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Re: Did Joseph Prince Really Say This? by Image123(m): 10:10pm On Mar 11, 2016 |
Gombs: i believe my brother Ola was trying to say just that. |
Re: Did Joseph Prince Really Say This? by Gombs(m): 6:17am On Mar 12, 2016 |
Re: Did Joseph Prince Really Say This? by oyeludef(m): 7:31am On Mar 12, 2016 |
i used to be a fan of joseph prince cos i loved his preachings on tbn and there he doesnt speak controversially and weneva he spoke something i dont understand, i will dismiss it dat propably i did not understand him. Last year my fiancee bought me dis his book destined to reign cos she knows how i download his sermons on youtube. D man is very subtle oo. I didnt understand it at first but wen i read d book halfway, it became clear he was teaching eternal security. 2peters 2 give a detailed description of false teachers and should sound a warning to all those who follow them. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Did Joseph Prince Really Say This? by analice107: 8:22am On Mar 12, 2016 |
oyeludef: My dear, I really tried connecting spiritually with that guy, I couldn't. Once I picked his book "Right Believing", I couldn't go pass Chapter One. I kept picking and dropping that book. The little I read, I found it really Watered Down. I never really raise any brows till guys started talking about him here. It's well. But some Brethren are quite taken by him. 1 Like |
Re: Did Joseph Prince Really Say This? by oyeludef(m): 8:47am On Mar 12, 2016 |
analice107:sister, its very easy to be taken by him because of his gift of teaching. He is truly gifted. It is so easy to fall into d hands of false teachers because dey are people who have tasted d good word of God. D whole of 2peter 2 talks about false teachers 1 Like |
Re: Did Joseph Prince Really Say This? by vooks: 9:19am On Mar 12, 2016 |
Joseph Prince is just a polished Calvinist who on coats Calvinism with motivational pep talk. Calvinism doctrine has some absurd conclusions which most Calvinists seldom follow through. Here are a few; 1. Jesus died for some and not all humans. The unfortunate ones he never died for will end up in hell and there's nothing you can do about them. They can't even repent,many if they did, God would never accept their repentance 2. A born again man can commit ANY sin including the worst of them; apostasy and still end up in heaven 3. God saves whoever He wishes to save regardless of their will/choice 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Did Joseph Prince Really Say This? by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:17pm On Mar 13, 2016 |
Amberon: It is still wrong. ![]() |
Re: Did Joseph Prince Really Say This? by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:08pm On Mar 14, 2016 |
esere826: Deal with the issue at hand without attacking my person. You don't have to attack me before you make your point. |
Re: Did Joseph Prince Really Say This? by esere826: 9:26pm On Mar 15, 2016 |
OLAADEGBU:Lol Of course olaa, I wasn't attacking you. I cant stoop to such level. I was only showing you how texts can be lifted out of context, and misused. I'm actually surprised that you could not notice my play with words. This is what I did. I made a full statement, then demonstrated how some folks pick out the sensational bits out of context. Uhmmm. Come to think of it, if you couldn't notice something so obvious, how can I trust your assessment of more weighty stuff. |
Re: Did Joseph Prince Really Say This? by vooks: 6:33am On Mar 16, 2016 |
esere826:Deeper Life simpleton ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Did Joseph Prince Really Say This? by OgaMadam(f): 8:27am On Mar 16, 2016 |
I don't believe it. It was probably take out of context. Show us that whole sermon then we will judge |
Re: Did Joseph Prince Really Say This? by promisechuks: 11:07pm On Mar 17, 2016 |
OgaMadam:Please don't mind the OP. Start from the first page of the thread to see my first comment regarding to what he said about it. |
Re: Did Joseph Prince Really Say This? by Silas4exploits: 1:01am On Mar 24, 2016 |
promisechuks:Big lie! You ofcourse have no biblical proof for these. Infact you interpretation of the bible in respect to the nature of sin is wrong! I'm a living testimony to the fact that the blood of Jesus is so potent that it can save from nature as well as actions. Infact at salvation I got the power that I hated and could nomore commit my past sins. It was not a gradual process. It was an instantaneous one! On the cross, he declared it is finished. Everything was finished. When he saves and sanctify you, he does not partly deliver you from sin(nature) and leave you to battle with the actions. It's total victory! Once again i'm a testimony! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Did Joseph Prince Really Say This? by Scholar8200(m): 8:42am On Mar 24, 2016 |
Silas4exploits:Thank God for your life bro. May God grant us more grace to serve Him acceptably till we see Him face to face! |
Re: Did Joseph Prince Really Say This? by vooks: 10:03am On Mar 24, 2016 |
Silas4exploits: Hallelujah!! Question Do you sin? If yes, can you recall the last time you sinned? |
Re: Did Joseph Prince Really Say This? by promisechuks: 10:44am On Mar 24, 2016 |
Silas4exploits:Please, sincerely answer this questions. Does accepting christ make you SINLESS in FLESH by works? Quote from the scripture! And list out people who lived a sinless life after accepting christ. PROVE WITH SCRIPTURE!!! Will you go to heaven because you don't commit sin as a believer? Does falling into temptation of sin, makes a believer a sinner? If yes, peter and paul still witnessed sin functioning on their flesh even after accepting christ, were they tagged as sinners? And if you say they asked for forgiveness after the sin, show me in the scriptures where they prayed the prayer of forgiven. Can sin hinder one from heaven? If yes, what happened in the case of moses, abraham, samson(who died by suicide), peter(who committed hypocrisy Gal 3). What is the difference between the system of forgiveness between the new testament and the old testament? Why are we sinners before God? Why are we righteous before God? What is the reality of christ death? Did christ die on the cross so that we CAN NEVER commit sin and become SINLESS like God? If yes, how did he die to make it happen? Was he ever under the influence of sin OVER FLESH on the cross? PROVE WITH SCRIPTURE!!! Is there any difference between the righteous life you are living now(as you claimed) and the righteousness of God? 1 Like |
Re: Did Joseph Prince Really Say This? by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:27pm On Apr 05, 2016 |
Scholar8200: Good question. Why are believers to watch and pray if there are no dangers of backsliding once we believe? Lets hope they will answer this question. ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Did Joseph Prince Really Say This? by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:31am On Apr 07, 2016 |
Scholar8200: These guys have either forgotten or are ignorant of the part where Jesus said only overcomers will inherit all things. This includes overcoming sin. They should read the verse below up to verse 8. "He that overcomes shall inherit all things; and I will be His God and he shall be my son" (Revelation 21:7). 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: Did Joseph Prince Really Say This? by Bartork(m): 11:17am On Apr 07, 2016 |
Muafrika2: That church started over 30years ago New International Version When he comes, he will prove the world to be in the wrong about sin and righteousness and judgment: New Living Translation And when he comes, he will convict the world of its sin, and of God's righteousness, and of the coming judgment. English Standard Version And when he comes, he will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment: Berean Study Bible And when He comes, He will convict the world in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment: Berean Literal Bible And having come, He will convict the world concerning sin, and concerning righteousness, and concerning judgment: New American Standard Bible "And He, when He comes, will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment; King James Bible And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: Holman Christian Standard Bible When He comes, He will convict the world about sin, righteousness, and judgment: International Standard Version When he comes, he will convict the world of sin, righteousness, and judgment— NET Bible And when he comes, he will prove the world wrong concerning sin and righteousness and judgment-- Aramaic Bible in Plain English “And when he comes, he will correct the world concerning sin and concerning righteousness and concerning judgment;” GOD'S WORD® Translation He will come to convict the world of sin, to show the world what has God's approval, and to convince the world that God judges it. New American Standard 1977 “And He, when He comes, will convict the world concerning sin, and righteousness, and judgment; Jubilee Bible 2000 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin and of righteousness and of judgment: King James 2000 Bible And when he is come, he will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: American King James Version And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: American Standard Version And he, when he is come, will convict the world in respect of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: Douay-Rheims Bible And when he is come, he will convince the world of sin, and of justice, and of judgment. Darby Bible Translation And having come, he will bring demonstration to the world, of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: English Revised Version And he, when he is come, will convict the world in respect of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: Webster's Bible Translation And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: Weymouth New Testament And He, when He comes, will convict the world in respect of sin, of righteousness, and of judgement; -- World English Bible When he has come, he will convict the world about sin, about righteousness, and about judgment; Young's Literal Translation and having come, He will convict the world concerning sin, and concerning righteousness, and concerning judgment; John 16:8 |
Re: Did Joseph Prince Really Say This? by Joshthefirst(m): 12:15pm On Apr 07, 2016 |
Yo! OLA, vooks, muafrika2, be careful not to judge a matter out of context. Abeg. The Holy Spirit is a comforter of Children of God, not their convicter, not their condemner. He convicts THE WORLD, NOT THE BELOVED. Be careful when you go around labelling people as false teachers or devils. Be very careful to understand scripture, and please be careful to listen adequately by the spirit to people before you judge their message. Abeg. Joseph prince is a teacher full of the grace, power and word of God. His word, works, and testimony align with the scripture he teaches. Pastor Chris is also a very anointed man of God.(his own no be here sef. He's a kingdom advancer, he has motivated similar men and they are using Gods power and influence to take the gospel to the ends of the earth, why will you come around and criticize people like that? Nawa o). Listen to people like this and judge from the word what they say and your life would never remain the same. You'll be inspired by Gods love and become even more motivated to take the gospel everywhere you go. |
Re: Did Joseph Prince Really Say This? by Joshthefirst(m): 12:27pm On Apr 07, 2016 |
Gombs:Thank you abeg brother Gombs. Can you imagine what anyone means when they say the Holy Spirit convicts christians? Oboye! To convict means to find and declare someone guilty! After Jesus has rendered us blameless and holy and unreproveable in God's sight, how can the Spirit of God find us guilty once again? Jesus said that the Spirit will not speak of himself, but he will speak whatsoever he hears Jesus say! He will glorify Jesus, and receive of Jesus to show unto us! Glory to God! (John 16:13-15) Jesus has made us righteous, justified. He cannot speak conviction against his beloved, unless we cease to be his beloved. 1 Like |
Re: Did Joseph Prince Really Say This? by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:25pm On Apr 07, 2016 |
Joshthefirst: Are you saying that the Holy Spirit does not chastise you when you go astray? ![]() |
Re: Did Joseph Prince Really Say This? by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:35pm On Apr 07, 2016 |
Gombs: Where you modern day preachers get it wrong is that you call your sins mistakes or faults. When the Holy Spirit points out your sins it for you to repent. "Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent" (Revelation 2:5). 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: Did Joseph Prince Really Say This? by Joshthefirst(m): 8:40pm On Apr 07, 2016 |
OLAADEGBU:If he does, its is from a position of counsel, and comfort, to guide me to repentance. My own conscience is enough chastisement. And you do know there's a difference between chastise and convict right? ![]() |
Re: Did Joseph Prince Really Say This? by oyeludef(m): 4:36pm On Apr 11, 2016 |
Joshthefirst:so wat happened in d case of ananias and saphira who lied to d holy spirit? Counsel? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Did Joseph Prince Really Say This? by Scholar8200(m): 6:30pm On Apr 11, 2016 |
Lest we forget, Paul's scathing rebuke to the Galatian and Corinthian churches was INSPIRED! |
Re: Did Joseph Prince Really Say This? by Image123(m): 10:02am On Apr 12, 2016 |
Joshthefirst: Why would the Holy Spirit tell sinners to repent of sin but refuse to tell believers if they sin? 1 Like |
Re: Did Joseph Prince Really Say This? by TheHarbinger(m): 1:26am On Apr 13, 2016 |
Image123:I didn't say this. We are children of God, not sinners. The Holy Spirit doesn't convict or condemn people who have already been saved from condemnation |
Re: Did Joseph Prince Really Say This? by TheHarbinger(m): 1:29am On Apr 13, 2016 |
oyeludef:Judgement. Same thing that happened to Herod when he came against the church with persecutions |
Re: Did Joseph Prince Really Say This? by ABDULADINO(m): 8:05am On Apr 13, 2016 |
TheHarbinger:Ananias and saphira were believers. Herod wasn't. I believe God was protecting the infancy stage of the church that's why the Judgement came. Paul said you can deliver such one to Satan for the destruction of his flesh in order to save his spirit. I am with Joseph prince on this. The Holy Spirit doesn't convict believers. 1 Like |
Re: Did Joseph Prince Really Say This? by oyeludef(m): 12:32pm On Apr 13, 2016 |
ABDULADINO:how contradictory. He doesnt convict but he judges abi? 1 Like |
Re: Did Joseph Prince Really Say This? by ABDULADINO(m): 8:46pm On Apr 13, 2016 |
oyeludef:Is convict and Judge one and the same? ![]() 1 Like |
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