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Re: How Can Jesus Give Everlasting Life To Immortal Beings? by goodnews201668: 10:00am On Apr 22, 2016 |
Scholar8200: Does that take away the fact that the portion has a broader application or grander fulfilment? |
Re: How Can Jesus Give Everlasting Life To Immortal Beings? by Scholar8200(m): 10:01am On Apr 22, 2016 |
goodnews201668:That the fire is not quenched is repeated in Revelation 14:10,11 so is that place also Gehenna? 10 the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 11 and the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. Revelation 14:10,11 |
Re: How Can Jesus Give Everlasting Life To Immortal Beings? by Scholar8200(m): 10:02am On Apr 22, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:10 the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 11 and the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. Revelations 14:10,11 |
Re: How Can Jesus Give Everlasting Life To Immortal Beings? by Scholar8200(m): 10:04am On Apr 22, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:Why then did the rich man bid Abraham send Lazarus to warn his brothers? ANd even said if that happens his brothers will REPENT!!! Luke 16:30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. |
Re: How Can Jesus Give Everlasting Life To Immortal Beings? by DoctorAlien(m): 10:04am On Apr 22, 2016 |
Scholar8200: I never quoted Ezekiel 28:2. I only quoted Ezekiel 28:13-18 What is he saying? Stop beating around the bush: who is being referred to in Ezekiel 28:13-18 if not Satan? 1 Like |
Re: How Can Jesus Give Everlasting Life To Immortal Beings? by goodnews201668: 10:05am On Apr 22, 2016 |
You like mixing things up, take it easy. Gehena is different from lake of fire. Scholar8200: |
Re: How Can Jesus Give Everlasting Life To Immortal Beings? by Scholar8200(m): 10:05am On Apr 22, 2016 |
goodnews201668:Did you not read that Death and Hell were cast into the Lake of Fire? Realise that Hell/Sheol has the bottomless pit (Revelations 9:1,2) as a part. |
Re: How Can Jesus Give Everlasting Life To Immortal Beings? by Scholar8200(m): 10:06am On Apr 22, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:Before the resurrection of Christ. |
Re: How Can Jesus Give Everlasting Life To Immortal Beings? by Jozzy4: 10:06am On Apr 22, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:Lazarus is a begger psalm 37:25 said the righteous will not beg for food . |
Re: How Can Jesus Give Everlasting Life To Immortal Beings? by DoctorAlien(m): 10:07am On Apr 22, 2016 |
Scholar8200: So will the righteous and the wicked be communicating in Heaven? 1 Like |
Re: How Can Jesus Give Everlasting Life To Immortal Beings? by Scholar8200(m): 10:08am On Apr 22, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:Prove that this is relevant to the subject matter of final judgement. And what I rather see here is the event in Revelation 20 then note that there, after the raining, the devil is still cast into the Lake of Fire!!! |
Re: How Can Jesus Give Everlasting Life To Immortal Beings? by DoctorAlien(m): 10:09am On Apr 22, 2016 |
Scholar8200: Before the resurrection of Christ, Abraham's bosom was the destination of the righteous? Who said so? So, on whose bosom is Abraham? Is he hanging in the air? 1 Like |
Re: How Can Jesus Give Everlasting Life To Immortal Beings? by Scholar8200(m): 10:11am On Apr 22, 2016 |
Jozzy4:Pit is what? And where is the place mentioned in Revelations 9:1,2? 1 Like |
Re: How Can Jesus Give Everlasting Life To Immortal Beings? by Scholar8200(m): 10:13am On Apr 22, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:That story preceded the resurrection of Christ. In Revelations we read of people in Heaven where God's Throne is and where the River of Life etc is. |
Re: How Can Jesus Give Everlasting Life To Immortal Beings? by Jozzy4: 10:13am On Apr 22, 2016 |
DoctorAlien: Abel died and go to the bossom of the man Abraham that is not yet born |
Re: How Can Jesus Give Everlasting Life To Immortal Beings? by dorox(m): 10:14am On Apr 22, 2016 |
Scholar8200:Let us read the account of Lazarus death and resurrection in John 11:23-25. Jesus said to her, “Your brother will rise again.”How can one be immortal without Jesus? 1 Like |
Re: How Can Jesus Give Everlasting Life To Immortal Beings? by DoctorAlien(m): 10:14am On Apr 22, 2016 |
Scholar8200: Is Rev. 20 not the final judgment? Is it the first judgment? If it is not the final judgment, which one is? |
Re: How Can Jesus Give Everlasting Life To Immortal Beings? by Scholar8200(m): 10:15am On Apr 22, 2016 |
goodnews201668:Interesting, resurrected as spirits! 51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. 1 Corinth 15:51-54 So those who dont sleep will be changed to spirit? Vs 53 shows the change, mortal flesh puts on immortality. NOBODY will be changed to spirit. |
Re: How Can Jesus Give Everlasting Life To Immortal Beings? by Jozzy4: 10:16am On Apr 22, 2016 |
Scholar8200: greek abyss is different from hebrew sheol. your case is a typical example of confusion 1 Like |
Re: How Can Jesus Give Everlasting Life To Immortal Beings? by DoctorAlien(m): 10:16am On Apr 22, 2016 |
Scholar8200: You did not answer my question. What does Abraham's bosom signify? Also, does the Bible indicate that the righteous will be transferred from Abraham's bosom to a "final destination"? 1 Like |
Re: How Can Jesus Give Everlasting Life To Immortal Beings? by Scholar8200(m): 10:17am On Apr 22, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:That discourse preceded His death and resurrection! |
Re: How Can Jesus Give Everlasting Life To Immortal Beings? by Scholar8200(m): 10:20am On Apr 22, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:Those who were martyred in Revelations 6 were not found in Abraham's bosom but in Heaven. The Innumerable company of those redeemed in Revelations 7 were found at the Throne, not Abraham's bosom. Now Bible speaks of the resurrection of saints after Christ resurrected, did they just resurrect and went back to the grave? NO! |
Re: How Can Jesus Give Everlasting Life To Immortal Beings? by Scholar8200(m): 10:22am On Apr 22, 2016 |
Jozzy4:Too bad, abyss is an adjective describing the pit!!! http://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/9-1.htm |
Re: How Can Jesus Give Everlasting Life To Immortal Beings? by Scholar8200(m): 10:23am On Apr 22, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:I meant the part in Revelations 20 where fire will destroy those that try to fight against the camp of the saints, after which follows the Judgement found in Verse 11-15 |
Re: How Can Jesus Give Everlasting Life To Immortal Beings? by DoctorAlien(m): 10:25am On Apr 22, 2016 |
Scholar8200: ? Was Jesus talking about the fate of the dead in the story of Lazarus or not? |
Re: How Can Jesus Give Everlasting Life To Immortal Beings? by Jozzy4: 10:26am On Apr 22, 2016 |
Scholar8200: not just an adjective , the pit is the pit of the abyss . not sheol pit of the Abyss" Rev 9:1 i guess u think the word translated pit in the verse is Sheol . more lies exposed . 1 Like |
Re: How Can Jesus Give Everlasting Life To Immortal Beings? by Scholar8200(m): 10:27am On Apr 22, 2016 |
dorox:Consider that verse 26 and tell me if that refers to physical death bearing in mind that MANY believers, even the apostles died! |
Re: How Can Jesus Give Everlasting Life To Immortal Beings? by DoctorAlien(m): 10:34am On Apr 22, 2016 |
Scholar8200: What is he saying? The resurrection will be at the last day according to the Bible. Show us the place where the Bible says the saints will be transferred from Abraham's bosom to another place! 1 Like |
Re: How Can Jesus Give Everlasting Life To Immortal Beings? by DoctorAlien(m): 10:34am On Apr 22, 2016 |
Scholar8200: What is he saying? The resurrection will be at the last day according to the Bible. Show us the place where the Bible says the saints will be transferred from Abraham's bosom to another place! |
Re: How Can Jesus Give Everlasting Life To Immortal Beings? by DoctorAlien(m): 10:40am On Apr 22, 2016 |
Scholar8200: If the fire burns them to ashes, will their ashes be judged or what? 1 Like |
Re: How Can Jesus Give Everlasting Life To Immortal Beings? by dorox(m): 10:42am On Apr 22, 2016 |
Scholar8200:Jesus made it quite clear that anyone who died believing in Him will not remain dead forever. He likened it to the temporary unconciousness we have when we fall asleep, because He alone has power over death. So on the day of resurrection all those who are 'asleep' in Him will be brought back to life like you would wake someone from a deep sleep. 1 Like |
Re: How Can Jesus Give Everlasting Life To Immortal Beings? by Scholar8200(m): 10:44am On Apr 22, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:Abraham's bosom is not heaven. DoctorAlien:Matthew 27:52 read and learn Jozzy4:What is the abyss? The pit is one of the synonyms for Sheol! http://biblehub.com/strongs/hebrew/7585.htm abyss means bottomless, an adjective describing the pit! |
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