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Ile Kaaro Ojiire (the Yoruba) And Nigeria. by lawani: 1:37pm On Mar 31, 2016 |
It is worth restating that Saudi Arabia of 30 million population makes 5 times the amount of Nigeria's oil revenue and if all the oil revenue of Nigeria belonged to only the Yoruba area of a population of around 70 million, it would not have amounted to 10 percent of government revenue if the Action Group were still in power. The People's Action Party is still in power in Singapore since independence. There is no opposition politics in that country just like in China and that country of 5 million is one of the best run in the world as of today. Norway of 5 million has oil income similar to Nigeria's but the money amounts to 20 percent of government revenue. We as the Yoruba have to get our acts together. We must be grateful to the British who provided the platform for the Nigeria experiment which also served as a platform on which the Yoruba have been able to stand mostly together after centuries of being loosely affiliated rival states and city states of Ile Kaaro ojiire acknowledging Ile Ife as their source. The Yoruba are now sufficiently wielded together, though still distinct according to their subnations. A feat the Oyo and later Ibadan were not able to fully achieve for centuries apart from Alaafin Orompoto who briefly reduced most of the forest Yoruba to tributary status for a short while before they regained their independence again and the Oyo left them alone. If the Yoruba were a separate nation of 70 million being run by a serious party like the Action Group, having the oil income of Nigeria, the oil sector would have been nationalised as Norway of 5 million population nationalised theirs and the oil income would not have amounted to 5 percent of government revenue in a 70 million population Yoruba country just like oil money of thesame value does not amount to more than 20 percent of the government revenue of 5 million population Norway. So that kind of Yoruba country would not have had a currency crisis like Nigeria is having today. There would have been no official dollar exchange rate that is 50 percent of open market rates with the official rates gotten only by government cronies who get dollars at 197 and resell immediately at 400. The Yoruba country's currency woul have been unaffected by the dropping oil price just as Norway's Krone is unaffected by same. The Oodua group may today have become the largest conglomerate in the world worth several trillions of dollars with interests in all notable public corporations just like Norway's sovereign fund worth over a trillion dollars is today. The Western region government of Nigeria was one of the main entities in the world to hold on to the idea that governments can still be in business for profits in some sectors of the economy despite also being a free market economy in the main. Other nations were sharply divided into capitalist free markets and socialist nations. In capitalist nations, governments do not intervene to make profit though they intervene in crucial sectors all the same while leaving profit making to the entrepreneurs. In socialist countries, private profit seeking is curtailed to the barest minimum. In the old Western region, there were millionaire entrepreneurs while some important sectors of the economy were nationalized for profit. it was termed a mixed economy. Norway as a country today has proven that the system is the best. Nationalise to make profit when that is the smartest thing to do like the Norwegian oil company and the West African produce board in the old Western region and allow a free market when that is smart too. If the Norwegian trust fund owned by 5 million Norwegians is worth over a trillion dollars today, we all should have an idea of what an Oodua group owned by 70 million citizens should have been worth by now if we had continued on the narrow path. And of course, the Yoruba neighbours like Igbos, Hausas and etc would have been forced to live up to standard and West Africa and the world would not be the way it is today. This is why the next thing to do for the Yoruba is to break up Nigeria immediately while assuring all that they have nothing to fear and that they should get their acts together as well. Interests can never be allied in Nigeria for the country to take off. That is impossible. People delude themselves that the current President is in alliance with the Yoruba via Former Governor Tinubu but when asked why a Yoruba man and disciple of former Governor Tinubu was blocked AT ALL COST from becoming the governor of Kogi state by the APC under President Buhari, they have nothing to say. So wake up from your slumber. Interests can never be alligned in Nigeria where the main groups are trying to lord it over each other. I want independence for the Yoruba, Igbo, Hausa, Igala, Bariba, Tapa, Ijaw and etc etc. Let everybody be on their own while collaborating on their own terms with others. People like the Bariba and etc who were in traditional alliance with one Yoruba group or the other in the 19th century should be liaised with while those who were not should be reassurred. An atmosphere of well alligned interests and rivalry can help for development. May Olodumare assist us to make this a reality sooner than expected. 7 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Ile Kaaro Ojiire (the Yoruba) And Nigeria. by Nobody: 1:43pm On Mar 31, 2016 |
Amen Proudly yoruba babe Haters, find the nearest transformer and hug 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Ile Kaaro Ojiire (the Yoruba) And Nigeria. by Eshinwaju: 1:44pm On Mar 31, 2016 |
This message needs to be heard loud and clear...we are better off on our own... |
Re: Ile Kaaro Ojiire (the Yoruba) And Nigeria. by Nobody: 1:48pm On Mar 31, 2016 |
Op you try
but who will spearhead the seccession |
Re: Ile Kaaro Ojiire (the Yoruba) And Nigeria. by Nobody: 1:58pm On Mar 31, 2016 |
Omo yoruba atata ni mi sugbon ikokuko ni writer yi ko. A n bu enu ate lu awon omo yiibo tori won n ja fun ominira ilu biafra, a si wa fe Maa ja fun tiwa. Iwa mimo tara Eni nikan leyi (selfishness) 5 Likes |
Re: Ile Kaaro Ojiire (the Yoruba) And Nigeria. by Movic1(m): 2:00pm On Mar 31, 2016 |
I thought am the only yoruba thinking about secession. The western region is performing well before they pull us to this XOO . 1 Like |
Re: Ile Kaaro Ojiire (the Yoruba) And Nigeria. by lawani: 2:03pm On Mar 31, 2016 |
Hagm0nd:Secession is not war. What is needed is unity of purpose and unanimity. So we need to get leaders like former President Obasanjo to support the move, then it will be a done deal as he can get the support of others that is needed. 1 Like |
Re: Ile Kaaro Ojiire (the Yoruba) And Nigeria. by Movic1(m): 2:08pm On Mar 31, 2016 |
tobimillar: EMi osilara awon to ma bu awon igbo o! Ti eniyan ba ro nu jile nipa orilede ti awa yi, you will know that what the igbos are fighting for is good. |
Re: Ile Kaaro Ojiire (the Yoruba) And Nigeria. by lawani: 2:08pm On Mar 31, 2016 |
tobimillar: Ti e ba ti nse be tele. E da owo bee duro. Ohun ti won ba se ti ko dara ni ki e so. Ko si ohun to buru ninu wipe ki awon Igbo ti won le ni 30 million daduro gegebi ilu olominira to da gajiya. Emi ko fi igba kankan lodi si Biafra o! E ko le ri ohun to jo bee ninu atejade mi kankan o. E je kia fi owo so wopo, ki a ye igi lese Nigeria. Ki Nigeria si fi idi remi lee kanna. E se pupo. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Ile Kaaro Ojiire (the Yoruba) And Nigeria. by Nobody: 2:09pm On Mar 31, 2016 |
It is more complicated than you think o especially in democracy its going to take a long time if any of the tribes in the so called southern nigeria wants to seccede we need strong coperation with other factions who are equally interested just like ibos are doing we cant do it alone op please forget people like obj lawani: 1 Like |
Re: Ile Kaaro Ojiire (the Yoruba) And Nigeria. by khalleb(m): 2:18pm On Mar 31, 2016 |
op pls why is red in the flag and what does it mean |
Re: Ile Kaaro Ojiire (the Yoruba) And Nigeria. by lawani: 2:25pm On Mar 31, 2016 |
[quote author=khalleb post=44282161]op pls why is red in the flag and what does it mean[/quoI I do not know. i saw the flag somewhere and copied it. |
Re: Ile Kaaro Ojiire (the Yoruba) And Nigeria. by lawani: 2:31pm On Mar 31, 2016 |
tobimillar: Yoruba is not against Biafra but the IPOB are always abusing other groups, especially Hausa and Yoruba. They have not articulated a clear cut way to independence. So when they abuse others, others abuse them back. That is why it seems some Yoruba are against Biafra. Let Igbos get their acts together. they dont need Yoruba support. 13 Likes |
Re: Ile Kaaro Ojiire (the Yoruba) And Nigeria. by Nobody: 2:34pm On Mar 31, 2016 |
lawani: But the truth is a United southern front is the only way to break away from the Northern hegemony. Yoruba's can never do it alone same with the igbo's |
Re: Ile Kaaro Ojiire (the Yoruba) And Nigeria. by orisa37: 2:36pm On Mar 31, 2016 |
Very good Report. No party will suggest a SNC now that the economy is so bad. For the same reason they refused Tinubus man in Kogi, they are planning a complete show down with NASS. The NASS and the State Assemblies should just sit down to remove the Control of State Funds from the FG and make the 36 States as they are presently very autonomous. 1 Like |
Re: Ile Kaaro Ojiire (the Yoruba) And Nigeria. by lawani: 2:41pm On Mar 31, 2016 |
tobimillar: What is the need for a united Southern front? What purpose will that serve? Assuming Igbos say Nigeria must remain one, will Yorubas or Hausas now accept, if they think it is not good for them? Let everybody choose their own destiny independently while wishing others well. There is no need at all for a united Southern front. 4 Likes |
Re: Ile Kaaro Ojiire (the Yoruba) And Nigeria. by Movic1(m): 2:43pm On Mar 31, 2016 |
tobimillar: Correct ! Once the southerners are United automatically the Northerners are in trouble, but the question is are we ready to Unite? |
Re: Ile Kaaro Ojiire (the Yoruba) And Nigeria. by ajebuter(f): 2:45pm On Mar 31, 2016 |
O da bi enipe awa omo kaaro ojiire sese nji loju oorun ni Ogbeni akowe yi ko ohun to wa lokan mi gele A ni lati da duro funra wa nitori Olorun ke iran Yoruba gan-an. Awa la kawe julo ninu gbogbo iran adulaawo, a kii se ole rara, a tun ni ile lopo yanturu fun ise agbe ati opo ohun amushoro ninu ile.. Ki la wa nse eru gambari alaikawe fun? Iran gambari ti emi eeyan o jo loju wa mu wa sin bi eru. O di dandan ki iran Oodua ronu bi Baba Ogunde ti fohun ko to d'oloogbe Bi bee ko, nise la nta oojo ola awon omo wa nitori aini isokan ati igboya lati ja fun etoo wa lati da duro Ire oh.... 8 Likes |
Re: Ile Kaaro Ojiire (the Yoruba) And Nigeria. by lawani: 2:51pm On Mar 31, 2016 |
Movic1: If your purpose of secession is to put other people in trouble, I am not in support of that. Northerners must be reassurred that they need not have any fear. Part of the North is ile kaaro o jiire too and a group like the Bariba in Kwara and Niger were allied with the Oyo in the 19th century, a move which made sure they maintained their independence during the Fulani jihad. 1 Like |
Re: Ile Kaaro Ojiire (the Yoruba) And Nigeria. by lawani: 2:59pm On Mar 31, 2016 |
ajebuter: Ooto oro gbaa le so iya wa, sugbon a ko ni laati ba awon Gambari ja rara. Awa naa ni awon ti o gba esin odi laarin was, awon onisumomi po laarin Yoruba paapaa. Sugbon a si ni anfaani ju awon Gambari lati da owo ibi duro ti a ba tete bere. Awon Baba wa ti igba laelae ko gba Olorun eke ti fun ni lase lati pa eniyan bi eni pa esinsin. A ko ni lati ba enikeni ja. Tiwa ni wipe a ko se mo. O to gee. Ki onikaluku o da omu iya re gbe. Ohun ti Boko Haram naa nfe kuku ni eyi. Ohun gbogbo nsise po fun rere ni. |
Re: Ile Kaaro Ojiire (the Yoruba) And Nigeria. by oduastates: 3:04pm On Mar 31, 2016 |
Nice that people are beginning to see the light but it will take a lot of work to gain critical mass. Why do we want to continue to deal with existential threats not of our own making? We have a functional society already. we've had it for centuries in spite of all the wars. If you come back in 50 years time, the problems would be the same and this country will continue to mass manufacture poverty. 4 Likes |
Re: Ile Kaaro Ojiire (the Yoruba) And Nigeria. by ajebuter(f): 3:18pm On Mar 31, 2016 |
lawani: Rara oh.. Emi o jiyan pe a nilati yo ada ati ibon ka to le da duro labe iran gambari.. Oro ajumo so papo ni lori tabili. O sha ni bi orile ede metala se jade lati ara orile ede USSR laye atijo Oro ajoso sha lo fa ti Germany fi di eeyo kan soso ti Italy se pin sin ilu keekeke, ati bi die ninu orile ede Cyprus se yo lati ara orile ede Greece Mo gba wipe emi melo kan maa ba lo, bo se nsele ni North Ireland ati Catalonia ni ilu spain, Ethiopia ati Eritrea, laigbagbe South Sudan.. Sugbon, nigbati a ba fohun sokan, ti a juumo joko lori tabili ti a fohun sokan, yoo see se O le ma je loni, tabi aadota odun sigba ti a wa yi, sugbon isokan ati ipinu wa se Pataki Ire oh 1 Like |
Re: Ile Kaaro Ojiire (the Yoruba) And Nigeria. by T9ksy(m): 3:33pm On Mar 31, 2016 |
Nigeria was never going to be a feasible option and unfortunately over half a century after attaining self-rule, it’s crystal clear (to even the blind) that it will always remain just a "geographical expression" of those who occupy this part of planet earth. We all are better off on our own but sadly, human beings as nature made them, are averse to “change”. Even the north that have benefitted most from this british experiment will still fare better, if left to evolve at its own pace. |
Re: Ile Kaaro Ojiire (the Yoruba) And Nigeria. by Ayus34(m): 3:35pm On Mar 31, 2016 |
Well i dont know if it can ever come to reality breaking Nigeria, but i hope d odua nation can be independent,I see the odua nation as the most blessed region in this country interms of culture,resources outside oil,population that speak common language etc,we were tge fastest growing region in d past,in terms of economy, education,human capital,etc but the unitary systerm of govt introduced by ironsi,impede on our growth..,..if we cam go back to regional system of government or stand as a country,it will be a dream come true! 2 Likes |
Re: Ile Kaaro Ojiire (the Yoruba) And Nigeria. by lawani: 3:51pm On Mar 31, 2016 |
ajebuter: Aadota odun ke? Kamari o! Ni ohun to je wipe ti gbogbo otokulu ilu ile Kaaro ojjire lati oke Oya ni Jebba de eti okun ni Eko ba ti fi imo sokan, o di sise niyen. Ti ase Olodumare a si gun. A ni awon eniyan nla ti won a gbe oro naa kale ni ajo isokan agbaye UN ti won o si da ojo pinpin ile bi eni da ojo ikomo bi o se sele ni Sudan. Ko le to bi e se ro yen o. Ohun ti o le di sise laarin osu melo kan ni. Ti a ba fi owo sowopo. Olodumare a si fi ase si. |
Re: Ile Kaaro Ojiire (the Yoruba) And Nigeria. by ajebuter(f): 4:09pm On Mar 31, 2016 |
lawani: Emi o so pe dandan ni ko to aadota odun ko to seesee Mo kan foju bu wo ni wipe, nijo kan sha, a seesee. Sugbon, ISOKAN Yoruba ni koko ninu oran yi Yoo dara fun iran Yoruba lase Edunmare.. 2 Likes |
Re: Ile Kaaro Ojiire (the Yoruba) And Nigeria. by Agbaletu: 4:11pm On Mar 31, 2016 |
lawani: Ogbeni lawani, mo fara mo nkan ti e so, aadota odun ti pe ju. Inu mi adun ti awon otokulu ile Yoruba ba le fi oro yii sokan. Akoko ti to fun eeya Yoruba lati da duro. Sugbon ti aba ro oro yii dara dara, odabi eni wipe inu awon otokulu ile wa dun si bi ase wa pelu awon eeya toku, if not they should be championing the disintegrationn of this country, awa to ku de ma support won. 1 Like |
Re: Ile Kaaro Ojiire (the Yoruba) And Nigeria. by Agbaletu: 4:14pm On Mar 31, 2016 |
ajebuter: Ti aba ti le ri eleyi se, awon eleyi toku amo ni. Bi oro ilu yii se nlo ko ye wa ati awon olori wa gan mo. Akoko yii lo ye ki awa omo Yoruba mura lati da duro. 1 Like |
Re: Ile Kaaro Ojiire (the Yoruba) And Nigeria. by akinszz: 4:32pm On Mar 31, 2016 |
One step @ a time... You can start by spreading the msg like virus. oduastates: 1 Like |
Re: Ile Kaaro Ojiire (the Yoruba) And Nigeria. by Movic1(m): 4:46pm On Mar 31, 2016 |
lawani: Oro wahala koni eleyi. if we gain secession today,shea ama fi awon eniyan wa to wa ni kwara and part of kogi si Northern Nigeria?? |
Re: Ile Kaaro Ojiire (the Yoruba) And Nigeria. by juman(m): 4:55pm On Mar 31, 2016 |
I agree that awolowo and his group were blessings. They were able to achieve a lot because they were sincere and committed. The problem of insincerity and severely unserious "leaders" led to this abysmal state of the nation. But sadly yorubas have ruled this bad and destroyed country for twenty percent of the life span of the country. |
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