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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:55pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
Patchesagain:so what was the reason for the big party you held in 1994 ? 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Patchesagain: 3:59pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
kikuyu1: I saw the video of the base attack Most of the base seemed unaffected after the VBID attack, there were at least 2 Panhard AML's and one WZ still running around during the battle, with the inner defences still intact. It was simply a question of a poorly constructed base and poor intelligence (they should have had OP's out) and perhaps a lack of certain fundamental drills (dawn/dusk stand-to) and no fire support. But that is just guess work from me watching a one-sided propaganda video But yes I agree, in the 15-20 min it would have taken air-support to arrive the AS fighters would have been inside the base allready. Obviously having a huge VBID go off will cause massive confusion at first, but if everyone knows where to go it shouldent be a problem for more than 10min. But, on the otherhand, I think it was Napoleon who said that a battle can be lost in a single minute. But I know that the Kenyan MOD will scrutinize the video and makes the necessary changes
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Patchesagain: 4:00pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
africaken254: What is the reason for you asking me off topic and irrelevant questions? 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 4:03pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
Henry240:i have heard of this single acquisition,i just hope they are going to utilise them appropriately with the other recent refurnished helicopters |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 4:34pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
kikuyu1:so what changed that now nigeria military is now getting equipments and training from the US !That nonsense we are being told by the MOD was destroyed is pure rubbish,in the photos and footage released by alshabaab,a kenya army land rover used for Comms can clearly be seen in possesion of alshabaab. basically from your comment i dont think you have clue about anything relate to military.what i am here from you is just politician talk.you need to have an interest on something before you have an opinion about it ,if you still assume there is no difference between a GBU-12 and Mark 82 Bomb.i dont know why we are having this discussion |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 4:38pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
Patchesagain:amnesia at this tender age |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 5:21pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
Patchesagain: i have to agree with about the poorly constructed outpost but the issue of their state of alertness i have to disagree with most of the soldier killed had their gear even their boots.i have had one concern about how KDF constructs its outpost from the leaked video on an attack in lamu on a KDF outpost ,the alshabaab sneaked so close that they were next to a parked APC in the camp outpost if you observe outpost constructed by the americans in afganistan ,with a perimeter made from Hesco bastions over 10 feet high with razor wire on top and towers at each corner .also they made sure they clear view of the surrounding area,compare el adde where thick bushes surrounded the outpost even inside the out post 1 Share
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Patchesagain: 5:26pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
africaken254: I fail to see how majority rule relates to South African military strength in anything other than making it stronger |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by bidexiii: 5:31pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
africaken254: Building these kind of strong outpost is cost effective; and that's what some african/sub-sahara countries are facing; poor funding,training and equipping of troops in the frontlines. It will take an heavily laiden car bomb to take out that type of wall, and even before it gets to the wall it will be already taken out. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZA: 5:36pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
africaken254:Ground based early warning systems The Lamu outpost looked like the chaps had just stopped to rest, I mean from the video it didn't look like there was any fence, trenches etc |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 5:46pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
bidexiii: I suppose you mean it isn't cost effective. Where would militaries in Africa get the money to finance outposts like that. That particular US military outpost cost nothing short of $15 - 20 million to construct. It is great, but where would the money come from, are we going to sh1t $20 million for every El adde and Doron-Baga. When we are done building at this cost, would we then kneel down, pray to God to give us money for Ammo, equipment and APC because we have invested all our money in building 4 outposts? What we should do is to develop cost effective military solutions to our monumental problems, just as the Russians did in Syria and not to fight wars like the US or it's NATO allies, who even by the way do not even have the money to fund their militaries like the U.S. The U.S contributes 73% of all NATO funding. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Patchesagain: 5:57pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
Henry240: Hesco barriers, sandbags and earth movers arent THAT expensive If you have a rope and a chainsaw you can clear foliage. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Patchesagain: 5:57pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
Henry240: Hesco barriers, sandbags and earth movers arent THAT expensive If worst comes to worst you get out your spade and dig into the ground.. sweat and dirt are free If you have a rope and a chainsaw you can clear foliage. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by gottfried21(m): 6:03pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
Where can I watch the attack on the Kenyan Outpost? |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Patchesagain: 6:06pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
gottfried21: the internet Give me a sec, i will find it |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by gottfried21(m): 6:15pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
Patchesagain:*Facepalm* Okay Spotted this in town earlier Agrale Marrua
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Patchesagain: 6:17pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:19pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
Henry240:,what i have seen AMISOM soldiers do.is construct shelters using hescos rather live in tents .hesco bastion should be used to build a perimeter defensive wall only |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by gottfried21(m): 6:25pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
Patchesagain:Done saving it...You can take it down now I guess Don't wanna promote Terrorist content now do we.Thank you Chief |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:35pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
Patchesagain: Look at those photos posted by Africaken, that outpost would set any army nothing lower than $15 million to construct. They aren't that expensive until you realise you need to build 30 outposts in the AO. Are African militaries going to sh1t out the money to construct that? Let's me not even try to be delusional, the Nigerian military cannot build outpost that look like that. The Nigerian solution to out post defence has been to first construct trenches round the bases. Build 4 Sentry positions, add sand bags, deploy 2 soldiers each, taking 2 hours turns. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Patchesagain: 6:41pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
Henry240:100 sets of hesco barrier cost $100 http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/hesco-barriers-price.html |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:45pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
Henry240: who much would it cost to build a hesco bastion perimeter wall then ?i am not talking about the air conditioned tents, the generator ,the fuel dump e.t.c |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Patchesagain: 6:46pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
Henry240: First off, you are guessing the price Second off, hesco barriers cost $1 dollar a unit, so you can get 1000 for $1000 which gives you 5km of hesco wall Third off, a second hand mini digger goes (according to google) for 18 000 Pound Sterling http://www.mascus.co.uk/construction/used-mini-diggers-excavators-7 So, for an investment of $19 000 you get 5km of hesco and a machine to quickly load them. But, that is only the initial capital investment, in real terms you are looking at $1000-$2000 per FOB or patrol house as you can move your diggers from one place to the next. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:46pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
Patchesagain: I wasn't only referring to the hesco barrier though. Although the Hesco alone should do. It is cheap, the hescos. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Patchesagain: 6:47pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
africaken254: Exactly, American bases are expensive because they bring all the luxuries of life into their bases... including KFC and Burger King Basic earth fortifications are cheap Pic: SADF fortification in Nam
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:48pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
africaken254: I was referring to everything in that photo, not just the Hesco. Although, i didn't know until now those Hesco bags are that cheap. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Patchesagain: 6:55pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
Anyway, I think Isreal wins the "base building" competition (i added the writing on the sign)
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:56pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
Henry240:our militarizes should even start manufacturing their own Hesco to even bring the cost down,promote local manufacturing sector
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:59pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
Nigerian army RM-70 saying hello to a couple boko friends. 2 Likes
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 7:03pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
africaken254: I agree. It is an easy build. It's built with the same sort of material used in cement bags, with an added wire mesh. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZA: 7:13pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
Patchesagain:Lmao! 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by snydergp1st(m): 7:17pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
africaken254: independence guy are you for real Go school yourself pls. 1 Like 1 Share |
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