delishpot:


It ties her down. She said he is free to see his child but OP says child belongs to the man. So what does that do to tiwa? Should she leave the child and go? She has stated that he has access to his child recognizing his rights as a father towards his child. What more should she do?
Child belongs to both parents. This is why I advice parents to collect #1 bride price so if the man starts forming I spent my money to marry you, you just slap his face with his yeye bride price and kick his ass out.
No be force Na. She wants to move on let her be.

small small children everywhere

nonhuman:
small small children everywhere

Because I said a woman should have equal rights over the kids she carried for 9months or because I said nobody should force an innocent partner to remain in an unhappy marriage or because I said bride price should be returned to an unserious and abusive husband?

Perhaps this joker grandson soyemi can tell us why teebillz is not with his other children. What does Yoruba customary law have to say about that?

I read parts of awos memoirs as a child. His dad died when he was young, and the brothers split all the mans possessions. One even wanted to inherit awos mum. All awo got was an old shirt of his dad's.

It's only people who are ultra failures that love to fall back to 'tradition'. Has teebillz been paying support for his other kids?

This joker should shut up. Tradition my arse.

FrancisTony:
But you want the child to grow up and be like shameless Teebillz, right?
I wonder Teebillz and Tiwa, who is better off. Adultery he accused Tiwa of, he ain't innocuous, either. Tiwa is better off in all ramifications.

Hey, Junior

scully95:


You want to tell me Tiwa did not know before she ran into it right ? Ok let assume she does not know.

To get to the bottom of it all, you need to look into what went on in LA. When tiwa was a no one and was fcking every man's dick way up.

I guess T balogun must have loved the fckings and so put his everything with the hope of making the best from her.

But see how things turned out... First of all sacking T balogun is more or less like removing the connecting rope between the two or the relationship which is based on mutual business in the first place.

If she did not remove his only life wire, I bet he wont go around begging for money. 45m here..

Accoding to Tiwa, I am even sure those that dropped that kind of money must be servicing her cos she's the loose girl and there is element of truth in everyting T Balogun said about her..

I know this family very well. Teebillz's father is a big boy to the call was formally running all the computer prices in Computer villiage before he diversified to real estate.


T Balogun is a spoilt child and the type that would never beg Tiwa. Things fell apart for him. Rewind to LA,Teebillz is a big boy to the call that has Office in LA. Do you know what it means to have an office down town LA and decided to sell everything because of one girl and the girl now decided to remove his only life wire ?

The issue she said about diverting money could be resolved. Why kill he cat for removing just the eyes from the big fish ?
Someone mostly pushed her to do that..Those people will push her to her fall finally.

where you there when it was all going down in LA and did tiwa savage hold juju over teebillz head to leave life in the US for Nigeria? Since you seem to know more about their relationship

delishpot:
Yes. The custom of enslavement. Later you guys come here to wonder why our mothers and foremothers never left their abusive and sad marriages. This is the reason why. The custom made sure to tie a woman down to a man one way or the other.man.
If she left the child as custom wants to force her to do, it's still those same hypocrites that will say she abandoned her baby and left the marriage. If she wants to carry her baby and leave those same people will say according to custom she should leave baby with the man. How then can a woman escape an unhappy and abusive marriage?

I see your point. but I want you to know this........

Not all our foremothers were in abusive relationships. There were good and bad men then, just as they are now.

I hope you understand

adeaks:
I have never heard of a Yoruba Customary Marriage Act before. Which of the Yoruba states passed the act into law? Who signed it?

In any case, Tiwa and Tbillz were married under the Marriage Act and she has filed for divorce accordingly. The divorce proceedings will be done according to the Marriage Act and not any phantom Yoruba Cust. Marr. Act.

The only thing I am wondering is; since Tbillz is the party who is jobless and earns less, will he ask the court to award him maintenance from Tiwa ?

He is free to. It is marriage, he also invested his time in it before now. So he should ask if he thinks he should.

Abeg what is Yoruba tradition on all these Omo ale our yeyebrities are throwing up everywhere?

I think u do. Ur mentality requires d type of advice i offered u. Go and ask questions from d women whose marriage were sustained. Can d so called does that if her husband happens to be in her position. If it were to be me, i will go and do agbero at oshodi oke to cater for my family. Tah!..

delishpot:


You are welcome. I appreciate your pity unfortunately it is not needed. I wish you saved it for someone who really needed it.

herald9:

Hey, Junior

How are you, senior?

FrancisTony:

But you want the child to grow up and be like shameless Teebillz, right?

I wonder Teebillz and Tiwa, who is better off.
Adultery he accused Tiwa of, he ain't innocuous, either.
Tiwa is better off in all ramifications.

The chances are TeeBillz will have his parent take good care of the child which is the best thing to do here or if he gets married on time to another woman. Then all things being equal.

I am very sure why the helders decided this is because kids learn faster from their mother and it's the reason they say mother's tongue. Meaning no matter what Language the father speaks to the kid, it is the mother's language or tongue he or she will grab first.

For that reason i think kids will learn faster to be a prostitute living with mother than living with father. By the way Tiwa neither has time for the Huband nor the kid. So what are we saying ?

Registry wedding takes precedent over customary marriage before the law so the all the talks about the customary marriage is a nullity. Furthermore, kindly desist from drawing conclusions about issues you aren't privy to; only He who wears the shoe knows where it pinches

scully95:


Where did you see how it tied them down ? So you did not learn anything from the write up ? It only says Child belongs to the Father. it did not tie anyone to anywhere. It's only sensible to try to work things out irrespective of issues. The case of Tiwa is totally different and op decided to react to the part she said about the Kid cos that is the only rope left tieing them together after tiwa removed the Business rope by sacking her manager, her husband over a small issue that could be resolved via other ways.

Too hor*y to read this crap!

olalat:
I think u do. Ur mentality requires d type of advice i offered u. Go and ask questions from d women whose marriage were sustained. Can d so called does that if her husband happens to be in her position. If it were to be me, i will go and do agbero at oshodi oke to cater for my family. Tah!..

Dem Dey force person to take advice again? If only you knew. Oh well, I Don hear. you have tried. At least you aired your opinion. You have been noticed.

scully95:


Who is talking about bride price here ? The Child belonging to the Father, means it used the rope to tie the wife down to the father right ? If the wife wants to go here, she's also free to go. So what's the point ?

How did that tie the wife down to the Husband ? She can also visit but the father will have full custody of the child (especially when it's one child) and when Child grows up to 18 he or she can decide where to go.


And this is simply because of Ladies generally. Single ladies in Yoruba land are always suspected to be fcking about anyhow or some even turn prostitutes. (Even when they are married they are still fcking abt carelessely, and kids learn very fast from them especially when these kids are not with their fathers or the two living together)

So you expect the kid here to grow up and be like her mother right ? Again this is not London or Uk or even Russia where they have a different culture. This is Yoruba land and the helders must have seen a lot before coming to this conclusion.

If we are to even go by your idealism of slavery, it's catholic here that is doing that. As we speak it's almost impossible to get a divorce and marry again in Catholic church.
What is that ?

The bible is the standard of which the Catholic faith stand by however if either party's live is threatened, temporary saperation come in giving the couple space / time to work on themselves.
Please note also that divorce can be granted if it was confirm that marriage was initially base on dicit, such as no full disclosure of some certain serious issue that would have been brought to light and agreed upon by both couples if the union should take place.

Ugosample:


I see your point. but I want you to know this........

Not all our foremothers were in abusive relationships. There were good and bad men then, just as they are now.

I hope you understand

Was not talking about the good ones. I never said all of the men we're bad.

FrancisTony:
How are you, senior?

Hehehe.. What's up man... You just disappeared with your school
Are you on break?

How old is the child in question sir? who in the husbands family is ready to take responsibility for the child? Enough of all these funny borseeing on asinine comments on someone's unfortunate life event.

If not for money and material need, majority of Nigerian women won't marry any man! #FACT

If TeeBillz had money, Tiwa wouldn't have disgraced him the way she did...2face Idibia, Danjuma, Late MKO Abiola, Late Abacha, Shino Peters, etc are more irresponsible than Teebillz but still, their wives and concubines who are prettier and hotter than Tiwa Savage times 2 condone them and even defend their cheating and irresponsible lifestyles!

If you are a guy or man reading this, please listen up: you are dead to women if you don't have money as a man...but you are the most loving, caring and faithful man to women so long as you have the money!

Women are smarter than men of today, too bad....women screen men based on how much they have but men screen women based on inconsequential physical beauty that fades the moment u get the woman to be yours.

It's high time Nigerian men wake up and start dating and marrying women based on how much they (women) have too....divorce her if she looses her job! divorce her if she fails to contribute to the family upkeep! Don't marry her if she doesn't have a good job, not from a rich family and not earning big income! Nigerian men wake up! Nigerian ladies are taking u Nigerian men for a fool!

A Nigerian guy will be rich and go marry one broke girl and turn her life and that of her family around for good....but no rich Nigerian lady agrees to date or marry an average-income Nigerian guy....and if she dares, she must be too old and ugly! and must be controlling the poor guy's life like a remote controlled CCTV camera!

Guys wake up!

Ini Edo only divorced her husband because things became bad for him financially and he started depending on Ini Edo for money...the same thing is happening now between Tiwa and TeeBilllz, why? because Nigerian women are only after money and once the man can't dish out the money like before, he's dead and gone!

If Omotola's husband was broke, Omotola would have divorced him long time ago...same with Stephanie Okereke, etc...to these women, it's all about the money!

Davido was right: life to Nigerian women is all about the money and nothing else!

Have u guys ever wondered why Linda Ikeji, Genevieve Nnaji, Rita Domnic, Funke Akindele, etc are all single It's simply because they are waiting for Dangote son or some billionaire to marry them and squander more money on them!

They don't want to settle down with an average-income earner or ordinary millionaire guy, they want billionaires, shame on Nigerian women and their mad love for money!!

Nigerian guys wake up too! Don't date or marry a broke girl again! If your wife was working and looses her job, pls divorce her asap and marry a richer lady, simple!!!

Let's all join the women and play the game too!

scully95:


The chances are TeeBillz will have his parent take good care of the child which is the best thing to do here or if he gets married on time to another woman. Then all things being equal.

I am very sure why the helders decided this is because kids learn faster from their mother and it's the reason they say mother's tongue. Meaning no matter what Language the father speaks to the kid, it is the mother's language or tongue he or she will grab first.

For that reason i think kids will learn faster to be a prostitute living with mother than living with father. By the way Tiwa neither has time for the Huband nor the kid. So what are we saying ?

Your post is laughable.

If I may ask, how come Teebillz mother you painted as Mother Theresa the second wasn't able to raise a responsible non-philandering son?

scully95:


This is Yoruba land and the helders must have seen a lot before coming to this conclusion.

My chairman, even in writing .

Welcome to group of baby mamas. Chikena!

scully95:


Who is talking about bride price here ? The Child belonging to the Father, means it used the rope to tie the wife down to the father right ? If the wife wants to go here, she's also free to go. So what's the point ?

How did that tie the wife down to the Husband ? She can also visit but the father will have full custody of the child (especially when it's one child) and when Child grows up to 18 he or she can decide where to go.


And this is simply because of Ladies generally. Single ladies in Yoruba land are always suspected to be fcking about anyhow or some even turn prostitutes. (Even when they are married they are still fcking abt carelessely, and kids learn very fast from them especially when these kids are not with their fathers or the two living together)

So you expect the kid here to grow up and be like her mother right ? Again this is not London or Uk or even Russia where they have a different culture. This is Yoruba land and the helders must have seen a lot before coming to this conclusion.

If we are to even go by your idealism of slavery, it's catholic here that is doing that. As we speak it's almost impossible to get a divorce and marry again in Catholic church.
What is that ?

kinda understand your points but you need to slow down a bit and consider this case. TJ doesn't have a regular income, we need no prophet to tell us he is going through psychological trauma. what If all Tiwa's allegations are true? what if the guy is on drugs? leave the boy with him in the name of culture? The western people you cited as an example doesn't give custody to the mother or father automatically, but they examine the parents and then decide who is fit to take care of a child. now, that is commonsense at play. is our culture so devoid of commonsense that the custody of a child will be awarded to an irresponsible parent cause it it is automatic?

Sapphire86:
OP, are you and TJ smoking cocaine together cuz this is pure trash!!

Am telling u ths OP mst be under influence of somthng hw can he write this long epistle without common sense......pls Op needs serious prayers and attention befor himself go jump for third mainland bridge!

delishpot:
Yes. The custom of enslavement. Later you guys come here to wonder why our mothers and foremothers never left their abusive and sad marriages. This is the reason why. The custom made sure to tie a woman down to a man one way or the other.man.
If she left the child as custom wants to force her to do, it's still those same hypocrites that will say she abandoned her baby and left the marriage. If she wants to carry her baby and leave those same people will say according to custom she should leave baby with the man. How then can a woman escape an unhappy and abusive marriage?

Who are those giving those advice you are talking about? Aren't they same bad wife materials lime you. Abeg,go sit down.

herald9:

Hehehe.. What's up man... You just disappeared with your school

Are you on break?

Yeah, I can't keep up with both.

I was on strike but I am resuming back on Tuesday.

no offence, if your mum had divorced your dad, where would you have been today.

scully95:


The chances are TeeBillz will have his parent take good care of the child which is the best thing to do here or if he gets married on time to another woman. Then all things being equal.

I am very sure why the helders decided this is because kids learn faster from their mother and it's the reason they say mother's tongue. Meaning no matter what Language the father speaks to the kid, it is the mother's language or tongue he or she will grab first.

For that reason i think kids will learn faster to be a prostitute living with mother than living with father. By the way Tiwa neither has time for the Huband nor the kid. So what are we saying ?

considering the fantastic job the grandparents did with tbillz i can see how that would turn out. everything you've said has just painted tbillz mother in a VERY bad light, since as you say kids learn faster from the mother.

if in tbillz parents in their youth, in much simpler times could not raise a responsible kid, who says they can do so in their old age in these times?

your post reeks of misognystic patriachry - a tbillz who we have never seen with his other children, who is little better than an indebted crackhead has the potential to be a good father. wetin we no go hear ?

rubbish... so Tiwa should keep swallowing shit from a riff raff husband?

scully95:


The chances are TeeBillz will have his parent take good care of the child which is the best thing to do here or if he gets married on time to another woman. Then all things being equal.

I am very sure why the helders decided this is because kids learn faster from their mother and it's the reason they say mother's tongue. Meaning no matter what Language the father speaks to the kid, it is the mother's language or tongue he or she will grab first.

For that reason i think kids will learn faster to be a prostitute living with mother than living with father. By the way Tiwa neither has time for the Huband nor the kid. So what are we saying ?

just ignore my initial post, can see you are more sentimental about this issue than logical. do you know why some guys are abusive today? they saw their father abusing and dehumanising their mother. dunno where our get the theory of a child learning faster from the mother than from the father from but it is dumb and shallow. both the father and the mother owns the child, but in case of separation, where ever the child goes to, hebor she carries the name and identity of the father. why should we a child who have a mother that is capable of providing care be left with a relative if the incapable husband, I mean, what happens to logic. I learnt my father's dialect first, but grammarian called first language mother's tongue, so now, my father's language is my mother tongue, see that?

ourchoice:


If TeeBillz had money, Tiwa wouldn't have disgraced him the way she did...2face Idibia, Danjuma, Late MKO Abiola, Late Abacha, Shino Peters, etc are more irresponsible than Teebillz but still, their wives and concubines who are prettier and hotter than Tiwa Savage times 2 condone them and even defend their cheating and irresponsible lifestyles!

My brother, is there a greater irresponsibility than not providing for one's family?

Her husband took the matter to the marketplace. She was merely trying to salvage what's left of her image.

scully95:


Where did you see how it tied them down ? So you did not learn anything from the write up ? It only says Child belongs to the Father. it did not tie anyone to anywhere. It's only sensible to try to work things out irrespective of issues. The case of Tiwa is totally different and op decided to react to the part she said about the Kid cos that is the only rope left tieing them together after tiwa removed the Business rope by sacking her manager, her husband over a small issue that could be resolved via other ways.

which nonsense father?? is he fit to raise a child,to hell with your stupid tradition