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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Nobody: 6:54pm On Apr 29, 2016 |
The perpetrators of this heinous act are yet to really defend themselves. Trust no one . #dissapointed 2 Likes |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 6:57pm On Apr 29, 2016 |
KayDawodu: [b]Its so sad hearing about your story with the feed, i remember the last time we chatted about some issues you were having using the feed.I want to use this medium to apologise to the affected farmers that didn't get a good result using the magnet feed. it really hurts me to see those i mentored talk about their displeasure about the feed.. it saddens me to read about issues some farmers earlier while using the feed. I remember we had some glitch on one particular batch of feed the pelleted feed. But we will keep improving on the feed until we get the desired result. A new version of the feed is out which is the new improved floating feed which we took a drastic step to ensure the feed passes all quality parameters. People have started using the improve version and the feedback has been remarkable so far. Concerning the customer service i am sorry to hear about your ordeal, though i am not directly in charge of it,i can't handle that coupled with questions i receive daily.. we have the whatsapp customers forum handled by someone else. i will have a good look into that section. I have been an advocate of transparency in fish farming business and i will never deter from it. Once again to those that where affected(lost money, time, resources) because of the feed, Robonski is deeply sorry about it, no words can adequately do justice to how i am deeply sorry about your plight. If i have envisaged a problem like this will arise because of me i would have renege from it, but we are all striving hard to achieved a common goal which making profit in fish business. I want to say a big thank you to the many individuals that has been sending me messages all day to encourage me, i do appreciate your deportment.[/b] 2 Likes |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by komakan(m): 7:17pm On Apr 29, 2016 |
robonski15:Robonski your write ups touch me seriously how I wish you are d one handling this biz alone without the involvement of that arrongant Soft. Soft almost abused my papa upon my money. As it is I will not say anything again or against. I am not a troublesome just that I hate when you think of playing over my inteligence. Best of luck! 2 Likes |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 7:46pm On Apr 29, 2016 |
I believe all has ended. Lets encourage ourselves so the best of everyone can show forth. God bless 1 Like |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by chilanfarms(m): 8:29pm On Apr 29, 2016 |
The needful I believe have been done, big up to Robonski... let d aggrieved embrace peace. Shithappensgetoverit! 1 Like |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by KayDawodu(m): 8:48pm On Apr 29, 2016 |
robonski15: I appreciate the gesture. That's all we were asking for Chief! What's done is done. Water under the bridge. I'm sure we've all learnt valuable lessons from this episode and it's made us all stronger. Please, for the sake of peace, help look into Jesset's issue. The guy seemed really distraught last Sunday. Thanks again for clearing this up |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by thompson1510(m): 9:24pm On Apr 29, 2016 |
125kg of powdered gelatin feed up for grab. @ a very cheap price. I have two 50kg bags and another 25kg. Shipping is free. Price is 8k per 50kg( NEGOTIABLE ). Thanks to all my ogas on this thread, I believe I dont need to say anything again concerning the feed since oga robonski don talk. All is well. Thank you all... |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by thompson1510(m): 9:26pm On Apr 29, 2016 |
125kg of powdered gelatin feed up for grab. @ a very cheap price. I have two 50kg bags and another 25kg. Shipping is free. Price is 8k per 50kg( NEGOTIABLE ). Thanks to all my ogas on this thread, I believe I dont need to say anything again concerning the feed since oga robonski don talk. All is well. Thank you all...@chilanfarms, abeg I wan buy juveniles, I need your contact. |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by miqos02(m): 9:57pm On Apr 29, 2016 |
Ttalk: |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by fidtopade: 10:11pm On Apr 29, 2016 |
robonski15:I base in Portharcourt. I am about starting a fish farm. If you don't mind I will like to have your contac for easy access. My email: fidtopade@yahoo.com |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 10:42pm On Apr 29, 2016 |
fidtopade: I just sent you an email sir. |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Ifedayour007(m): 12:50am On Apr 30, 2016 |
excelsiorfarm: You are really a genius sir. I so much love how you handled everything and God will continue to bless you. Please help me with the picture bellow, let me know if it's a right thing to do, I have some fish pond and I don't know if it's right to channel one pond into another. Please reply. Thanks..
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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by cleavon(m): 4:51am On Apr 30, 2016 |
[quote author=robonski15 post=45160862] [color=#000099][i] [b]Its so sad hearing about your story with the feed, i remember the last time we chatted about some issues you were having using the feed.I want to use this medium to apologise to the affected farmers that didn't get a good result using the magnet feed. it really hurts me to see those i mentored talk about their displeasure about the feed.. it saddens me to read about issues some farmers earlier while using the feed. I remember we had some glitch on one particular batch of feed the pelleted feed. But we will keep improving on the feed until we get the desired result. A new version of the feed is out which is the new improved floating feed which we took a drastic step to ensure the feed passes all quality parameters. People have started using the improve version and the feedback has been remarkable so far. "A glitch on batch of feed" and customers have to spend their hard earned resources, some even borrowed others from savings..anyway welcome to africa..I remember when toyota have issue with their latest brand of car..they have to order for withdrawal from those that have bought. That is integrity and transparency 1 Like |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by cleavon(m): 4:53am On Apr 30, 2016 |
robonski15: Thanks for bringing calmness back to the house..its good for everyone to have one house.. |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 8:11am On Apr 30, 2016 |
Ifedayour007:bros na so una go make man do error be that(laugh). There is no genius anywhere, Lets always give ALL THE GLORY TO GOD. Whatever a man has is given from God for the benefit of mankind. It is God that handled the issue, He touched all the hearts to forgive and move on, which no human can do. I had seen the picture, since you are not thinking of aerating the system, I would encourage that each tanks has its on inflow source for water. The reasons are the first tank closest to the water/the first ponds getting the supply of water will be at an advantage. I HAVE DONE IT SOMETIMES,BUT REASON WAS ESSENTIALLY BECAUSE OF WATER CHALLENGE. I keep the smallest fishes closest to the water source and arrange it in that sequence to the biggest. Alternatively I use the water from fingerlings/juveniles to service the bigger ones instead of flushing it out. Another issue is the case of disease, if it breaks out in one, with such a design, it could easily affect the whole stock. Best they are stand alone system and it would help to be able to diagnose challenges of each tank as a unit. Also to avoid possible stress that might occur when changing water. Provided you have good water source, I wont recommend it and if you don't have good water supply, get one before starting. With good water management, its makes you to be at an advantage, less disease i.e. even if any, your fishes eat well and growth will be better. In polluted environment fishes get sick, or even die and that isn't good for business. All the best and not buy more than your funds can feed adequately. Remember that it is always good to start small and get your own personal experience to decide the next stage you can successfully handle. Less i forget, for the prayers, Amen. |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Ifedayour007(m): 10:07am On Apr 30, 2016 |
excelsiorfarm: @excelsiorfarm: Big thanks boss, I really appreciate. I am thinking of using a well water as my water source, but I am not sure if well can serve all the ponds. I will go with your advice and have all the ponds with their different inflow of water. And @ oga Robonski15 it's so sad you stopped replying me on whatsapp, I understand you might be busy tho. But I would appreciate a reply from you, so I can learn and not make mistakes like I did 2 years ago with raising catfish. Thanks ... |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 10:41am On Apr 30, 2016 |
Ifedayour007:i am not your boss,if you are a farmer,it is colleague all of us be. I used well when i was at igando thruout,there was a nairalander that was based in france also used d same well thruout until his rentage expired & as far as i know that well was dug in 1994 & hasn't been any challenge until recently that someone that rented it said d volume of water isn't much & had to pack debris from it using a professional.I think that aspect depends on who digs it.festac t,ibadan well |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 10:50am On Apr 30, 2016 |
Ifedayour007:for robonski,text him if u have his number or visit agricnetwork.com,possibly a close associate could reach him.At times things are not exactly as we assume.I was in camp on day & one of my/our senior pastor said he had been sending whatsapp messages to me & no response.I told him i had not visited whatsapp for over a year & i wasn't there again.Just keep trying by using this forum/thread to reach him/ agricnetwork.com.Both are projects in his hands that he nurtures. |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by pumppie: 1:24pm On Apr 30, 2016 |
excelsiorfarm:Hello bro, so sorry for responding late been quite busy. And let me commend you for making efforts at realigning the focus of this thread. While sympathizing with those affected, I believe whatever damage has been done is now in the past and we can only move forward while learning from whatever mistakes. Let me briefly talk about the points you raised here; Runts: I’m sure most of us know what they are, but in simple term they are fishes that will never grow as expected no matter what the farmer does. Feed them with the best foreign feed, good water management etc, they will show little or no progress. Another variation of runts are those that will not feed well, and when your fishes are not feeding well they won’t grow. Farmers having runts as stocks usually spend more time on management and overhead cost on a particular production cycle without much or nothing to show for it in terms of results. Someone once came to me cos what he had were 10 months old and they were weighing between 200g and 350g! CAUSES: I will like to look at this from the following perspectives; 1. Genetics: I believe belexy has touched this, just to add that brood stocks with a poor genetic makeup will never give the right and needed quality seeds. 2. Human Factors: this is quite elaborate and where most farmers either mistakenly or deliberately get it wrong. Some breeders either due to lack of experience use brooders that are not MATURE this can greatly affect output and produce low quality fingerlings. Some don’t even care about the source and history of the brooders, I have heard of some going to the roadside mama eleja to buy fishes they instantly use. Such crude practice will not guarantee sufficient and quality seeds. Secondly, poor management/ feeding which may result in nutrients deficiency and also outbreak of diseases/ infections is also a major cause of having runts. Produce seeds in thousands and fail to feed adequately, the result will be kwashiorkor seeds very deficient in nutrients to make them grow well. Also, I have noticed that disease outbreak can affect your fries such that no matter how much treatment is given to them it is not uncommon to find some that will never recover fully and hence they remain runts. Thus, it’s better and safer to prevent disease outbreak and infection. Finally, the general health and physiological characteristics of brooders also have a great roles to play with relations to the quality of seeds. It is bad practice to use unhealthy or stressed brooders. This will not only affect hatching rate but may also produce low quality seeds. On the issue of HYBRID, a farmer does not have to make use of hybrid before he makes profit. In fact, some of the problems people are sharing on this thread for some days now may be partly due to the fact that some are looking for hybrid specie. Sometimes I even wonder why the craze for a special specie because in truth you can hardly find any that is not mixed with our traditional clarias spp. (I am not saying we don’t have hybrids pls). CLARIAS will do well in a reasonable period if best farm practice and methods are maintained. TABLE SIZE: the duration to attain table size depends on different factors such as; your target market, the quality of your seeds, stage of stocking, general farm management (feeding, water management etc). In sango otta for instance, they buy more of 500g to 800g and this can be achieved in at least 3 months plus. Thus your target market will determine ur targeted weight and duration. The stage at which your seeds are stocked whether fingerlings, post or juveniles can also determine the length of time to reach table size. Finally, farm practice and methods, like quality feed, seed, pond type/system and water management are all factors that will definitely determine the duration of harvest. Generally speaking, table size can be achieved between 3months and 6months depending on what weight and size you intend to attain. For me I don’t do more than 4 and half months max. |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by chilanfarms(m): 2:11pm On Apr 30, 2016 |
thompson1510:aii sir 07065874135 or 08076515345. |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by chilanfarms(m): 2:14pm On Apr 30, 2016 |
Ifedayour007:yes u can but mak sure the fish in the l pond is bigger/older dan d one b4 it and so on till d 1st pond wic will be d smallest. Hope u code? |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 2:40pm On Apr 30, 2016 |
@pumppie, indeed your contributions concerning d issue of RUNT is appreciated. you have honour d house with indepth information. Though we still expect other contributions that will aid everyone to know factors that influences runt & solutions in avoiding such. |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by kaffyfolly: 5:05pm On Apr 30, 2016 |
please sir I am a new comer in this business . u somehow sounded sure with your formula. I am about changing to local. I want to try your formula sir. hope I would regret sir. I would mind to have yr number sir. for confidential reason. u can send it to my box sir. alukofolly@yahoo.com. also this is my number 07038307221.I want to chat with u sir. I checked your fb but I could not find it. I need people of vast experience like u. I'm base in shagamu. hope to get from u. thanks sir |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by boomzee: 5:17pm On Apr 30, 2016 |
hi all, my novice question pls wot is d standard stocking rate for cats in a 9/16.5 tarpaulin pond and a 10/9 pond as well as a 8/10 pond. all for melange farming oh abeg.... lastly I will appreciate a low budget feed formulae frm juvenile to abt 2 and half month cos am targeting 350g.. low budget feed of #180/kilo max....... thanks in advance ! urgent oh !!!! |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by thompson1510(m): 5:52pm On Apr 30, 2016 |
boomzee:a little piece of advice Bro, use foreign feed for at least 1month before switching to local feed. You'll still get your profit if you do everything right. Am talking from experience which I learnt in a very bad way. And about the stocking rate, it has been discussed on this thread more than 10times, thats if you are ready to search the thread. Am sure some of my ogas will still answr you. Peace... |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 6:46pm On Apr 30, 2016 |
boomzee:i would encourage you to try to read thru, the answers you seek,u will be able to get by yourself.This would consolidate how you will be able to profer solutions to such questions in future.ABOUT URGENT?that is why many make mistakes. you need planning,before execution.Even if you have to go understudy someone.For 2.5 months for 350g, even a bad seed should almost be there.Word of advice: nothing urgent or important as patience. ABIX,ROBONSKI & others could enlighten u on getting a low price feed budget.it is at times good to start with foreign feed,especially when seeds foundation is faulty |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by pumppie: 8:06pm On Apr 30, 2016 |
boomzee:this thread is a sort of earth where treasure can be found but to get the treasure u need to dig deep patiently. There is always a price to pay for anything u wanna achieve. If d price to make u succede is to dig deep within d thread pls do because all what u seek lie in here. When someone told me about this thread, I assumed a novice and read patiently all thru its indeed an encyclopedia on catfish. Please its best u don't see catfish as a cheap business. In fact, I will employ us all farmers to really take time to plan what we want to achieve and d cost implications without short cuts first. I promised a melange model, I deliberately withheld it cos of d boiling issues on ground. I must say, my model is not cheap, but it gives over 100% ROA in 2and half months. Surprisingly one of my client even recorded success in 2months and 3 days. We can all improve on it. So bro, no hastyness abt this, stay calm and groove to ur success. Regards. 2 Likes |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Ifedayour007(m): 10:28pm On Apr 30, 2016 |
excelsiorfarm: Thanks so much @excelsiorfarm , I really appreciate. I will keep you posted here as I am progressing with setting up my farm and stocking. |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Ifedayour007(m): 10:33pm On Apr 30, 2016 |
chilanfarms: Yes I understand. Big thanks sir |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 10:41pm On Apr 30, 2016 |
Ifedayour007:Thank God, keep the house posted, we are at your service & we can also learn a thing or two in d process |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by TheARC: 11:24pm On Apr 30, 2016 |
Honestly my heart bleeds at the experiences of people. Why would someone sell runts or falsify key details about something as critical as crude protein level. Funny robonski never denied the allegation that stonedigital received magnetic feed of much less protein content than the acclaimed 60%. Profiting at another man's loss isn't wise or brotherly. Guess no friends in business. It is well! 1 Like |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by TheARC: 11:35pm On Apr 30, 2016 |
Regarding threats via phone calls, you can also install call recorders on your phone. I have a call recorder on all my phones for future reference or trying to recollect details. They save as mp3 so you can easily replay them and even send to appropriate quarters for further action. God bless us all 1 Like |
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