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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Elxandre(m): 9:42am On Apr 17, 2016
Kagawa10:

Di maria had 2 pass master in Alonso and Modric in the midfield hence, his inconsistent passing was given some leeway as opposed to our average midfield where we can't afford huge turnovers in midfield! He was a liability for us and he's not proving anything for Psg in that shite league! The true test came against City and he was still the same shite player!
And Young has rarely played this season!
Since LVG knew we had poor midfielders, signing him was pointless and poorly thought then.
Di Maria can only make real consistent devastating impact through the middle.

Young has rarely played this season? Lol.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 9:50am On Apr 17, 2016
They ve come again with all their unnecessary hype o. They should free the boy and let him play his game angry

10 top U23 European forwards Marcus Rashford is outscoring in 2016
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 10:02am On Apr 17, 2016
SailorXY:

there was a man critical of players' performance in the same very game, yet it turns out he wasn't even close to a TV set with Man Utd on.
sometimes i shake my head when i see peeps trying to hold reasonable convo with him, the guy is clearly a lunatic.
grin grin grin no mind that m0r0n cheesy the guy no de watch match, I found out after I had my first argument with him.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 10:07am On Apr 17, 2016
What do you guys think about higuain? Na the kain player we need or is Harry Kane better?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 10:28am On Apr 17, 2016
Elxandre:

Since LVG knew we had poor midfielders, signing him was pointless and poorly thought then.
Di Maria can only make real consistent devastating impact through the middle.

Young has rarely played this season? Lol.
Lvg signed him with the hope of signing a winger and since Di Maria has played as a winger in most of his career, I don't see why it would be wrong for Lvg to give him a try. He's always had a winger that can gives some unpredictability and bite in the attack like Robben etc and he thought Di Maria would but it didn't work out in the end.
And do you actually think Di Maria is only inconsistent on the wing? Believe me, he's also inconsistent in the midfield, it just that when he's poor form, his runs/dribbles through the middle atleast provides the space for Modric and Alonso to exploit in the midfield but for us who don't have these kind of playmaker, playing Di Maria in the midfield is totally liability!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 10:42am On Apr 17, 2016
Dadehmola:


..another testament to the fact that your cognitive abilities are at an all-time-low, you mentally handicapped cretinous fucktárd!!

LVG was given the liberty and financial backing to purchase the players he felt would suit his "philosophy" (which he did).For obvious reasons, a good number of those signings aren't performing up to expectation, the team looks disjointed and you are here asking fooolish questions about "big-money flops".

Is the curse on you this strong??



....only for the same Ancelotti to stick him out on the wing at Oldtrafford...afterall he was our manager last season.

This kinda asinine thought process would always make peeps question your sanity just like SailorXY did some moments ago, you troglodytic airhead!




You forgot to add Blackett & Mcnair (last season), you forgetful little tramp. grin grin

If I may ask, how exactly are they having it "easy" as you claim?



See liar! How many good games did Mcnair and Blackett have for us?
Blackett didn't even have any, it was only in the pre-season he looked good and even then, he made plenty of mistake like in the AS Roma game. Mcnair on the other hand only had 1 good game where he dominated Lukaku in the air in the Everton game and it didn't take 2-3 games before we realised how out of depth he is!
Hence, comparing these players to Rashford, Blind, Lingard, Martial who's had plenty of games and are still showing their quality is quite absurd and Stup!d!
That said, I already explained as to why Lvg played Di Maria on the wing! Atleast when he turned over possession on the wing, it wouldn't hurt us directly as opposed to the midfield which is quite average in the first place and can't afford further liability. Funny enough, Lvg deployed Di Marial in the midfield in plenty of games and he was still awful. Apart from the fact that Di Maria's bottom level is so awful, this was a player who had his head already in Psg.
And I Repeat again, apart from Depay, none of Van gaal's big money signing has flopped!
You eediots can go eat sand if you can't take that!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Elxandre(m): 10:45am On Apr 17, 2016
Kagawa10:

Lvg signed him with the hope of signing a winger and since Di Maria has played as a winger in most of his career, I don't see why it would be wrong for Lvg to give him a try. He's always had a winger that can gives some unpredictability and bite in the attack like Robben etc and he thought Di Maria would but it didn't work out in the end.
And do you actually think Di Maria is only inconsistent on the wing? Believe me, he's also inconsistent in the midfield, it just that when he's poor form, his runs/dribbles through the middle atleast provides the space for Modric and Alonso to exploit in the midfield but for us who don't have these kind of playmaker, playing Di Maria in the midfield is totally liability!
You no understand English Abi?

Since playing Di Maria in the midfield was a liability, why then did LVG sign him since that was his best position at Real Madrid?

When Di Maria was playing on the wings at Madrid in previous seasons, no one would have splashed around €70 million on him because he was often frustrating.

Let's just say LVG wasted our money and time signing Di Maria.

This is the reason, I will never blame Di Maria for being a flop at United. Van Gaal's philosophy was mostly shyte.

I've been seeing your arguments here, and I'm going to convince you LVG is shyte! tongue
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 10:48am On Apr 17, 2016
Elxandre:

You no understand English Abi?

Since playing Di Maria in the midfield was a liability, why then did LVG sign him since that was his best position at Real Madrid?

When Di Maria was playing on the wings at Madrid in previous seasons, no one would have splashed around €70 million on him because he was often frustrating.

Let's just say LVG wasted our money and time signing Di Maria.

This is the reason, I will never blame Di Maria for being a flop at United. Van Gaal's philosophy was mostly shyte.

I've been seeing your arguments here, and I'm going to convince you LVG is shyte! tongue
LOL!
Whether in midfield or on the wing, Di Maria was shite for us, you can take that or leave it and it was not Lvg that made him look shite for Psg against City in both leg!
Yeye!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Elxandre(m): 10:53am On Apr 17, 2016
Kagawa10:

See liar! How many good games did Mcnair and Blackett have for us?
Blackett didn't even have any, it was only in the pre-season he looked good and even then, he made plenty of mistake like in the AS Roma game. Mcnair on the other hand only had 1 good game where he dominated Lukaku in the air in the Everton game and it didn't take 2-3 games before we realised how out of depth he is!
Hence, comparing these players to Rashford, Blind, Lingard, Martial who's had plenty of games and are still showing their quality is quite absurd and Stup!d!
That said, I already explained as to why Lvg played Di Maria on the wing! Atleast when he turned over possession on the wing, it wouldn't hurt us directly as opposed to the midfield which is quite average in the first place and can't afford further liability. Funny enough, Lvg deployed Di Marial in the midfield in plenty of games and he was still awful. Apart from the fact that Di Maria's bottom level is so awful, this was a player who had his head already in Psg.
And I Repeat again, apart from Depay, none of Di Maria's big money signing has flopped!
You eediots can go eat sand if you can't take that!

grin

Are you saying LVG has been very good this year?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:54am On Apr 17, 2016
parrotibaba:
What do you guys think about higuain? Na the kain player we need or is Harry Kane better?
Harry Kane is young and he's a proven EPL striker. Higuain is a world class striker no doubt but he will be 29 by December. And he can be quite stupîd and useless in the most important of matches(World Cup and Copa Final).

Kane is a better choice....
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Elxandre(m): 10:58am On Apr 17, 2016
AdeLaNa1:
Harry Kane is young and he's a proven EPL striker. Higuain is a world class striker no doubt but he will be 29 by December. And he can be quite stupîd and useless in the most important of matches(World Cup and Copa Final).

Kane is a better choice....
Who do you think is better between Benz and Higuain?

Just asking...

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 11:25am On Apr 17, 2016
Elxandre:

Who do you think is better between Benz and Higuain?

Just asking...
Personally i'd pick Higuain. I think he's a better striker than Benzema.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 11:34am On Apr 17, 2016
Elxandre:


grin

Are you saying LVG has been very good this year?

The boy has mental problems..

Free am biko!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Elxandre(m): 11:55am On Apr 17, 2016
AdeLaNa1:
Personally i'd pick Higuain. I think he's a better striker than Benzema.
Hmm...

Though many will prefer lazy Benzema to Higuain. Lol
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lordfalcao(m): 12:00pm On Apr 17, 2016
Elxandre:
Who do you think is better between Benz and Higuain?
Just asking...
higuain is better, Benzema has lackadaisical attitude
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Elxandre(m): 12:01pm On Apr 17, 2016
I've been seeing too many articles suggesting Madrid will have it tough against City, and I'm just laughing.

City midfield will be overrun by Madrid midfield.
Casemiro is not Mikel that De Bruyne will toy with. cheesy

Marcelo sef is enough to end Zabaletta's career. grin

The only thing that will save City is if the gods are angry with Madrid. smiley
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lordfalcao(m): 12:02pm On Apr 17, 2016
parrotibaba:
What do you guys think about higuain? Na the kain player we need or is Harry Kane better?
Harry is good, Higuain is more experienced
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MrTA(m): 12:14pm On Apr 17, 2016
Plus Harry would cost £100m. And as it stands O don't see him coming to us this summer.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by joeace2020(m): 12:31pm On Apr 17, 2016
Elxandre:
I've been seeing too many articles suggesting Madrid will have it tough against City, and I'm just laughing.

City midfield will be overrun by Madrid midfield.
Casemiro is not Mikel that De Bruyne will toy with. cheesy

Marcelo sef is enough to end Zabaletta's career. grin

The only thing that will save City is if the gods are angry with Madrid. smiley

The same way MSN was looking for only one goal against athletico...My brother football is not kalo kalo
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by joeace2020(m): 12:34pm On Apr 17, 2016
MrTA:
Plus Harry would cost £100m. And as it stands O don't see him coming to us this summer.

If you were a fan of tottenham and every season the big spenders keep luring your stars with money...how would you feel? Rashford is good enough, we need experience and not another kid. All those even considering kane and saying we should get him at any price are plain glory hunters.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Elxandre(m): 12:38pm On Apr 17, 2016
joeace2020:


The same way MSN was looking for only one goal against athletico...My brother football is not kalo kalo
How dare you place almighty Athletico in the same pedestal with City?

Mangala, Otamendi etc... Lol.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Elxandre(m): 12:40pm On Apr 17, 2016
joeace2020:


If you were a fan of tottenham and every season the big spenders keep luring your stars with money...how would you feel? Rashford is good enough, we need experience and not another kid. All those even considering kane and saying we should get him at any price are plain glory hunters.
An 18 year old won't lead you to title glory.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 12:45pm On Apr 17, 2016
Elxandre:
I've been seeing too many articles suggesting Madrid will have it tough against City, and I'm just laughing.

City midfield will be overrun by Madrid midfield.
Casemiro is not Mikel that De Bruyne will toy with. cheesy

Marcelo sef is enough to end Zabaletta's career. grin

The only thing that will save City is if the gods are angry with Madrid. smiley
It will be easier for Madrid if Toure is played in that midfield.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Elxandre(m): 12:51pm On Apr 17, 2016
chrisley024:
It will be easier for Madrid if Toure is played in that midfield.
I know they won't dare, so I didn't mention that. tongue
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 1:09pm On Apr 17, 2016
Elxandre:
I've been seeing too many articles suggesting Madrid will have it tough against City, and I'm just laughing.

City midfield will be overrun by Madrid midfield.
Casemiro is not Mikel that De Bruyne will toy with. cheesy

Marcelo sef is enough to end Zabaletta's career. grin

The only thing that will save City is if the gods are angry with Madrid. smiley
don't be surprised when Man City wins the champions league.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 1:23pm On Apr 17, 2016
My thoughts.
As a long serving fan it is difficult to take what's been going on at a club that's been used to success over the best part of nearly three decades.
The thought was that van Gaal, respected across Europe for his achievements, would add a new dimension to our style of play.
He made some limited progress in his first season, noting that we had a shocker of a season under David Moyes, but in general he has underwhelmed and underperformed in virtually all areas.
His style of play does not suit the personnel on ground, yet he persists with whatever it is he is calls his philosophy.
He continually plays guys out of position. A few have worked (Blind), but overall it reached alarmingly deluded proportions at Tottenham. Playing Martial wide left, Young as striker, Mata wide and Lingard as number 10 only gives one the impression of him (van Gaal) as being confused.
We might say he gave chances to youth, but did he really have a choice? Half the squad were out injured, and if it were not for Rooney being injured we might never have have known how good Rashford was. For me, he hasn't covered himself in much glory when you think that some of his purchase flopped so spectacularly that we United fans have no business trying to justify any of them.

On the basis of the above, LvG cannot complain if he is relieved of his job in the summer.A 4th placed finish and an unlikely FA Cup win will not salvage the damage of the season that had so much expectations. He has failed to garner any confidence in even his most ardent supporters, and keeps putting off the evil day with one unexpected result or the other. While it is a bit unfair to be talking about his successor while the season has progressed, van Gaal can rail at the media for all he likes. The media didn't cause him to spend money on players he can't get anything meaningful from, neither did they conjure up the insipid performances and embarrassments he has served us over the course of the season. The media didn't force him to make ridiculous tactical and technical gaffes as well, and he would do best to avoid questions about his future and accept the blame for this mishap of a season. He brought all of this on himself and has no one but himself to blame.

I see peeps here trying to define the actual sum spent on players. It's not really the main issue for me. What is is that he got players that can't and shouldn't be wearing a United shirt,even for an Instagram or snapchat post. Those players have been shown up on occasion and for me, I think that is the worrying thing. We have gotten to the point where we can't get to buy the kind of players that we truly desire because of the bizarre set of circumstances we find ourselves in: in danger of missing out on Champions League football for e second time in 3 seasons. So no matter how we try, we cannot avoid the mediocre players going for astonishingly incredible fees. And so for me, whoever comes in faces a dilemma of trying to attract players to a side that won't be playing top flight European football without getting mercenaries who are simply looking for a payout. Just like the DiMaria fiasco.

By and large, Bastian, Rojo, Schneiderlin, Darmian and perhaps the biggest name Depay have all failed woefully. These guys were purchased by van Gaal himself. Herrera has not covered himself in glory but it can be argued that he has provided some form of consistency over the afore mentioned players. Whomever takes over from van Gaal (if there is a successor in place) needs to decide what to do with these dead woods consuming space, along with under performers like Mata, even the usually reliable Carrick, and Fellaini.

There may be a chance to re-assess the ones who have shown promise like Rashford, Fosu-Mensah, Lingard andMartial.

When you think that United do not have a player who has double-digit goal tally in the league, it makes you wonder how far we've fallen off. Trust me, I've seen United sides from Atkinson, and I can tell you that though we became cup specialists under him, his side still played breath-taking football under him.

My two yuan.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 1:39pm On Apr 17, 2016
@ eastbay, we are all saying d same tin,even lvg's wife knows that he has underperformed,about d club still having a reputation of signing big players,its only mou that can do that for us..giggs wudnt even attract any big name at all..but I don't think schnerderlin has failed oo....but come to think of it,it even seems like martial is regressing d more time he spends listening to lvg
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 2:14pm On Apr 17, 2016
Mehn! This Leicester just wont lose....
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 2:17pm On Apr 17, 2016
dubylhover:
@ eastbay, we are all saying d same tin,even lvg's wife knows that he has underperformed,about d club still having a reputation of signing big players,its only mou that can do that for us..giggs wudnt even attract any big name at all..but I don't think schnerderlin has failed oo....but come to think of it,it even seems like martial is regressing d more time he spends listening to lvg
To be fair to Schneiderlin, he's a box-to-box midfielder deployed as a holding midfielder. He hasn't been able to hold down the midfield as much as we had hoped he would.
I have my reservations about Mourinho. As great as he is he comes with baggage that might come back to haunt us. That isn't to say he isn't qualified.

Martial is still young and has lots of time to improve, if he keeps to the present track he's on right now he will be something else.
For me van Gaal is even inhibiting him playing hide wide left instead of harnessing his pace down the middle.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dongorgon5(m): 2:29pm On Apr 17, 2016
Elxandre:

How dare you place almighty Athletico in the same pedestal with City?

Mangala, Otamendi etc... Lol.
Exactly
I just dey laff when people come out to say mancity will qualify at the expense of madrid, with that shitty defence.
There defence is a disaster.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 2:42pm On Apr 17, 2016
chrisley024:
It will be easier for Madrid if Toure is played in that midfield.

So after many years people now agree with me that Yaya is a liability in City midfield in Europe
Yaya is just an EPL bully
Their 2 games vs PSG they were lucky Yaya missed it else they would have lost
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 3:14pm On Apr 17, 2016
raumdeuter:


So after many years people now agree with me that Yaya is a liability in City midfield in Europe
Yaya is just an EPL bully
Their 2 games vs PSG they were lucky Yaya missed it else they would have lost

The most important thing would be for City to maintain that nando/nandihno pivot....

Me thinks city would need some attacking impetus (especially at the etihad) and Yaya could be the man to provide it. Jesus Navas should start from the bench biko..



..............................Aguero..................................


........Silva...............Yaya.............De Bruyne. .........


.......................Fernando......Fernandihno..............

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