jnhmaxxwell:


This is the only comment that makes super sense.

scully95:
Written by Grandson Soyemi.

Tiwa Salvage

However, this tradition is not the same as those of the White in America or the English from the United Kingdom, where more often than not it is the wife who has the custody of the children.


In Yorubaland, it is the father who has the custody


Tiwa, therefore has no right whatsoever over the child of her union with the husband. She is in Lagos, Yorubaland and not in New York or London.

delishpot:
Yes. The custom of enslavement. Later you guys come here to wonder why our mothers and foremothers never left their abusive and sad marriages. This is the reason why. The custom made sure to tie a woman down to a man one way or the other.man.
If she left the child as custom wants to force her to do, it's still those same hypocrites that will say she abandoned her baby and left the marriage. If she wants to carry her baby and leave those same people will say according to custom she should leave baby with the man. How then can a woman escape an unhappy and abusive marriage?

delishpot:
Yes. The custom of enslavement. Later you guys come here to wonder why our mothers and foremothers never left their abusive and sad marriages. This is the reason why. The custom made sure to tie a woman down to a man one way or the other.man.
If she left the child as custom wants to force her to do, it's still those same hypocrites that will say she abandoned her baby and left the marriage. If she wants to carry her baby and leave those same people will say according to custom she should leave baby with the man. How then can a woman escape an unhappy and abusive marriage?

onstelly:


As in eh
I no fit shout
Small ish indeed
Fling my weaves and walk away

scully95:


You want to tell me Tiwa did not know before she ran into it right ? Ok let assume she does not know.

To get to the bottom of it all, you need to look into what went on in LA. When tiwa was a no one and was fcking every man's dick way up.

I guess T balogun must have loved the fckings and so put his everything with the hope of making the best from her.

But see how things turned out... First of all sacking T balogun is more or less like removing the connecting rope between the two or the relationship which is based on mutual business in the first place.

If she did not remove his only life wire, I bet he wont go around begging for money. 45m here..

Accoding to Tiwa, I am even sure those that dropped that kind of money must be servicing her cos she's the loose girl and there is element of truth in everyting T Balogun said about her..

I know this family very well. Teebillz's father is a big boy to the call was formally running all the computer prices in Computer villiage before he diversified to real estate.


T Balogun is a spoilt child and the type that would never beg Tiwa. Things fell apart for him. Rewind to LA,Teebillz is a big boy to the call that has Office in LA. Do you know what it means to have an office down town LA and decided to sell everything because of one girl and the girl now decided to remove his only life wire ?

The issue she said about diverting money could be resolved. Why kill he cat for removing just the eyes from the big fish ?
Someone mostly pushed her to do that..Those people will push her to her fall finally.

SURElee:
Which custom are we talking about? The same custom that TJ didn't consider before all this? So the jam Jam should be left with a man without a means of livelihood to suffer? That Tunji woke up and decided to ruin Tiwa's career since he feels he made her because he no longer earns managerial fees from her, little did he know he was setting himself up and shooting his own feet.

TJ should be with davido's baby mama so they can bass and sniff cocaine together.

This writer must be high on coke. How manay of TJ's children are wt him? That goes to show, he doesn't even want responsibilities, bills etc. Na tiwa pikin he wan come claim? When he never tire to do fine boy about lagos, lekki axis with earrings forming morris chestnut and boris kodjoe with an empty pocket.

scully95:
Written by Grandson Soyemi.

Tiwa Salvage says she will always allow her estranged husband to have access to their son. As a Yoruba woman, she is totally in the wrong here. This is more so because the Yoruba people have three phases of marriage: the Introduction, the Engagement and the Registry, Church or Mosque Ceremony.

The most significant of the three stages is the engagement proper which is often conducted under the Yoruba Cutomary Marriage Act.
The Act states that the children of the union between a husband and a wife belong to the father and if the father dies, the children belong to his immediate family. Tiwa's husband has all the rights over their child, according to the Yoruba culture and tradition, which are laws in Yorubaland.

However, this tradition is not the same as those of the White in America or the English from the United Kingdom, where more often than not it is the wife who has the custody of the children. In Yorubaland, it is the father who has the custody. Tiwa, therefore has no right whatsoever over the child of her union with the husband. She is in Lagos, Yorubaland and not in New York or London.
I have done this post to educate the gullible Yoruba Youth who may have watched Tiwa's video. On reflection, I am, however disturbed on the mores and mishaps that increasingly afflict love and marriage among young Yorubas.

Our society expects us all to get married. With only rare exceptions, we all do just that. Getting married is a rather complicated business. It involves mastering certain complex hustling and courtship games, the rituals and the ceremonies that celebrate the act of marriage, and finally the difficult requirements of domestic life with a husband or wife. It is an enormously elaborate round of activities, much more so than finding a job, and yet while many resolutely remain unemployed, few remain unmarried.

Now all this would not be particularly remarkable if there were no question about the advantages, the joys, and the rewards of married life, but most Yoruba, even young Yoruba, know or have heard that marriage is a hazardous affair.
Of course, for all the increase in divorce, there are still young marriages that work, unions made by young men and women intelligent or fortunate enough to find the kind of mates they want, who know that they want children and how to love them when they come, or who find the artful blend between giving and receiving.

It is not these marriages that concern us here, and that is not the trend in Yoruba today. We are concerned with the increasing number of others who, with mixed intentions and varied illusions, grope or fling themselves into marital disaster. They talk solemnly and sincerely about working to make their marriage succeed, but they are very aware of the countless marriages they have seen fail.
But young people in particular do not seem to be able to relate the awesome divorce statistics to the probability of failure of their own marriage. And they rush into it, in increasing numbers, without any clear idea of the reality that underlies the myth.
I can only hope Tiwa and her husband find the grace to work things out on their own.

cococandy:
What a load of stupid bullock. So someone will suffer to bring a child into this world and you have the guts to open your mouth and tell her that she has no right over the child?

How did the people who concocted such traditions even feel when carrying out such unfairness?
Mtchew.

I can't imagine what I'll do to someone who tells me I don't have a right over my own child that I bore from my womb.

delishpot:
Yes. The custom of enslavement. Later you guys come here to wonder why our mothers and foremothers never left their abusive and sad marriages. This is the reason why. The custom made sure to tie a woman down to a man one way or the other.man.
If she left the child as custom wants to force her to do, it's still those same hypocrites that will say she abandoned her baby and left the marriage. If she wants to carry her baby and leave those same people will say according to custom she should leave baby with the man. How then can a woman escape an unhappy and abusive marriage?

scully95:


You want to tell me Tiwa did not know before she ran into it right ? Ok let assume she does not know.

To get to the bottom of it all, you need to look into what went on in LA. When tiwa was a no one and was fcking every man's dick way up.

I guess T balogun must have loved the fckings and so put his everything with the hope of making the best from her.

But see how things turned out... First of all sacking T balogun is more or less like removing the connecting rope between the two or the relationship which is based on mutual business in the first place.

If she did not remove his only life wire, I bet he wont go around begging for money. 45m here..

Accoding to Tiwa, I am even sure those that dropped that kind of money must be servicing her cos she's the loose girl and there is element of truth in everyting T Balogun said about her..

I know this family very well. Teebillz's father is a big boy to the call was formally running all the computer prices in Computer villiage before he diversified to real estate.


T Balogun is a spoilt child and the type that would never beg Tiwa. Things fell apart for him. Rewind to LA,Teebillz is a big boy to the call that has Office in LA. Do you know what it means to have an office down town LA and decided to sell everything because of one girl and the girl now decided to remove his only life wire ?

The issue she said about diverting money could be resolved. Why kill he cat for removing just the eyes from the big fish ?
Someone mostly pushed her to do that..Those people will push her to her fall finally.

Safemode:

I m a Yoruba man.
I agree with your points but the issue of Tiwa & Tee Billz can't be easily concluded that one of them is with more fault.
If Tee Billz also come out again with his own defensive reply to Tiwa's interview. he may get back the public sympathy again. Remember he appeared like the victim when the news about his suicide attempt came out.

cap28:
Many years ago when women gave birth to twins we used to abandon them in the bush why dont we go back to that primitive and backward tradition? Tiwa made a very big mistake by marrying this man he is a user and a big time loser and yet some morons are expecting her to leave the child that he doesn't even support with this loser! Tradition is not set in stone its supposed to evolve with time

AnonMan16:
Yoruba customs and laws don't apply in real world situations anymore because of this one thing called Modernity. If young yoruba people were to follow Yoruba customs strictly today, there would be a huge difference in quality of life. They are a modern couple and are subject above anything to Nigerian common law which suggests either of them could have sole custody of their son if they go down the divorce route.

adorable29:
Scully95, lets put all sentiments aside...

Do you, FROM THE BOTTOM of your heart dont think all what you are typing upandan on this thread isnt some HOGWASH BULL CRAP.

Do you honestly think that people are so dummmb not to see through your senselesss rants. You can see no one is basically liking your comments even though all you have been typing here could fill a textbook, meaning they aren't falling for your sensational lies and backwardness.

This is 2016 bro. Wake up, get out of the cave and smell the coffee.

Chill na..

Chill already

cococandy:
What a load of stupid bullock. So someone will suffer to bring a child into this world and you have the guts to open your mouth and tell her that she has no right over the child?

How did the people who concocted such traditions even feel when carrying out such unfairness?
Mtchew.

I can't imagine what I'll do to someone who tells me I don't have a right over my own child that I bore from my womb.

coachwilcox:


It's very sad that a man becomes a loser as soon as he cannot provide for his family again. When he was sacrificing his career and resources and time to jump start her career, he was not a loser.

This is the real reason many men don't support or involve themselves in their wife/gf dreams. Chai

coachwilcox:


If you call a man defending his culture as hogwash then you clearly need to sit down, think and ask yourself. Am I an Ibo or wherever you're from first or a westerner? And by that I mean (American, European). I'm sure you actually have an identity crisis.

He never said women are incapable of raising kids alone. (What if the father passed away). He said that the kid needs his father and Tiwa should not be the one to define where the kid should be as well as if she will let him have access.

DrMuzungu:
To me, a husband or a partner who is capable, but refuses to provide for his family and rather depends on the wife to do so, is the worst piece of garbage that can exist. Add to that a drugs addiction and you get what? You get one useless dude named Tee Billz.

I don't think I am disrespectful person, but anyone suggesting a child would be better with such "man" is a bit... insane.

gemale:


keep defending sexism & 1 obsolete custom dt has less value dan bull crap (@ least dt 1 can b used as manure). So wld u advise ur sister 2 leave her only child wt a man lyk dt & his family?

coachwilcox:


As the late Awo said, I'm a Yoruba man first before a Nigerian. I add, before a citizen of the global village. I rest my case.

coachwilcox:


Basically, by your unintelligent statement, modernity means abandoning your culture for American, European culture SMH for this generation. No wonder China censors any TV show, movie or even web page coming from the west. Fela called this second slavery. Slavery of the mind.

An African youth will wear head warmer in the hot sun.

An African executive will wear suit and tie in the blazing sun. Forgetting that the European who introduced did so because their weather is extremely cold. Meanwhile an Arab executive will don all white because of his weather. Chai!!!

adepeter26:

Without viewing ya gender, u must be a lady. But truth be told, this dude gat a point in what u termed "mumu post"

octopusfreaky:
abiii oooo. infact, i just dey wonder d type of guys on nairaland, not all ladies are money-conscious Nonsensical rubbish