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Salvation Or Abusive Blackmail by johnydon22(m): 8:20pm On Apr 18, 2016 |
Mary let out a frustrated sigh as she stepped into her room, her feet aches from the shoes that was barely her size, her heads were throbbing and dry sweats stuck on her fading make-up. "How could he say that to me?" "Does he really love me then why does he have to threaten me?" She cursed under her breathe dumping her weight on the bed and her thoughts wandered to the event that just transpired between her and Josh, she could still recall vividly. Mary has been dating Josh for as long as she could remember or at least she thought so, he was a handsome tall young man with a charming smile, intelligent and smart and was sweet. They had been childhood sweethearts all through primary and secondary school and now in the University their relationship flourished and bloomed. Until she started noticing gradual change in Josh, he got angry easily these days and sometimes would attempt slapping her out of anger, Josh who usually opened the door for her now went ahead without looking back, he even blamed her when one of his friends slapped her. In short their relationship can simply be defined now as 'a one sided romance' she knew she had to end it for her own good but how will she go about it. She had managed to summon enough courage today, called Josh and informed him of her visit. Josh's face grew blank and red as Mary rented her grievances and told him she wanted a break from the relationship. She could notice his face twitch and his eyes dimmed and lost it's sparkle. it was hard to place what he really was feeling but she dreaded every second of that moment. Then Josh spoke, his voice was calm and mild at the same time oozed with every ounce of seriousness. "Mary i love you so much, i am madly in love with you mary don't leave me because i love you and don't want you to go" He said holding her shoulders "I know Josh but i just need...." "You just need what Mary?" He cut her short "Let me tell you something Mary, if you leave me i will take away everything you hold dear and will surely kill you myself. If you stay with me i'll save you and you will be safe because i assure you no harm will come to you from me but if you go on with this your act of rebellion i will make your existence a horrible one, don't you see i love you mary?" He sighs "It's either you stay with me and love me like i love you or it will turn out ugly" his eyes were cold and she could feel his heart beat freeze. A chilly cold ran down her spine, she wants to opt out of this relationship but apparently if she did, her life is on the line. she certainly have no choice here. "How could Josh be this cold, abusive and a cheap blackmailer to get love?" she asked. * * * * Everyone who reads the above story can agree Mary is being abused here by a very dangerous boy friend who is blackmailing her into loving him or she gets murdered. As bad as this is, this is done globally in a large scale and nobody is seeing anything wrong in that profession of blackmail, act of abuse and show of tyranny. More than 4 billion people are under the umbrella of such situation in the name of one religious belief or the other. Almost all the popular world religions boast of a setting where there is a God who loves humanity so much, needs man to conform to his will and love him back, worship him, revere him and be in a one sided relationship with him or He burns them in hell for eternity for choosing to become his enemy by not loving back or conforming obediently to his will. Is there any difference between Mary's situation and that these religion has dipped their followers in? I say "No" Both are abusive, tyrannic, barbaric, sadistic and a petty show of cheap blackmail.. If the basis of your religion is roped around a God who is offering you salvation from his own torture schemes, Is it really really salvation or blackmail? Is the issue of threat in order to instill conformity to a reciprocation of love really anything near love or just an emotional rape? Why are the concept of God peddled by these religions subject to such petty tyranny, sadism, abuse and prone to cheap blackmail? Free choice is not roped with options, when a choice roped within options it is no longer an exercise of free choice but a limited right on what to choose. If the person offering you salvation is the same person threatening you then it is not salvation, it is an emotional genocide and abuse of an individual's choices.. We have heard reasons from the victims of these religions and their excuses for succumbing to such barbarism in the name of a religious doctrine always rings. "It is better to believe and be on the safe side than disbelief and risk that torture" This affirms that the basis of religion isn't really certainty in the actuality of their distinct deities, not Faith as an exercise of this uncertainty but rather fear of the abstract concepts of a torture chamber or the unknown and greed for a blissful paradise. That fear drives the faith and ensures the stoic clutch to uncertainty. I have always wondered how such God concepts also claim perfection and omni-everything but still acts with so much childishness and insecurity that even humans cannot stoop that low. How can there be a perfect God who resorts to cheap blackmail to ensure conformity and still claims a profession of love, that is an insult to the human idea of what Love is or should be. Now the most unjust part of this setting is that, the victims are always blamed for the actions of the perpetrator. You get excuses like "God doesn't send you to hell your rebellion does" that is what i call an unparalleled show of unstable wits and pitiful Stockholm syndrome. Just like the above story, if mary goes ahead and break up with Josh, Josh kills her and then says he wasn't the one that killed mary but rather mary killed herself by deciding to quite their relationship even when he told her that would cost her life. It is inherently absurd but such abhorrence found in many religious doctrines are rather seen as a moral position, that is one demeaning and dangerous thing about these beliefs. It ensures the glorification of such absurdity and respect of such unparalleled abhorrence With just a little knowledge of what Love no human would ever regard such sinister blackmail to be love, Love is not violence and hate, obedience conformity or forceful, threat or ruin and neither is it bloody. With all said and all known, it is not wrong to admit there are billions of victims of this punny blackmail and abuse but it is always OK when the abuser is claimed to be an alleged universal judiciary. This is what to mull over, if there is this threat of torture and wrathful violence roped around the concept of God your religion reveres and this also comes with an offer of salvation and love from the wrath and torture schemes of the same God. Ask yourself Is this really salvation or abusive blackmail.. 20 Likes 10 Shares |
Re: Salvation Or Abusive Blackmail by Nobody: 8:40pm On Apr 18, 2016 |
@op. It seems you lack the holy spirit. Earnestly pray for wisdom. You are almost 30 for christ's sake! 1 Like |
Re: Salvation Or Abusive Blackmail by johnydon22(m): 8:46pm On Apr 18, 2016 |
timonski:Hahahahahahaha Funny how people still use this old boring outdated preposterous line for an excuse, i am my Grand father's mate for Christ's sake!!! 7 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Salvation Or Abusive Blackmail by freecocoa(f): 8:51pm On Apr 18, 2016 |
It's sad though, but since many people don't want to reason, let them continue. We are praying for them. ![]() 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Salvation Or Abusive Blackmail by ayoku777(m): 9:16pm On Apr 18, 2016 |
Matthew 25v41 -Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, PREPARED FOR THE DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS: Can you see? Hell was never made for man; hell was prepared for the devil and his angels. But those who follow him will end up where he is headed. If you tell your friend or loved one, don't road-trip with that guy, he is going to drive his car down a cliff, if you follow him that will be your fate; are you threatening your friend or telling him the truth? Is that threat or truth? The devil is the first sinner, he is the first person to use his freewill to turn his back on God and rebel against Him. To turn your back on God is to road-trip with the devil. If God tells you that if you turn your back on His love and His salvation, then you're road-tripping with the devil and will end up where he is headed -which is hell. How is that emotional blackmail? It is only truth! Hell was not made for man, it was made for Lucifer and his angels. But those who follow him will end up where he is headed. And making that clear to people is not emotional blackmail or threat, but truth. Telling people where the bus they're boarding is headed is not blackmail and telling people the destination of the person they're road-tripping with is not threat. It is truth in love. I would want to know. Shalom 8 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Salvation Or Abusive Blackmail by Nobody: 9:17pm On Apr 18, 2016 |
timonski:you are high on on ogogoro and oshogbo weed ,only then can you spit trash out of that soak away mouth of yours |
Re: Salvation Or Abusive Blackmail by Nobody: 9:18pm On Apr 18, 2016 |
ayoku777:another rubbish ,don't you read before commenting,didn't your saviour also go to hell as claimed by your pastors |
Re: Salvation Or Abusive Blackmail by ayoku777(m): 9:25pm On Apr 18, 2016 |
stephenmorris: Yes, He did. And what about that? Do you have a question? |
Re: Salvation Or Abusive Blackmail by johnydon22(m): 10:55pm On Apr 18, 2016 |
ayoku777: If the person offering you salvation is the same person threatening you then it is not salvation, it is an emotional genocide and abuse of an individual's choices.. Telling people that the bus there are boarding will explode while still you rigged the bus with the explosions is blackmail and cheap abuse. it is outrightly nonsensical set up to give people two nonsensical choices of either love you or become your enemy to be burnt. . It is not only petty, it is childish, punny and a mark of chronic egoism. Just like the above story, if mary goes ahead and break up with Josh, Josh kills her and then says he wasn't the one that killed mary but rather mary killed herself by deciding to quite their relationship even when he told her that would cost her life. It is inherently absurd but such abhorrence found in many religious doctrines are rather seen as a moral position, that is one demeaning and dangerous thing about these beliefs. It ensures the glorification of such absurdity and respect of such unparalleled abhorrence. Classical example!!! 7 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Salvation Or Abusive Blackmail by malvisguy212: 11:27pm On Apr 18, 2016 |
ayoku777:bro, you have time to reply the op. The word "HELL" is given the atheist a sleepless night. |
Re: Salvation Or Abusive Blackmail by urahara(m): 11:34pm On Apr 18, 2016 |
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Re: Salvation Or Abusive Blackmail by johnydon22(m): 11:35pm On Apr 18, 2016 |
malvisguy212: No atheist ever looses sleep over something as childish as HELL otherwise he/she won't be atheistic. Believe it or not we are only trying to help whimps like you who can't on their own break away from the grips of some nonsensical belief.. You should be "thanking them" for doing what you have no courage to 8 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Salvation Or Abusive Blackmail by malvisguy212: 12:08am On Apr 19, 2016 |
johnydon22:open a thread with the title "hell". You will read insultive comment from atheist. What does it imply ? Telling someone not to smoke or he will die young, is its a threat or warning ? |
Re: Salvation Or Abusive Blackmail by malvisguy212: 12:10am On Apr 19, 2016 |
Like it or not, HELL EXIST and its is the home of the rebellions, the wicked and sinful men. |
Re: Salvation Or Abusive Blackmail by johnydon22(m): 12:13am On Apr 19, 2016 |
malvisguy212:There are trying to salvage the little part of humanity left in a mind that harbours such a demeaning barbarity, it's for your own good so you should be thanking them. Here is a more likely scenario "Let me tell you something Mary, if you leave me i will take away everything you hold dear and will surely kill you myself. If you stay with me i'll save you and you will be safe because i assure you no harm will come to you from me but if you go on with this your act of rebellion i will make your existence a horrible one, don't you see i love you mary?" He sighs "It's either you stay with me and love me like i love you or it will turn out ugly" 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Salvation Or Abusive Blackmail by johnydon22(m): 12:16am On Apr 19, 2016 |
malvisguy212: as usual the point is lost to you because you never read before commenting, here is the point johnydon22: Not whether some mythical Hell exists or not, we have thousands of hell from different God concepts.. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Salvation Or Abusive Blackmail by malvisguy212: 12:20am On Apr 19, 2016 |
johnydon22:That is your opinion, your way of thinking. Staying with jesus , your salvation is secure. Living Him, mean you want to earn your salvation through your effort. Jesus the Christ, describes the two roads open to men. One is a straight, narrow pathway leading to God and eternal life. The other is a broad and easy road leading to final destruction. On this broad road are many travelers, enjoying the fellowship of their comrades and thinking little about their destination. |
Re: Salvation Or Abusive Blackmail by malvisguy212: 12:26am On Apr 19, 2016 |
johnydon22:NO. The op is your opinion. After judgment what next ? |
Re: Salvation Or Abusive Blackmail by malvisguy212: 12:28am On Apr 19, 2016 |
"Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else." (Isaiah 45:22) |
Re: Salvation Or Abusive Blackmail by johnydon22(m): 12:33am On Apr 19, 2016 |
malvisguy212: If the person offering you salvation is the same person threatening you then it is not salvation, it is an emotional genocide and abuse of an individual's choices.. Carry on 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Salvation Or Abusive Blackmail by johnydon22(m): 12:34am On Apr 19, 2016 |
We also waiting for followers of other religions to come defend their doctrines |
Re: Salvation Or Abusive Blackmail by malvisguy212: 12:39am On Apr 19, 2016 |
johnydon22:So telling someone, don't smoke or you will die young, mean I am threatening him with death ? Alright. Goodluck. |
Re: Salvation Or Abusive Blackmail by malvisguy212: 12:44am On Apr 19, 2016 |
johnydon22:there is absolutely NOTHING to defend here. You misunderstood salvation. I hope bro joe is reading this trash. |
Re: Salvation Or Abusive Blackmail by malvisguy212: 12:51am On Apr 19, 2016 |
Everyday we see this kind of people on the internet writing nonsense, something they have no knowledge of. but hardly you meet them face to face. Salvation is BIGGER than your imagination son. |
Re: Salvation Or Abusive Blackmail by johnydon22(m): 12:57am On Apr 19, 2016 |
malvisguy212:Telling someone to either love you or die is a threat, a blackmail, abuse and for a human to uphold such lunacy is demeaning to human nature. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Salvation Or Abusive Blackmail by malvisguy212: 1:02am On Apr 19, 2016 |
johnydon22:give me biblical reference of this your accusation. |
Re: Salvation Or Abusive Blackmail by johnydon22(m): 1:04am On Apr 19, 2016 |
malvisguy212: malvisguy212:then why are you whinning all over the thread if not trying to defend your mor0nic beliefs, the truth hits the spot doesn't it ![]() Everyone who reads the above story can agree Mary is being abused here by a very dangerous boy friend who is blackmailing her into loving him or she gets murdered. As bad as this is, this is done globally in a large scale and nobody is seeing anything wrong in that profession of blackmail, act of abuse and show of tyranny. More than 4 billion people are under the umbrella of such situation in the name of one religious belief or the other. Classic case of Stockholm syndrome, we understand ... ![]() Without the long whip of sceptic criticism, religions would weigh the world down a sorry state. We whip you lot into line We are waiting for other religions to come defend theirs too before you deluded lot make it about your faith then conclude you are being attacked.. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Salvation Or Abusive Blackmail by johnydon22(m): 1:06am On Apr 19, 2016 |
malvisguy212: Ooh i am way above regurgitating over some nonsensical book, i am well above that.. The OP was about all religions with such doctrines but the insecurities in yours weighs so much on you that you are trying to make it about yours. Lets keep the thread General rather its about all not one... so what ever you don't get then read the OP again if it doesn't hit your religion where it hurts then you have no business with it.. ![]() we understand the vulnerability of your religion that posts like this is a threat to it, i don't apologize for it ![]() the truth will never cease to hurt and will never cease to be spoken 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Salvation Or Abusive Blackmail by malvisguy212: 1:17am On Apr 19, 2016 |
johnydon22:silly, were did you get the story of mary and joseph ? Is it not from the same bible you are claiming to big to read ? Smh |
Re: Salvation Or Abusive Blackmail by malvisguy212: 1:20am On Apr 19, 2016 |
johnydon22:yes according to the op, mary is being abuse. BUT what does the BIBLE really say ? |
Re: Salvation Or Abusive Blackmail by johnydon22(m): 1:23am On Apr 19, 2016 |
malvisguy212: Bros it's Mary and Josh not Joseph ![]() Mary has been dating Josh for as long as she could remember or at least ![]() ![]() Now it's obvious you can't read, who is the stupi_d one here.. it is so obvious ![]() 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Salvation Or Abusive Blackmail by johnydon22(m): 1:26am On Apr 19, 2016 |
malvisguy212: I doubt if you can read at all. . . Please mine is to write not to read it for people or comprehend it for them. If you don't understand the OP read it as many times as possible.. it's obvious your beliefs are vulnerable that a post that addresses majority of religions weighs more concern on you. No apologies there 1 Like 1 Share |
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