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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by bigkesh(m): 9:01am On Apr 02, 2016
Kagawa10:

Majority of the small teams in the la liga are average at best!
The reality is Mourinho's team may have steamrolled the small average teams due to the several attackers Madrid had in the team but when it matters most, he chickened out and deploy a defensive tactic like he did against the Dortmund and the Atletico team in the copa dey final!
And when I say 'deploy defensive tactics' before some eediots equate it to mean 5 defenders, I'm implying that he takes a cautious approach like deploying a CM in the no 10 role!
So Madrid is the only team playing against the small teams, or tell us why Ancelloti didn't score 121 goals na...
Which defensive tactics is this mumu talking about?
Against Dortmund Di maria just had a girl the night before and he joined the team late,you expect him to start??
You are not smart,if he wanted to defend will he best his best winger defensively to play a lazy Ozil on the wing??

He deployed defensive tactics in a match which Courtois was the man of the match and Madrid had 62% of the ball


Playing a versatile CM as a AM is defensive? Playing an AM as a Winger is defensive??
United fans deal with ya trash
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 9:01am On Apr 02, 2016
Kagawa10:

Majority of the small teams in the la liga are average at best!
The reality is Mourinho's team may have steamrolled the small average teams due to the several attackers Madrid had in the team

So I'm asking you, Barca's 120+ goals, were the average small teams not amongst those that were battered by Barca?

How many of those goals did Barca score against Madrid and Atlético?

Didn't Barca score those small average teams?

So Madrid scores 121 goals and it's against "small average teams", but Barca does it suddenly the "small average" teams are now "big top" teams? Go and sleep with your glaring hypocrisy!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 9:01am On Apr 02, 2016
Kagawa10:

The funny thing is you people just keeps disgracing yourself by showcasing your poor brain!
How does my post equate lieing when I specifically mentioned 5 defenders in the Madrid 2-1 game? This was my reply to weedtaker before he listed Madrid's lineups for the copa dey rey final.

Did my post above talked about 5 defenders in the copa dey rey final?
No wonder the saying that you shouldn't argue with kids!
And in an attempt to save face grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 9:03am On Apr 02, 2016
chrisley024:


Dude keeps compiling more lies.
Lai Mohammed is a learner to this guy
Defensive players is quite different from 5 defenders like Weedtaker mentioned though!
And deploying Modric, A CM who's more defensive than Ozil in the no 10 role is defensive!
Gosh, where did this set of people come from?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 9:07am On Apr 02, 2016
Kagawa10:

He defeated them at the CL final though while playing attacking football!

When Atletico raped them severally, was he not playing attacking football?


When Mourinho raped Atlético 6 times, was he playing defensive football?

When Barca couldn't defeat Atlético in one season, were they playing defensive tactics?

You and shape-shifting are siamese twins!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 9:08am On Apr 02, 2016
Kagawa10:

Defensive players is quite different from 5 defenders like Weedtaker mentioned though!
And deploying Modric, A CM who's more defensive than Ozil in the no 10 role is defensive!
Gosh, where did this set of people come from?
Ronaldo and Ozil could be termed the defensive players then

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 9:11am On Apr 02, 2016
sinizia:


A defensive tactic? Even when Madrid had 62% dominance? Are you fùcking kidding me? What you said now is akin to saying Barca dominated a match with defensive tactics? WTF?!! Defensive tactic with 17 shots and 3 shots at the crossbar against an ATTACKING side that had 38% possession? CATIOUSNESS and 62% domination in the same line in a match? *sigh*

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I already mentioned in my previous post that Atletico are not a possession team, they are a counter attacking team, just like the Dortmund team under Klopp!
Hence Madrid dominating possession against them means nothing! You were probably blind once again to have not seen that previous post of mine?
Gosh, why do I keep repeating myself like I was talking to some kids?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 9:13am On Apr 02, 2016
chrisley024:
Ronaldo and Ozil could be termed the defensive players then
Re-read my post and see if your reply makes sense!
Where in my post did I mentioned that Ozil is a defensive player?
Dullness dey run for your bodi no be small!
So shameful!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 9:24am On Apr 02, 2016
Kagawa10:

Modric was used as a no 10, instead of Ozil.
It would have been understandable if he had used a 3-man midfield tactics but to use Modric in the no 10 is a defensive tactic..
The previous match before then where Madrid struggled to defeat Atletico 2-1 were done with many defensive players in the team!
What are you saying mr.? Na wa oo
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 9:26am On Apr 02, 2016
sinizia:


When Atletico raped them severally, was he not playing attacking football?


When Mourinho raped Atlético 6 times, was he playing defensive football?

When Barca couldn't defeat Atlético in one season, were they playing defensive tactics?

You and shape-shifting are siamese twins!!
I already mentioned that Atletico has had a steady rise in the last 3-4 years now and the moment Mourinho realised this and considered them a threat in his latter reigns at Madrid, his negative approach rears its ugly head against them unlike when he first arrived at Madrid.
You ought to be ashamed of yourself for making me repeat myself countless of time already!
As per the Barca example, no one could say they ever had a defensive tactic against Atletico. The Barca team are always gong ho in their approach against Atletico, no matter the end result!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 9:31am On Apr 02, 2016
hensben:
What are you saying mr.? Na wa oo
And you are? Yeye!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 9:33am On Apr 02, 2016
AdeLaNa1:
Ehn?? Come again...Madrid where they are today becoz of Mourinho?? Madrid was already a force in Europe and Spain b4 Mourinho even won his first UCL title. Or do u not remember anything about The Galacticos??

He left after he won the trebble for Inter. Since then, Inter has been shít!!
Harry Redknapp, Sam Allardyce, Alan Pardew wink wink
since SAF left Man U they have been shiit. What will you say about that.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 9:33am On Apr 02, 2016
Kagawa10:

Re-read my post and see if your reply makes sense!
Where in my post did I mentioned that Ozil is a defensive player?
Dullness dey run for your bodi no be small!
So shameful!
Bro, I'm just having a nice time with your mumu display.

Modric as AM and Ozil on the flank made it defensive after we've seen the stats clearly showing Madrid were more attacking.

Were the German team that used Kroos upfront and Ozil on the flank defensive?

Spain played Alonso and Busquets, used Fabregas upfront and played a false 9, were they defensive?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 9:45am On Apr 02, 2016
chrisley024:
Bro, I'm just having a nice time with your mumu display.

Modric as AM and Ozil on the flank made it defensive after we've seen the stats clearly showing Madrid were more attacking.

Were the German team that used Kroos upfront and Ozil on the flank defensive?

Spain played Alonso and Busquets, used Fabregas upfront and played a false 9, were they defensive?
The German team deployed a 3-man midfield system, Even Ancelotti deployed a 3-man midfield system with Modric and that was how Ancelotti got the best out of Modric at Madrid because Modric is a CM, not a no 10 but for Mourinho to put him in the no 10 role eventhough it's quite glaring that Modric struggles in the no 10 role just because he's more defensively astute than Ozil is stupidity at its best!
I mentioned this already and thank God that the attention seeking whoore, Hensben has already done the hard work of quoting the said post but it's a shame that I'm repeating myself once again!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 9:45am On Apr 02, 2016
MrLouisVanGaal:


The worst troll ever liveth

Hahaha cheesy cheesy grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 9:52am On Apr 02, 2016
LOL!
I hope this is just a few samples of the posters here because if this is what all the posters here does, that is, lack comprehensive skills and would rather manipulate post rather than try to understand it, it's a big shame and shows stup!dity at its peak!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by bigkesh(m): 9:54am On Apr 02, 2016
Kagawa10:

The German team deployed a 3-man midfield system, Even Ancelotti deployed a 3-man midfield system with Modric and that was how Ancelotti got the best out of Modric at Madrid because Modric is a CM, not a no 10 but for Mourinho to put him in the no 10 role eventhough it's quite glaring that Modric struggles in the no 10 role just because he's more defensively astute than Ozil is stupidity at its best!
I mentioned this already and thank God that the attention seeking whoore, Hensben has already done the hard work of quoting the said post but it's a shame that I'm repeating myself once again!
Apart from the Dortmund game, which big game did Modric start ahead of Ozil as a 10?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 10:00am On Apr 02, 2016
bigkesh:

Apart from the Dortmund game, which big game did Modric start ahead of Ozil as a 10?
The copa dey rey final!
As a matter of fact, even after Mourinho learnt his mistake in the Dortmund 1st leg game and saw the fantastic display of Modric in the central midfield in the subsequent 2nd leg game, he still went ahead to deploy Modric in the no 10 role against Atletico!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 10:05am On Apr 02, 2016
Kagawa10:
LOL!
I hope this is just a few samples of the posters here because if this is what all the posters here does, that is, lack comprehensive skills and would rather manipulate post rather than try to understand it, it's a big shame and shows stup!dity at its peak!

But you ve kinda being doing the above!!!....

You just keep going back and forth... it's becoming unhealthy!!!!!

cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 10:18am On Apr 02, 2016
elrony:

But you ve kinda being doing the above!!!....
You just keep going back and forth... it's becoming unhealthy!!!!!
cheesy
I never misinterpreted anybody post though! That you can't say about me!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 10:47am On Apr 02, 2016
Kagawa10:

I never misinterpreted anybody post though! That you can't say about me!

Heheh... maybe you don't take time to read your replies,you keep going back and forth.....and you then get caught up in your web,shooting ya own self!!!

Just let it slide bro.... drab arguments are unhealthy!
cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 11:01am On Apr 02, 2016
Kagawa10:

The German team deployed a 3-man midfield system, Even Ancelotti deployed a 3-man midfield system with Modric and that was how Ancelotti got the best out of Modric at Madrid because Modric is a CM, not a no 10 but for Mourinho to put him in the no 10 role eventhough it's quite glaring that Modric struggles in the no 10 role just because he's more defensively astute than Ozil is stupidity at its best!
I mentioned this already and thank God that the attention seeking whoore, Hensben has already done the hard work of quoting the said post but it's a shame that I'm repeating myself once again!
So it is now the formation not the 'defensive players' you claimed were assembled or it wouldn't have been defensive if Modric was in a 3-man midfield with the same players, Alonso and Khedira?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 11:04am On Apr 02, 2016
Nigga is more denser than a rock. What an utter Idíot!!

You know one's idiocy is hereditary when moving Modric to no. 10 means Mourinho played with 5 DEFENDERS.

In the midst of intelligent posters, there's bound to be a brainless rétard, so I'm not surprised. sad cry

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 11:11am On Apr 02, 2016
AdeLaNa1:
Hate is a strong word. I dont do hate. More like dislike....
If i hate Mourinho, i wont admit he has very good track record.

Anyways, i've already said my opinions are irrelevant towards this situation. And if United end up signing him, i'll support the team and not him....
alright bro
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 12:33pm On Apr 02, 2016
I don't know if I'll stay.
--LvG
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristineC: 12:38pm On Apr 02, 2016
Manchester United 2 Everton 0
My prediction.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 12:58pm On Apr 02, 2016
ChristineC:
Manchester United 2 Everton 0

My prediction.
kiss
*don't mind the smiley*
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Spy360(m): 1:10pm On Apr 02, 2016
I don't like Mourinho but...

If he got £300m as LvG did, he would win the EPL and may be UCL. But then leaves United in shambles.

I understand what Kagawa10 has been trying to point out. Mourinho plays boring football, and that's a fact.

If I were United, I'd go for Pochentino. He epitomises Manchester United and SAF's ideals. GROOMING
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 1:21pm On Apr 02, 2016
chrisley024:
So it is now the formation not the 'defensive players' you claimed were assembled or it wouldn't have been defensive if Modric was in a 3-man midfield with the same players, Alonso and Khedira?
Do you know the difference between a 3-man midfield and a 2-man midfield with a no 10? You just dey embarrass yourself!
3 man midfield ensures the three midfielders are all in the central midfield with some foray behind another set of 3 forwards who constantly drift into the space a no 10 could have occupied whereas a 2-man midfield employs a no 10 and as well as high pressing wingers to make the system works well!
That's why the likes of Pedro, who has always been used as an inside forward in a 4-3-3 set up at Barca found it difficult to operate as a winger in Chelsea 4-2-3-1! Same could be said about Di Maria who slotted well in Mourinho 4-2-3-1 formation but found it difficult to operate as a winger in Ancellotti 4-3-3 set up until he was converted into a box-box midfielder.
Same thing happened with Di Maria at Manutd when the team deployed a 3-man midfield of Carrick-Herrera-Fellaini with Di maria on the wing!
A 3-man midfield is no longer defensive because it often deploys another set of 3 forwards since the setup allows the forward plenty of space in the middle to drift in and interplay with their team-mates but a winger decision making comes much more under scrutinity in this setup because his movement, linkup and interplays when drifting in, becomes much more glaring to the eye and most wingers are not good at their basic to ensure the setup works well as opposed to when he could just drive down the wing as a winger to put in a cross or drift in to take a shot in a 4-2-3-1 formation! This was Januzaj's problem under LVG last season as opposed to Moyes' set up in the previous season!
Simply put, a 3-man midfield deploy 3 forwards which already nullify the defensive approach whereas a 2-man midfield but with a no 10/SS to linkup the attack and also wingers who also contribute in the defensive aspects of the game!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Spy360(m): 1:23pm On Apr 02, 2016
Kagawa10:

The German team deployed a 3-man midfield system, Even Ancelotti deployed a 3-man midfield system with Modric and that was how Ancelotti got the best out of Modric at Madrid because Modric is a CM, not a no 10 but for Mourinho to put him in the no 10 role eventhough it's quite glaring that Modric struggles in the no 10 role just because he's more defensively astute than Ozil is stupidity at its best!
I mentioned this already and thank God that the attention seeking whoore, Hensben has already done the hard work of quoting the said post but it's a shame that I'm repeating myself once again!
I think your main point is that Mou plays defensively, which is a fact.

But I don't think Modric at no 10 is defensive. Rather you think he should have had a 3man midfield which should include both Modric and Ozil.(?) That would be a more attacking formation.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 1:25pm On Apr 02, 2016
see my mentions shocked


.celeb things grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 1:35pm On Apr 02, 2016
Spy360:

I think your main point is that Mou plays defensively, which is a fact.

But I don't think Modric at no 10 is defensive. Rather you think he should have had a 3man midfield which should include both Modric and Ozil.(?) That would be a more attacking formation.
A 3-man midfield allows spaces in the middle, which a no 10 would have occupied in the case of 4-2-3-1 formation. The spaces is then filled up with the forwards who constantly drift in and at times, the midfielder who goes on a foray forward to supplies them with the passes and movement needed.
A 2-man midfield on the other hand needed a forward (SS/no 10) to link up with the striker who leads the line while being flanked by the wingers! Hence, putting a CM in the no 10 role instead of a no 10/SS is a defensive approach because the forward's linkup play in the middle is cut off!

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