KayDawodu:
It's good we have people wading in now. This is my first time commenting on here after following the thread since early last year and I can absolutely tell you Robonski gave me new motivation to get back into this business. I contacted him from the very first day I got my stock last year and he gave me great insight. Water management and feeding technique and brand(Zeigler)
I've also learnt a lot from other posters on here but I can't name them all(too many to count). Free feed formula, free consultation and so on. What I'm trying to establish is simple; I don't believe Robonski is a bad person but I am almost certain his good will is being taken advantage of.
Having said all that, I'd like to chip in. I ordered for juveniles on 5th of January and I have to say, it's been a wild, hard ride for me. I got so excited about the Dutch F3, I got my parents in on it. Although my dad showed a lot of skepticism, mainly because I had to pay upfront and it was into the farm manager's account, my mum was very much excited as I was. To cut the long story short, After 15 days, I got fingerlings that looked like post fries with about 34 mortalities, after waiting the whole day. I immediately contacted soft to complain about the size, mortality and the fact I didn't get 1 single fish extra. He apologized but questioned why I had to count the fish immediately they brought them. He promised to refund the balance of the fingerlings(6000 naira) with 100 extra fingerlings to make up for the mortality but took a lot longer than I expected. I had to tell him to forget about the extra fingerlings. The amount of mortality I've experienced is unprecedented. I've been in this business for quite a while and it's never been this bad. I would have assumed full responsibility if this was my first culture period. I've never had to use antibiotics and multivitamins before until now. All that is neither here nor there.
As for the feed, I have to say, I'm glad I didn't introduce any other farmers to it. I struggled with it for 4 days before deciding to switch to foreign feed. The mistake I made was going back to the gelatin feed. It may have worked for some people but I have to be honest, it's not worth the trouble. Pollution is a major setback, the fish looked like they stagnated and I'm surprised I didn't stop using it earlier than I did. I complained to Robonski but he asked me to keep using it and that he also uses it on his farm and he gets marvelous results. Before then, I had contacted some people that used it and they had all stopped using it because they were not getting results.
I wasn't too keen on saying anything publicly(except for the Agricnetwork thread I opened, which was a bit light on information) but the way Soft treats complaints is really poor. You cant always blame the farmer for poor farming practices after they bought fish and feed from you. Getting on the defensive and arguing with the customer won't help your business one bit. You have to assume some kind of responsibility. As for those suggesting we are trying to sabotage his efforts or calling us "vagabonds", it's a tad unfair and an insult to other people's intelligence. We complained because we bought fish and feed from Soft and have used it. Why would anybody want to bring him down when we are not offering an alternative to his products?
He needs to sort out the problem and apologise to those affected. In fact, I had every intention of buying the new floating feed they're selling now but after this weekend's outbursts and behavior on Soft's part, I have decided to look elsewhere for my feed/formula.

robonski15:



[b]Its so sad hearing about your story with the feed, i remember the last time we chatted about some issues you were having using the feed.I want to use this medium to apologise to the affected farmers that didn't get a good result using the magnet feed. it really hurts me to see those i mentored talk about their displeasure about the feed.. it saddens me to read about issues some farmers earlier while using the feed.
I remember we had some glitch on one particular batch of feed the pelleted feed. But we will keep improving on the feed until we get the desired result. A new version of the feed is out which is the new improved floating feed which we took a drastic step to ensure the feed passes all quality parameters. People have started using the improve version and the feedback has been remarkable so far.

Concerning the customer service i am sorry to hear about your ordeal, though i am not directly in charge of it,i can't handle that coupled with questions i receive daily.. we have the whatsapp customers forum handled by someone else. i will have a good look into that section.
I have been an advocate of transparency in fish farming business and i will never deter from it. Once again to those that where affected(lost money, time, resources) because of the feed, Robonski is deeply sorry about it, no words can adequately do justice to how i am deeply sorry about your plight. If i have envisaged a problem like this will arise because of me i would have renege from it, but we are all striving hard to achieved a common goal which making profit in fish business.

I want to say a big thank you to the many individuals that has been sending me messages all day to encourage me, i do appreciate your deportment.[/b]

robonski15:



[b]Its so sad hearing about your story with the feed, i remember the last time we chatted about some issues you were having using the feed.I want to use this medium to apologise to the affected farmers that didn't get a good result using the magnet feed. it really hurts me to see those i mentored talk about their displeasure about the feed.. it saddens me to read about issues some farmers earlier while using the feed.
I remember we had some glitch on one particular batch of feed the pelleted feed. But we will keep improving on the feed until we get the desired result. A new version of the feed is out which is the new improved floating feed which we took a drastic step to ensure the feed passes all quality parameters. People have started using the improve version and the feedback has been remarkable so far.

Concerning the customer service i am sorry to hear about your ordeal, though i am not directly in charge of it,i can't handle that coupled with questions i receive daily.. we have the whatsapp customers forum handled by someone else. i will have a good look into that section.
I have been an advocate of transparency in fish farming business and i will never deter from it. Once again to those that where affected(lost money, time, resources) because of the feed, Robonski is deeply sorry about it, no words can adequately do justice to how i am deeply sorry about your plight. If i have envisaged a problem like this will arise because of me i would have renege from it, but we are all striving hard to achieved a common goal which making profit in fish business.

I want to say a big thank you to the many individuals that has been sending me messages all day to encourage me, i do appreciate your deportment.[/b]

Ttalk:


You give specification of what you want. Mine was 7.5 diesel engine a nd it drives both grinding and pelleting unit. It cost 150k but the price will increase if u are using higher engine like 9.5, 11 00, 11 10, 11 15 etc

robonski15:


Thank you very much sir, i appreciate.. Where is your location?

fidtopade:
I base in Portharcourt. I am about starting a fish farm. If you don't mind I will like to have your contac for easy access. My email: fidtopade@yahoo.com

excelsiorfarm:
I believe all has ended. Lets encourage ourselves so the best of everyone can show forth. God bless

robonski15:



[b]Its so sad hearing about your story with the feed, i remember the last time we chatted about some issues you were having using the feed.I want to use this medium to apologise to the affected farmers that didn't get a good result using the magnet feed. it really hurts me to see those i mentored talk about their displeasure about the feed.. it saddens me to read about issues some farmers earlier while using the feed.
I remember we had some glitch on one particular batch of feed the pelleted feed. But we will keep improving on the feed until we get the desired result. A new version of the feed is out which is the new improved floating feed which we took a drastic step to ensure the feed passes all quality parameters. People have started using the improve version and the feedback has been remarkable so far.

Concerning the customer service i am sorry to hear about your ordeal, though i am not directly in charge of it,i can't handle that coupled with questions i receive daily.. we have the whatsapp customers forum handled by someone else. i will have a good look into that section.
I have been an advocate of transparency in fish farming business and i will never deter from it. Once again to those that where affected(lost money, time, resources) because of the feed, Robonski is deeply sorry about it, no words can adequately do justice to how i am deeply sorry about your plight. If i have envisaged a problem like this will arise because of me i would have renege from it, but we are all striving hard to achieved a common goal which making profit in fish business.

I want to say a big thank you to the many individuals that has been sending me messages all day to encourage me, i do appreciate your deportment.[/b]

Ifedayour007:



You are really a genius sir. I so much love how you handled everything and God will continue to bless you. Please help me with the picture bellow, let me know if it's a right thing to do, I have some fish pond and I don't know if it's right to channel one pond into another. Please reply. Thanks..

excelsiorfarm:
bros na so una go make man do error be that(laugh). There is no genius anywhere, Lets always give ALL THE GLORY TO GOD. Whatever a man has is given from God for the benefit of mankind. It is God that handled the issue, He touched all the hearts to forgive and move on, which no human can do.

I had seen the picture, since you are not thinking of aerating the system, I would encourage that each tanks has its on inflow source for water. The reasons are the first tank closest to the water/the first ponds getting the supply of water will be at an advantage. I HAVE DONE IT SOMETIMES,BUT REASON WAS ESSENTIALLY BECAUSE OF WATER CHALLENGE. I keep the smallest fishes closest to the water source and arrange it in that sequence to the biggest. Alternatively I use the water from fingerlings/juveniles to service the bigger ones instead of flushing it out.

Another issue is the case of disease, if it breaks out in one, with such a design, it could easily affect the whole stock. Best they are stand alone system and it would help to be able to diagnose challenges of each tank as a unit.

Also to avoid possible stress that might occur when changing water. Provided you have good water source, I wont recommend it and if you don't have good water supply, get one before starting.

With good water management, its makes you to be at an advantage, less disease i.e. even if any, your fishes eat well and growth will be better.
In polluted environment fishes get sick, or even die and that isn't good for business.

All the best and not buy more than your funds can feed adequately. Remember that it is always good to start small and get your own personal experience to decide the next stage you can successfully handle.


Less i forget, for the prayers, Amen.

Ifedayour007:




@excelsiorfarm: Big thanks boss, I really appreciate. I am thinking of using a well water as my water source, but I am not sure if well can serve all the ponds. I will go with your advice and have all the ponds with their different inflow of water. And @ oga Robonski15 it's so sad you stopped replying me on whatsapp, I understand you might be busy tho. But I would appreciate a reply from you, so I can learn and not make mistakes like I did 2 years ago with raising catfish. Thanks ...

Ifedayour007:




@excelsiorfarm: Big thanks boss, I really appreciate. I am thinking of using a well water as my water source, but I am not sure if well can serve all the ponds. I will go with your advice and have all the ponds with their different inflow of water. And @ oga Robonski15 it's so sad you stopped replying me on whatsapp, I understand you might be busy tho. But I would appreciate a reply from you, so I can learn and not make mistakes like I did 2 years ago with raising catfish. Thanks ...

excelsiorfarm:
gurus in d house , lets discuss runts,what causes it, must a farmer use hybrid to make profit, is it impossible to make gain using clarias spp, how long should it take to get to table size & any other related issue that comes to mind.


PLS DON'T COME AND PULL ANYONE DOWN, DON'T COME TO MARKET YOUR PRODUCTS ALSO.

Just let us have your take on this.

Abix,Belexyfarms,pumppie,juve,every fish farmers pls lets read your view point, it will give a lot of education to all

thompson1510:
125kg of powdered gelatin feed up for grab. @ a very cheap price. I have two 50kg bags and another 25kg. Shipping is free. Price is 8k per 50kg( NEGOTIABLE ). Thanks to all my ogas on this thread, I believe I dont need to say anything again concerning the feed since oga robonski don talk. All is well. Thank you all...@chilanfarms, abeg I wan buy juveniles, I need your contact.

Ifedayour007:



You are really a genius sir. I so much love how you handled everything and God will continue to bless you. Please help me with the picture bellow, let me know if it's a right thing to do, I have some fish pond and I don't know if it's right to channel one pond into another. Please reply. Thanks..

boomzee:
hi all,
my novice question
pls wot is d standard stocking rate for cats in a 9/16.5 tarpaulin pond
and a 10/9 pond
as well as a 8/10 pond.
all for melange farming oh abeg....
lastly I will appreciate a low budget feed formulae frm juvenile to abt 2 and half month cos am targeting 350g..
low budget feed of #180/kilo max.......
thanks in advance
!
urgent oh !!!!

boomzee:
hi all,
my novice question
pls wot is d standard stocking rate for cats in a 9/16.5 tarpaulin pond
and a 10/9 pond
as well as a 8/10 pond.
all for melange farming oh abeg....
lastly I will appreciate a low budget feed formulae frm juvenile to abt 2 and half month cos am targeting 350g..
low budget feed of #180/kilo max.......
thanks in advance
!
urgent oh !!!!

boomzee:
hi all,
my novice question
pls wot is d standard stocking rate for cats in a 9/16.5 tarpaulin pond
and a 10/9 pond
as well as a 8/10 pond.
all for melange farming oh abeg....
lastly I will appreciate a low budget feed formulae frm juvenile to abt 2 and half month cos am targeting 350g..
low budget feed of #180/kilo max.......
thanks in advance
!
urgent oh !!!!

excelsiorfarm:
i am not your boss,if you are a farmer,it is colleague all of us be. I used well when i was at igando thruout,there was a nairalander that was based in france also used d same well thruout until his rentage expired & as far as i know that well was dug in 1994 & hasn't been any challenge until recently that someone that rented it said d volume of water isn't much & had to pack debris from it using a professional.I think that aspect depends on who digs it.festac t,ibadan well

chilanfarms:
yes u can but mak sure the fish in the l pond is bigger/older dan d one b4 it and so on till d 1st pond wic will be d smallest. Hope u code?

Ifedayour007:



Thanks so much @excelsiorfarm , I really appreciate. I will keep you posted here as I am progressing with setting up my farm and stocking.