Dollyak:

Well I do agree with all the point.
1. I agree that proportionately, core northerners get the most and contribute the least. I.e It's criminal how kaduna gets more funds than Oyo state.
2. The deliberate marginalisation of SE being the root cause of biafra agitation is also absolute. Though, I blame the selfish elders in Igbo land who are not strategic but only cares about their wallet.

Saying Northerners contribute the least to the Nigerian purse is a flat lie. And do not come up with those NBS figures because those numbers doesn't represent the reality. Find something better to do with your life instead of bashing Northerners at every given opportunity. This is becoming stale

Dollyak:

Well I do agree with all the point.
1. I agree that proportionately, core northerners get the most and contribute the least. I.e It's criminal how kaduna gets more funds than Oyo state.
2. The deliberate marginalisation of SE being the root cause of biafra agitation is also absolute. Though, I blame the selfish elders in Igbo land who are not strategic but only cares about their wallet.

While I agree with your second point that igbos marginalized themselves as a result of their greed and lack of political strategy, I strongly disagree with your first point that northerners contribute the least, especially as it was not backed by facts and figures and stinks of bigotry.

Kaduna has one of the most robust economies in Nigeria for your info and I can back that up with facts and figures.

ukomko:


I am the pillar.... and
You are the pillar.


Both are not the same

Bros no vex oo, but it seems you're taking something very strong this morning.

Please go over that again. I don't know where you're coming from or going to with this.

Have a nice day.

BMedia:


While I agree with your second point that igbos marginalized themselves as a result of their greed and lack of political strategy, I strongly disagree with your first point that northerners contribute the least, especially as it was not backed by facts and figures and stinks of bigotry.

Kaduna has one of the most robust economies in Nigeria for your info and I can back that up with facts and figures.

What are they contributing?? Forget your figures

The North has contributed little to the growth of this country but have collected more. I'm not a fan of secession but with the way things are going, they'll soon be an uprising in this country. I'm not an advocate of secession but with the way things are going in this country, I fear the worse might happen. People are becoming more aware each day and the world is watching. Social media have made things much easier.

BMedia:


While I agree with your second point that igbos marginalized themselves as a result of their greed and lack of political strategy, I strongly disagree with your first point that northerners contribute the least, especially as it was not backed by facts and figures and stinks of bigotry.

Kaduna has one of the most robust economies in Nigeria for your info and I can back that up with facts and figures.

Let's back it up with facts. I am happy to end up with egg on my face. The floor is yours.

HammerTheirPapa:


Who do you support Ezeife or the fulani leaders?

You wey dey support them Na you don't know anything

Dollyak:

Let's back it up with facts. I am happy to end up with egg on my face. The floor is yours.

Dollyak:
For the usual suspects complaining about "“The North takes by far, more than it contributes to the coffers of Nigeria".
This statement was made in proportion to other regions and if you disagree let's trash it out. In economic balance the core Northern state has the most negative quotient. In other words they get wayy more than they contribute with respect to other regions. What SE get is a fraction of what the core northerners get.

(The middle belts are not core northerners.)

This is the beginning of your blindness. You are comparing what 1 politically weak region gets to what 3 northern regions get, 3 regions that you fraudulently classify as one 'core north'. What is core North and where is it referenced in our constitution?

This will be the basis of any argument.

fulanmafia:


My friend if you cannot logically counter any of my assertions like I did Ezeife's, you'd better keep shut and avoid my mentions.

Nobody has time for baseless emotional babble.

Guy you said nothing! I mean nothing to point to.

I'm fully much with Ezeife on this issue even though I rarely agree with his old age induced ramblings.
Your leaders letter to Bubu is in bad taste, why do you think you deserve more when you don't contribute more to the nation.

loopman:


Guy you said nothing! I mean nothing to point to.

I'm fully much with Ezeife on this issue even though I rarely agree with his old age induced ramblings.
Your leaders letter to Bubu is in bad taste, why do you think you deserve more when you don't contribute more to the nation.

That's the power of political muscle. Politics is not for the faint hearted or altruistic. You use what you have to get what you want.

Progressive01:
Bros no vex oo, but it seems you're taking something very strong this morning.

Please go over that again. I don't know where you're coming from or going to with this.

Have a nice day.

If your friend comes to your house and say "guy you supported me heavily in my project." Will you say No, guy didn't.
And
.
.
.
Maybe you write to your guy and say "guy i supported you heavily in your project.


There are not the same guy.

Igbos didn't write to Jonathan


Understand where I am going

ukomko:
FORMER Anambra State governor, Dr Chukwuemeka Ezeife has described the recent letter to President Muhammadu Buhari by the northern elders wherein they claimed “short changed” in capital budgetary allocations as “unnecessary”, and arising from their “studied” notice of the dominance of the three zones of the North, especially the North west in budgetary allocations.

He pointed out that “it may be a matter of how much more the North must have, in excess of the south, for the backbone North not to feel shortchanged.” Ezeife, a former federal permanent secretary, in a terse six-­point letter released at the weekend entitled, “Letter to Northern Elders and all Nigerians on the Northern Elders letter to the President” addressed the issues raised by them in their letter, and frowned against the use of Ambassador Maitama Sule, who he described as “ symbol of One Nigeria from the deep North,” as a signatory.

He queried why they did not use “Dr Junaid Mohammed the irredentist deep Northerner, who appears to be disdainful of other Nigerians” instead for the hatchet job. He saluted their courage in pointing out some of the critical negative factors responsible for the rapid decline of the Nigerian economy (the collapse of the Naira, serious loss of values in the stock market, the unprecedented high level of suffering of the Nigerian people etc), adding that the letter also implies the inaccessibility of the president for advice by those who should know.

While further x-­raying the letter, he agreed with their call for “immediate establishment of an economic management team;; raising the ‘quality of advice and support the president requires,’ and for him to conclude the appointment of key officers and advisers,” adding, however, that they forgot to remind the president that “these officers may not all be available from Daura or even Katsina.”

He further praised them for noting the “evident weakness and gaps in skills, competences, experience and (even) integrity,” for believing the allegations “that Boko Haram still has substantial presence in many areas near Maiduguri and other towns and villages,” and for expressing doubt about “quality of intelligence, and leadership of the Armed Forces,” urging the president to handle their advice with the urgency it deserves, having come from a friendly direction.

On the claim of southern dominance in recurrent expenditure, Ezeife explained that not all recurrent expenditure is personnel emolument. It includes, according to him, operational and logistics cost of governance, citing the president’s foreign trips, “contributions to OIC and to Saudi-­sponsored anti-­terrorism fund;; payment for power, fuel, stationery, etc.”

He challenged their posturing of being the “backbone of the Buhari administration, informing them “that the backbone of anything, or body, or an administration should be an asset, not a liability or a leakage.”

“The North takes by far, more than it contributes to the coffers of Nigeria. Neither in funding or expertise, can it be said that the North is the backbone of a Nigerian government. Or did they mean that the North voted most for Buhari? That was in the past, even if it is the truth. What about the West, from which Buhari is not?” Commenting on their recommendation that the president should bring the ‘full weight of the law on IPOB, (Indigenous People of Biafra) he demanded that it should be “full weight of respect for court decisions, human rights, rights to self-determination, which the United Nations has removed from the internal affairs of a state, etc.” “Answering some of the issues raised in the elders’ letter is like chasing rats while the house is burning.

The Fulani North does have the right to, and should advise their son, on winning ways: in politics, economics and social relations,” he summarized.

The elder statesman urged the northern elders to advise the president on the neglect of the South-­east and the promotion of Biafra. He accused the president of taking actions that make “non-­pretenders in the South-­east feel exposed to gross inequity, injustice as unfairness;; marginalization, discrimination, as not being seen as full-fledged Nigerian nationals, or not qualified to hold the highest office in the land.”

He listed some of these actions as not including a South-east person in his first 40 appointments, the withdrawal of the appointment of an easterner at NIMASA three days after announcement, failure to appoint a South-­east person to even the sixth and least protocol position in government, in a six geo-political zone structure;; not one Igbo person is in the National Security Council, spilling the blood of eastern youths at Aba, Onitsha and many other places, and disrespect for rule of law by keeping Nnamdi Kanu in detention despite court orders for his release on bail.

Others include undisguised hatred for the Igbo, and the repugnant case of security agencies arresting and detaining 76 youths who tried to repel the rampaging Fulani herdsmen from their farms, among others.

He said: “This is what Biafra is all about – a reaction to unfairness, injustice, iniquities, and inequities against the South-­east by the president.”

He further accused the DSS (Department of State Services) of ethnic bias and being the power behind the Fulani herdsmen. “This impression became stronger after their unsubstantiated allegation of a shallow grave in Abia State. It is not in the long interest of Nigeria, nor the Fulani in Nigeria, that the herdsmen maraud Nigeria, rampaging, raping, killing, sacking farmers and taking over their farmlands. He kicked against the grazing bill currently on the floor of the National Assembly, warning that “we should not institute a permanent conflict through the bill if passed into law.” Concluding, Ezeife observed that those who need Nigeria most are toying with her survival, adding that the nation has so far failed in living up to its manifest destiny. He therefore, stated that Nigeria has no basis for continued existence, unless it can become a totally changed country.


http://biafrasay.com/p/320564/ezeife-to-northern-elders-buhari-creating-biafra

This stupid man with goatee will not stop behaving like a goat. The elections has been won and lost, but wailers will not rest.

loopman:


Guy you said nothing! I mean nothing to point to.

I'm fully much with Ezeife on this issue even though I rarely agree with his old age induced ramblings.
Your leaders letter to Bubu is in bad taste, why do you think you deserve more when you don't contribute more to the nation.

Someone has already given you an answer it appears.

Ezeife is really sad, and would be a sad nan until he he follow the UN guidelines for a self- determination state. Nobody in Nigeria is afraid of biafra save the Ibo people. If not why participating in Nigeria elections?

fulanmafia:
Baseless pile of *** from a greying iPod.

The fact remains that the SE played itself into political irrelevance with its politics of hatred and bigotry. Instead of making efforts to build bridges with other regions to strike political alliances, and make amends with other Nigerians that they insulted and derided during the last elections because of the IB, they are waiting cap in hand for appointments they said they never needed from the Amala/Tuwo party. Dem go wait tire.

The other fact remains that the North IS the political backbone of Buhari's administration. As for the economic backbone that Ezeife mentioned, that title currently belongs SOLELY to the South South. Ezeife should know everyone is aware that the SE also takes more from Nigeria than it contributes, like the rest of the regions.

As for NK, he should face his trial for treason and if he's innocent, he can crip walk back to Nnewi.

Probably posting from a fuel queue.

Until you can all provide each regions contribution to GDP what you're saying is complete hogwash.

ukomko:



What are they contributing?? Forget your figures

What are you contributing?

BMedia:




This is the beginning of your blindness. You are comparing what 1 politically weak region gets to what 3 northern regions get, 3 regions that you fraudulently classify as one 'core north'. What is core North and where is it referenced in our constitution?

This will be the basis of any argument.

You are the blind person here. You guys don't care about NC, they share nothing (culturally) with you guys,doesn't get as much funding as the core northerners, so don't include them in your write up.
Let's just ignore the questionable population of both NW and NE being bandied about, what does the whole SE gets in proportion to NW? Let's start from there.

I specifically mentioned core northerners which is exclusively NW and to an extent NE.

BMedia:
Until you can all provide each regions contribution to GDP what you're saying is complete hogwash.

The guy teeaaar race.....voomvoom

jamesibor:


Probably posting from a fuel queue.

Unfortunately for you, I haven't been on a fuel queue for years.

BMedia:


What are you contributing?

If the igbos should pause all their services all over nigeria. The economy will be in coma

BMedia:
Until you can all provide each regions contribution to GDP what you're saying is complete hogwash.

Facts are out there. Tell me Kaduna's and kano's contribution to Nigeria and why they are both getting way more fund than OYO for instance. I want fact and figures from a real source (I do know a few mind you).

Dollyak:

You are the blind person here. You guys don't care about NC, they share nothing (culturally) with you guys,doesn't get as much funding as the core northerners, so don't include them in your write up.
Let's just ignore the questionable population of both NW and NE being bandied about, what does the whole SE gets in proportion to NW? Let's start from there.

I specifically mentioned core northerners which is exclusively NW and to an extent NE.

NC share cultural and religious similarities with NW and NE, so your assertion is false and not to be taken seriously. We know where you're coming from and what your problem is. All what you're trying to do is divide and conquer. It is not the fault of Northerners that our Southern counterparts are not united, unite your region and tackle your issues.

Dollyak:

You are the blind person here. You guys don't care about NC, they share nothing (culturally) with you guys,doesn't get as much funding as the core northerners, so don't include them in your write up.
Let's just ignore the questionable population of both NW and NE being bandied about, what does the whole SE gets in proportion to NW? Let's start from there.

I specifically mentioned core northerners which is exclusively NW and to an extent NE.

Ignore the population indeed. How convenient

You are yet to define 'core north' and prove it's not a figment of your wild imagination by providing a link to where it's referred in the constitution.

When you're done with that, the figures of SE's contribution to the national purse will be vital to your argument so you'd better have those handy. I will subsequently give you a brief lecture on the many advantages and benefits of political power and influence.

fulanmafia:
[s]Baseless pile of *** from a greying iPod.

The fact remains that the SE played itself into political irrelevance with its politics of hatred and bigotry. Instead of making efforts to build bridges with other regions to strike political alliances, and make amends with other Nigerians that they insulted and derided during the last elections because of the IB, they are waiting cap in hand for appointments they said they never needed from the Amala/Tuwo party. Dem go wait tire.

The other fact remains that the North IS the political backbone of Buhari's administration. As for the economic backbone that Ezeife mentioned, that title currently belongs SOLELY to the South South. Ezeife should know everyone is aware that the SE also takes more from Nigeria than it contributes, like the rest of the regions.

As for NK, he should face his trial for treason and if he's innocent, he can crip walk back to Nnewi[/s].

Same trash as always and BTW its stale. Say something else

Mtchwww! Some pple still have time for this never do good country, they want to be patriotic to a country that has ceased to exist.

All u hear is, "Nigeria go better" , but she never does; I mean there will always be strikes, religious crisis, insurgency, fuel scarcity, epileptic power supply, unemployment, injustice,... List is endless.

All these anomalies in a country where some folks from a particular region claim to be the back bone of an administration, and u begin to wonder what the yardstick for measuring the so called back bone brouhaha is;

Is it by the number youths ( including corpers) killed in that region, or by insurgency, religious and sectarian crisis prevalent in that region, is it by breeding savaged uneducated youths (almajiri), maybe it is by abducting under aged girls and for forcing them into marriage and Islam.

The North is really the back bone of Buhari's administration, no wonder it has been met with so much hardship and cluelessness.

Abeg Ezeife allow the North enjoy in their pool...

Amoto94:
NC share cultural and religious similarities with NW and NE, so your assertion is false and not to be taken seriously. We know where you're coming from and what your problem is. All what you're trying to do is divide and conquer. It is not the fault of Northerners that our Southern counterparts are not united, unite your region and tackle your issues.

Which NC? Kogi, Kwarans, benue, Benin, or Plateau? I have read quite a few books on Nigeria so I don't know from which source you are giving your assertion.
Kwarans (not culturally-Mostly Yorubas), nasarawa are the only ones that exclusively shares religious beliefs with the core Northerners.

Dollyak:

Facts are out there. Tell me Kaduna's and kano's contribution to Nigeria and why they are both getting way more fund than OYO for instance. I want fact and figures from a real source (I do know a few mind you).

Stop being lazy madam, you came up with the baseless assertion about the North, now you've been asked to provide data on regional contribution (which any sane person should have already had before making your assertion) and you're now running in circles asking me to provide Kano's contribution. Mind you, you also need to provide Oyo's contribution.

Or you can leave this thread if all your opinion was based on is 'facts out there in the beer parlour'

fulanmafia:


Unfortunately for you, I haven't been on a fuel queue for years.

Of course, when you ride shanu da amalanke.

Ina ruan angulu da kiso?

ukomko:



If the igbos should pause all their services all over nigeria. The economy will be in coma

If the North should all its contribution to Nigeria, not just its economy will be in coma, but your stomach too. Go and educate yourself on the contribution of Agriculture to the GDP and the North's contribution to that.

fulanmafia:


Not just a hypocrite but lying relic of the biafran war. He fraudulently gave the impression that the North is the only region that takes more than it contributes to the national purse, like everyone does not know that the SE is reliant on oil revenue.

When they were called the backbone of GEJ's presidency they were gloating like overfed peacocks while they were being tricked into believing the IB was converting their region to Japan, now they have been told the stark truth and they are squealing like famished piglets.

atleast they have oil what di you Fulani have ....... Fulani parasites

BMedia:


Stop being lazy madam, you came up with the baseless assertion about the North, now you've been asked to provide data on regional contribution (which any sane person should have already had before making your assertion) and you're now running in circles asking me to provide Kano's contribution. Mind you, you also need to provide Oyo's contribution.

Or you can leave this thread if all your opinion was based on is 'facts out there in the beer parlour'

I want you to provide the source yourself. The source is out there even here on Nl.

BMedia:


While I agree with your second point that igbos marginalized themselves as a result of their greed and lack of political strategy, I strongly disagree with your first point that northerners contribute the least, especially as it was not backed by facts and figures and stinks of bigotry.

Kaduna has one of the most robust economies in Nigeria for your info and I can back that up with facts and figures.

This highlighted was your argument so I want you to back it up with source. You can't move the goal post. Many datas are out there (even on nl), starting from IGR to economic output. Do research on my previous posts and you will find many source as well. I can't be spoon feeding you guys all the time.