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Re: If Angels And Demons Can't Die, What Is The Point Of Their Engaging In Battle? by Nobody: 5:39pm On Jan 20, 2016
OLAADEGBU:


Do you mean they use the souls of men to fight?



It is well with my soul. Remain blessed. smiley
They all (according to their seasons) use power.

It is that power that is also a sword.
Re: If Angels And Demons Can't Die, What Is The Point Of Their Engaging In Battle? by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:32am On Jan 29, 2016
EkeBarry:


They fight to tether or take captive(u can also cal it taming)

Do they take each other captive, and if so, how? undecided
Re: If Angels And Demons Can't Die, What Is The Point Of Their Engaging In Battle? by Nobody: 9:37am On Jan 29, 2016
OLAADEGBU:


Do they take each other captive, and if so, how? undecided
The spiritual realm has an order of authority. It's like a government arrangement. Those at the top are served while those at the bottom serve. And there are different levels of service and authority.

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Re: If Angels And Demons Can't Die, What Is The Point Of Their Engaging In Battle? by OLAADEGBU(m): 8:22pm On Feb 25, 2016
SirWere:


Hahaha...... It's been a long long time I've laughed this hard. Thanks OP.

What's funny about the OP? Please do share. cheesy
Re: If Angels And Demons Can't Die, What Is The Point Of Their Engaging In Battle? by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:35pm On Feb 25, 2016
undercat:


They are enemies and enemies fight. They are not mortal enemies (pun intended) so they don't fight to kill. Don't over analyse it.

What is the purpose of their fight if it is not mortal?
Re: If Angels And Demons Can't Die, What Is The Point Of Their Engaging In Battle? by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:16pm On Mar 01, 2016
italo:


The Bible says that believers who die and go to heaven are like angels.

So can we take it that saints fight for us like angels too?

Hehehe!

Can you please give us the context of what you are insinuating? Are you saying believers become angels when the go to heaven? undecided
Re: If Angels And Demons Can't Die, What Is The Point Of Their Engaging In Battle? by Nobody: 6:52pm On Mar 01, 2016
They don't necessarily fight to kill rather to subdue and rule. An immortal cannot be killed doesn't mean it can't be caged. When they are subdued, The abyss is there waiting for the losers.

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Re: If Angels And Demons Can't Die, What Is The Point Of Their Engaging In Battle? by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:40pm On Mar 05, 2016


They don't die. But they can get bound.

Bound for as long as you want? undecided
Re: If Angels And Demons Can't Die, What Is The Point Of Their Engaging In Battle? by Nobody: 3:36am On Mar 06, 2016
italo:
The Bible says that believers who die and go to heaven are like angels.

So can we take it that saints fight for us like angels too?

Hehehe!
He must have been referring to their bodies, that they have no physical flesh but are spirits. I do not believe they fight together with Angels. Am saying this based on scriptures concerning the place and role of the saints during the battles of the end of the age;

1. Their rising is at the end of this age

Matthew 27:52 |
And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

2. They are somewhere waiting

Revelation 6: 9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

Someone explain the prophecies of the coming back of Moses and Elijah to prepare the way for Christ in the same context...

Malachi 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD: undecided
Re: If Angels And Demons Can't Die, What Is The Point Of Their Engaging In Battle? by orisa37: 10:57am On Mar 06, 2016
Continuity is ad infinitum. It's a spirit. like Angels and demons. They don't die. They were at the beginning before creation and will be there for us to join when we die and become abstracts.

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Re: If Angels And Demons Can't Die, What Is The Point Of Their Engaging In Battle? by asalimpo(m): 12:20pm On Mar 06, 2016
OLAADEGBU:
If angels and demons can't die, what is the point of their engaging in battle? If angels and demons are immortal, why do they bother fighting each other?

if angels and demons are immortal, will their immortality alone realize their goals or thwart opposing goals from being enforced?

So,sir,your question is illogical.
Re: If Angels And Demons Can't Die, What Is The Point Of Their Engaging In Battle? by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:51am On Mar 08, 2016


It's about control of/rule over men

We have our own fights against each other For the same reason too

Can you give examples? undecided
Re: If Angels And Demons Can't Die, What Is The Point Of Their Engaging In Battle? by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:49pm On Mar 13, 2016
Zoe99:


demons can manipulate and attack christians but can't possess them.When christians pray,angels are sent to fight on their behalf.So it's because of our prayers,that angels are sent.There is then a clash btw the angels and demons concerning you.

When they clash what happens?
Re: If Angels And Demons Can't Die, What Is The Point Of Their Engaging In Battle? by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:27pm On Mar 14, 2016
Scholar8200:


Revelations 12 shows us the major purpose is expulsion and dominion and their battle is based on the positioning of the roots on either side - man! That is why the victory of the Heavenly host in Revelations 12 is linked to the faith of the saints on earth in Rev 12:11.

Are you saying that our involvement will determine the outcome of the warring angels and devils?
Re: If Angels And Demons Can't Die, What Is The Point Of Their Engaging In Battle? by Scholar8200(m): 5:54pm On Mar 15, 2016
OLAADEGBU:


Are you saying that our involvement will determine the outcome of the warring angels and devils?
Depends on what is at stake. For example, Daniel's persistence in faith and prayer made the Angelic intervention possible. If Daniel had given up in unbelief, the story would have been different.

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Re: If Angels And Demons Can't Die, What Is The Point Of Their Engaging In Battle? by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:02pm On Mar 31, 2016
Scholar8200:


Depends on what is at stake. For example, Daniel's persistence in faith and prayer made the Angelic intervention possible. If Daniel had given up in unbelief, the story would have been different.

'And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb' this means we have to activate and equip God's angels with the Word of God and the blood of the Lamb.
Re: If Angels And Demons Can't Die, What Is The Point Of Their Engaging In Battle? by Scholar8200(m): 7:09pm On Mar 31, 2016
OLAADEGBU:


'And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb' this means we have to activate and equip God's angels with the Word of God and the blood of the Lamb.
We dont activate them directly however, God may give them a charge if our faith is not cast off.
Re: If Angels And Demons Can't Die, What Is The Point Of Their Engaging In Battle? by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:58pm On Apr 01, 2016
Scholar8200:


We dont activate them directly however, God may give them a charge if our faith is not cast off.

Yes, our faith on the Word of God and in the blood of Jesus. cheesy

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Re: If Angels And Demons Can't Die, What Is The Point Of Their Engaging In Battle? by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:42pm On Apr 05, 2016
OLAADEGBU:


If angels and demons can't die, what is the point of their engaging in battle? If angels and demons are immortal, why do they bother fighting each other?

Suggested answer.

http://www.gotquestions.org/angels-demons-battle.html
Re: If Angels And Demons Can't Die, What Is The Point Of Their Engaging In Battle? by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:56am On Apr 07, 2016
OLAADEGBU:


Suggested answer.

http://www.gotquestions.org/angels-demons-battle.html

Popular fiction, such as the novel This Present Darkness by Frank Peretti, often features lurid descriptions of spiritual battles in which demons are dispatched by sword-wielding angels with a slash, a flash, and a puff of smoke. The implication is that the demons "die" somehow when sliced in half by angelic blades. It should go without saying that our theology should be based on what the Bible says, not contemporary novels. The Bible teaches the reality of spiritual battle (Jude 1:9). But the Bible also says that, after the final judgment, demons will be consigned forever to the lake of fire (Matthew 25:41; Revelation 20:10). Since demons (and angels) do not “die” or suffer physical wounds, what is the point of doing spiritual battle?

First, we need to remember that not all battles are "to the death." The point of angels battling demons is not to kill them but to thwart their plans and further God's plans. In the Bible, we see that angels do battle with demons in order to deliver divine messages to people (Daniel 10:13) and remove Satan's hordes from heavenly places (Revelation 12:7–8.). Demons can be withstood (James 4:7), tortured by God (Luke 8:28), lose what they possess (Mark 9:25–26), be sent to another place (Matthew 8:32), and be removed to the Abyss (Luke 8:31).

Second, there will be a time when Satan and his demons will experience what the Bible calls "the second death," which is the lake of fire (Revelation 21:8.). We look forward to that day because the demons’ main objective in battle is to counter God's will in the lives of people everywhere—believers and non-believers alike (1 Peter 5:8.). We have many examples in the Bible that God has sent His angels to warn, guide, and protect God's children. One of the best examples of these roles in Scripture is through the story of Christmas. God used angels to inform Zechariah that he would have a son named John (Luke 1:8–20), to tell Mary that she would bear the Messiah (Luke 1:26–38), to declare Christ’s birth to others (Luke 2:8–13), and to warn Joseph to protect his family from King Herod's wrath (Matthew 2:13).

God has not seen fit to imprison all demons just yet, but He promises that in the last days they will be thrown, along with Satan, into the lake of fire. There is no escape from this fate, and all demonic spirits will be tormented in eternal isolation from God and His children (Revelation 20:10).

The reality of spiritual warfare affects every believer. It is of utmost importance to recognize this warfare that is taking place and be prepared for it. God has given us all that is necessary to stand firm against the devil’s schemes and has commanded us to put on the full spiritual armour (Ephesians 6:10–18).
Re: If Angels And Demons Can't Die, What Is The Point Of Their Engaging In Battle? by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:16am On Apr 15, 2016
If angels and demons can't die, what is the point of their engaging in battle? If angels and demons are immortal, why do they bother fighting each other?

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