ogmaskman:

You are a mid joiner. Sidon observe. Tnx.

ogmaskman:


I am set for the debate now.

I will start by introducing myself.
I am delta by tribe. I grew up in warri.
I am married to an igbo woman from ebonyi state.
My business partner is from enugu state and my best friend is from Abia state. He is from the ngwa region (he likes being addressed as such)

Just to drop a hint of who I am so u can appreciate my point of view.

My point is ipob does not represent the entire igbo nation. They lack organisation and cohesion. Many of them are oblivious of the reason for the struggle.

sexybrooke:
my friend you think the mistake of the last war ll emerge again? You think we ll allow this war to be fought only on biafra soil pls my dear don't be deceived .should war start this ll be the pattern of the war since buhari is the GCFR duara ll be a war zone it ll be infiltrated so that him too ll loose friend and relative (2) any general leading the a major assault should watch his community because there ll be another combat zone . remember igbos are everywhere in the world more than any tribe in nigeria ,in a case where my relative in nigeria are killed what do u think I ll do to zara in UK I ll simply kill too and go to jail or be deported back to the US and not nigeria to face jail term and so ll other igbos to top generals and politicians my dear you said buying of MTN card for subscription,hope you know during this war there ll be destruction pipeline ,oil heads and oil companies ll closed Down so no gas to power ur mtn mast in your comfort zone no fuel for your car no light to see light watch cooper anderson when he makes it to your imaginary IDP camps and do you think the biafraaan soldiers in the Nigerian army ll kill their people ? No the army ll split reducing the work force and to all male biafrannn its a must you join the army and lastly this war ll be financed by biafraans in diaspora multiply 100 dollars for every biafraan outside nigeria your calculator run error cos the figures are enormous and I don't think that there is any biafraan that u ll ask of fund to save his or her mother or father even relative from the nigerian soilders and that person won't comply I doubt

macluvph1:



OGMASKMAN, i couldn't reply you earlier because i was banned till April 25th but i have to open up this for the time being,have you seen why i told you that everything about this nation is wron..., why i was banned simply because i said what i believed in and its not suppose to be so which will even make you think am scared and running away from your debate.

Anyway am from Ikwerre in Rivers state, am married to an Edo lady and am also working too which has brought me in contact with the yoruba(Osun) and Hausa/Gbagyi(kaduna)people. and i have always share my view with them.

Bia... is not about War and the initiator/director of IP.B used his strict approach for his voice to be heard, because Nigeria doesn't listen to anything peaceful rather violence(Niger Delta militants and Boko Haram a case study).

Then coming to your question, YES IPOB doesn't represent the entire igbo(Biafra is a multi ethnic nation with similar culture) opinion because in every family its members can't believe in the same opinion,they must always have their different views its always a matter of those with positive opinion to convince those with the negative by telling them the reason why they should think positively. and also dont forget we must also have a saboteur in every dealings. let me stop here to continue later.

Then my question goes thus, CAN you tell me one thing we have achieved since we became the so called ONE NIGERIA.

Sctests:
If the OP is very confident let him go to any state in the East and organize an Anti-Biafran protest.

He can start by removing the Biafran flags flying openly at Ihiala junction if he really means business and stop making noise.

PhockPhockMan:
OP need brain restructuring.

WhoRUDeceiving:


Why? It's like saying a Lion and a zebra must remain in the same field regardless of the obvious differences and natural mindsets that are different. Did the US say they "MUST REMAIN" with England, or India tell Pakistan that they must remain? Why didn't Nigeria "Remain" with England?

Remaining day in and day out, yet no progress. The only time the country made somewhat progress was during the regional system, which reflected the natural boundaries of real nations- Awera, Bini, Biafra, Oduduwa. Now we have a mess that's getting worse and people are too cowardly and childish to think like human beings about their miserable plight.

Look who's ruling Nigeria in 2016 in a democracy- a Coupist.

Is that not shameful?

Those who want to continue "managing" have accepted slavery for themselves and their children. We do not.

ogmaskman:


Brother sorry for the delay. This pple ban me like say tomoro nor dey. I just finish serving my ban.

Good to know you are in phc. I am also in phc. Maybe we can see and familiarise better. I will send my phone number to your email. Tnx.

macluvph1:


Ogmaskman, are you sure you were banned because you don't support Biafra and you write eloquently trying to be conscious of your write ups,so why the ban....., first explain to me why you were banned then from there we can progress.

But still waiting for you to answer my question of what we have achieved as ONE NIGERIA.

macluvph1:


But still waiting for you to answer my question of what we have achieved as ONE NIGERIA.

ogmaskman:


We may not have achieved much but the blame should not go to one region. Every region in Nigeria have had one form of representation or the other at the centre. The question is 'what did they do for their region'?
Take the last administration for example, the igbos were adequately represented. From Secretary to govt to Senate deputy president to house of reps deputy speaker to minister, they were fully represented. Did their presence in govt change the face of igbo land? NO it ddnt. Nigeria may not have served the purpose Of a few but it has served the purpose of many. I tell you brother, we are better of as Nigeria than small porkets of countries.

ogmaskman:


I am set for the debate now.

I will start by introducing myself.
I am delta by tribe. I grew up in warri.
I am married to an igbo woman from ebonyi state.
My business partner is from enugu state and my best friend is from Abia state. He is from the ngwa region (he likes being addressed as such)

Just to drop a hint of who I am so u can appreciate my point of view.

My point is ipob does not represent the entire igbo nation. They lack organisation and cohesion. Many of them are oblivious of the reason for the struggle.

macluvph1:



Did i hear you say represent,NO for the past 16 years of democracy what we have in the south eastern region as our representatives are selected thieves(from Abuja connection with the hausa/fulani/yoruba oligarch)and not elected representatives,lets use Abia state as a case study Orji uzor kalu and his Abuja connection got the PDP ticket for him after his tenure he then imposed Theodre Orji on Abians(you all know the rest) then Anambra in the case of Mbadinuju and Emeka Ofor, Chris Ngige and Chris Uba,Andy Uba and Obasanjo, Obasanjo and Maurice Iwu(INEC Chairman) check out all these names and tell me whether these names are actually what the old eastern region needs as their representation. thats why they find solace in Biafra because it won't be business as usual.

Then check out this state(Anambra) in old eastern that peoples choice(Peter Obi) were considered and see the development they have attained. so if you need more i can still put up many points to tell you we can be better off as a divided country than remaining as one Nigeria.

The worst is that after these so called criminals imposed as our governors and representatives finish their tenure they will either remain in Abuja or travel Abroad because they know they only satisfied the interest of their god fathers and not their people.

Check out Ikedi Ohakim that have never lived in Imo state for more than one month before was once the governor of Imo state through Abuja connection.

My brother the better solution is this, we should divide and the central government should be nearer to us because unity in diversity can only work in western world not in a black man's world because every blackman's heart is filled with tribalism,nepotism and favoritism. so to avoid these things we need to disintegrate.

zendy:

You are Delta by tribe? There are over 300 hundred tribes in Nigeria and not one of them is known as 'Delta'. An English cannot be a name of a tribe in Africa.

iSlayer:

Lol. Nam@. We've been here for years. 3 to be precise. Mods make us bre@k the rules. So newbie stop sounding like a fraudulent newbie and state your tribe. We see your type very well here. And again make sure it's the truth-this page will be bookmarked against your future lie.

ogmaskman:


The godfather thing is everywhere bro, even in the north. Examples abound. I doubt if there is any politician who sailed to power on his own. Same will happen in biafra. It is a way of life and there is little or nothing we can do.
Lemme ask you, why do you think the politicians in biafra will be different from What we have now? Do you think the rivers, delta, Edo, akwa ibom and cross river man will allow the igbo man full control of the oil resource? How will biafra eliminate marginalization especially of the minority?

You see, my brother, it is neither here nor there. What we need as a people is fairness to all. Fairness in this instance does not translate to boundaries. All we need to advocate for is the need and conscious commitment to building stronger institutions and not powerful individuals as is the case today.

Btw, I think you are married to my sister.

macluvph1:



Yes politcians are bound to have god fathers but it depends on individual,eg Peter obi has a god father in ojukwu then but Ojukwu played an advisory role not like the scavengers we have in Nigeria that plays godfatherism for their own selfish interest if not for ojukwu's action today Anambra state would have been another free meal from what emeka offor started through his Abuja connections(Hausa/fulani/yoruba oligarchs).

Secondly,if you have listened to Nnamdi kanu vividly without sentiments he preached independence of each state in the biafra region,he wants to make biafran federal government to be weak so that the excessive money the politicians spend in campagn will dissappear and the federal government will be less attractive. he(Nnamdi kanu)stated that Aba man or Igbanke man should not rely on ijaw man oil to survive that all hands must be on desk to make sure we source out our talents for development, then by so doing nothing will be like minority and everybody will be carried along.

meanwhile nigeria is not a country you preach for fairness because to the present government they believe that without our south-south vote and south east vote that they will still clinge to power so we dont see anything like fairness coming soon but if they decide to change we will still eat whatever benefit that comes with it and still reject them(memories of Ken sar wiwa,isaac adaka boro et al are still in our mind)because they(North and south west)really dont want us near the corridors of power that's why they tagged our brother infidel and sabotaged his government anyway i blamed him for his inexperience.

Finally,Yes i am married to your sister(my lovely Edo wife)and to be honest with you initially my house is a no go area for both of us in Biafra issue but i gave her my reasons for not supporting Biafra and my neutrality during election made her to be convinced the more. but what changed my wife's opinion to biafra that made her an ardent Biafra follower was when i showed her the various youtube video of how nnamdi kanu was brought to court with handcuffs and also the youtube video of dasuki who spent money meant to be used to fight terrorism was brought to court like a king, i also played the youtube video of kabiru sokoto and the abba moro. honestly the video got her mad and she started singing biafra praise even in her place of work because biafra is for the oppresed in the Nigeria society.

But brother before i converted my wife some things played out at a point my wife was consistently giving me yam cos i hate yam so much and its more especially anytime i come home with Biafra gist(she will go to the fridge and bring out that yam she has cooked since and put in the freezer,she will steam it and give me even though she prepared a new soup that day.she doesn't care rather na yam we go chop that night)then secondly no night show for bed for that night(you know naaaa.....). also at a point she also gave me this reason that she won't support biafra because if it comes i will send her home cos of where she comes from and pick an ikwerre girl, i smiled and told her to me she is my first Biafra of physical then the restoration of Biafra is the accomplishment. the smile and hug i got that night has no bounds.

ogmaskman:


Honestly I enjoyed reading your post. But things are not as easy as they sound. For a biafra to materialize, there must first be unity of purpose. I say again, your reason for rejecting Nigeria is still based on marginalization and resource control.
To the extent that we have control (politically and otherwise) what have we done to improve the lot of our people. What makes you think that the man (our politicians) will change overnight because he now answers biafran. or will they be giving the Rowlings treatment?
Lemme give you a few examples to buttress my point. In the east today if a Catholic becomes the gov it is expected that the deputy should be of the Anglican stock. Sometime ago an anambra lady married to Abia man was made chief judge of Abia state. The pple of Abia rejected her for the silly reason she was not born abian. No recourse to qualification, entitlement, professionalism and humanity. In rivers here, it is a case of another ikwere again. Another upland man again.
I tell you all of this will still be active sign posts in the biafra you intend to build. As you must be aware by now, am not against a biafran republic but simply saying it's no use jumping from fry pan to fire. Why not fix the fry pan bfor you put it on fire to at least reduce associated damage.
It will suprise you to know that there are Christians in the north just as we have Muslims in the east. If a marriage does not work do you just bail out, or you put in effort to mend fences. As a pple, have the biafrans done enough? Have their representatives seen it fit to work towards a better tomoro? At a point the entire east was tied to the building of the second Niger bridge as if that will soak all the problems plaguing the east.
I feel very strongly that we are placing the cart befor the horse.

BobUg28:
To move this country forward is a task and it must be done by You and I. Our enemies are political leaders who major mindset centres on enriching themselves without minding the plight of its citizens. They want to permanently keep this country in darkness. No amount of wailing and counter-wailing will help revive this country unless we collectively spark up a good, unified and single-minded economic revolutionary plan. Follow it and work towards the betterment of Nigeria. Over 30yrs after the civil war and it is like yesterday, nothing lost were regained yet some are still clamouring for another bloody war. I haven't forgotten the history as written by Chinua Achebe.


Those of our fathers and grandfathers who were actors in the war, who saw what happened during the civil war should please tell their children and grandchildren the truth and the experiences they had. This little messages is to remind us of the past and those things that happened in the past. And to help direct our minds to achieving a lasting peace and stability irrespective of who is been cheated. Nigeria political system is like a swivelling seat. It will certainly reach to all the six geo-political zone. Let's exercise patients, It's only a matter of time. The Northerners can never rule till eternity so is the Westerners and the Easterners.



Our people says "Nwata hu ógu egboro-egbo, agu ógu aguwa-ya". A second war in this country will see the end of this country. Kill the dreams of the so-called Biafrans and perhaps, without even achieving its sovereignty. We better be careful, We want no more wars in this nation, who the cap fits, let him wear. And Let peace reign.