if you have read the previous posts...the point some of us are trying to make here is that the platform on which majority of Christians celebrate the death and resurrection of Christ is very wrong.
Nobody has condemned or denied the fact that He died and rose on the 3rd day and mind you a day in the bible is from evening to evening not your normal morning to night i just hope you understand.
The Jerusalem all Christians go for pilgrimage today, have you asked yourself why they don't celebrate Easter? Since Christians go there and believe in what they do. Infact they all went to work today and students went to school.

thorpido:
You speak of ignorance,yet you are quoting Psalms?
Was Jesus the one who instructed in Psalms?
You see the problem with people like you?You say it is only the instruction of Jesus yet you are telling me of Psalms,the words of David?

You are using tools that you are condemning.isn't that hypocritical?
All I've been trying to show you is that it is a whole package.The prophecies before,the birth,the death and the resurrection.

Very Good!

Now do u have any passage in the scripture that supports the idea of celebrating Jesus's birthday or "Easter" as we know it? If yes, put it forward just as I showed u where the prophecy of the triumphant entry came from, but if no... Then stay in ur delusion and don't disturb my peace again.

Good day

Achirimma:


Now you're talking but i don't understand how you just added Easter to it again o...the celebration remains passover, the only change there is Jesus becoming the sacrificial lamb. You know Acts 12 vs 3 shows the feast of passover and unleavened bread was celebrated even after the death of Christ.

I don't know how they came about the name Easter, but that's what we all call it, but while Christians celebrate Passover with Jesus as our lamb, Jews still celebrate Passover as they did before Christ, even this period they did that in a synagogue near where I live.

Achirimma:


You can't even quote a portion of the bible to validate your claims, all you can dois invite meto catechism. Why not give me proper invitation, let me come and tutor your catechist because he is obviously destroying your brain and leading millions to hell

Your comprehension skill is poor. This is one of the problem with modern christianity. People who can't understand simple english comprehension passages want to undertake the arduous task of reading, comprehending and teaching the scripture. Every dick and harry wants to teach what they don't know. It is not for you. Go first and pass English language test. I wrote in my argument I don't waste energy in doing what has been expantiated in the catechism. Engaging in senseless competition with people like you who quote scriptures upside do me no good.

tete7000:


Your comprehension skill is poor. This is one of the problem with modern christianity. People who can't understand simple english comprehension passages want to undertake the arduous task of reading, comprehending and teaching the scripture. Every dick and harry wants to teach what they don't know. It is not for you. Go first and pass English language test. I wrote in my argument I don't waste energy in doing what has been expantiated in the catechism. Engaging in senseless competition with people like you who quote scriptures upside do me no good.

You obviously need lessons on semantics and pragmatics, all you have done so far is beg the question. I will try not to reply you again because you are no match for me in the use of English.
I feel so sad for you

Achirimma:


My dear, i doubt if you have read the previous posts...the point some of us are trying to make here is that the platform on which majority of Christians celebrate the death and resurrection of Christ is very wrong.
Nobody has condemned or denied the fact that He died and rose on the 3rd day and mind you a day in the bible is from evening to evening not your normal morning to night i just hope you understand.
The Jerusalem all Christians go for pilgrimage today, have you asked yourself why they don't celebrate Easter? Since Christians go there and believe in what they do. Infact they all went to work today and students went to school.

okay