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Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by analice107: 4:50pm On Apr 30, 2016
najib632:
Go and read more of history because you are trying to say that Abraham and Ishmael didn't build the Ka'aba. You are trying to make Islam look like a fake religion well suit yourself God gave every Human a Choice. let me also ask you a question what is the word Arab christians use for God?
Guy, am not trying to make Islam look fake, Islam is fake. Muhammed was a fake/false prophet whom Jesus warned about before he went to heaven.

Boy, do you know what Plagiarism means?

Let me tell you a little about the origin or your religion.
Muhammed was orphaned at a very early age, he was next in line as a chief priest to his family God, allahh. Meanwhile, then there were so many gods and all those gods where kept in the same place, called the Ka'aba. Everyone goes there to worship their own god.
A time came for mohammmed to step in and take his father's place as a chief priest. By this time he was married to a Catholic convert Kadijat. On three occasion, a presence over- powered him, pinning him to the ground demanding him to recite the incantations to allahh. But he didn't know them, because as at then he didn't know about Allah.
The torment was unbearable, one day he decided to kill himself by throwing himself down a cliff, because he couldn't afford to live as a demon possessed. Kadijat sent for him, her messengers found him contemplating suicide. He was brought back home. He told Kadijat what he had been experiencing.
Then Allah's Apostle returned with his head beaten severely. Then he went to Kadijat, and said, "Cover me, cover me!" then they covered him till his fear was over then he told them everything and said "I fear that something may happen to me, Kadijat said," Never! By Allah, Allah will never disgrace you. Kadijat then accompanied him to her cousin Waraqa Nawfal...

She took him to see her cousin, who at the time was also a Catholic convert, but was mixing Catholicism with Arabic traditional beliefs. His name was Waraqa bin Nawfal. He was a soothsayer. Like the Muslims Alfa. Half christian half native doctor. There was no Islam then.
When Nawfal enquired from Muhammed as to What has been happened, Muhammed explained his ordeal, Waraqa quickly concluded that it was Angel Gabriel who was trying to give Muhammed a message from God. He went on to tell him about the God of the Bible and how God sends Angels with messages. That was how the Prophethood of Muhammed was proclaimed. Nawfal was the one who called Muhammed a Prophet. It was Nawfal who told Muhammed that the entity tormenting Muhammed was Gabriel. When you read the Koran, you see similarities with the Bible. It was Nawfal. Muhammed became a student under Nawfal. He taught Muhammed things about Christians and Jews
Today the Islamic world hides that aspect of Muhammed but claim to Koran came from God, its a lie. It was Waraqa who helped Muhammed copy from the Bible and other books to make up the Koran.
Read through your Koran, you will never come across anywhere, where the Jibril introduced himself to Muhammed as an Angel from God.
But Nawfal, made some mistakes. You when you are lie, you have to keep lying to cover the first lie. Waraqa forgot to tell Muhammed that Angel Gabriel will always put fear off from anyone he wishes to give a message to. But this entity almost killed Muhammed.
Gabriel never had body contact with anyone, never even once. But this jibril pressed Muhammed's neck down to the point of choking life out of him.

(The truth descended upon him while he was a cave of Hiram. The Angel came and asked him to read,, the Prophet said 'I do not know how to read. The prophet added, the Angel caught me forcefully and pressed me so hard that I could not bear it anymore). Gabriel never did that to anyone.

Waraqa wasn't careful to tell Muhammed that, those who Angel Gabriel talked to were not prophets but just people who needed guidance. God spoke and still speaks to his Prophets personally. From God's mouth to the Prophet's ears. But Jibril was the one who spoke to Muhammed from start to finish.
There's more, but let me stop here for now.
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by true2god: 4:52pm On Apr 30, 2016
najib632:
Sigh May God help you, you lack sense dats why I won't even say anything to you thank God Jesus is coming soon all of you that worshipped him would be ashamed of yourselves.
Strange a muslim appealing to christian that Jesus is coming soon. You are getting there bro, soon you will realize that mohammed was a fake and false prophet whose means of livelihood was warring against non-muslims and dispossessing them of their properties, and all his criminal activities sanctioned by allahh.
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by analice107: 4:55pm On Apr 30, 2016
najib632:
Go and read more of history because you are trying to say that Abraham and Ishmael didn't build the Ka'aba. You are trying to make Islam look like a fake religion well suit yourself God gave every Human a Choice. let me also ask you a question what is the word Arab christians use for God?
Christians everywhere in the world knows that God's name is Yahweh or Jehovah. If they refer to Him as Allah, they do that in ignorance. It's not a matter of language, it's all about what the God/gods do.
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by analice107: 4:57pm On Apr 30, 2016
SnakeXenzia:
i'm laughing
The sun will burn your teeth.
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by analice107: 4:59pm On Apr 30, 2016
najib632:
Sigh May God help you, you lack sense dats why I won't even say anything to you thank God Jesus is coming soon all of you that worshipped him would be ashamed of yourselves.
Oh thank God Jesus is coming soon. Oh my God, a Muslim is looking forward to Jesus coming. Do you even know what that means? With all the Christ's followers that muslims have killed. I can't believe this.
A Muslim is using the coming of my Saviour to threaten me. See Satan.
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by analice107: 5:04pm On Apr 30, 2016
Blackfire:



and those who don't, suffers, funny enough they will still rope us in there trouble.
I ve to buy new line and switched off the other line, if u help it ain't enough, if u don't, u are stingy or the lady u are dating is the one remote controlling u like mumu.

Anyway me i always see opportunities in every odds.. Like my igbo people will say 'obodo adiro nma, uru ndi nze'
Na wa sha. What you said is true. If you give, it's too small, if you don't you are stingy. What shd we do now? Right now, I face my parents. Make everybody hustle. We are all strong and able.
But now is the time to give to the needy more. But the needy will so increase.
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by najib632(m): 5:05pm On Apr 30, 2016
true2god:
Strange a muslim appealing to christian that Jesus is coming soon. You are getting there bro, soon you will realize that mohammed was a fake and false prophet whose means of livelihood was warring against non-muslims and dispossessing them of their properties, and all his criminal activities sanctioned by allahh.
Guy My religion is a continuation of Judaism and christianity were u thinking that we didn't like Jesus A.S. or what? I can never insult him he is a Great messenger of Allah and he will come back and disgrace you people for changing his teachings.
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by Nobody: 6:24pm On Apr 30, 2016
lexiconkabir:


Actually the word is gēn, so basically you are giving us the answer of a desperate Christian apologist.

http://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/7.htm



Thats the accurate translation? How come ive not seen a single translation that says this? Your are desperate you know? When will you give us your own translation of the bible?



Prove the embolden





Ok let me get this straight, all the bibles mistranslated?



Yoy don't have problem with this fairy tell, but you have problem with muslims believing in some things that you allege as error.





Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! It has no commander, no overseer or ruler yet it stores its provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest.

Thats the verse in question, as you can see it refers to a particular ant not ants in general.....

You are yet to answer this sef

John 12:24 "I tell you the truth, unless a kernel of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it remains only a single seed. But if it dies, it produces many seeds." Lolzzz, cheesy That is scientifically false. The dead seed does not produce new seeds





No! "
gen
" is the Greek word for "earth" and it also means "land" while "arets" which I posted earlier is the Hebrew word. The Greek word also means "land", so my point actually makes sense.



Translators have failed to pick correct terms which convey the original messages.
if I had the chance, I would make my own translation.



I will come back to the embolden



Not all Bibles are mistranslated, there are those you probably have not found out about.




That is not a fairy tale but a prophecy, but your belief in the existence
of an invisible race known as Jinns is just laughable bro!!!!!! There is a difference between symbolism and fairy tales and yours is a clear representation of the latter.



By the word ant it is actually referring to all ants and not a particular specie if that is what you are implying. There are instances when the Bible used "man" to refer to all humans and not to a single man.


The word translated as "seed" refers to "fruits" or "grains." Note, it refers to "wheat" which is a grain and "dying" in the sense of being buried as a dead person, so truly the dead seed produces new grain.
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by Blackfire(m): 8:58pm On Apr 30, 2016
analice107:

Oh thank God Jesus is coming soon. Oh my God, a Muslim is looking forward to Jesus coming. Do you even know what that means? With all the Christ's followers that muslims have killed. I can't believe this.
A Muslim is using the coming of my Saviour to threaten me. See Satan.


they believed when there isa(not Jesus) comes he will break the cross into pieces, go crazy on all the pigs in the world.... I can go on and on but let me find what to eat this night.
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by Blackfire(m): 9:02pm On Apr 30, 2016
analice107:

Christians everywhere in the world knows that God's name is Yahweh or Jehovah. If they refer to Him as Allah, they do that in ignorance. It's not a matter of language, it's all about what the God/gods do.


actually they don't call him Allah , they call him something else..
Abeg make i eat first.
Bachelor life no good o
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by analice107: 9:16pm On Apr 30, 2016
Blackfire:



actually they don't call him Allah , they call him something else..
Abeg make i eat first.
Bachelor life no good o
Blackfire no kill me with lafta.why you never marry? Abi all those fine gals for Ibadon no fine reach? go Anambra go fine one nah.
Abeg eat quick come tell me something.
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by analice107: 9:21pm On Apr 30, 2016
Blackfire:



they believed when there isa(not Jesus) comes he will break the cross into pieces, go crazy on all the pigs in the world.... I can go on and on but let me find what to eat this night.
jahahhahahahahahahahah. How do people around manage abeg.
But this Muslims are.so crazy. they are waiting for Jesus to come back not Muhammed.
i don't understand it, why not their glorious prophet, why Jesus whom they hate? Anyways, its not Jesus the Son of God they are waiting for.
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by udatso: 9:29pm On Apr 30, 2016
analice107:

The gospel according to Koran? Hahahahahahahaha. This is new. The gospel according to Koran. So Koran wrote a gospel? I can't believe this.
Guy you really need Alisina to help reset your brain. Wonderful!!!!!.
Clearly you are here to argue. You don't even know the use of punctuations. I wonder how you will ever understand. Ask help from one of your friends to explain his reply to you
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by analice107: 9:44pm On Apr 30, 2016
udatso:

Clearly you are here to argue. You don't even know the use of punctuations. I wonder how you will ever understand. Ask help from one of your friends to explain his reply to you
Lol. A muslim is about to teach me grammar. what else is left hear? Wow.
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by udatso: 9:51pm On Apr 30, 2016
malvisguy212:
the gospel according to the quran ? Confused muslim, so the quran wrote the gospel ? If the Gospel was given to jesus, were is it ? How comes all copies vanish without anyone having the original copy ? Why will allah be so weak to allow men change his word ?
I can't believe even you you fell for this. Let me teach you English language a little bit ...lol. this is so going to be fun.
Now malvisguy212 repeat after me
"The Salary, according to the director has been paid."
Explanation in pidgin English :
The director talk say for him side, them don pay the salary
Explanation in Arabic :
بالنسبة الي المدير، الراتب قد دفع

This doesn't in anyway mean that THERE IS A SALARY ACCORDING TO THE DIRECTOR

malvisguy212 do you understand? grin
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by udatso: 9:55pm On Apr 30, 2016
ypeace:

Except if you can pay me, i can't leave my Job to teach you English. Rather, ask any one if the statement mean what you interpreted it as. The English is as simple as I can make it. I don't know how I can make it simpler for you.
Don't mind him. Am already teaching malvisguy212 English language. I hope he joins my class too
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by analice107: 9:55pm On Apr 30, 2016
najib632:
Guy My religion is a continuation of Judaism and christianity were u thinking that we didn't like Jesus A.S. or what? I can never insult him he is a Great messenger of Allah and he will come back and disgrace you people for changing his teachings.
You see how deceived you are? Jesus the ordinary messenger is coming back to take over the whole and turn everyone to a Muslim, While the great Prophet will be doing what at that time?
why not ask yourself what Muhammed has done for the world beside feeding Allah with blood? every time Muslims kill, they offer blood to that demon Allah.
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by udatso: 9:59pm On Apr 30, 2016
analice107:

Lol. A muslim is about to teach me grammar. what else is left hear? Wow.
A man who doesn't know that he doesn't know is a.. .........
Repeat after me " I pledge to learn English language properly so that I can debate with Muslims."
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by udatso: 10:03pm On Apr 30, 2016
malvisguy212:
I don't think you know what you are talking about, when they say, the gospel according to mark ,matthew ,john and luke. It mean this people wrote this gospel, and are eye witness. The Gospel according to the quran, it doesn't make sense, or is the quran human ?

So what allah is asking muhammad to confirm is corrupted ?
Please pay attention, you are supposed to be in my class learning the use of punctuations.
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by udatso: 10:22pm On Apr 30, 2016
Blackfire:



actually they don't call him Allah , they call him something else..
Abeg make i eat first.
Bachelor life no good o
analice107 And Backfire
Your level of ignorance makes me wanna puke.
Here's the translation of John 3:16 in the Bible

ﻳﻮﺣﻨﺎ 3:16 Arabic: Smith & Van Dyke
لانه هكذا احب الله العالم حتى بذل ابنه الوحيد لكي لا يهلك كل من يؤمن به بل تكون له الحياة الابدية.


Can you see الله Allah there?
Bunch of ignorants people

http://biblehub.com/multi/john/3-16.htm
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by ypeace: 10:24pm On Apr 30, 2016
udatso:

Don't mind him. Am already teaching malvisguy212 English language. I hope he joins my class too
Assalam alaikum, I saw some of your trends. They are educative. However, try as much as possible not to use derogatory remarks on non believer. It is only Allah who can direct to the right path. Ours is to tell them what is right and forbid evil so that they will not have any excuse against us on the day of Judgement. May Allah guide us right.

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Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by udatso: 10:24pm On Apr 30, 2016
analice107:

Christians everywhere in the world knows that God's name is Yahweh or Jehovah. If they refer to Him as Allah, they do that in ignorance. It's not a matter of language, it's all about what the God/gods do.
Check my reply for you and blackfire
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by analice107: 10:25pm On Apr 30, 2016
udatso:

A man who doesn't know that he doesn't know is a.. .........
Repeat after me " I pledge to learn English language properly so that I can debate with Muslims."
And am suppose to dignify you with an answer?
You have been there like a mice reading. don't go out of point, answer the questions raised and save the muslims from shame of believing in a Sex maniac.
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by udatso: 10:30pm On Apr 30, 2016
ypeace:

Assalam alaikum, I saw some of your trends. They are educative. However, try as much as possible not to use derogatory remarks on non believer. It is only Allah who can direct to the right path. Ours is to tell them what is right and forbid evil so that they will not have any excuse against us on the day of Judgement. May Allah guide us right.
Walaykumussalam.. ......i try as much as possible not to. But sometimes I make mistakes. May Allah forgive our short comings.
I love the way you have intelligently replied them. May Allah increase you in knowledge and wisdom. Long time ago, I used to reply all their questions but I got tired because they kept repeating questions that have been trashed.. .......dont be surprised if one of them here asks this same questions in two to three weeks time from now
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by udatso: 10:34pm On Apr 30, 2016
analice107:

And am suppose to dignify you with an answer?
You have been there like a mice reading. don't go out of point, answer the questions raised and save the muslims from shame of believing in a Sex maniac.
Ypeace has DELIGENTLY answered the questions raised. So I see no reason why I should regurgitate
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by analice107: 10:35pm On Apr 30, 2016
udatso:

analice107 And Backfire
Your level of ignorance makes me wanna puke.
Here's the translation of John 3:16 in the Bible

ﻳﻮﺣﻨﺎ 3:16 Arabic: Smith & Van Dyke
لانه هكذا احب الله العالم حتى بذل ابنه الوحيد لكي لا يهلك كل من يؤمن به بل تكون له الحياة الابدية.


Can you see الله Allah there?
Bunch of ignorants people

http://biblehub.com/multi/john/3-16.htm
So can you a muslim pray in the name of Yahweh? Go ahead and Said it.

There is no other God but Jehovah.

If you cant say it, know that no matter how much you try to pin Allah on Yahweh it wont work.

Satan wants to he worshipped as God, he has succeeded in bringing up Islam, worship him, but helping Satan lie that he is Yahweh is the Lamest thing ever.

People like you cant make me break a sweat.
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by udatso: 10:38pm On Apr 30, 2016
analice107:

So can you a muslim pray in the name of Yahweh? Go ahead and Said it.

There is no other God but Jehovah.

If you cant say it, know that no matter how much you try to pin Allah on Yahweh it wont work.

Satan wants to he worshipped as God, he has succeeded in bringing up Islam, worship him, but helping Satan lie that he is Yahweh is the Lamest thing ever.

People like you cant make me break a sweat.
Sorry sir, am not here to argue on this. I simply felt sad that a christian Doesn't know thAt Arabic translation of Yahweh or their Jehovah witness by their Bible translators is Allah. I was only teaching you and blackfire what you didn't know about your religion. The least you can say to me is "thank you"
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by analice107: 10:40pm On Apr 30, 2016
udatso:

Ypeace has DELIGENTLY answered the questions raised. So I see no reason why I should regurgitate
Ypeace didnt answer nothing. He ran away. do you want us to go back to the post?
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by udatso: 10:46pm On Apr 30, 2016
ypeace:
The definition of terms is one of the various reasons why religious arguements extend beyond reasonable lenght on Nairaland.

Your own definition of 'Christians' is those who follow Jesus. A muslim's definition of 'christians' is in the first part of that same verse you quoted which is those who blasphame........................................... Here, 'those who follow Jesus, christains, those who blasphame needs definition'.

The verse you quoted states that 'those who follow' Jesus are superior TO THOSE WHO REJECT FAITH (seems you do not consider the last part in your deductions from the verse)
..............................................
I don't know about you, but some christians do not consider Jehova withness christians.... Leaving us with what does christian mean.


*The above is in direct link with the the verse you quoted.*

Also, you used some terms in what you infer from the verse. E.g you assume that the Injeel (given to Jesus) is the Bible.

The Bible vs Injeel; those who follow christ vs the disbelievers (those who reject faith vs those who blasphame and christians.......

As long as your definition of those terms is not in agreement with what muslims define them as, any arguement on the verse is a waste of time.
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by analice107: 10:46pm On Apr 30, 2016
udatso:

Sorry sir, am not here to argue on this. I simply felt sad that a christian Doesn't know thAt Arabic translation of Yahweh or their Jehovah witness by their Bible translators is Allah. I was only teaching you and blackfire what you didn't know about your religion. The least you can say to me is "thank you"
Fine, Now you have taught us that Allah is the same deity as Jehovah right? Since its just a matter of name, it goes to say we can both pray to the Him calling him both Allah and Jehovah.

Now say it, Jehovah is Lord. say it.

if you don't, it there means you know deep down that Allah and Jehovah are not the same deity. its not a matter of names but Modus Operandi.
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by udatso: 10:47pm On Apr 30, 2016
ypeace:
A 'typical muslim' will define Christians as misguided humans not those who follow christ. Example of those who follow christ to a muslim is king of Abyssinia who muslim met there when they migrated from mekkah. Another example is the uncle of Khadijah......................
1. This shows the difference between those who follow christ and christians.
*Bible to muslim contain words of other humans. Injeel is God's word put in the mouth of Jesus. A mixture of both is not Injeel or Muslim's bible.
2. Clearly, what a muslim's bible is different from christian's bible.

...................................................................
What you deduced from, what you used in deducing and what you deduced is based on using your own definition. A debate on your deduction is a waste of time if terms used mean different thing to the debaters.
Re: Quran Testifies To The Bible: It Says It Stands Till Eternity by Blackfire(m): 10:53pm On Apr 30, 2016
analice107:

Hahahahahahahaha. You think your Koran is still hidden in Arabic language which a few people understand? Listen son, try reading the Koran in English and see how evil your prophet was.
Will you allow a 53years old man to have sex with your kid sister of 6? But your Holy Prophet Muhammed will often carry the six years old toddler and lie her on his carpet, stand over her and use Camel's Milk to Mastubate, when he erects, he will pull Aisha's little 6years old legs together and insert his manhood, go back and forth until he comes. That was your Holy prophet Muhammed's hobby. When the child was Nine, the Holy prophet could not hold himself any further and well... Guess what? He had numerous wives he could have done that with, but no. He liked them young, before they changed their milk teeth.
Aisha died Childless because she was damaged by your Holy prophet Muhammed's manhood.


*trying to cover Anna 's mouth*
hey nwa you go kill person pikin o.. Imagine this guy ask one quarter of those question in the mosque? ..


Immediately mohamed died, alot of people renounce Islam (many agreed to Islam,because of the tyranny of mohamed, atleast to save there lives)... Abubakr killed them all.

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