cocoduck:
you are a story teller, your kumuyi is a their trying to cover his tracks and he is using people like you, who lack thinking capacity. You hate JWs but we will never hate you in return, okay? but haters gonn' hate potatoes gonn' potate

ok

paulGrundy:


What proof do u have for your claim? RCC boasts of 6billion members, JW of 8million that has been stagnant for about 5 years now is claiming more increase, mansions are talking, face me I face you is talking.

You don't know what you are talking about at all, Catholics have deviated from the faith, they did that a long time ago, about just after the death of the apostles, and they became wolves in sheep's clothing, somebody like Constantine who adulterated the faith because he was trying to please his subjects, so he added a lot of pagan beliefs, and the faith became bastardised, and you peoples still call that christianity , that is Christendom, so being a Catholic is very easy, being a JW is hard, we walk by faith not by sight, in Europe not just Germany, the trend is the same, people stop going to Church because they are fed up, sick and tired of the rubbish they do there. You will never go to any of our meetings any where on planet earth and you see a basket being passed around in the name of offering. I can stake my own head for that. Ndi oshi. Thieves. Babylon the great, Jehovah will use amargeddon to destroy Babylon the great, get out if her if you don't want to share in her sins, a word is enough for the wise.

cocoduck:
You don't know what you are talking about at all, Catholics have deviated from the faith, they did that a long time ago, about just after the death of the apostles, and they became wolves in sheep's clothing, somebody like Constantine who adulterated the faith because he was trying to please his subjects, so he added a lot of pagan beliefs, and the faith became bastardised, and you peoples still call that christianity , that is Christendom, so being a Catholic is very easy, being a JW is hard, we walk by faith not by sight, in Europe not just Germany, the trend is the same, people stop going to Church because they are fed up, sick and tired of the rubbish they do there. You will never go to any of our meetings any where on planet earth and you see a basket being passed around in the name of offering. I can stake my own head for that. Ndi oshi. Thieves. Babylon the great, Jehovah will use amargeddon to destroy Babylon the great, get out if her if you don't want to share in her sins, a word is enough for the wise.

U didn't answer my question you are are only spewing lies, hate and propaganda.

paulGrundy:


U didn't answer my question you are are only spewing lies, hate and propaganda.

abeg just shut up, blind man. JW does not belong to my father, what benefit is there for me to do propaganda? is it JW that puts food on my table? or pays my house rent, abeg disappear jor! Ndi ori, stealing and making money in the name of God, modern day Pharisees! Thieves,

cocoduck:
abeg just shut up, blind man. JW does not belong to my father, what benefit is there for me to do propaganda? is it JW that puts food on my table? or pays my house rent, abeg disappear jor! Ndi ori, stealing and making money in the name of God, modern day Pharisees! Thieves,

To present your organization in a good light. Most people do it, people tell lies to promote their church, just like you did earlier.

HardMirror:

I am an atheist so I don't really care. BUT that guy is a FUCcccKING LIAR. Don't know people could be so heartless and cook up lies like this.

THANKS FOR UR IMPUTE,....a private chat would also be appreciated, just want to innocently ask how hw life is being an athiest....

ALRIGHT THANKY FOR THE CLEARANCE ANYWAY,.. URE HIGHLY APPRECIATED

paulGrundy:


To present your organization in a good light. Most people do it, people tell lies to promote their church, just like you did earlier.

many people can tell lies to promote their church because they gain money or something especially financial from that church, JW does not pay me any money, the HQ where watchtower and awake are printed is in New York, I have never been there, nor do I hope to go there in this Satan's world, so, there is nothing material for me to gain, the only thing is that I am free from useless superstitious beliefs and traditions of men, and I see this world and the things happening in it differently, okay? I want others the think like wise, and you thieves know that it simply means less money in your filthy coffers, ndi oshi nwuru anwu, has any JW solicited for funds from you before? ndi ara.

Scholar8200:
For the records, Pastor W.F.Kumuyi got born again in 1964 at the Apostolic Faith and was with them and S.U. till the Bible study (circ 1973) started and later sunday services! That claim of him being a JW is in the same pattern as with the JW teachings.

The way people tell lies shamelessly is alarming. Imagine the guy claiming kumuyi was a JW and ran away with their money. Bloody lies!
I will never take any JW serious again thanks to that guy, Cockwhatever. So this is how they cook up lies. Hmmmm.

cocoduck:
you are a story teller, your kumuyi is a thief trying to cover his tracks and he is using people like you, who lack thinking capacity. You hate JWs but we will never hate you in return, okay? but haters gonn' hate potatoes gonn' potate

I have NEVER been a deeper lifer. In fact their holier than thou attitude pisses me off. I have been an atheist for about 5 years now. YOU ARE A LIAR! Get a life! Who even asked you about kumuyi's life? Why did you have to bring kumuyi into this discuss? Are you trying to distract people from the fact that people are moving from you mythology into other mythologies?

cocoduck:
abeg just shut up, blind man. JW does not belong to my father, what benefit is there for me to do propaganda? is it JW that puts food on my table? or pays my house rent, abeg disappear jor! Ndi ori, stealing and making money in the name of God, modern day Pharisees! Thieves,

You guys are all pretenders. Carry your fake bible and all your publications and knock on people's doors, but come online to show your true color, lying and insulting people.
Yet you knock on people's doors with a fake smile and pretend to be nice and all.
Same with deeper lifers. Shameless pretenders. You are full of hate and insecurity. Everybody is wrong. You guys think you know all the truth about life and every other person is ignorant.
Smh

HardMirror:

You guys are all pretenders. Carry your fake bible and all your publications and knock on people's doors, but come online to show your true color, lying and insulting people.
Yet you knock on people's doors with a fake smile and pretend to be nice and all.
Same with deeper lifers. Shameless pretenders. You are full of hate and insecurity. Everybody is wrong. You guys think you know all the truth about life and every other person is ignorant.
Smh

hahahahahahaha
If you see any JW for or house, Carry gun shoot am, rubbish.

HardMirror:

I have NEVER been a deeper lifer. In fact their holier than thou attitude pisses me off. I have been an atheist for about 5 years now. YOU ARE A LIAR! Get a life! Who even asked you about kumuyi's life? Why did you have to bring kumuyi into this discuss? Are you trying to distract people from the fact that people are moving from you mythology into other mythologies?

you guys think that there is anything special about leaving JWs. there is nothing at all special about it

cocoduck:
you guys think that there is anything special about leaving JWs. there is nothing at all special about it

lol, dont mind em

cocoduck:
many people can tell lies to promote their church because they gain money or something especially financial from that church

Financial motive is not the only motive

JW does not pay me any money, the HQ where watchtower and awake are printed is in New York, I have never been there, nor do I hope to go there in this Satan's world, so, there is nothing material for me to gain, the only thing is that I am free from useless superstitious beliefs and traditions of men, and I see this world and the things happening in it differently, okay? I want others the think like wise, and you thieves know that it simply means less money in your filthy coffers, ndi oshi nwuru anwu, has any JW solicited for funds from you before? ndi ara.

Ironic, you are proud of not adhering to "human traditions" but you see nothing wrong with telling lies about your enemies.

HardMirror:


The way people tell lies shamelessly is alarming. Imagine the guy claiming kumuyi was a JW and ran away with their money. Bloody lies!
I will never take any JW serious again thanks to that guy, Cockwhatever. So this is how they cook up lies. Hmmmm.

And the guy is still shameless standing by his lies, if someone like that stands at my door tommorow and claims what he is telling me is truth, I won't take him seriously.

paulGrundy:


And the guy is still shameless standing by his lies, if someone like that stands at my door tommorow and claims what he is telling me is truth, I won't take him seriously.

you can either take it or leave it
hate it or love it
it's a free world, did he point a gun at you saying if you don't listen I shoot? did he? Now you see how silly you are.

cocoduck:
you can either take it or leave it
hate it or love it
it's a free world, did he point a gun at you saying if you don't listen I shoot? did he? Now you see how silly you are.

Please how old are you?

paulGrundy:

Please how old are you?

qaudzillion

paulGrundy:

Please how old are you?

qaudzillion years taaa gbafuo

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cocoduck:
Then you don't know him
it was because of money he left JW, he was a top member in one congregation in Lagos, then they decided to contribute money to either to build or renovate a kingdom hall, as the secretary he was given the money and when the time arrived to bring the money, the guy begin yarn tory , then after all said and done he was sanctioned, he simply left and open his own church and began to castigate JWs, When we are preaching, we usually encounter deeper life people, the way they react when they see us is very different from the way other churches react to our visit, because of the lies they have been told, they don't even want to use eye to see us. I know what I am talking about bro. Maybe he was Catholic before he became JW. But he used to be a JW.

Pure lie and fabrication

cocoduck:
many people can tell lies to promote their church because they gain money or something especially financial from that church, JW does not pay me any money, the HQ where watchtower and awake are printed is in New York, I have never been there, nor do I hope to go there in this Satan's world, so, there is nothing material for me to gain, the only thing is that I am free from useless superstitious beliefs and traditions of men, and I see this world and the things happening in it differently, okay? I want others the think like wise, and you thieves know that it simply means less money in your filthy coffers, ndi oshi nwuru anwu, has any JW solicited for funds from you before? ndi ara.

They have asked me for contribution. They gave me a khaki envelope to put the money. They said the money is to help print more awake

Kumuyi was never a jw. Stop telling lies that you have been told.

singlealone:



They have asked me for contribution. They gave me a khaki envelope to put the money. They said the money is to help print more awake

O yes he was. You can't say a person is telling lies about someone you know nothing about.

singlealone:



They have asked me for contribution. They gave me a khaki envelope to put the money. They said the money is to help print more awake

O yes he was. You can't say a person is telling lies against someone you know nothing about

paulGrundy:


Financial motive is not the only motive



Ironic, you are proud of not adhering to "human traditions" but you see nothing wrong with telling lies about your enemies.

At your own risk bro. Jehovah's Witnesses don't solicit for favor. They don't chase the crowd. Believe or doubt at your own peril.
The only thing you know about Kumuyi is what you read on the internet, but you doubt a person who's telling you based on a real life experience, and still talk like you know him better. You think he will tell you that part of his story? Humans don't tell their dirty story.

cocoduck:
it's a free world bro, I know so many people like that, even your Kumuyi was a JW, the owner of GKS was a JW, there are many pastors today who were JWs, but you need a great faith to stay a JW because it is very difficult, even now if I want to open a church, I can. Even in my dad's family, my grand pa and grand ma are JW but all the men in that family except my dad stopped being JWs at one time or the other, and they are persecuting him for not joining them, denying him almost all his right, his inheritance and other things, but his doesn't care. So I respect him so much for that, and that is why I decided to stay.

When I got born again in my university days, my brother's wife used to claim that Pastor Kumuyi was a JW and was disfellowsipped. I really don't seee the reference in his biography. He was with Apostolic Faith where he was excommunicated in 1977. That time I was with Deeper Life and my in - law used to taunt me. I didn't argue with her.

There are similarities in Deeper Life' doctrines and Apostolic Faith's ; and similarities in JW and GKS's
Could someone just provide evidence that Kumuyi was an ex - JW?


cc: Olaadegbu

cocoduck:
Then you don't know him
it was because of money he left JW, he was a top member in one congregation in Lagos, then they decided to contribute money to either to build or renovate a kingdom hall, as the secretary he was given the money and when the time arrived to bring the money, the guy begin yarn tory , then after all said and done he was sanctioned, he simply left and open his own church and began to castigate JWs, When we are preaching, we usually encounter deeper life people, the way they react when they see us is very different from the way other churches react to our visit, because of the lies they have been told, they don't even want to use eye to see us. I know what I am talking about bro. Maybe he was Catholic before he became JW. But he used to be a JW.

Every story about him doesn't have your claim. He belonged to Apostolic Faith. Cam you provide reasonable evidences?