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Re: Gov.wike Live On Sunrise Daily. by cckris: 11:53am On Mar 28, 2016
otokx:


The political heat is being caused by followers of APC and PDP?

Is there any POLITICAL HEAT in Rivers State? Or, are you THREATENING to start FOMENTING TROUBLES in order to create a POLITICAL HEAT?

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Re: Gov.wike Live On Sunrise Daily. by ddippset(m): 11:53am On Mar 28, 2016
coolscott:

[size=13pt]If he needs to discuss with Amaechi, it is the same way the govt needed to discuss with the militants. It is the same way the govt felt the need to discuss with Boko Haram.

The truth is Amaechi holds no official position in any tier of Rivers govt. That the need to discuss with him should be seen as existing is testament to the fact that he is an external force instigating stability in the state.
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[size=2pt]The only official things that needed to be discussed were:

1) Hand over notes. Here, not one hand over note was written by Amaechi. The only gov in Nigeria who did not scribble a single line of hand over note.

2) The billions he is alleged to have misappropriated.

On both issues, the govt is not pursuing the past governor[/size]
we also need to discuss the billions looted by wike as local government chairman, his role in the death of tens of rivers people in the 2015 elections and also his role in the deaths and beheadings in this present election.
Re: Gov.wike Live On Sunrise Daily. by ddippset(m): 11:56am On Mar 28, 2016
BeardedMeat:
I didn't hear you take to the roof top in condemnation when in the build up to Ekiti and Osun general elections in 2014, Your lord and Master Tinubu became notoriously popular even in internatioanl communities for his "RIG AND ROAST ideology.


You are a hypocrite of the worst order!
of course you wouldn't hear me, your judgement stinks!
Re: Gov.wike Live On Sunrise Daily. by otokx(m): 11:56am On Mar 28, 2016
We should learn to make valid points without insulting. Politics section ought to be vibrant that way.
Re: Gov.wike Live On Sunrise Daily. by BeardedMeat(m): 11:59am On Mar 28, 2016
ddippset:
this is between amaechi and wike só leave Odilli out for now. Later we can talk Odilli versus amaechi. Wike installed amaechi abi? Só where was wike when amaechi was speaker of the rivers state house of assembly for 8 years? Or wike installed him as speaker too? Wike was a political nobody while amaechi was the chief law maker for 8 years. Back to my very simple logic: dakuku as pdp candidate would have defeated wike as apc candidate by a landslide. TRUE OR FALSE?
FALSE!!! YOU ARE CONFUSED.
Re: Gov.wike Live On Sunrise Daily. by BeardedMeat(m): 12:02pm On Mar 28, 2016
ddippset:
of course you wouldn't hear me, your judgement stinks!
Lolzz... grin grin
Re: Gov.wike Live On Sunrise Daily. by BeardedMeat(m): 12:06pm On Mar 28, 2016
otokx:
Governor is asked about his plans for Rivers State, he is talking of his paying workers salary, Judiciary, and uncompleted projects.

He is asked of monorail and he says its a no go area, he does not want to have headache.
He also said that after a wide consultation with stakeholders, he was advised to forget about the white elephant monorail project which has gulped 49b already without much to show for the amount and the project does not benefit the masses in any way presently.
Re: Gov.wike Live On Sunrise Daily. by odikimi: 12:07pm On Mar 28, 2016
otokx:


As usual they resort to insults when logical arguments fail, so you now agree that the road is incomplete abi?

When we said GEJ did not complete any project to impact the peoples life in Niger Delta, they will say no.
Just say in yo areas because in the Bomadi, Patani, Kolokuma local government areas in Delta and Bayelsa so many roads were constructed and completed by pdp government.
Re: Gov.wike Live On Sunrise Daily. by otokx(m): 12:10pm On Mar 28, 2016
odikimi:

Just say in yo areas because in the Bomadi, Patani, Kolokuma local government areas in Delta and Bayelsa so many roads were constructed and completed by pdp government.

We are talking of projects that transverse Niger Delta and how Governor Wike had to intervene in the Eleme - Onne axis, same way Ex Governor Amaechi did Port Harcourt - Owerri axis ending in Imo state.
Re: Gov.wike Live On Sunrise Daily. by BeardedMeat(m): 12:11pm On Mar 28, 2016
snailspeed:


Talk with Amaechi for what? What is the role of Amaechi in Rivers that requires Wike to talk with him? Amaechi is not even the APC party Chairman! Why are you encouraging a thug and trying to give him legitimacy? You guys are ridiculous
Sir, can I ask you for a favour? Just one small thing.... smiley
Re: Gov.wike Live On Sunrise Daily. by coolscott(m): 12:17pm On Mar 28, 2016
otokx:


Who is the leader of PDP in Rivers? WIKE

Who is the leader of APC in Rivers? AMAECHI

The political heat is being caused by followers of APC and PDP?

The 2 leaders or and their representatives should be called to an informal round table to talk about reducing the tension.

That is what some school of thought suggest.
[size=13pt]Some other school of thought suggests (in fact affirms) that all these cutting corners to make deals are not good at all and weaken our country. The thing is there is the rule of law, implementing which all crap will be eliminated. When you make the law cower in the corner and you try to make all kinds of deals take the place of the law, you continually weaken the country. The more irrelevant we make our laws, the more irrelevant what makes us as a country becomes.

Take for example, Agatu. Did people commit murder? Are the people known? Why can't they be arrested? Okay if that is extreme (which it is not) why can't they be evacuated from lands they now occupy illegally after killing people they don't even share boundaries with?

You see, just implement the law and all will be fine. From allowing the Zamfara guys to do sharia in the north during OBJ's era, to allowing fulanis to kill and doing nothing about it,
[/size] [size=22pt]to not punishing those caught in acts of electoral malpractice[/size] [size=13pt]only exacerbates the problems. Perpetrators are caught every time and what ever happens to them? The police catches them red handed, arrests them and clearly somewhere down the line, lets them go again - for reasons we never get told

It is this culture that fans the embers of all the wrong going on.

So I will repeat that all these long stories are not necessary when the rules have been designed to completely take care of all these issues.

(1)INEC conducts fairly
(2)Police arrests who they can, including compromised INEC staff caught in the act - and prosecutes them accordingly
(3)INEC announces results
(4)Parties involved accept their victories and losses.

If we have the above four situations prevalent, from where will electoral violence evolve?

If the laws that constitute a country cannot and will not be upheld, that country is a joke and the law does not say here that when all these misdemeanours are going on, culpable people caught in the act should go scot-free as they try to arrange for talks to be made.

Indeed, if guilty parties were being punished, we would not have been fooling around with violence, accusations and counter-accusations till we got to this point where after a re-run, some elections are still not done, people were caught cheating, and we still have accusations and counter-accusations flying around as nobody has been punished. Instead we had an electoral officer saved from the law by people in the system
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Re: Gov.wike Live On Sunrise Daily. by BeardedMeat(m): 12:22pm On Mar 28, 2016
Pls how did Wike kill his Uncle to pave way for Amaechi to be governor?
yaki84:




did God talk peace with lucipher when he went bragging abt his powers?
so u want wike to go beg amaechi for what na?
amaechi started dis shit, if he is man enuf he shud be d one initiating the peace moves.
do u knw what sacrifices wike did for amaechi before he reclaimed his mandate?
if someone u laboured so much for could turn back n say he did u a favour n anytime he visits a radio station he will say u cant speak english, abeg u for forgive am?
lemme tell u, I heard wike killed his uncle for amaechi to become the govr, wike's uncle was the judge handling the case between amaechi n omehia. and uncle was rooting for omehia, d only way for amaechi to win was to tek down his uncle n he did it. now that same person will be branding u illiterate.
abeg leave trash for lawma.
Re: Gov.wike Live On Sunrise Daily. by coolscott(m): 12:28pm On Mar 28, 2016
ddippset:
we also need to discuss the billions looted by wike as local government chairman, his role in the death of tens of rivers people in the 2015 elections and also his role in the deaths and beheadings in this present election.


[size=13pt]I say there is no need for discussions with Amaechi to ensure peace right now in Rivers State because he holds no office in any tier of govt in Rivers State and if there is a need to discuss with an outside person for peace to exist in Rivers State right now, that outside person must be an outside agitator (just like boko haram and the militants).

Now please, can you help us see the connection between what you have posted here and what I said?
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Re: Gov.wike Live On Sunrise Daily. by BeardedMeat(m): 12:34pm On Mar 28, 2016
otokx:
@coolscott

Who is the leader of PDP in Rivers? WIKE

Who is the leader of APC in Rivers? AMAECHI

The political heat is being caused by followers of APC and PDP?

The 2 leaders or and their representatives should be called to an informal round table to talk about reducing the tension.

That is what some school of thought suggest including Channels TV.
Amaechi is not the governor of Rivers State and does not hold any electoral office in Rivers State, Wike is the Governor and CEO of Rvers State. PDP is in power and PDP is on ground! Why would APC who has no grassroot following in Rivers State be factored into ay important decision or policy making of the state? Is the goverment of Rivers a unity Government? Or is APC in Rivers a part of the Security outfits in Rivers?

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Re: Gov.wike Live On Sunrise Daily. by BeardedMeat(m): 12:38pm On Mar 28, 2016
ddippset:
we also need to discuss the billions looted by wike as local government chairman, his role in the death of tens of rivers people in the 2015 elections and also his role in the deaths and beheadings in this present election.
Send Wike a text message, I am sure you will get answers to what you seek.

I particularly liked how Wike took all his haters to the cleaners this morning with the sincere and detailed way he answered questions posed to him. A total departure from the way the self-aclaimed lion would have been fanning innanities on national TV and Radio whenever he is interviewed.

I also hoped that you watched Dakuku's interview on same channel and that of Wike's Comm for Info versus APC Rivers Chairman Ikanya all last week.

Nigerians now know better and their verdict is public knowledge.
Re: Gov.wike Live On Sunrise Daily. by Validated: 12:57pm On Mar 28, 2016
Amaechi thought he could control Rivers as Tinubu does in Lagos. SS people are not zombies ...

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Re: Gov.wike Live On Sunrise Daily. by KoloOyinbo(m): 12:59pm On Mar 28, 2016
cckris:
Gov Wike has the massive Grassroots support base Amaechi didn't care to cultivate. Amaechi doesn't have any political base that can be problem for Wike. Amaechi was commanding House of Assembly members as if they were his servants. Then Amaechi dared to undermine the sacredness of the Judiciary. The traditional rulers were worsted, as he demoted first class rulers & promoted new ones he presumed he could control. How about the civil servants? Amaechi destroyed himself in Rivers State.

A lot of stuff here on personalities. In fact almost all of supposed politics here on Nairaland seems to focus on personalities. Is this because so much politics is tribal based? Just asking!

I have never yet seen any mature debates on the policies of the parties. Do they even have any?

Cronyism and personality cult are no way to run a country.
Re: Gov.wike Live On Sunrise Daily. by otokx(m): 1:03pm On Mar 28, 2016
BeardedMeat:
Amaechi is not the governor of Rivers State and does not hold any electoral office in Rivers State, Wike is the Governor and CEO of Rvers State. PDP is in power and PDP is on ground! Why would APC who has no grassroot following in Rivers State be factored into ay important decision or policy making of the state? Is the goverment of Rivers a unity Government? Or is APC in Rivers a part of the Security outfits in Rivers?

PDP has grassroots yet it lost in Opobo; interesting.
Re: Gov.wike Live On Sunrise Daily. by otokx(m): 1:06pm On Mar 28, 2016
KoloOyinbo:


A lot of stuff here on personalities. In fact almost all of supposed politics here on Nairaland seems to focus on personalities. Is this because so much politics is tribal based? Just asking!

I have never yet seen any mature debates on the policies of the parties. Do they even have any?

Cronyism and personality cult are no way to run a country.


You have spoken very well, the parties have not yet identified clear cut policies that can be identified as being synonymous with such party.

In Nigeria, it appears leadership is more of a personality cult.
Re: Gov.wike Live On Sunrise Daily. by BeardedMeat(m): 1:07pm On Mar 28, 2016
otokx:


PDP has grassroots yet it lost in Opobo; interesting.
I am not worried that you want o argue about this. Enjoy.
Re: Gov.wike Live On Sunrise Daily. by BeardedMeat(m): 1:11pm On Mar 28, 2016
otokx:


You have spoken very well, the parties have not yet identified clear cut policies that can be identified as being synonymous with such party.

In Nigeria, it appears leadership is more of a personality cult.
You have been blowing hot and cold since the begining of this thread. Its hard to say what you yourself can be identified with. The next thing you will say you are on the side of Nigerian masses even though your antecedents show otherwise.
Re: Gov.wike Live On Sunrise Daily. by cckris: 1:13pm On Mar 28, 2016
KoloOyinbo:


A lot of stuff here on personalities. In fact almost all of supposed politics here on Nairaland seems to focus on personalities. Is this because so much politics is tribal based?
[b]You're right.
1. Buhari's politics is TRIBAL, ISLAMIC, & never been national.
2. Or has Buhari accomplished any programme since inauguration?
3. The politics that dislodged Jonathan is TRIBAL.
4. Tribal politics continua. Are you not from a tribe?

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Re: Gov.wike Live On Sunrise Daily. by BeardedMeat(m): 1:20pm On Mar 28, 2016
KoloOyinbo:


A lot of stuff here on personalities. In fact almost all of supposed politics here on Nairaland seems to focus on personalities. Is this because so much politics is tribal based? Just asking!

I have never yet seen any mature debates on the policies of the parties. Do they even have any?

Cronyism and personality cult are no way to run a country.

You are correct but unfortunately, Politics of tribe and cronyism would continue to dominate until there is true federalism. There is too much mutual suspicision in the polity and only a naïve person will do otherwise.
Re: Gov.wike Live On Sunrise Daily. by cckris: 1:26pm On Mar 28, 2016
otokx:

In Nigeria, it appears leadership is more of a personality cult.
Because you're not able to IMPOSE Amaechi as cult figure over 5 million people in Rivers State, you now begin to complain about cult personality followership, by which another person, like Wike, could out-perform & make Amaechi, your own cult figure completely irrelevant.

Must you be RELEVANT? Can't you learn to be yourself, & be content with yourself?

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Re: Gov.wike Live On Sunrise Daily. by otokx(m): 1:26pm On Mar 28, 2016
BeardedMeat:
You have been blowing hot and cold since the begining of this thread. Its hard to say what you yourself can be identified with. The next thing you will say you are on the side of Nigerian masses even though your antecedents show otherwise.

As you usual when valid arguments cannot be raised they attack the personality.

We will continue to expose the truth backed by veifiable fact's.

Its a verifiable fact that the people in Opobo were allowed to vote a candidate of their choice not in PDP contrary to what people say here that the entire Rivers State is PDP.
Re: Gov.wike Live On Sunrise Daily. by KoloOyinbo(m): 1:42pm On Mar 28, 2016
cckris:

[b]You're right.
1. Buhari's politics is TRIBAL, ISLAMIC, & never been national.
2. Or has Buhari accomplished any programme since inauguration?
3. The politics that dislodged Jonathan is TRIBAL.
4. Tribal politics continua. Are you not from a tribe?

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My tribe are the Celts. Irish, Welsh, Scottish, Breton etc. We support a party because we belive their policies best. We will not vote for a man we like if we disagree with his policies.

Jonathan was dislodged not because of tribalism dut because despite being (I believe) a good man he could not control the corruption of the rest of a party that had failed miserably to govern properly. Despite many disreputable characters defecting from PDP to APC the electorate fairly gave a mandate to a new government to see if they could do better. We await the results with interest.

Now what are the POLICIES of PDP? Fiscal, political, social, educational, foreign relations etc.

I would ask these also of APC. I only know of anti corruption (doing small but nevertheless better than could be expected in the face of 16 years of looting), recovery of stolen funds (better progress here despite the mamoth task but still a way to go), and a fiscal policy of control of foreign reserves which (like most fiscal policies) has a down side as well as a positive and will take time to work anyway.

The key thing ANY government NEEDS to do in Naija (APC or PDP) is to reduce the disgraceful dependence on oil revenue that was allowed to develop under the last few governments and thus make Naija less vulnerable to the effects of a global fall in oil price. This is hurting Naija more than it should because the economy was allowed to become over dependent on it! Now perhaps BOTH parties would set forth clear policies on diversification of the economy so the electorate could forget this tribal rubbish and vote for the party with the policies they feel are best!

This is NOT about religion or tribe but about policies. As an oyinbo who has been coming to Naija for 16 years and travelling the world for decades longer than that I can tell you the rest of the world could not care less about your tribes and just want you to get on with sorting out your own country!
Re: Gov.wike Live On Sunrise Daily. by ddippset(m): 1:52pm On Mar 28, 2016
coolscott:


[size=13pt]I say there is no need for discussions with Amaechi to ensure peace right now in Rivers State because he holds no office in any tier of govt in Rivers State and if there is a need to discuss with an outside person for peace to exist in Rivers State right now, that outside person must be an outside agitator (just like boko haram and the militants).

Now please, can you help us see the connection between what you have posted here and what I said?
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lol. Iam sure you cant even believe yourself. The most powerful man in rivers state today is Rotimi Amaechi, not even the governor Wike. His postion as a federal minister and a very close ally of the commander in chief makes him most powerful man in rivers state. Amaechi of today has got the influence to even change the security attachment to wike. Besides, Amaechi is the leader of the second biggest political group in rivers state. For now amaechi is the leader of a group of people comprising the boss of the nddc, the boss of nimasa, at least 2 members of the house of assembly and at least 200,000 members of a political party. And then you think there's no relevance in discussing with Amaechi. Clap for yourself boy!
Re: Gov.wike Live On Sunrise Daily. by BeardedMeat(m): 2:05pm On Mar 28, 2016
otokx:


As you usual when valid arguments cannot be raised they attack the personality.

We will continue to expose the truth backed by veifiable fact's.

Its a verifiable fact that the people in Opobo were allowed to vote a candidate of their choice not in PDP contrary to what people say here that the entire Rivers State is PDP.
You are funny baba!! Even in the North, they have APGA supporters there. I am sure with the votes in Opobo, Amaechi can now conviniently impeach Wike through the state assembly as he Amaechi had always wanted.

If also you don't think your personality should not be brought to question here, how do you want readers on this forum to properly form an opinion based on what you post. You are an unstable personality on this thread and your assertions must be viewed with extra caution.
Re: Gov.wike Live On Sunrise Daily. by BeardedMeat(m): 2:28pm On Mar 28, 2016
KoloOyinbo:


My tribe are the Celts. Irish, Welsh, Scottish, Breton etc. We support a party because we belive their policies best. We will not vote for a man we like if we disagree with his policies.

Jonathan was dislodged not because of tribalism dut because despite being (I believe) a good man he could not control the corruption of the rest of a party that had failed miserably to govern properly. Despite many disreputable characters defecting from PDP to APC the electorate fairly gave a mandate to a new government to see if they could do better. We await the results with interest.

Now what are the POLICIES of PDP? Fiscal, political, social, educational, foreign relations etc.

I would ask these also of APC. I only know of anti corruption (doing small but nevertheless better than could be expected in the face of 16 years of looting), recovery of stolen funds (better progress here despite the mamoth task but still a way to go), and a fiscal policy of control of foreign reserves which (like most fiscal policies) has a down side as well as a positive and will take time to work anyway.

The key thing ANY government NEEDS to do in Naija (APC or PDP) is to reduce the disgraceful dependence on oil revenue that was allowed to develop under the last few governments and thus make Naija less vulnerable to the effects of a global fall in oil price. This is hurting Naija more than it should because the economy was allowed to become over dependent on it! Now perhaps BOTH parties would set forth clear policies on diversification of the economy so the electorate could forget this tribal rubbish and vote for the party with the policies they feel are best!

This is NOT about religion or tribe but about policies. As an oyinbo who has been coming to Naija for 16 years and travelling the world for decades longer than that I can tell you the rest of the world could not care less about your tribes and just want you to get on with sorting out your own country!
Your assertions are hypocritical when you after looking all around you, you cannot point to anything PDP did with governance for 16yrs. I will not bother educating you cos if you wanted to really be in the know, you could at least use gOogle! Be that as it may, PDP government made it possible for us who live in Nigeria to be on this forum now debating with you. They made enviable and giant strides in telecomms, agriculture, education, power, transportion youth empoerment. , oil sector reforms, Banking and education.

And you were right for believing Goodluck was a good man but for his lieutenants! They took the Nigerian masses for granted, they failed to showcase the achievements of Jonathan, not until very late in the day when APC had already taken Propaganda and lies on the govt of the day to a point of no return.


10months is still too small for you to start praise worshiping the current govt especially since they have iniatiated and completed any new projects.


Without been told, you can see Buhari has no plans or clues for diversification but only interested in more taxes to raise revenue to exlore oil in the Chad Basin and rebuild the NE!

The2016 budget has no provisions for diversifiacation.
Re: Gov.wike Live On Sunrise Daily. by Uteghe(m): 2:34pm On Mar 28, 2016
Whenever I listen to Wike,one question I keep asking is: did this man ever attend secondary school?
Re: Gov.wike Live On Sunrise Daily. by BeardedMeat(m): 2:36pm On Mar 28, 2016
Uteghe:
Whenever I listen to Wike,one question I keep asking is: did this man ever attend secondary school?
How?
Re: Gov.wike Live On Sunrise Daily. by ogmaskman: 3:24pm On Mar 28, 2016
cckris:

1. Amaechi's political BRINKMANSHIP isn't a forte.
2. Amaechi was in Odili's shadows, & presumed he could railroad everyone into his reckless gamble in APC, where Tinubu hold the aces.
3. ONCE Amaechi speaks to Federal officials the way he's used to addressing people, he'll be out in the cold in the forthcoming Cabinet reshuffle.

Don't forget that Wike installed Amaechi in 2007.
Wike then meticulously nurtured the GRASSROOTS DEMOCRATIC INITIATIVE.
You know the rest.

Wike installed Amaechi? Una dey yan sha.

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