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Re: Abducted Muslim Children Forcefully Converted To Christianity In Edo Idp Camp. by praxisnetworks: 10:10am On Mar 28, 2016 |
afoobabs: am not into that. Soul winning aint a biz...but a mandate. |
Re: Abducted Muslim Children Forcefully Converted To Christianity In Edo Idp Camp. by erusen: 10:10am On Mar 28, 2016 |
Gaddafithe2nd:read the post above yours,were a narrated the meaning of song of songs in the bible |
Re: Abducted Muslim Children Forcefully Converted To Christianity In Edo Idp Camp. by afoobabs(m): 10:14am On Mar 28, 2016 |
erusen:One tin abt xtian is that u just talking without ratifying ur say. Hw do you come to the conclusion that there ar no xtians in the northern camp get ursef educated, do research, be informed and dont rely on nairaland alone |
Re: Abducted Muslim Children Forcefully Converted To Christianity In Edo Idp Camp. by Gaddafithe2nd(m): 10:16am On Mar 28, 2016 |
soonest: Taah! Your pagan festival. Worshiping goddess of fertility. |
Re: Abducted Muslim Children Forcefully Converted To Christianity In Edo Idp Camp. by erusen: 10:17am On Mar 28, 2016 |
Gaddafithe2nd:were they Muslims or Jews?,even Jesus prayed like that because the of the mosaic law,oh please these books were written before the word Islam even began,that is Judaism my guy,forget that thing, which day dem write Quran here? 1 Like |
Re: Abducted Muslim Children Forcefully Converted To Christianity In Edo Idp Camp. by erusen: 10:19am On Mar 28, 2016 |
afoobabs:did you build churches for them?, you expect the pastor to build mosque for them? |
Re: Abducted Muslim Children Forcefully Converted To Christianity In Edo Idp Camp. by Gaddafithe2nd(m): 10:22am On Mar 28, 2016 |
erusen:Lol... Mosaic law indeed. Thank God you confessed that Jesus prayed like that why are you not doing the same. Don't tell me those verses are in Old testament because, if your pastors want to collect Tithes they would refer to Malachi. Who are you deceiving? |
Re: Abducted Muslim Children Forcefully Converted To Christianity In Edo Idp Camp. by Gaddafithe2nd(m): 10:23am On Mar 28, 2016 |
erusen:Who told you they are husband and wife. Chai! you have no point. |
Re: Abducted Muslim Children Forcefully Converted To Christianity In Edo Idp Camp. by erusen: 10:26am On Mar 28, 2016 |
, Jesus encounters a Canaanite woman who begs Him to cure her daughter. Jesus initially refuses her request by saying, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs” ( Matthew 15:26 ). Taken out of context, and especially in English, it’s easy to mistake this for an insult. In the flow of the story, however, it’s clear Jesus is creating a metaphor meant to explain the priorities of His ministry. He is also teaching an important lesson to His disciples. Jews in Jesus’ day sometimes referred to Gentiles as “dogs.” In Greek, this word is kuon , meaning “wild cur” (Matthew 7:6 ; Luke 16:21 ; Philippians 3:2 ). Non-Jews were considered so unspiritual that even being in their presence could make a person ceremonially unclean (John 18:28 ). Much of Jesus’ ministry, however, involved turning expectations and prejudices on their heads ( Matthew 11:19 ; John 4:9–10 ). According to Matthew’s narrative, Jesus left Israel and went into Tyre and Sidon, which was Gentile territory (Matthew 15:21 ). When the Canaanite woman approached and repeatedly asked for healing, the disciples were annoyed and asked Jesus to send her away (Matthew 15:23 ). At this point, Jesus explained His current ministry in a way that both the woman and the watching disciples could understand. At that time, His duty was to the people of Israel, not to the Gentiles ( Matthew 15:24 ). Recklessly taking His attention from Israel, in violation of His mission, would be like a father taking food from his children in order to throw it to their pets (Matthews 15:26). The exact word Jesus used here, in Greek, was kunarion , meaning “small dog” or “pet dog.” This is a completely different word from the term kuon , used to refer to unspiritual people or to an “unclean” animal. Jesus frequently tested people to prove their intentions, often through response questions or challenges (see John 4:16–18 ; and 4:50–53 ). His response to the Canaanite woman is similar. In testing her, Jesus declined her request and explained that she had no legitimate expectation of His help. The woman, however, lived out the principle Jesus Himself taught in the parable of the persistent widow (Luke 18:1–8 ). Her response proved that she understood fully what Jesus was saying, yet had enough conviction to ask anyway (Matthew 15:27 ). Jesus acknowledged her faith—calling it “great”—and granted her request (Matthew 15:28 ). So, according to both the context and language involved, Jesus wasn’t referring to the Canaanite woman as a “dog,” either directly or indirectly. He wasn’t using an epithet or racial slur but making a point about the priorities He’d been given by God. He was also testing the faith of the woman and teaching an important lesson to His disciples. |
Re: Abducted Muslim Children Forcefully Converted To Christianity In Edo Idp Camp. by Acczeez(m): 10:28am On Mar 28, 2016 |
Selfishness of the highest order!!! I realized people support either their tribe or religion regardless of whether they are right or wrong. If the camp is built or managed by Christians, and the management of the camp is aware that there are Muslims among the IDPs, is it not better they allow them to practice their religion in the camp or let them go. Imposing an alien religion on them is worse than what led them to the camp Be honest by putting yourself in the position of those people rather than raining insults. |
Re: Abducted Muslim Children Forcefully Converted To Christianity In Edo Idp Camp. by erusen: 10:30am On Mar 28, 2016 |
Gaddafithe2nd:my guy u are anti understanding, don't they marry in Islam, I am waisting my time ,did you even read what I wrote,is husband and wife na a sin?,guy swerve u nor wan learn,meanwhile the dog case about Jesus have been there,you ask questions but you don't want answers,you expected me not to know to say,see this one dey born us,born bible |
Re: Abducted Muslim Children Forcefully Converted To Christianity In Edo Idp Camp. by afoobabs(m): 10:34am On Mar 28, 2016 |
erusen:building mosque for them is the what the group clamour for they can still practice islam without mosque. We appreciate ur contribution to thir wellbeing but what we ar clamouring for is #stopUsingItAsOpportunityToConvertThem. Thanks |
Re: Abducted Muslim Children Forcefully Converted To Christianity In Edo Idp Camp. by afoobabs(m): 10:40am On Mar 28, 2016 |
erusen:chiarmoo ar u indirectly saying that u see noting bad in the fact that husband and wife bleeping is recorded in ur Holy booking. Or is romace/intemacy part of the teaching in ur holy book. |
Re: Abducted Muslim Children Forcefully Converted To Christianity In Edo Idp Camp. by Gaddafithe2nd(m): 10:40am On Mar 28, 2016 |
erusen:Guy your bible contains little word of God, word of man (epistles), lust and lust. |
Re: Abducted Muslim Children Forcefully Converted To Christianity In Edo Idp Camp. by erusen: 10:43am On Mar 28, 2016 |
Gaddafithe2nd:because,because because,have you heard about the Jesus saying that says ,the temple are useless in the new convenant because the new worshipers worship in truth and spirit,there is NO particular on how to position when praying, people bow down,people jumb when praying, people pray in silence,people pray with any style and posture in Christianity,no ONE formular or posture for praying,Jesus observe Judaism because he was mearnt to obey the mosaic law,to die and fulfulll it,we are NOT under the law,you know turning me into an answering machine this morning, why don't you just go a Christian,the issue tithe please do a Google search on that abeg |
Re: Abducted Muslim Children Forcefully Converted To Christianity In Edo Idp Camp. by erusen: 10:47am On Mar 28, 2016 |
Gaddafithe2nd:your Quran contains words a warlord and a destroyer,lust and lust?,my guy I waisted my time on your, you compare a book like Qur'an to the most influncial book in history? |
Re: Abducted Muslim Children Forcefully Converted To Christianity In Edo Idp Camp. by Gaddafithe2nd(m): 10:50am On Mar 28, 2016 |
erusen:But in Matthew 26 vs 39 he fell with his face now. since you are Christlike why didn't you follow the way Jesus did. Did Jesus worshipped the way you Christian did? You Christians are confused, I blamed Paul a great liar and Emperor Constantine for deceiving you. Yoga you have no point at all. |
Re: Abducted Muslim Children Forcefully Converted To Christianity In Edo Idp Camp. by erusen: 10:50am On Mar 28, 2016 |
afoobabs:hahaha not this f**k please read my earlier narrative on the song of Solomon, I can't fit talk,romance/intimacy is wrong ?tell me na abeg,and the book is even poem not an authoritative book |
Re: Abducted Muslim Children Forcefully Converted To Christianity In Edo Idp Camp. by erusen: 10:56am On Mar 28, 2016 |
Gaddafithe2nd:guy I blame your education.seriously your comprehension is dead,Paul is a better man than Mohammed ,a KILLAR ,being called a prophet, wait Christlike,so we also we should also die in the cross?,I just gave why Jesus was under the mosaic laws in order to fulfill it you nor get one muscle of understanding in your brain,you Muslims are uneducated, emperor constantine?mtceev one of those Muslim myths , |
Re: Abducted Muslim Children Forcefully Converted To Christianity In Edo Idp Camp. by Gaddafithe2nd(m): 11:03am On Mar 28, 2016 |
erusen:Haha.... Read what George Bernard Shaw said about Bible and Prophet Muhammad
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Re: Abducted Muslim Children Forcefully Converted To Christianity In Edo Idp Camp. by erusen: 11:06am On Mar 28, 2016 |
Gaddafithe2nd:what is this do u know hoemw many anti Mohammed and anti Islam qoute,how someone opinion affects mine, go to YouTube,read comment on brusells about mohammed |
Re: Abducted Muslim Children Forcefully Converted To Christianity In Edo Idp Camp. by Gaddafithe2nd(m): 11:09am On Mar 28, 2016 |
erusen: You know nothing, and you are suffering from intellectual dishonesty. leader of the Roman Empire in the 4th century, his vast territory was populated by a hodgepodge of beliefs and religions. Within his own young religion, there was also dissent, with one major question threatening to cleave the popular cult — as it was at the time — into warring factions: Was Jesus divine, and how? It's hard to imagine riots in the streets, pamphlet wars and vicious rhetoric spawned by such a question, but that was the nature of things in A.D. 325, when Constantine was forced to take action to quell the controversy. That summer, 318 bishops from across the empire were invited to the Turkish town of Nicea, where Constantine had a vacation house, in an attempt to find common ground on what historians now refer to as the Arian Controversy. It was the first ever worldwide gathering of the Church. The Christianity we know today is a result of what those men agreed upon over that sticky month, including the timing of the religion's most important holiday, Easter, which celebrates Jesus rising from the dead. Young religion Christianity was young and still working out the kinks when Constantine took power over the Roman Empire in A.D. 306. Christian doctrine at the time was muddled and inconsistent, especially when it came to the central question of Jesus' relationship to God . Jesus was as eternally divine as the Father, said one camp led by the Archbishop Alexander of Alexandria. Another group, named the Arians after their leader Arius the preacher, saw Jesus as a remarkable leader, but inferior to the Father and lacking in absolute divinity. Supporters on both sides scrawled graffiti on town walls in defiance while bishops from across the empire entered into a war of words as the controversy simmered to a head in 324. Fearing unrest in his otherwise peaceful territory, Constantine summoned the bishops to his lake house in Nicea on June 19, 325. Savvy move In a savvy move that would put today's shrewd politicians to shame, the compromise proffered by Constantine was vague, but blandly pleasing: Jesus and God were of the same "substance," he suggested, without delving too much into the nature of that relationship. A majority of the bishops agreed on the compromise and voted to pass the language into doctrine. Their statement of compromise, which would come to be known as "The Nicene Creed," formed the basis for Christian ideology. The bishops also used the Council of Nicea to set in stone some church rules that needed clarification, and those canons were the reference point after which all future laws were modeled. As a final order of business, the bishops decided upon a date for the holiest of Christian celebrations, Easter, which was being observed at different times around the empire. Previously linked with the timing of Passover, the council settled on a moveable day that would never coincide again with the Jewish holiday — the first Sunday after the first full moon on or after the vernal equinox. http://m.livescience.com/2410-council-nicea-changed-world.html |
Re: Abducted Muslim Children Forcefully Converted To Christianity In Edo Idp Camp. by Gaddafithe2nd(m): 11:15am On Mar 28, 2016 |
erusen:What metaphor? Are these chapters also a metaphor Luke 22:36 and Matthew 10:34? Guy you don't know your Bible |
Re: Abducted Muslim Children Forcefully Converted To Christianity In Edo Idp Camp. by Gaddafithe2nd(m): 11:18am On Mar 28, 2016 |
erusen:Guy please learn your Bible before arguing with me. You are just a waste, trying to mince words. Metaphor ko! Onomatopoeia no. |
Re: Abducted Muslim Children Forcefully Converted To Christianity In Edo Idp Camp. by erusen: 11:21am On Mar 28, 2016 |
Gaddafithe2nd:go school you nor gree go |
Re: Abducted Muslim Children Forcefully Converted To Christianity In Edo Idp Camp. by erusen: 11:26am On Mar 28, 2016 |
Gaddafithe2nd:ahhh,upon all the energy I take write these things,abeg leave my joor,dey go I don tire for your body,hahahaha,what the f**k have I got my seft into,seriously man you lack comprehension |
Re: Abducted Muslim Children Forcefully Converted To Christianity In Edo Idp Camp. by Gaddafithe2nd(m): 11:29am On Mar 28, 2016 |
erusen:Haha... So funny, tell me all your qualifications. You are lazy intellectually. I took you through research level. Even Femi Aribisala a pastor told you Christians that Christmas and Easter(Ishtar) are pagan festivities but you don't want to learn. Do research don't depend on what your pastors says. Let me give you an assignment, Google Tony Bushby. Have a great day and celebrate your fvcking pagan festival. |
Re: Abducted Muslim Children Forcefully Converted To Christianity In Edo Idp Camp. by Gaddafithe2nd(m): 11:30am On Mar 28, 2016 |
erusen:You are the one that your comprehension level. Read what it entails. This guy na olodo. |
Re: Abducted Muslim Children Forcefully Converted To Christianity In Edo Idp Camp. by freeze001(f): 11:30am On Mar 28, 2016 |
afoobabs: Okay they don't need mosque. They are minors as well so do u expect a private Christian organisation to hire an imam and buy koran for them to be reading? Don't they need instructions n guidance in ur islamic principles ? What about d call for prayer? Who will lead that? You can be sure that no muslim or imam will be engaged there on a regular basis to carry out these functions so since u ppl feel religion is more important than basic survival please do the needful and relocate the muslim children to the Northern areas or build a muslim idp camp anywhere and carry them. Christianity is not built on compulsion or deceit. Since there is no appreciation for their selfless humanitarian services, please get ur people together to peacefully identify and remove muslim children from the camp please. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Abducted Muslim Children Forcefully Converted To Christianity In Edo Idp Camp. by afoobabs(m): 11:38am On Mar 28, 2016 |
erusen:a romantic poem huh! But its in ur holy books. isnt it? |
Re: Abducted Muslim Children Forcefully Converted To Christianity In Edo Idp Camp. by erusen: 11:41am On Mar 28, 2016 |
afoobabs: |
Re: Abducted Muslim Children Forcefully Converted To Christianity In Edo Idp Camp. by erusen: 11:43am On Mar 28, 2016 |
Gaddafithe2nd:guy reed what I said about that verse,after reading you it was a metaphor, wentin you say make I come talk |
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