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Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads / Part 3: Pastor To Atheist: Ask Me Any Question I Will Answer If Safe For Me / PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again (2) (3) (4)
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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 6:00pm On May 01, 2016 |
Jadonjack:The reason is not because they feel the loss. The real reason is disbelief that God can be denounced and yet these atheists live normal lives without the great fear of eternal damnation. It is just too incredible to imagine. 22 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by johnydon22(m): 6:02pm On May 01, 2016 |
HardMirror: Jadonjack: Everyone is at different stages of consciousness, there is a certain stage you reach when your intent is just to speak your truth and not argue over it or try to convince others of it. You begin to realize we all have and thread different paths in other words you cannot convince a baby that they should be walking and not crawling when they are still at that stage of crawling. To convince them of that truth is irrelevant. So you need not reply the emotional but sadly ignorant assertions from insecure Christians littering this thread, you need not convince them that their wits are wrong because both of you are at different levels of wits, volition and illumination. They can harbour any misconceived ill idea they have about atheists and atheism or broadly irreligiousity, it doesn't change anything. No matter how hard you try to change that notion they will still hold it and cling to it, its not about them not learning but not wanting to learn. Like i always say, it is dangerous for anyone with a belief in deities to debate an atheist, it might take a very long time but that tiny mustered seed of doubt must be planted. So don't bother responding all these irrelevant mentions and posts, only speak your truth and do not bother arguing. It only takes one tiny seed of doubt, natural curiosity takes it from there.. 27 Likes 7 Shares |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 6:04pm On May 01, 2016 |
Ayomivic:Ridiculous question you've got there. Are Hindus in bondage? Are muslims in bondage? Are traditionalists in bondage? The christian answer is yes. So if you want to know what he is free from, just look at those you think are also in bondage, that is the same bondage you are in. The bondage of ignorance and suffering because of lack of wisdom. 26 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Ganjafama(m): 6:06pm On May 01, 2016 |
herald9:It was even God who brought up the issue of job just to ridicule satan. What an insecure god. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by ossuofia1: 6:07pm On May 01, 2016 |
nelsonoba: Shift abeg!! Who send you message? 7 Likes |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 6:08pm On May 01, 2016 |
Ayomivic:Negroe, I am telling you that he is "serving" no one. His actions are as a result of his thoughts and nothing else. So yeah, he is free 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by johnydon22(m): 6:09pm On May 01, 2016 |
Ganjafama: Who ever reads the bible or Quran objectively will only see a very insecure, childish, egoistic, sadistic, wrathful, vengeful, partial, small, tribal, barbaric and ignorant deity in the name of an all powerful creator of the cosmos. All Gods are simply too small for this cosmos 21 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 6:10pm On May 01, 2016 |
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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 6:11pm On May 01, 2016 |
johnydon22:Really I am not interested in convincing anyone. But I will keep upsetting the norms in religion just to tickle peoples imagination. I am yet to see an atheist that is trying to convert anyone. We just make our findings available. 11 Likes |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by johnydon22(m): 6:14pm On May 01, 2016 |
HardMirror: Exactly but the insecurities in these beliefs makes them see it as an attack, their vulnerability makes them want to protect their beliefs from scrutiny and questions. Anything that can be destroyed by the truth deserves to be destroyed... 18 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by herald9: 6:15pm On May 01, 2016 |
Ganjafama:Talk of GAMBLING with the lives of people he claims to love. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 6:18pm On May 01, 2016 |
johnydon22:I am perplexed that people read those "holy" books and don't ask important questions about what they are reading. If those books were just novels, then no problem. But books claiming to be from god; the absolute guide to life and definer of purpose. Not asking questions is a serious sign that such minds are deluded. 17 Likes 1 Share |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by matrix199(m): 6:18pm On May 01, 2016 |
The two events in the bible that got me thinking were.... 1. Uzzah, who tried to hold the ark of the covenant that got tripped when it was being hauled to a destination. The guy was struck dead. Talk about punishing someone for being helpful! 2. The first son of berthsheba, the woman David killed her husband in order to marry her. What was the crime of the boy that he had to be killed by God? These and a whole lot more got me thinking. I mean, if I was the most powerful man in Nigeria, I'll obliterate my enemies at a blink of an eye. I wonder why God had to allow these so called small gods to strive? Christians, think brethren, think! 18 Likes |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 6:22pm On May 01, 2016 |
matrix199:That Uzzah's case is a serious one o. They guy just perished for nothing. Should he have left the ark to fall? 13 Likes 1 Share |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by johnydon22(m): 6:23pm On May 01, 2016 |
HardMirror: If the story of Noah wasn't in the bible Christians would have laughed at anybody who believed it, if the story of Harry Potter was in the bible Christians would have believed it and call anyone who don't a fool. Don't you see how a Muslim believes Muhammed rode a flying horse but doubt other fantasies in the Christian bible that aren't found in their belief. But a christian would still laugh at a muslim for believing muhammed rode a flying horse but they think a man flew away into the cloud and into some heaven. That is the hypocrisy and idiocy of belief, trying to substitute emotions for evidence and faith as proof. Blinds one to the inconsistencies of his beliefs but leaves them wide open to the inconsistencies of other belief. Religions thrives on Fear, Blind faith, Ignorance and driven by indoctrination of these values into younger minds, if everyone asked questions like "you" did or want everyone to, we won't have up to 10% of the world being religious. 47 Likes 11 Shares |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Princewell2012(m): 6:26pm On May 01, 2016 |
HardMirror: Mmmmm, but something still tells me that you re still a minister of God. 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by laribari(m): 6:27pm On May 01, 2016 |
Alphanancy: I pity your soul but your case is minor, so I might not get back to you even though I'm expecting you to reply me. I'm just following the story now, so let me get at it. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 6:30pm On May 01, 2016 |
johnydon22:Lol Couldn't have said it better 6 Likes |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Ayomivic(m): 6:31pm On May 01, 2016 |
Jadonjack: You thought the op used his brain perfectly. You disappointed me. So, op wake up and detects he has brain. He did not know where that came from. He thinks he can use that brain to insult the God that gave him. 2 Likes |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by matrix199(m): 6:31pm On May 01, 2016 |
HardMirror: Who created the amorites? the moabites? the canaanites? the phillistines? Wasn't it the same God who made the isrealites made the same amorites, moabites, canaanites, and phillistines? But he chose side with the isrealites in destroying the people he created, just because they didn't worship him. The book of matthew said... Will the son of a bad man ask for bread and he giveth stone? Is it right for a father to kill his own children, even if they disobeyed the father? Hmm. 10 Likes 1 Share |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 6:31pm On May 01, 2016 |
HardMirror:becoming an atheists is not as easy as the theist think it is. But when you finally stop deceiving yourself, and the threats of these "Gods"(according to some men) seem unreasonable, you are out. I began by thinking independently. If I can doubt the existence of a God, why would he allow anyone to think in the first place. Then I experimented, if God can stop me from thinking further then he exists. I won't fool myself in this quest. All the questions became clearer and unanswerable. I realized that no man has actually seen a god, or presented any convincing statement about the existence of a god, gods, or a God. No person, with all the faith combined have raised the dead. Only one book claims to have records of supernatural accomplishment by men which I haven't experienced any except I would lie to my own self. Any of you who have, by any means, seen, heard or have a conclusively indisputable proof of your god should try here and now. Don't be scared to question the bible and your pastors. Don't settle for inconclusive explanations and answers. Then you'll have found your brain was in hibernation mood for a very long time. No one can make you an atheist, I am an agnostist, but was once an atheist. After much thinking it didn't really matter anymore. We are have at least arrived at reason without being promised wealth in an unseen place or threatened by eternal damnation. It all becomes belittling to our intellectual capacity. 16 Likes 1 Share |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by 1dorzine(m): 6:34pm On May 01, 2016 |
HardMirror: Then I know you... How did this happen.. You won't believe I was always envious of you then... Wow.. This is the biggest surprise I've seen all my life... Wow... ![]() ![]() 12 Likes |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Princewell2012(m): 6:35pm On May 01, 2016 |
snadguy007: That guy is still a Christian. 2 Likes |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by PastorAIO: 6:36pm On May 01, 2016 |
Every now and again a thread comes along in nairaland that makes sticking around worthwhile. What a sweet thread!!? HardMirror: 16 Likes 1 Share |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by johnydon22(m): 6:37pm On May 01, 2016 |
Pyrrho: It takes great courage for one to question his/belief and eventually leave it, i consider such people the strongest in the world. they set out to find the truth and they follow it even when under infantile threats of eternal torture 22 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Ayomivic(m): 6:42pm On May 01, 2016 |
HardMirror: i asked you questions pls, answer them. Leaving on earth without fear of eternal damnation those not mean there not be eternal damnation for sinful souls. Wake up from slumber. Use your brain correctly 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 6:42pm On May 01, 2016 |
1dorzine:But was in SEET (engineering) not SET. I know the guy in your mind (he was in IDD to be precise) we were 4 that always prayed together and preach together. The SET guy and I stayed in Block C (he is still a christian, my best friend so I know). His name starts with D and ends with A |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Princewell2012(m): 6:47pm On May 01, 2016 |
HardMirror: if what you have been saying so far is the truth, hmmm something still tells me you re still a minister of God. 2 Likes |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 6:47pm On May 01, 2016 |
1dorzine:Send a PM to me. I live in Lagos now. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 6:47pm On May 01, 2016 |
johnydon22:It's amazing, but totally understandable, that Millions of people can be threatened by an alien god from alien tradition that is in no way related to their history. How did I ever believe that the God in the book called the bible, who killed at will, is my own God. We were once too weak. Ahan! Imagine the number of people claimed to have a killed in the name of Yahweh! Quite astonishing! 9 Likes |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Merryt: 6:49pm On May 01, 2016 |
Ayomivic:I don't buy this thread but guy just stop it. Your arguments sound weak and silly. 9 Likes |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by nelsonoba: 6:52pm On May 01, 2016 |
urahara: Like seriously, I dont understand your fascination with "Islamic" hell. Hell is hell, and I don't understand why you must create an Islamic hell out of the already existing hell. By the way, you sound so apprehensive each time i talk about hell........if you're that scared of hell, then why do you still want to end up there? And you claim to be one of the atheists backing up Mr HardMirror, but you are here wishing for me to end up in "Islamic hell"? If God does not exist as you claim, then hell too does not exist because hell is just a place for punishment of damned souls who rejected God. How could you possibly be wishing for somebody to end up in a place you claim does not exist? Aren't you the most confused human being on the planet or the worst liar there is?? 10 Likes 2 Shares |
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