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Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by forgiveness: 9:05pm On Mar 29, 2016 |
![]() TheGoodJoe: So, whose fault was it or who should be blamed? |
Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by Icon4s(m): 9:08pm On Mar 29, 2016 |
confun: Madam pls take it easy. Pls dnt take it hard on urself. This is football. Pls be strong. |
Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by forgiveness: 9:10pm On Mar 29, 2016 |
adeyemi2015: Which Super Eagles? Bros, abeg make em manage the U23. That's portion for nau. |
Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by Icon4s(m): 9:10pm On Mar 29, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe: Bros abeg do u have any insight as to y Musa started ahead of Simon? |
Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by joseph1013: 9:11pm On Mar 29, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe: Okay 2 Foreign coaches who messed up vs 4 Indigenous coaches who messed up. Tell me something else... What was Aminu doing on that field today, tell me. Iwobi is good enough to start against Barcelona, but not good enough for Egypt. Iheanacho rattled the bar in the first leg but was not even qualified to warm up today. Is that merit? 1 Like |
Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by Icon4s(m): 9:12pm On Mar 29, 2016 |
forgiveness: The NFF will likely retain Siasia as d Super Eagles coach. |
Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:13pm On Mar 29, 2016 |
TheSuperNerd: Well said. I am sick of the same cycle repeating itself. For Christ sake, with all due respect to Siasia, a Nigerian hero. What was he thinking? We already highlighted times without number that a straight forward play of long thrust won't work. Why the hell did he drop his three of his most creative forward players? I mean, his top three out of four creative players. Iwobi, Iheanacho, Simon Moses. As soon as I saw the list, I was stunned. Then what the hell was the Amuzie change for? He brought in a wing back with low accurate cross rate to cross accurately for Ighalo. I do not need to talk too much. I already highlighted why the long ball strategy won't work and why Ighalo should not start. At least Ighalo tried to drop deep but dropping Simon Moses, Iheanacho and Iwobi was catastrophic. |
Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:15pm On Mar 29, 2016 |
#smiles Ignore my smiles Ma'am. It's a camouflage. I'm actually pained as anyone can see from my "lamentation" on the previous page. (I put #smiles and a bright message at the end to show I can never allow dark times like these blind me to the future we have in our football). But that's just the story ma'am.... That's the story. All is well.... #smiles confun: |
Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by Nobody: 9:16pm On Mar 29, 2016 |
Can someone recommend a foreign Manager for the Super Eagles?! I mean a world class, competent Manager?! The question we should ask ourselves is; is NFF financially capable of hiring a foreign Coach?! The Board that couldn't afford the bill of the chattered Flight?! Thanks to Ifeanyi Ubah that came to the rescue! We need to be honest with ourselves, Siasia is the best Indigenous Coach, and if given a chance, he's gonna deliver! |
Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:17pm On Mar 29, 2016 |
joseph1013: I already highlighted why that was not a good idea. Saying foreign coaches will do better is what I am pointing out. Over the past, they did the same thing. I bet, most foreign coaches will pick Ighalo because of his reputation. You are seeing Pellegrini repeatedly picking up Bony over Iheanacho, when it is clear Iheanacho offers more goal threats, Lethal Shot Power and makes Aguero play Better. |
Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by Icon4s(m): 9:21pm On Mar 29, 2016 |
joseph1013: To tell d truth in dat first leg Aminu as AM/SS made more impact than Iheanacho. The only highlight of Iheanacho's game was d rattling of d wood work which is d only thing every1 here seems to b hinging on. So i would nt fault Siasia's choice of Aminu starting d AM position today. I would personally have played Iheanacho at a more forward role with Iwobi behind him. Siasia did nt trust d abilities of d young forwards bt ironically trusted d abilities of a young defender. I would have done d reverse if I was in dat position. |
Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by safarigirl(f): 9:21pm On Mar 29, 2016 |
Icon4s:make una no dey yarn that "future is bright" tori for here. See as Siasia and his foolishness just disgraced poor Iwobi, na him I pity pass sef. Drops England for Nigeria, only for England to win Germany and Nigeria to fail to qualify for AFCON within the five days. Poor kid. If NFF cannot respect the local coaches, then let them get a foreign coach. For all of Maigari's ineptitude, he didn't fail as much as this daft Pinnick, if the cow hadn't given Oliseh coaching contract and driven Keshi out with his pettiness, we wouldn't be here |
Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by joseph1013: 9:21pm On Mar 29, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe: If it was a Nigerian coach at Man City, he would not even promote Kelechi to the first team. At least Manuel promoted him from the U-18. Did you see what Hector Cuper did at Egypt. He selected on merit and used his best players. ElNeny that is Iwobi's teammate played, Iwobi was not good enough. Foreign coaches are better, abeg. |
Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by lakesidepapa(m): 9:22pm On Mar 29, 2016 |
Thou am not in support of foreign coach but if they truly want to employ a foreign coach, they should go for first world class coach that's technically and tactical okay not all those foreign coaches they listed earlier. onyeomaonyeoma: |
Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by forgiveness: 9:23pm On Mar 29, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe: It seems you don't know how to read football. The reason Amuzie was removed was because he can't read the movement of the Egyptians, he gave away alots of passes, his wing was the weakling, he doesn't add anything to the attack, he was rough and above all we had to defend with two players which rendered our attack impotent. But when Echijiele came in, the winger doesn't need to think of defending because they trusted Echijiele could do the work hence the created chances from the wings. 2 Likes |
Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:26pm On Mar 29, 2016 |
Icon4s: I do not know my brother. It was so clear to any focused analyst. Hector Cuper trained to boy on defending and a direct approach won't work. Musa offered a direct approach, so did Aminu. It was never going to work. Coach Siasia brought Echiejile in to continue the direct approach. My heart skipped as soon as he made that change. This was just a nightmare. |
Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by Nobody: 9:26pm On Mar 29, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe: On point! We shouldn't be promoting neo-colonialism. Are we saying Foreign (White) Coaches are better than the indigenous (Black) Coaches?! Keshi (Indigenous Coach) defeated many Nations that paraded foreign Coaches to win the Nations Cup! |
Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:30pm On Mar 29, 2016 |
forgiveness: You that knows how to read football, tell me which one Echiejile passed. Echiejile could not read the Egyptians movement - Echiejile gave away passes - Echiejile was rough, fouled Salah repeatedly - Oboabona had to cover for Echiejile on many occasions and unlike with Amuzie, Salah had chances to get into our 18 yard box. Which chance did Echiejile get? Is it that woeful cross that made Echiejile shout. |
Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by AIG07: 9:31pm On Mar 29, 2016 |
*not happy* I didn't want to comment before. Some of the boys tried. But we missed it from the word 'go'. The line-up wasn't just it. My p-man will always say "forget about those indigenous coaches they lack d stuffs to lead a national team n He'll simply ends it with- They're all thesame". Ethnicity, bribery, hatred, arrogance etc are their banes and these makes them culprit of repeated failures. In recent time, non of these indigenous coaches have done anything spectacular! Individual player brilliancy has been covering their shame. I know someone will make mention of keshi. Well Enyeama, Moses, Mba, Mikel n Emmanuel's brilliancies won us that Afcon.Shaibu too is a tribalist, his worldcup qualification was d result of Martins brilliant brace in Nairobi. Siasia came into d seen in 2012 and everyone was hopeful. then fought the big guns(Enyeama, Osaze n Mikel) in the name of 'Discipline' you all knew what happened. I'm not saying this to disrespect n degrade our own but it seems our local coaches are not ready for the bigger stage. I'm hereby joining other advocators(Safarigirl, forgiveness etc) for a SOUND foreign coach to handle our national team. *sobs* *closes the door* *gently walks out f d room* 2 Likes |
Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by Icon4s(m): 9:32pm On Mar 29, 2016 |
lakesidepapa: That is it bt none of such coaches can work with d NFF which is y we say Siasia is still our best choice. |
Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by forgiveness: 9:36pm On Mar 29, 2016 |
Icon4s: Most Nigerian coaches are business men and that's all. If they are ready to sacrifice their selfishness for National pride, i am ready to support them but for now bye bye to local Coaches. They are Nigeria worst nighmare. |
Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by joseph1013: 9:36pm On Mar 29, 2016 |
adeyemi2015: Neocolonialism is Hector Cuper, an Italian, coaching Egypt to the Nation's Cup? What about Bernd Storck, a German, coaching HUngary? What about Vladimir Petković, from Bosnia, coaching Switzerland? What about Marcel Koller, from Switzerland, coaching Austria? Let's stop deceiving ourselves, desperate times call for desperate actions. |
Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:39pm On Mar 29, 2016 |
joseph1013: Pellegrini refused to play Nacho despite our strikers shooting blank in a lot of games. Remember they were shooting blanks from the first game this season. Promoting is easy. Playing is a different ball game. Do you think Hector Cuper will play Elneny if he was a teenager? Even Arsene Wenger did not play Iwobi until injuries despite him being more talented than some senior boys. A lot of coaches go with experience over talents a lot of time. Both local and foreign. As for me, if you are good enough, you are old enough. |
Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:46pm On Mar 29, 2016 |
I really feel for Iwobi too. England must be really smiling now. But it's just the beginning of his journey with The Super Eagles. Safarihoney, pls understand I share your anger at this situation but we just have to look ahead. Thankfully, Iwobi will have top talents like Iheanacho, Moses Simon, Ndidi, Awaziem and a host of other superb talents for great company in the Super Eagles. Iwobi will laugh last and laugh best. But for now, it's truly painful. This was never Siasia's campaign to start with but he takes a strong part of the blame no doubt. (But in 2012 Eguavoen also started that campaign with just the first game before Siasia blew it also). Siasia is NOT JUST GOOD AT SENIOR LEVEL... CHIKENA!!!! WHEN THE CHIPS ARE DOWN HE FIDGETS AND MAKE SILLY MISTAKES TACTICALLY. IT'S REALLY SAD. But he's still a very very good choice for our age-grades (esp.U-23). Oliseh started this mess. Siasia ended up making it even messier. They both have two big hands in this unfortunate happening. Truth is I need Pinnick and Co out asap... So we can get and maintain the excellent coach we all want, be him foreign (the most likely choice), local (less likely) or alien (perfect... If possible). Yesss!!! I'm that crazy right now. safarigirl: |
Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:46pm On Mar 29, 2016 |
joseph1013: Hector Cuper is Argentine. There is something wrong with our football, it is not coaching. Our change should start from the NFF. Pinnick should go. That was an unexpected list and some forces were behind it. Why bring in Echiejile when we needed creativity upfront. There is no way Coach Siasia did not know that we needed Iwobi and Iheanacho on the filled but he chose Echiejile for Amuzie. |
Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by forgiveness: 9:47pm On Mar 29, 2016 |
Icon4s: Experimenting players at this crucial stage is unacceptable. How can you bring a winger to play as an attacking midfielder just because you want to include him in the team to make ego? Aminu Umar plays as a winger in his club. |
Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by BascoVanVeli(m): 9:47pm On Mar 29, 2016 |
adeyemi2015: The best is the best. We don't even have to go with a European, we just need the best available(that money can buy). |
Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by forgiveness: 9:52pm On Mar 29, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe: Echijiele brought confidence to his team mates and that was why you saw them pouring forward in search of goal living three defenders at the back. |
Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:52pm On Mar 29, 2016 |
Icon4s: You are mixing direct play as impact. When you guys hailed Aminu, I just shook my head because you guys missed a big fact The Egyptians were looking for an Equalizer. They pushed forward and had gaps at their back. So Aminu had the space to look good. Unlike Iheanacho who dealt with a compact defence. He had to drop deep a lot of time to make the team tick. Today, Aminu's impact was not there and there was no one to make the connection between the midfield and attack. That is whe we looked stronger when Iwobi came on. 2 Likes |
Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:54pm On Mar 29, 2016 |
forgiveness: Which kind of talk is this one? He brought confidence. We poured forward because we conceded after Echiejile came in. We had to push for an equalizer or a win. (sorry Equalizer) |
Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by BascoVanVeli(m): 9:56pm On Mar 29, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe:This is ur go to defence anytime a coach fails. Let me guess was the food bad? Or did they travel by boat or foot? Give it up, Siasia made his bed and now he shall lay in it. He made all the calls today and they were wrong. |
Re: Super Eagles Of Nigeria Thread: 2017 AFCON Qualifiers. by forgiveness: 9:59pm On Mar 29, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe: Echijiele didn't come to pass, he came to free moses and musa from defending and attacking at the same time. Salah got into the box but he was never Successful. Echijiele intercepted Salah and his cohort from taking shots several times eventhough he was left alone to mark Salah. If Amuzie did very well then why did they substitute him? |
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