Who talk say abo.ki no get sense.

When do we stop receiving this harsh and reckless treatment from the nass ?

When do we stop receiving this harsh and reckless treatment from the nass ?

superstar1:
It is either the Southern Senators do not attend sessions or they lack the political clout to take on their Northern counterparts.

How on earth will they allow such an injustice to be done to the budget by cutting of funds earmarked for projects in the south, while more funds are either allocated to projects in the north or an entirely new project that was not budgeted for?

Ben Bruce, the twitter senator, should do more of legislative duties than keeping himself busy on twitter.

for ur mind u too sabi things, budget defense is not done on the floor of the house. each committee handles its ministry n the final outcome is being send to the committee on appropriation to work on.
atleast I watch d day the budget was passed, danjuma goje made his prepared speech n read the elaborated details prepared by his committee.

u dont expect the house to deliberate on the elaborated budget when d details was being in the kitchen prepared by jibrin n his cohorts.
it would hv been easy to criticise the senators from south if the day that budget was passed, the were privy to the details.

stop attacking people for d sake of attacking, abi na only ben bruce dey use twitter?
south wastern senators no sabi use twitter?

tuale4u:
Where were South West, South East and South South senators when all these happened:



http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/04/2016-budget-logjam-presidency-uncovers-infractions/

Region at fault per removal:

Lagos-Calabar Rail Removed ......Where was South South and South West and partly South East Senators when this happened

Lagos-Ibadan Exp. Rd Reduced by N24bn -------Where was South West Senators?

Second Niger Bridge Slashed by N3.9 bn ...Where was South East Senators?

Odukpani-Itu-I/Ekpene Rd Reduced by N4.3bn ......Where was South South Senators?

Benin-Sagamu Rd Reduced by N800m ----Where was South South, South East and South West Senators?

Itakpe-Warri Signalling Cut by N302.9m ---Where was South South Senators?

Calabar-Ikom-Obudu Rail N267m---Where was south south senators?

I put 2nd Niger bridge in red because we know how passionate South east people are about 2nd Niger Bridge. For something with that level of passion to be reduced by northern senators without South east senators knowing, Show how incompetent sounthern senators are.

I put Lagos - Ibadan Highway in blue because this road is not important to South west ppl thus they dont need to be passionate over its, at least they love how ppl die everyday on that high way....Cowards will always be cowards....the strength of a chain is in its weakest ring and SW is the weak link in Southern Nigerians chain....

superstar1:
It is either the Southern Senators do not attend sessions or they lack the political clout to take on their Northern counterparts.

How on earth will they allow such an injustice to be done to the budget by cutting of funds earmarked for projects in the south, while more funds are either allocated to projects in the north or an entirely new project that was not budgeted for?

Ben Bruce, the twitter senator, should do more of legislative duties than keeping himself busy on twitter.

this is the change u people voted for while not enjoy the "change" while it last

I am reposting this from another thread, for educational purposes!

1.) Under the principle of "Separation of Powers", only the Executive has the constitutional Power to Write a Budget.
The President shall get its costs for various projects that it wants to do, (from the 'market)', attach such amount to the projects, compile the Budget and PAS IT to the legislature (NASS) for their own role,( below)

2.) The role of the Legislature is to scrutinise the budget in terms of cost (to check Executive abuse of reckless spending). That function is called "Appropriation".

3.) If there is a PROJECT the NASS does not like in the budget, it DOES NOT HAVE THE POWER to REMOVE it!
In fact, the Legislature has no power to ALTER the budget.

But it has one very strong power: It can REFUSE to appropriate money for any PROJECT it does not like.
That PROJECT, by so doing is DEAD!

4.) By not funding a project, the NASS has killed the Project. (literally having same "effect" as removing it)
This is where the Powers of the legislature ends, as far as budgeting is concerned

5.) The NASS does not have the power to ADD or REMOVE ANY PROJECT FROM THE BUDGET.
That is the duty of the Executive Arm of Govt; but it can refuse to fund a Project, any project, in the Budget.

6.) The NASS also does not have the power to "INCREASE or DECREASE FUNDING for a project (from what the Executive has stated).... but it can REFUSE FUNDING COMPLETELY (Note the difference between "changing figure" ......and "putting zero figure", by refusing funding. It can put "zero figure"... but it cant change figure!

Let me make it clearer:
*WRITING, PRESENTING, ADDING / REMOVING PROJECTS TO/IN THE BUDGET => EXECUTIVE ARM OF GOVT (President and Ministers)

* FUNDING ( or NOT FUNDING/ complete removal of fund) for PROJECTS in the Budget => LEGISLATIVE ARM OF GOVT (National Assembly)

You see how both arms of Govt can checkmate each other?
One would write or remove and cost, while the other would decide to fund or not... but cannot write or remove!
That is the beauty of "The principle of Separation of Powers".

Now, if one of the Arms of Govt tries to do its duty and that of another arm of Govt, its action are said to be 'ultra vires', unconstitutional, unlawful, null and void.

So, by adding "PROJECTS" to the Budget presented by the Executive, NASS has over-stepped its boundaries
By Reducing and Adding money (as against outright refusal to appropriate funds in full, as written by the Executive), NASS again has gone beyond its powers.
NASS members know this but their GREED and "business as usual mindset" is not letting them stick to the rules.
Unfortunately, we now have a President who knows the rules and is bent on working by the rules
He being accused of "padding" at the beginning, may be the reason he is sticking to the rules now, aside his own personal integrity
Unfortunately again, most Nigerians dont know the difference/facts and the NASS is trying to manipulate them into thinking Mr. president is just being pig-headed!


- If there is a Project they want approved, they can inform the Executive, who will decide to include it or not
- If there is a project they want to increase its funding, they can INFORM the Executive, who still reserve the right to say "No", we dont want more money for it (or we want more money for it).
- If they cant agree, NASS simply would not approve money for the project at all. That project is "dead" and stands expunged from the budget because there is no money appropriated to execute it, in the budget.

This is the position of the constitution and the Courts, as explained by Constitutional Lawyers at SAN level.

Hope this helps.



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NB: This is not about "prudence or pruning or adding something later".
Its about the "balck and white of the LAW/CONSTITUTION! The Constitution and Law in general, does not pander to such "emotions".
Thats why it symbol is that of a "blind Man" whole Swords and Scales ( Justice and Equity ) .

This country is in serious trouble!

Not because of Power shortage
Not because of insecurity
Not even because of Thieving Politicians


... but because of the DANGEROUSLY-HIGH LEVEL OF ILLITERACY, IGNORANCE AND STEWPIDITY AMONGST THE GENERAL POPULACE.... ESPECIALLY THE YOUNGER ONES!

Despite all the DETAILED EXPLANATIONS about the "PROCESS" of presenting, verifying, appropriation and signing into law of the Budget (as shown on the previous page), a lot of posters here are just unable to grasp the point!

The Word "Trimming" is alien to the Nigerian Budget! NO ONE can TRIM ANYTHING in a Budget proposal.
Each individual PROJECT in the Budget proposal is Either Approved and FUNDED WHOLESALE (By the NASS) or it is NOT FUNDED and thereby Rejected (by the NASS).
The NASS dont have the Power and authority to TRIM or INFLATE COST nor INPUT New Projects not already included by the Executive.

If any project is considered "desirable" by the NASS, it must INFORM the Executive in writing, and explain why it wants the Executive to include the Project. The Executive can ACCEPT or REFUSE to add it to their Budget.
The BUDGET PREPARATION BELONGS "EXCLUSIVELY" TO THE EXECUTIVE ...WHILE THE FUNDING OF SUCH PREPARATION BELONGS "EXCLUSIVELY" TO THE NASS. End of Story!

Why is this simple truth so difficult to understand and comprehend by most Nigerians, especially the younger generation?
Even grown-Up Legislators have come on TV to say rubbish and spew sheer ignorance! Wetin?
You dont have to be a graduate to understand simple things..... or is it the hatred of the Executive Arm of Government that is causing this "brain illness"?

Honestly, l now understand....




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These Northern Senators are Evil... while our Southern Senators are Selfish Cowards! In all, the NASS is made up of Criminals.

superstar1:
It is either the Southern Senators do not attend sessions or they lack the political clout to take on their Northern counterparts.

How on earth will they allow such an injustice to be done to the budget by cutting of funds earmarked for projects in the south, while more funds are either allocated to projects in the north or an entirely new project that was not budgeted for?

Ben Bruce, the twitter senator, should do more of legislative duties than keeping himself busy on twitter.

You see thats the problem SW always have.....SW is APC dominated zone yet they want SE and SS PDP dominated zone to fight the Injustices their APC brothers from the North meted on them .....SHAME on South West Senators and their Gullible followers like superstar1 and Aresa.....

[color=#000099][/color]so annoying to know that the National Assembly are not representing the masses that means the Nigerian problem lies with the our so call senators may God come to our rescue

kuuljay:
They were busy shouting that the budget is dead on arrival because of the hate they had for buhari while the ever smart gworo-chewing aboky was busy doing the business underground, I comot cap for aboky

Imagine begging when they claim is not in d budget.

AwiLand:


I put Lagos - Ibadan Highway in blue because this road is not important to South west ppl thus they dont need to be passionate over its, at least they love how ppl die everyday on that high way....Cowards will always be cowards....the strength of a chain is in its weakest ring and SW is the weak link in Southern Nigerians chain....

SW?, is d link to most Part of Nigeria to Lagos even from Benin Republic, Togo, Ghana and beyond.

yaki84:




for ur mind u too sabi things, budget defense is not done on the floor of the house. each committee handles its ministry n the final outcome is being send to the committee on appropriation to work on.
atleast I watch d day the budget was passed, danjuma goje made his prepared speech n read the elaborated details prepared by his committee.

u dont expect the house to deliberate on the elaborated budget when d details was being in the kitchen prepared by jibrin n his cohorts.
it would hv been easy to criticise the senators from south if the day that budget was passed, the were privy to the details.

stop attacking people for d sake of attacking, abi na only ben bruce dey use twitter?
south wastern senators no sabi use twitter?

Please educate me. Is there anything stopping the presidency from releasing the budget proposal to the public after submitting to the NASS? If not, I think that's the way to go next year. Everything should be done in the open to cut out the possibilities of these shady stunts.

Controversialad:
Story story

Story story especially that Nation, Premium Times, Punch and Sahara media na dem carry am. Buffoon!

emorse:


Please educate me. Is there anything stopping the presidency from releasing the budget proposal to the public after submitting to the NASS? If not, I think that's the way to go next year. Everything should be done in the open to cut out the possibilities of these shady stunts.

You hit the mace on the head!

yaki84:




for ur mind u too sabi things, budget defense is not done on the floor of the house. each committee handles its ministry n the final outcome is being send to the committee on appropriation to work on.
atleast I watch d day the budget was passed, danjuma goje made his prepared speech n read the elaborated details prepared by his committee.

u dont expect the house to deliberate on the elaborated budget when d details was being in the kitchen prepared by jibrin n his cohorts.
it would hv been easy to criticise the senators from south if the day that budget was passed, the were privy to the details.

stop attacking people for d sake of attacking, abi na only ben bruce dey use twitter?
south wastern senators no sabi use twitter?

You too will credit yourself for coming up with this shallow response.

In one sentence, are there no southern senators in the committees?

AwiLand:


You see thats the problem SW always have.....SW is APC dominated zone yet they want SE and SS PDP dominated zone to fight the Injustices their APC brothers from the North meted on them .....SHAME on South West Senators and their Gullible followers like superstar1 and Aresa.....

The projects that were either expunged or allocated amount reduced are only in SW? I shake my a55 for you.

I never knew the 2nd NB is in SW, likewise Itakpe-Warri road and Calabar-Ikom-Obudu road.

Mind you, I do not give a hoot about any party.

ireneony:
this is the change u people voted for while not enjoy the "change" while it last

I will vote and re-vote Change over and over again, instead of thumb printing stealing is not corruption or trans-deformation/trans-corruption agenda.

superstar1:


You too will credit yourself for coming up with this shallow response.

In one sentence, are there no southern senators in the committees?

Ask them. Where's Ekweremadu who has been singing of daily provocation of Igbos and yet couldn't point out significant thing he and his cohort have achieved - I am not talking of sharing of grinding machine and ogogoro o.

ricsman:
beg?
op why did u add already known fact with the this headline.

Journalism is part of our problem here.

Is it a crime or is it against the ethics of journalism?

AwiLand:


You see thats the problem SW always have.....SW is APC dominated zone yet they want SE and SS PDP dominated zone to fight the Injustices their APC brothers from the North meted on them .....SHAME on South West Senators and their Gullible followers like superstar1 and Aresa.....

You mean it is the South West Senators that are supposed to fight for the 2nd Niger Bridge?
What then is the South East Senators suppose to fight for? ...just Biafra, right?

Stop all these divisive tactics, between the East and West!
It is what got us where we are today! Hatred for Yorubas is killing you softly

You will never see the North East fighting the North West or Central.
That is why they can get ahead more than us.
think about it for a minute



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farem:


Ask them. Where's Ekweremadu who has been singing of daily provocation of Igbos and yet couldn't point out significant thing he and his cohort have achieved - I am not talking of sharing of grinding machine and ogogoro o.

Thank you bro.

AwiLand:


You see thats the problem SW always have.....SW is APC dominated zone yet they want SE and SS PDP dominated zone to fight the Injustices their APC brothers from the North meted on them .....SHAME on South West Senators and their Gullible followers like superstar1 and Aresa.....

Blaming the SW cannot exonerate the SS and SE. Let's us put our house in order and hope that others will follow suit. We can't continue defending people who do not have our interest at heart (I'm assuming you're not a "polithiefian" ) or in the end, we'll realise that tribal bigotry amongst us will only favour the ruling class and we will remain worse off for it.

yaki84:



take time n read then correct urself.

u no dey understand say jibrin n his colleagues in d committee acted with impunity?
even some mebers of the committee were not privy to the final details of the bill.
stop all these blames abeg, e no mek sense again.

u no read as saraki dey beg southern senators for the numerous ommission?

would he have begged them if they willingly ignore or sold their conscience because of the hatred they hv for apc?

abi u no get brains to reason again.

what's their usefulness then if they could be shortchanged this much by their fellow lawmakers?

tuale4u:


I put 2nd Niger bridge in red because we know how passionate South east people are about 2nd Niger Bridge. For something with that level of passion to be reduced by northern senators without South east senators knowing, Show how incompetent sounthern senators are.

Well, SE folks are less concerned about this bridge and as we've seen on NL, they claimed PMB canceled the bridge when in fact PMB budgeted for the bridge to be built. This is how they ill informed themselves because of hatred, bigotry and upside down politics.

They are still busy attacking the President, calling him incompetent because he did not include these projects in the original budget when in fact he did.

We heard Fashiola stating categorically that the 2nd NB is one of the priority projects they budgeted for and must build..
When you look out for them, they hate you, when you deny and deprive them, they love you and call you their hero and role model..


Talk about a very twisted society...

emorse:


Please educate me. Is there anything stopping the presidency from releasing the budget proposal to the public after submitting to the NASS? If not, I think that's the way to go next year. Everything should be done in the open to cut out the possibilities of these shady stunts.

You are right though... but that is not how the Constitution operates (as of today).
if the President acts out of Constitutional means, he may be just setting himself up, for impeachment.
You know this President has a lot of "Foxes" waiting to devour him at the slightest opportunity!

Having said that, the "Document" sent to the Senate, and sent back to the President, is not yet a Budget, until it is signed into law by the President, hence releasing it to the public at this point, is unconstitutional.

Again, you would have read where the Senators were blaming the Executive of "making the public hate them"!
To put the Document they sent to the President for signature..... in the public domain, without signing it into law first, will give ammunition to such baseless accusations

Going forward, l agree with you but will further suggest that Govt should have a "Budget website" where each passing back-and-forte is published on such website. that way, no one can accuse the other of playing to the gallery.

Nigerian "Poli-thief-cians" are a dubious set of people.



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Gayigaskia:



Why you left this one out?

expunged Kano-Damaturu-Ngala Rail N260m cut

1. Because the amount is small compared the rest in southern Nigeria
2. Because most of the billions added to then North more than cover that 260Million more than twenty times.
3. I am from South South and southern Nigeria in general. Majority of the cut is from the South. That Kano cut was to deceive us.

Too little too late.

feeloscar:
Is it a crime or is it against the ethics of journalism?

reporting a different topic
misleading headlines
padding info..... may likely be!

superstar1:


I will vote and re-vote Change over and over again, instead of thumb printing stealing is not corruption or trans-deformation/trans-corruption agenda.

Tell them ooo, maybe na trans-gender. F00lish people.

tuale4u:
Where were South West, South East and South South senators when all these happened:



http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/04/2016-budget-logjam-presidency-uncovers-infractions/

Region at fault per removal:

Lagos-Calabar Rail Removed ......Where was South South and South West and partly South East Senators when this happened

Lagos-Ibadan Exp. Rd Reduced by N24bn -------Where was South West Senators?

Second Niger Bridge Slashed by N3.9 bn ...Where was South East Senators?

Odukpani-Itu-I/Ekpene Rd Reduced by N4.3bn ......Where was South South Senators?

Benin-Sagamu Rd Reduced by N800m ----Where was South South, South East and South West Senators?

Itakpe-Warri Signalling Cut by N302.9m ---Where was South South Senators?

Calabar-Ikom-Obudu Rail N267m---Where was south south senators?

I put 2nd Niger bridge in red because we know how passionate South east people are about 2nd Niger Bridge. For something with that level of passion to be reduced by northern senators without South east senators knowing, Show how incompetent sounthern senators are.

this budget as open the intellectual capability of our senator from south west to south south and south east. Let me mention those senator that are to be blame more.
1 senator gershom bassey cross river south,

2 senator john ewan enoh

3 senator olamilekan
4 senator remi tinubu
5 senator gbenga ashafa.





I don't blame the north but i blamed others senator for looking the other way




and it pains me that senator gershom bassey is silent knowing fully where he is from that zone. How i wish senator prince bassey otu won.


Note am not from cross river but i know the good those project will do to the lives of crossiverians.

TANTUMERGO007:
SARAKI is indeed a peace-maker






we need more 'sarakis' in this country, to help us move this country forward

Thanks for giving me the joke of the day , no be only peacemaker, na shoemaker

aresa:





Well, SE folks are less concerned about this bridge and as we've seen on NL, they claimed PMB canceled the bridge when in fact PMB budgeted for the bridge to be built. This is how they ill informed themselves because of hatred, bigotry and upside down politics.

They are still busy attacking the President, calling him incompetent because he did not include these projects in the original budget when in fact he did.

We heard Fashiola stating categorically that the 2nd NB is one of the priority projects they budgeted for and must build..
When you look out for them, they hate you, when you deny and deprive them, they love you and call you their hero and role model..


Talk about a very twisted society...

its all about 2019 bruv, any ongoing project in the ss and se, completed or not by 2019 by an APC led FG will spell disaster for the pdp, even the pdp senators there will find it difficult to win back their seats in 2019. This is what the fuss is all about. Reason they are attacking the China deal left, right and centre. A very destructive political party I must say.