DoctorAlien:


The truth has always been in the Bible, but you decided to believe a lie.

Now, answer this question sincerely with your head: If man (or a part of man) is immortal (which means, he cannot die), is there any need for Jesus to give us another eternal life?

I see were you're confused. Eternal life is something those who believe in Jesus Christ
shall have in the future!

malvisguy212:
I see were you're confused. Eternal life is something those who believe in Jesus Christ
shall have in the future!

oga, that means u erred that immortality is something man is born with.

basic truth: an immortal person dont need eternal life , he already have it

malvisguy212:
I see were you're confused. Eternal life is something those who believe in Jesus Christ
shall have in the future!

The Bible says that people who believe in Jesus Christ have eternal life already, not in the future. See Jn. 3:36

Why are you lying?

malvisguy212:
I see were you're confused. Eternal life is something those who believe in Jesus Christ
shall have in the future!

Please define "immortality" and define "eternal life".

DoctorAlien:

Please define "immortality" and define "eternal life".

u want to nail him

dorox:


Of what purpose is the resurrection if at death we never truly die but just shed our mortal bodies?

At resurrection, we are raised with an incorruptible, immortal body.

dorox:


Of what purpose is the resurrection if at death we never truly die but just shed our mortal bodies?

At resurrection, we are raised with an incorruptible, immortal body. See 1 Corinth 15 and 1 Thess 4.

dorox:


Of what purpose is the resurrection if at death we never truly die but just shed our mortal bodies?

Resurrection means to bring back to life or to revive, that's why we entertain the hope of resurrection because we know that even if we die we will live again if we do Gods will.
Maybe they are telling us that's a different type of resurrection. Lol, my eyes have seen it all in nairaland, like they are now telling us that hellfire is now a spiritual fire.

Jessicha:

"
All go to the same place.All came from the dust and all return to the dust. " Ecc 3:20.

Even Job ehn , knows he will go to the pit or sheol. Job 17:16 , is he a wicked person ?




like psalm 9:17, Job even prayed to go to " hell " Douay rheims bible (sheol) - job 14:13 .

The context in Psalm 9:17 obviously shows (as Strong's concordance ) that Sheol here is more than the grave but the bottomless pit.

goodnews201668:
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Those are parable not real event.
According to John 3:13 Jesus says no man has ascended to heaven except him that came down from heaven.
So neither Lazarus nor Abraham was in heaven when Jesus narrated the story.

ANd who said Abraham's bosom was Heaven?

If jesus story were to be taken literal it means someone in hellfire can see someone in heaven.
It also means someone in hellfire can as well talk to someone in heaven.

Abraham's bosom is NOT Heaven!

Jozzy4:


u want to nail him

It's actually very funny that somebody will go to any length to defend the lie he has chosen believe, even when it has been proven to him that what he believes is a lie.

Jozzy4:


you are confuse man, the rich MAN not the rich ghost or rich immaterial soul . RIch MAN , MAN, MAN , MAN
chai , religion na brainwashing o

Jesus descriptions are human , clear . not the nonsense u are reading into it

Show that nonsense being read into it. Besides, who mentioned ghost?Obviously you have a penchant for accusing others for what you are guilty of!

Scholar8200:
ANd who said Abraham's bosom was Heaven?


Abraham's bosom is NOT Heaven!

But according to you, Jesus was describing the fate of man at death, right?

DoctorAlien:


Will eternity for righteous people be such that the wicked (supposedly also alive forever) will be within earshot disturbing their communion with GOD with their constant cries and be them begging for water?

Abraham's bosom is not the final abode of the righteous, that is what Reveations 19,21,22 reveals! So this point is irrelevant.

Scholar8200:
At resurrection, we are raised with an incorruptible, immortal body. See 1 Corinth 15 and 1 Thess 4.

Stop deceiving yourself there the Bible talks about being resurrected as a spirit, if we are spirits whats the essence of resurrecting people to become spirits again?

DoctorAlien:


Who is talking about worm? Worm is not mentioned in Psalm 37:9,10. The wicked will BE NO MORE!

Where is this mysterious place you said they are going?

Yes, that is why we talk of examining the whole Scripture not just fleeing with a portion that appears to support an error even if our private interpretation contradicts other passages on the same topic!

Scholar8200:
Abraham's bosom is not the final abode of the righteous, that is what Reveations 19,21,22 reveals! So this point is irrelevant.

You did not answer the question I asked you!

Meanwhile, What then does Abraham's bosom signify in Jesus' parable?

Was Lazarus transferred from Abraham's bosom to a "final destination" in the story?

DoctorAlien:


"The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget GOD" Psalm 9:17.

Definitely, the wicked will be turned into hell. GOD will rain fire and brimstone upon them.

But your folks claim the fire is figurative?! Besides, is the Lake of Fire suddenly become the Rain of Fire? Can you establish this newfangled claim of yours with a Bible verse relevant to the subject matter?

But does this verse say "immediately after their death?"

Lazarus story clears your doubts.

Scholar8200:
Yes, that is why we talk of examining the whole Scripture not just fleeing with a portion that appears to support an error even if our private interpretation contradicts other passages on the same topic!

?

Scholar8200:
The context in Psalm 9:17 obviously shows (as Strong's concordance ) that Sheol here is more than the grave but the bottomless pit.

another lie

Sheol never means bottomless pit.

its translated pit, grave. never Bottomless pit

Scholar8200:
But your folks claim the fire is figurative?! Besides, is the Lake of Fire suddenly become the Rain of Fire? Can you establish this newfangled claim of yours with a Bible verse relevant to the subject matter?

"Upon the wicked He shall rain snares, fire and brimstone, and an horrible tempest..." Psalm 11:6

goodnews201668:


You and worm again, where did you see worm?
Worm is in Gehenna not in hell.
Stop mixing things up.
So you can understand the Bible!

Take a deep breath and read below:


And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire: 48 where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
Mark9:47,48

The story of Lazarus shows where Christ had in mind! Besides, since Jesus use of parables was to reveal things hid from the foundation of the world(has NOTHING to do with the pharisees and the unfortunate jews), I dont see what you are still trying to prove.

Scholar8200:
Lazarus story clears your doubts.

If the story of Lazarus was talking about the fate of man at death, is Abraham's bosom the destination of the righteous?

Scholar8200:
Abraham's bosom is not the final abode of the righteous, that is what Reveations 19,21,22 reveals! So this point is irrelevant.

Una don change am again, what of the hellfire or the rich man?
Another hellfire still dey?

DoctorAlien:


Does the Psalmist say the wicked will be alive burning forever?

Not just one passage forms the basis of a teaching, but the relevant passages from the Scriptures, on the topic.

Scholar8200:
Show that nonsense being read into it. Besides, who mentioned ghost?Obviously you have a penchant for accusing others for what you are guilty of!

An archetypal trick employed by someone who does not to learn but just wants to refute anything said

Scholar8200:
The story of Lazarus shows where Christ had in mind! Besides, since Jesus use of parables was to reveal things hid from the foundation of the world(has NOTHING to do with the pharisees and the unfortunate jews), I dont see what you are still trying to prove.

If the story of Lazarus was talking about the righteous and the wicked and their fate at death, and Lazarus is supposedly the righteous man, while the rich man is the wicked:

What in the story shows that Lazarus was righteous? Was he righteous by merely sitting at the rich man's gate everyday?

Scholar8200:
Not just one passage forms the basis of a teaching, but the relevant passages from the Scriptures, on the topic.

Please, shows us a Bible passage that says the wicked will be alive forever burning.

DoctorAlien:


Please, who is Ezekiel 28:13-18 talking about if not Satan?

Was the king of Tyrus in Eden? Or was he GOD's covering cherub?

Ezekiel 28:2
2 Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord God;

While the body of the message may have a dual application, error starts when we choose to ignore one of the focus.

Scholar8200:

Take a deep breath and read below:


And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire: 48 where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
Mark9:47,48

The story of Lazarus shows where Christ had in mind! Besides, since Jesus use of parables was to reveal things hid from the foundation of the world(has NOTHING to do with the pharisees and the unfortunate jews), I dont see what you are still trying to prove.

My brother that book of mark, Jesus was refering to Gehenna.
You don start again.
Read that place very well, before starting the same yesterday's assertions of yours all over again.

Jozzy4:

another lie
Sheol never means bottomless pit.
its translated pit, grave. never Bottomless pit

I never see this kind lie.

KingEbukasBlog:


An archetypal trick employed by someone who does not to learn but just wants to refute anything said

show me an hint or description in that story that fits an immaterial soul and not MAN ?