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Muhammad And The Bible by abdulmalik1988(m): 8:10am On Apr 19, 2016 |
If you ask an average Christian, ” What does the Bible say about Muhammad (p)?” He or she will reply ” Nothing!”. Yes! You don’t need to argue, because modern days Bibles are mostly written in English language; the name Muhammad (p) can therefore never be found in any of the Biblical verses, so you can’t blame an average Christian for giving you such reply. Although, it will become so amazing, that Bible contains no single information about Muhammad (p) as claimed by Christians, a Book that spoke about the past and future events, did not remember to say a word about a man who spoke well of Jesus (p) ? A man who brought a world wide community of millions of believers ( Muslims) to believe on his authority in: 1. Righteousness of Jesus (p) - Qur’an 6:85 2. Miraculous birth of Jesus (p) – Qur’an 3 : 45 – 47, 19 : 22 – 33 3. The miracle of Jesus ( p ) as permitted by Allah (AW) – Qur’an 5 : 113 – 114. No! No! No! The Holy Bible must have said something about Muhammad ( p ). Like so, Jesus is not mentioned by name Every adult Christian believes that, if not hundreds, there are thousands of prophecies about the coming of the Messiah, in the old testaments. However, in all of these thousands of prophecies, non is Jesus Christ mentioned by name. If there is any, I need somebody to present it here, in the commentary. Christ is a title derived from the word ‘ Messiah’ meaning the anointed. What Criteria can you use to justify, that the prophecies in the old testaments refer to Jesus (p)? Can you deduct – philosophize to justify that? Though, deduction comes with lots of errors? Prophecy If you are asked, “What is prophecy?”. What would be your answer? According to Oxford dictionary, 7th edition ” Prophecy is a statement that something will happen in the future, especially one made by somebody with religious or magic power”.Thank God, the prophecies of the old testaments were made by men of religion like Moses, Isaiah, etc., therefore we are expected to see exactly; the physical and spiritual picture of the prophecies, as they were fulfilled. Let us read this verse together, Deuteronomy 18 v 18 ” I shall raise them up a prophet, from among their brethren, like unto thee, and I shall put my words in his mouth and he shall speak to them, all I shall command him”. To whom do you think the verse ( Deuteronomy 18 v 18 ) refers? If you asked an average Christian, “To whom does this prophecy refer?” He or she, without hesitation will reply- Jesus Christ (p); without any evidence. If every prophecy can be identified upon deduction, without facts and truths then we Muslims, also have the rights to adopt same method and say ” The Biblical prophecies about the coming prophet is for Prophet Muhammad (p), however we won’t do so for it is not necessary. The great dialgue One of our comparative fathers, Ahmad H. Deedat (RH) , one day was in a dialogue with a head of the Christians then in South Africa. The dialogue was about this very verse ( Deuteronomy 18 v 18 ). Sheik Deedat asked the head of the Christians whom he addressed as dominee, ” To whom does this prophecy refer?” Without the slightest hesitation, he answered ‘ Jesus’! Sheik asked why Jesus, his name is not mentioned here? The dominee replied ” Since prophecies are words or pictures of of something that is going to happen in the future, we find that the wordings of this verse adequately describe him (Jesus). You see, the most important words of this prophecy are ” Like unto thee”- Like you- Like Moses and Jesus is like Moses”. Let us leave Sheik with the dominee for now, so that he may do the justice. Sheik Deedat’s own words ” I questioned him: In which way is Jesus like moses? The answer was: ” In the first place, Moses was a Jew and Jesus was also a Jew; secondly, Moses was a Prophet and Jesus was also a Prophet – therefore Jesus is like Moses and that is exactly what God has foretold Moses. ” Can you think of any other similarities between Moses and Jesus?” I asked. The Dominee said that he could not think of any. I replied: “If these are the only two criteria for discovering a candidate for this prophecy of Deuteronomy 18 v 18, then in that case, these criteria could fit any of the following Biblical personages after Moses – Solomon, Isaiah,Ezekiel, Hosea,Joel, Malachi, John the Baptist, etc, because they were all Jew and Prophets. Why should we not apply this prophecy to any one of these Prophets and why only to Jesus? Why should we make fish of one and fowl of another? The dominee had no reply. I continued. ” You see, my conclusions are that Jesus is most unlike Moses, and if I am wrong I would like you to correct me. The Three light evidences that Jesus is most unlike Moses Now, let me come in, so that Sheik Deedat (RA) would go back and rest in sha Allah in the mercy of his Lord for the moment. 1. Jesus is not like Moses, because according to the majority of Christians, Jesus is God, however Moses is not god; thus Jesus is not like Moses. 2. According to Christians, Jesus died on the cross, for the sins of the world, but Moses did not have to die for the sins of the world. 3. According to the Christians, Jesus went to Hell fire and spent three days, but Moses did not have to; how alike are they? Watch out for the part two! |
Re: Muhammad And The Bible by thorpido(m): 8:32am On Apr 19, 2016 |
Dey there dey decieve yourself. Mohammed is not mentioned in the bible because he was not a prophet sent by the Christian God,the One Who sent Jesus.All prophets came BEFORE jesus and Jesus was the seal of the prophets.His coming brought an end to the coming of the prophets because He came to deliver something no prophet could give which is eternal life.Eternal life made available means there was no need for any prophet again.He can't give anything greater than eternal life which of course he did not have. Muhammed is the only prophet of Allah.(I know all that story of Allah being the Arabic word for God and all that.Allah however is not the One Who sent Jesus).That muhammed started a religion that has many followers means nothing.Buddha also did the same and Hindu has many followers. The prophecy about God sending another Prophet after the kind of Moses spoke about Jesus.The prophecy says God will raise one from among your brethren. [/b ] There are 12 tribes of Israel and 'your brethren' spoken of there means from another of those 12tribes.Jesus came through the tribe of Judah.Mohammed [b]DIDN'T come from the tribes of Israel. Your quran says Jesus was a prophet so the 'prophet' spoken of was Jesus.He was a Prophet and Messaih. I know you guys have to twist so many things to give yourself credibility.Even quote the bible you say is false as evidence. Again I say,dey dia dey deceive unaself. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Muhammad And The Bible by ZKOSOSO(m): 8:51am On Apr 19, 2016 |
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Re: Muhammad And The Bible by Medicis(m): 8:58am On Apr 19, 2016 |
Deuteronomy 34:10-12 New International Version (NIV) Since then, no prophet has risen in Israel like Moses, whom the Lord knew FACE TO FACE , who did all those SIGNS AND WONDERS the Lord sent him to do in Egypt—to Pharaoh and to all his officials and to his whole land. For no one has ever shown the MIGHTY POWERS or performed the AWESOME DEEDS that Moses did in the sight of all Israel. These are the xtics of a prophet like unto Moses. Mohammed, clearly did not even have one of these. Keep deceiving yourself... 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Muhammad And The Bible by abdulmalik1988(m): 10:58am On Apr 19, 2016 |
Thorpido, if I agree with you that Jesus is a prophet ( truly he is, but christians don't agree) for argument sake; How come you can't provide genuine evidence that Jesus is like Moses? From their brethren; Ismael and Israel are brothers from the same father, therefore their children are brethren to one and another. Can you point out the miraculous similarities, between Jesus and Moses? |
Re: Muhammad And The Bible by abdulmalik1988(m): 11:00am On Apr 19, 2016 |
I am ready to give you eight strong evidences that Jesus is not like Moses. |
Re: Muhammad And The Bible by thorpido(m): 12:39pm On Apr 19, 2016 |
abdulmalik1988:Matthew 11:9 ,Jesus said what did you go out to see,a prophet?Yes and more than a prophet! No Christian will not agree Jesus was not a prophet but He was MORE than a prophet.He said it with His own mouth and that is what muslims don't accept.Jesus is also Lord! Ishmael and Israel were children of the same father but never shared that 'brotherhood' at any point in time.You can bring out the quoran to show me otherwise.The 'brethren' here are the tribes(descendants) of Israel,no need to twist it. There are many similarities between Moses and Jesus.Just search yourself.Don't have the time now. |
Re: Muhammad And The Bible by jcross19: 1:07pm On Apr 19, 2016 |
abdulmalik1988:the sons of your uncle are your brothers right?. |
Re: Muhammad And The Bible by Lolatunbosun(m): 4:00pm On Apr 19, 2016 |
Never dialogue Bible stuff with Muslims because they never have Holy Spirit so they only interpret Bible literarily. Moses typified Jesus Christ and everything that happened in the wilderness was a shadow of the real manifestation through Christ. Moses was a deliverer for the children of Israelites while Jesus is a deliverer for the whole world. Besides, is it by force to recognise Mohammed? Bible does not recognise any anti-Christ and there is no any preaching from muslims that will make the Christian to accept anything outside the Bible. Everything in the Bible pointed to Jesus Christ. Period 1 Like |
Re: Muhammad And The Bible by annunaki2(m): 7:30pm On Apr 19, 2016 |
The only place in the bible that mohammed was mentioned was when Jesus warned of false prophets that will come after him and how we can identify them by their fruits. Now we know the fruits of mohammed as been sorrow, tears and blood for the last 1,400 years so we know know clearly that he is a 100% false prophet. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Muhammad And The Bible by abdulmalik1988(m): 7:00am On Apr 20, 2016 |
Despite your evidences are illogical and confusing to yourselves, I will still find the patience to educate you more about your Bible; which you understand not. In the first place, there is no where it is written in the Bible that you need holy ghost to understand it. God is not the author of confusion ( 1Cor14:33). The words of Jesus, and God in the Bible are always clear and simple. It is the verses written by those unknown authors and other humans in the Bible that come with confusion. |
Re: Muhammad And The Bible by abdulmalik1988(m): 7:09am On Apr 20, 2016 |
In fact the person to come is not holy ghost, but Muhammad (p) holy ghost need not to come according to Jesus himself, perhaps you don't read your Bible. Read: ...If I go not away, the comforter will not come unto you, but if I depart, I will send him unto you: John 16:7. You should know that Jesus is not referring to Holy ghost, because Holy ghost has been coming before Jesus: Luke 1:15, Luke 1:41, Luke 1:67. After his birth: Luke 3:22. It is nonsense to say he will send holy ghost who is already with him and his people. Think! |
Re: Muhammad And The Bible by Scholar8200(m): 7:23am On Apr 20, 2016 |
abdulmalik1988:Jesus said 14:26But the Comforter,which isthe Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. John 14:26 Paul who you also quoted said: 2:10But God hath revealedthemunto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. 2:11For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. 1 Corinth 2:8,9 It is WRONG to speak so authoritatively of something you know so little about. Per ypur Op, pls show me where Jesus was referring when He said: 46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. 47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words? John 5:45,46 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Muhammad And The Bible by abdulmalik1988(m): 7:24am On Apr 20, 2016 |
You say Ismael did not share brotherhood with Israel, is that your credibility to justify that they are not brethren? If they don't share brotherhood together, thank God they share fatherhood together, and that is the most important thing. Your criteria that Jesus is the prophet to come has been demolished in the main post itself, read it over and over. |
Re: Muhammad And The Bible by abdulmalik1988(m): 7:28am On Apr 20, 2016 |
You said Ismael did not share brotherhood with Israel, is that your credibility to justify that they are not brethren? If they don't share brotherhood together, thank God they share fatherhood together, and that is the most important thing. Your criteria that Jesus is the prophet to come has been demolished in the main post itself, read it over and over. |
Re: Muhammad And The Bible by abdulmalik1988(m): 7:35am On Apr 20, 2016 |
It is quite unfortunate that you will not be able to provide a single similarity between the miracle of Jesus, and Moses; because the likeness in the first place is not based on miracle, but lifestyle and leadership. Just like I said, you need to understand your Bible, that is if you read it. Here is the similarity: Mother and Father: Moses had human mother and human Father, but Jesus had only human mother but no human biological Father, Muhammad had human mother and human Father. Therefore, Jesus is not like Moses, but Muhammad is like Moses. True or False? |
Re: Muhammad And The Bible by abdulmalik1988(m): 7:39am On Apr 20, 2016 |
Miraculous Birth: Jesus was created by God in a special way, Moses was created in the normal way, so was Muhammad (p) created in the normal way: a male and female intercourse. There Jesus is not like Moses but Muhammad is like Moses, true or false? |
Re: Muhammad And The Bible by abdulmalik1988(m): 7:43am On Apr 20, 2016 |
Marriage: Jesus remain Bachelor all his life, but Moses and Muhammad (p) got married and bore children. Muhammad is like Moses, Jesus is not like Moses, true or false? Let me leave you with these to ponder if you wish; next to come. |
Re: Muhammad And The Bible by abdulmalik1988(m): 7:46am On Apr 20, 2016 |
To add: Help me check for the reason, while Holy ghost gives different information to different Christian domination about things to come, and about guidance. |
Re: Muhammad And The Bible by annunaki2(m): 8:07am On Apr 20, 2016 |
abdulmalik1988: abdulmalik1988: abdulmalik1988: Honestly your line of reasoning is so daft and shallow that I can't begin to debate with you. Did you read the rubbish you wrote before posting ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Muhammad And The Bible by abdulmalik1988(m): 8:30am On Apr 20, 2016 |
No! No! No! You don't need to get angry and start insult. As a learned person, you only need to prove why a person thinking is daft. You see, when you insult, people around will take you to be the real retarded, thinker. Don't insult ok, it is immoral. |
Re: Muhammad And The Bible by abdulmalik1988(m): 8:42am On Apr 20, 2016 |
According to your John 14: 26, if the holy spirit is how you christians view him, since his coming and going non of you has been able to provide one info, he gives you about things to come. Has he? If so, pls ask him what he tells a catholic Bishop, if you are protester, then the Bishop may give you exact answer to what he (holy ghost) tells you the protester. |
Re: Muhammad And The Bible by abdulmalik1988(m): 8:49am On Apr 20, 2016 |
You know, no one will believe that the holy ghost comes to disunite Christians. His message is suppose to be straightforward and same to all Christians denominations, why is he giving different teachings, has he forgotten his mission? Mind you sirs and MA's I don't debate, I dialogue. |
Re: Muhammad And The Bible by Scholar8200(m): 8:56am On Apr 20, 2016 |
abdulmalik1988:Elijah, Elisha, Isaiah, Jeremiah all had human Father and Mother so this is not the criteria sir. 3 Likes |
Re: Muhammad And The Bible by Scholar8200(m): 8:57am On Apr 20, 2016 |
abdulmalik1988:Did Moses bid them lookout for these mundanes? What makes a prophet?natural birth? 1 Like |
Re: Muhammad And The Bible by Scholar8200(m): 8:58am On Apr 20, 2016 |
abdulmalik1988: Scholar8200: |
Re: Muhammad And The Bible by Scholar8200(m): 9:00am On Apr 20, 2016 |
abdulmalik1988:Not in agreement with your thread sir. However, we know already that the last days would be marked by the flux of false prophets hence we are not moved since we have what we test each with! 1 Like |
Re: Muhammad And The Bible by Scholar8200(m): 9:02am On Apr 20, 2016 |
abdulmalik1988:You cannot understand. Besides, you just expressed your opinion, it would be a waste of time to explain to you (from history and contemporary times) at this stage. 1 Like |
Re: Muhammad And The Bible by Scholar8200(m): 9:04am On Apr 20, 2016 |
abdulmalik1988:You still cannot understand! Anyway, we have many denominations but one Church (born of and led by the Spirit, and that is the one Jesus reckons with).I dont expect you to understand this though. |
Re: Muhammad And The Bible by Scholar8200(m): 9:13am On Apr 20, 2016 |
Scholar8200:Pls deal with this!^^^ |
Re: Muhammad And The Bible by Maamin(m): 8:06am On Apr 21, 2016 |
abdulmalik1988: The bible said "From among their brethren" not from their cousin brethren..stop forcing Muhammed into the bible na! ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Muhammad And The Bible by Blackfire(m): 10:55am On Apr 21, 2016 |
*trying not to laugh*. The op is right u can find the name of mohamed in the bible... Is there ... In the book of delusion chapter 1,0000 vs 1... Infact u will find there that aisha was confirmed as the MOTHER OF ALL BELIEVERS. now go to the book of ABOUT TO BE MAD chapter 419 vs 419 u will see that mohamed is a Chinese man , but his parents are igbos .. But he love ewedu and amala. *pour my 50 litres of fuel away, thinking is dirty water* abeg if u need more verses let me know... |
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