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Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by Amberon11: 11:46am On Apr 23, 2016 |
I will open a thread specially for you. There I will explain all that I need to tell you, that's why I haven't been replying. promise101: |
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by PHAYOL81: 12:11pm On Apr 23, 2016 |
Amberon11: D Bible was corrupted overtym by peeps trying to translate into different languages thereby creating different meanings from the original and with that done overtym these lengthy centuries, you can bet the series we have around today are surely a testification. As per Moslems being gullible, I will say those were the unreasonable few who smear Islam with the dirt around it today cos God Himself never wants you following anything blindly and there are Quranic verses supporting that let alone Hadith and Sunnah. Islam proclaim the necessity of education even for worship and enjoin every individual toy acquire it to the best of his capability. I dare say the few sect are ignorant of the book cos I fail to see where Quran wanted u to kill an innocent irrespective of his faith except that he'd deliberately committed murder himself.. Jihad, the holy fights, only occurred cos wMoslems then were being victimized and was stopped immediately Moslems gained the upper hand not when the violators converted. 1 Like |
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by mustymatic(m): 3:25pm On Apr 23, 2016 |
Amberon11:hahahaha....I understand your pastors didn't show u that. read ya bible dude, According to 2nd Corinthians 4:4, Satan is the god of this evil world... “In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. ” I understand you don't know the bible. take a medal. hahaha |
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by truthmans2012: 3:49pm On Apr 23, 2016 |
mustymatic: The god of this world is Satan aka Allah and those he has blinded are the muslims. They have been blinded to see the truth of God's words and embrace satanic religion, islam. |
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by mustymatic(m): 4:02pm On Apr 23, 2016 |
truthmans2012:K |
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by truthmans2012: 7:25pm On Apr 23, 2016 |
mustymatic: Exhausted !!! |
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by mustymatic(m): 8:19pm On Apr 23, 2016 |
truthmans2012:K |
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by najib632(m): 11:39am On Apr 25, 2016 |
truthmans2012:You are wrong the Qur'an refers to jews and christians as the people of the book or yahood(Jews) and Nasarah (Christians) that chapter was revealed while prophet Muhammad S.A.W. was still in makkah it was when he went to medina that he had encountered Jews and because they were expecting him that's why they accepted Islam quickly. |
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by truthmans2012: 12:07pm On Apr 25, 2016 |
najib632: What are you saying ? Was it not the same allah who said the Jews and Christians didn't believe in Muhammad's allah (Quran 9:29)? |
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by najib632(m): 3:28pm On Apr 25, 2016 |
lordnicklaus:Are u trying to say aljabar was not a muslim? I hope not cus that will not make any sense. 1.About the earth being flat https://islamqa.info/en/211655 2. Semen being formed between tthe back bone and the ribs check this out www.answering-christianity.com/munir_munshey/semenproduction_rebuttal.htm and this www.ahlalhdeeth.com/vbe/showthread.php?t=2602 3. Sun setting in a muddy pool www.answering-christianity.com/sunrise_sunset.htm 4. There are 7 earths means the 7 layers of the earth see this www.islamreligion.com/articles/299/seven-earths/ 5. About the sun going round the its just very false because the Quran totally contradicts that www.miraclesofthequran.com/scientific_104.html and www.answering-christianity.com/earth_rotation.htm 6. Trying to say the Quranic embryology is wrong doesn't make sense check this out www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Science/embryo.html I belive the bible is a divine book but it has been temperd with I will like u to keep on listing the so çalled flaws in the Quran so that I'll keep on clearifying it. But my friend why didnt you say the expansion of the universe is false? |
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by najib632(m): 3:44pm On Apr 25, 2016 |
truthmans2012:The chapter you qouted me with was refering to pagans Qur'an 9:29 says: Fight against those who believe not in Allah, nor in the last Day, nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad S.A.W.) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth ( i.e. Islam among the people of the scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah ( they become vasals ) with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. So where is it in this verse that Allah calls people of the Scripture unbelievers? |
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by najib632(m): 3:51pm On Apr 25, 2016 |
truthmans2012:How dare you call the Lord of the universe satan are u out of mind. Muslims start reciting the Qur'an by saying "I seek protection from God against the Devil" don't let your ignorance lead you to blasphemy. |
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by truthmans2012: 9:15am On Apr 26, 2016 |
najib632: I didn't want to answer you before but if I don't you will think you are making sense. Quran 9:29 Pickthal] Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah or the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low. Look up at the bold. It says "those who believe not in allah" . Who are those people? The Jews and the Christians. Now, are Jews and Christians believers or disbelievers in allah ? |
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by truthmans2012: 9:21am On Apr 26, 2016 |
najib632: Deception !!! That statement is to make you believe you are against Satan. The truth is, since allah is not Yahweh who had been God before islam, he is no other than Satan. |
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by najib632(m): 10:10am On Apr 26, 2016 |
truthmans2012:Guy what is wrong with u. You didn't even write the correct verse but anyhow letme ask you who are the people of the Scripture? |
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by najib632(m): 10:12am On Apr 26, 2016 |
truthmans2012:May Allah reward you with your deeds. |
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by aminusanti(m): 12:41pm On Apr 26, 2016 |
truthmans2012: Guy, I advised u many time but u are still refusing to use it.!! You are wasting your time by spreading ignorance here on NL thinking u are making sense. Copy n paste from anti islam sites will take u no where without further reading I swear...nothing will make sense to you if u lack basic knowledge of anything. Seek proper knowledge b4 is too late my friend and stop wasting your, if u don't know something or not sure of it you ask politely not trying hard to make people to believe what you saying here.. |
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by truthmans2012: 2:53pm On Apr 26, 2016 |
aminusanti: I understand islam far better than you. What you think you know is FALSEHOOD. I pity you. |
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by aminusanti(m): 3:47pm On Apr 26, 2016 |
truthmans2012: Time waster.. help me put me to the right path..senseless man worshipers. Blind arguments is all u are here 4. |
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by Nobody: 4:23pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
najib632: Even the bible refers to universal expansion. I have read all the links you posted before and I see nothing new. Your Quran clearly says that Allah stretches the earth like a carpet. Even if Al Jabra was Muslim, that doesn't mean he made use of the Quran in formulating Algebra. Your Quran says the sun sets in a muddy pool. All those trying to reconcile the Quran are wasting their time cos it is futile and worst of all, the stories and characters in your Quran lacks historical evidence except of course Muhammad and characters which are also biblical. |
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by Nobody: 4:58pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
@lexiconkabir. I just saw your post now. I can reconcile those you posted concerning the bible. You made reference to "four corners of the earth." The word translated as earth is the Hebrew word "arets" and it can also be translated as "land", so the actual translation is "four corners of the land" and in reference to the "ends of the earth", an accurate translation is "ends of the land" which refers to the four cardinal points. You also made reference to the words of Jesus. Note, that portion was written in Greek or Aramaic, so the Greek word translated as "smallest" is the word "mikrotenos" which refers not to "small in size" but "small in value" or "least in value" or "small in dignity" Concerning the devil taking Jesus to a high mountain, the Aramaic manuscript for that portion says "the devil showed him all the kingdoms of the land" and the word "world" arose from a mistranslation. Concerning the dragon waging war, the book of Revelation is not to be taken literally but symbolically and so that war is a symbolic or spiritual one. For your reference to ants, even the kings and the queens need direction but they have none, so the verse is right. The verse never said "ants do not have a leader amongst themselves" but that ants in general (even king and queens) have no leader........... |
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by Nobody: 6:50pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
lordnicklaus: Actually the word is gēn, so basically you are giving us the answer of a desperate Christian apologist. http://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/7.htm and in reference to the "ends of the earth", an accurate translation is "ends of the land" which refers to the four cardinal points.Thats the accurate translation? How come ive not seen a single translation that says this? Your are desperate you know? When will you give us your own translation of the bible? You also made reference to the words of Jesus. Note, that portion was written in Greek or Aramaic, so the Greek word translated as "smallest" is the word "mikrotenos" which refers not to "small in size" but "small in value" or "least in value" or "small in dignity" Prove the embolden Concerning the devil taking Jesus to a high mountain, the Aramaic manuscript for that portion says "the devil showed him all the kingdoms of the land" and the word "world" arose from a mistranslation. Ok let me get this straight, all the bibles mistranslated? Concerning the dragon waging war, the book of Revelation is not to be taken literally but symbolically and so that war is a symbolic or spiritual one. Yoy don't have problem with this fairy tell, but you have problem with muslims believing in some things that you allege as error. For your reference to ants, even the kings and the queens need direction but they have none, so the verse is right. The verse never said "ants do not have a leader amongst themselves" but that ants in general (even king and queens) have no leader...........Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! It has no commander, no overseer or ruler yet it stores its provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest. Thats the verse in question, as you can see it refers to a particular ant not ants in general..... You are yet to answer this sef ohn 12:24 "I tell you the truth, unless a kernel of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it remains only a single seed. But if it dies, it produces many seeds." Lolzzz, cheesy That is scientifically false. The dead seed does not produce new seeds 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by analice107: 7:12pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
ypeace:You are saying that according to the Koran, Christians are those who blaspheme? What do they blaspheme? Except of course you are saying that Christians blaspheme against Christ? What brought the Jehovah's Witness into this discussion? When the Koran was written there was no JW, so stick to the point. I get one thing here straight, the Muslims have been programmed to believe only what the Koran says, then they should also believe what it says about Christians and Jews and their Book. But no, muslims can't bring themselves to believe it, they have to twist it out and give it another interpretation, just like the one you are giving right now. You are trying to say, Christians according your interpretation of that Koranic verse are not the believers but blasphemers. At the point when that verse was written, were the Christians in Mecca knew exactly what Muhammed intended? Were they believers or blasphemers of the Koran? You are making it seem like, the information the Christians of today have, was the same information the Christians then had about Islam. Muhammed presented himself to them as a prophet, they only rejected them because their scripture never prophesied anything about Muhammed of Arabia coming as a prophet, will you term that as blasphemy? Now, if Christians both then and now, are not Christ followers but blasphemers, who then is the Koran referring in that verse as those Christians who are superior till judgement? If you say the Koran is referring to muslims as the true followers of Christ, Can it then mean that, muslims can be muslims and Christians at the same time? because that verse specifically mentioned Christians. |
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by analice107: 8:27pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
ypeace:Really? Muhammed of Arabia was indeed an interesting man. So of all the Christian world, only two persons passed his test to be Christians indeed. The king of Abyssinia and Waraga Bin Nawal. I won't talk about that King of Abyssinia for now. So this king and Waraga were indeed the only approved Christians? could it be because Waraga mixed his Christianity with Arabic religious/superstitious beliefs? And becos he happened to be Muhammed's tutor? Without Waraga, Muhammed wouldn't have been able to plagiarize the Bible. Waraqa at the time of Muhammed had translated the new testament Bible to the Arabic language, so new about Christianity well. When Muhammed married Kadijat he didn't know allahh, as a supreme being. Allahh was one of the Arabian 360 gods in the Ka'aba. When Muhammed couldn't take the torment from the demon anymore, Kadijat took him to see Waraga who doubled as a Soothsayer to consult and find out if Muhammed was possessed by a demon. (Remember there was no Islam as a religion then). Waraga the acclaimed christian swore by Allah, that the entity tormenting Muhammed was Angel Gabriel. This is the man Muhammed approved to fit the description of the world's only christian? A Soothsayer. And why not? |
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by analice107: 8:31pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
ypeace:I have a little problem here. Plse help me out. Brother Annunaki, is it in the Koran it is written that the Bible is corrupted or in their Hadiths and sunnah? I think it was Muhammed who wrote that. If the Koran |
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by truthmans2012: 8:38pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
analice107: Don't mind them, allah is a deceiver. If the Christians are blasphemers, why did he still say they will go to heaven with reward (Quran 2:62) ? It doesn't take rocket science to discover he is Satan in disguise to take Muslims to Hellfire. |
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by analice107: 9:06pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
ypeace:I have a little problem here. Plse help me out with some of these questions. 1. Is it the Koran or not which claims the injeel is corrupt? 2. If Muhammed who wrote the Koran all by himself said the Bible was corrupted. Did he mean the Bible was already corrupted as when he was alive then, or now due to the numerous translations? 3. It the Bible was corrupted then, how many translation were there then? 4. If he claimed the Bible got corrupted, shouldn't reason tell you that, he most have the original copy to prove that point to at least one of his followers, did any Muslim saw this original Bible? 5. Wait, you just said, the Muslims believed that the bible or injeel is fake because the Koran and hadith says it, not becos they have seen the original. My God!!!!. Not Muhammed, not even one single Muslim saw the original copy, yet every Muslim believe this lie? Something is wrong with Islam. So everything Muhammed says is true? How can you for sure know if Muhammed lied? It is not enough to say the Bible is fake when you yourself have not seen the original copy, we need prove or pls keep it. I want to understand why it's a wrong perception to ask for the original copy of injeel. Is this book (injeel) invisible? because you mention Or likened injeel to Angels. Angels are invisible except when they want to manifest in the flesh. This is the first time am hearing that a book is invincible. How is that? Now, this injeel, when allahh gave it to Jesus, was it for Jesus to use just for himself or did he pass it down to his followers to he used as a guide? At what point did the followers corrupted it? If muslims are the real followers of Jesus, how do they do it without being guided by the Injeel given to Jesus by allahh? Pls when you make assertions, pls think. |
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by analice107: 9:10pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
Blackfire:Them go fit? |
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by Blackfire(m): 10:06pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
analice107: they tell me the bible is fake.. Yet they looking for a way to smuggle their prophet name into it. It can only prove one thing that the bible is true, and your quran is fake as mohamed claiming prophet. How are u my dear? |
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by analice107: 10:15pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
Annunaki:Something is seriously wrong with the Muslims. Did this guy actually said, nobody has ever seen the original Injeel? He said they believe is corrupted because Koran and hadith said it is, not becos they have the original and have compared it? Did this guy actually implied the book is invisible like an Angel? I never believed I will live to hear this. Now, am 100% certain Islam is the religion of Satan. How do you know the counterfeited currency when you have never seen the original bill? And this people are killing Christians based on this lie? What happened to the human brain? |
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by analice107: 10:19pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
Silsilah:What ![]() ![]() It's Injeel an invisible book or a written material? |
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by analice107: 10:22pm On Apr 28, 2016 |
ypeace:Was the gospel bestowed on Jesus? The Bible say Jesus wrote any gospel? This guy nah, na waoo. How can a seemingly intelligent person become this dumb? |
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