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Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads / Part 3: Pastor To Atheist: Ask Me Any Question I Will Answer If Safe For Me / PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again (2) (3) (4)
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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by lepasharon(f): 1:05am On May 02, 2016 |
BlackHummer: This is serious 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by johnydon22(m): 1:14am On May 02, 2016 |
austin2all: Current girl friend is an atheist, A popular one here on Nairaland at that... I'm a lucky bastard ![]() For my kids i intend to raise them free, they won't be atheists or theists, rather maintain that default stance we all have from birth which is Pure agnosticism. When they grow to the age of reason they can develop their own ideas not feed them my own ideas 14 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by johnydon22(m): 1:15am On May 02, 2016 |
absoluteSuccess: Why do you think it's should be only 1 creator and not millions or a whole race of them? 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by johnydon22(m): 1:33am On May 02, 2016 |
julioralph: Frosbel's case is really a very good case study here how dangerous it is for any religious person to encounter atheists no matter how strong they think their belief is.. frosbel is a good example We all at one point were top notch core religionists and theists but along the line the thunder struck.. ![]() Frosbel was one top debater against atheists here on NL, we don't have anybody here now that can match that, his aggressiveness during his days.. He was a pain then, i only watched as a guest then though. then slowly the emergence of reason started, the little seeds of doubt and question his endless encounters with atheists culminated and germinated into a tree.. even though they might sound aggressive and all that, it is expected for a dearly held idea to be aggressive towards a new contradicting one but some things never remain same. some way along the line, it may take years but they will one day ask one question as an effect from the debates with atheists. and from there the slow painful and lonely hard journey begins ... thats why i always maintain: it's dangerous for anyone with a belief in deities to debate an atheist, it might take a very long time but that tiny mustered seed of doubt must be planted. so when debating, do not argue to win an argument or argue endlessly, it is needless and infantile.. Simple make your points and be done with it, all needed is just 1 tiny seed of doubt, natural curiosity takes over.. the result is always ......... You know it 26 Likes 7 Shares |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by kolinz(m): 1:43am On May 02, 2016 |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by LongJohnS: 1:52am On May 02, 2016 |
I've just wasted good one hour in reading this 17 paged trash. To hell with you foolish Hardmirror for being the Coward that you truely are. The gutless Atheist ![]() ![]() 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by johnydon22(m): 1:58am On May 02, 2016 |
LongJohnS: Hhmmmm what exactly is getting you worked up here...? He just told his story, how does that call for insults and name callings please..? I really don't understand 7 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 2:00am On May 02, 2016 |
SOME STUPID ATHEIST SELF IS LIKE MOST OF U JUST WANNA SIN THAT'S WHY U TURNING ATHEIST AM SHOUTING "BEING AN ATHEIST IS NOT A GATE WAY FOR YOU TO SIN O" THEY ARE THINGS IN THIS WORD THAT ARE MORALLY WRONG THAT'S WHY CHRISTIANS ALWAYS USE THAT SAYING ATHEIST LACK NO MORALS I CANT ELABORATE MORE ON THIS 3 Likes |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by austin2all: 2:08am On May 02, 2016 |
johnydon22: You mean to tell me that your life depends on no principle? Even though I've long discovered the truth (that religion is just a tool used to control the vulnerables), the fact still can not be challenged that the bible holds such great morals and principles that when ones life is base on them, would definitely bring out the best in him/her. And so I've decided to adopt it's morals to serve as a base for my family. But for how long will one have to pretend for his wife and kids, even when you know that all the prayers you've said together in Jesus name has always been nothing but ceremonial formalities. 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by musicwriter(m): 2:09am On May 02, 2016 |
@HardMirror Have read your story and it's quite interesting. I'll like to respond, but before I proceed let me inform you I'm no church person trying to re-convert you. Rather, I'm here to point out the misconceptions you had from the beginning and still do. Hopefully, it would help you understand better. I'll be quoting some of your comments I find interesting. 1. Now this case was peculiar. Why? I learnt something key that day. Once a human sees you as superhuman, they believe anything you tell them and people can be overwhelmed by the presences or words of people they think are directly linked with God. Yes, you're right, but you don't fully understand why and why hypnotism itself works. Nature is configured to work that way. You don't have to be a christian for that to happen. You could be a muslem, a babalawo, a monk, a celebrity, anything. If you exert that kind of influence on someone, nature will activate the person receiving such incantations to trust you and get healed. This's why Jesus Christ who had a great knowledge of how nature works emphasized faith among his followers. T. B. Joshua use it even now, and it's not a bad thing, as long as whoever is using it is using it for good. Of course, thieves also use it to rob people by sheer threat without even wielding a gun!. This's also the natural tool available to parents to control their children. If such natural powers doesn't exist, children would not obey their parents. It works all the time and would continue to work. Even if now as an unbeliever you go out and start attending to your former followers, it would still work, as long as they don't realize you're no longer a believer. It have nothing to do with the bible or koran or Torah. Again, it's natural. 2. I started revealing things that were going on in her family and telling her how God was fixing them. Similar to the above, if your followers believe what you're saying is true, nature would activate it in their mind as real, even if you were deliberately telling them a lie. Nature works in a way that it's the receiver of such sermon decide whether it's real or not, not YOU. You could be a 419'ner and it would still work!. It's just nature working, it have nothing to do with the bible or koran or Torah. 3. Real magic is does not exist, but that does not mean magic is not real. Magic is real as long as you are ready to overlook the tricks behind the magic and just enjoy the show. Not really. But, it's almost like the above. It's the onlooker that decides whether a magic is real or not. Not the actor!!. It's not YOU that decides whether the magic is real or not. As far as the mind of the onlookers are concerned a magic is real. In the eyes of your followers your magic or incantations were real, even if you were a fake pastor deliberating fooling them. Both of you were experiencing reality in opposite sides. If your followers believed your sermon or magic were real, you are not better than them for knowing it was a fake. To them it was real, to you it was a fake. Just two sides of the same coin!!. Indeed, science also proves so. Albert Einstein's law of relativity shows different people would have different realities depending on their position, location or speed; for instance. If we 're seated watching a live football match in a stadium, and there's a penalty kick, the spectator seated at the back of the goalkeeper sees the kick as a ball coming towards him, while the other spectator seated at the back of the opponent's goalkeeper sees it as a ball running away from him. That's one. Assuming the match is between Nigeria and Brazil, and at the end Nigeria wins the match by 7 goals to 0, i.e Nigeria 7 : Brazil 0. The reality for Nigeria would be victory and joy, while the reality for Brazil would be loss and sadness. Each country perceiving reality at opposite sides!. These are the two different realities in this example!!. Quantum physics also have same discoveries!. Scientists were able to get 2 correct answers for 1 mathematical question!!. Reality depends on the mind perceiving it!!. Again, YOU are not the one that decides reality for someone else. I wish I could get someone understand this, cause it's so important. That's how nature works!!. 4. We rounded up the prayer. I asked the woman some questions. She said she is delivered. She was in tears I had to hug her and pet her. The daughter was still damn confused. I just looked at the confused girl and told her God has set them free. It's all the same as above. It was the woman that experienced the reality NOT you!!. Indeed, your prayers worked as far as the woman was concerned. Or did it not work??. I'll be so glad, if you could understand what God means and keep helping such women get back their lives. 5. The moment you have a personal relationship with God and he is a Father to you more than being a far away God, then you begin to realize he is doing nothing to help humanity. This just a misconception. God is you!. It's up to you to pursue good for humanity using that feel good spirit. There's no other God that would solve humanity's problem than you. 6. I have not met a christian that is passionate about saving souls that is not worried about God's incompetency because you would have had so many touching encounters and realize god is actually doing nothing for humanity, but we humans are the ones running around for god (that does not even exists) Like No. 6 above, this misconception originates from your mistaken concept of God all the while you were a preacher. God wants you to do anything you can for the advancement of humanity. And when you're doing that he's doing it. 7. [b]1. My Number one problem: We are to preach to all nations and make sure people don't perishThis's where you exposed your biggest misconception about God. God is not interested in religion!. God has nothing to do with religion!!. Jesus Christ himself was not a christian neither were he a church person. In one instance he went to the church (synagogue) and began destroying the whole place because he felt they weren't doing things right. God is not interested how many times you pray or so called saving souls for him, but how well you served humanity for good- solving those problems that threw you away from the church. Without mincing words; what this comment tell me is that you were a christian fanatics all the while, same way your friends and big pastors were and still are. Even if God and Jesus were real and you based your entitlement on the above, God and Jesus would still have rejected you in heaven, if any. Indeed, Jesus said: "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." 26 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 2:12am On May 02, 2016 |
AND ON THE QUESTION IF THEY WAS A CREATOR MOST OF THE ATHEIST HERE ON NL ARE MOSTLY AGNOSTIC THAT DOES NOT IN ANY WAY MEAN THAT THEY ARE CONFUSED IT MEANS THAT THEY NEED CONCRETE EVIDENCE TO BELIEVE THAT GOD DO EXIST WHICH ANY RELIGIOUS BODIES HAS FAILED IN DOING THAT LIKE I SAID B4 EVEN IF THEY WAS A CREATOR IT'LL MEAN ALL THE 5000+ RELIGION IS FALSE YES INCLUDING YOUR OWN ONE THING I KNOW IS THAT IF THEY WAS A CREATOR WILL HE WANNA BE WORSHIPED?? IF THAT CREATOR WANT A HOLY BOOK WONT HE WRITE IT HIMSELF IN ALL THE LANGUAGES AVAILABLE IN THE WORLD TODAY N MAGICALLY DELIVER IT TO OUR DOOR STEP?? IF THE CREATOR WANNA COMMUNICATE WITH THE WORLD WONT HE JUST SPEAK FROM THE HEAVEN N WE WILL ALL GET THE MESSAGE?? RELIGION BEING FROM MAN MEANS ITS CORRUPT N I REFUSE TO FOLLOW THAT! 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by johnydon22(m): 2:32am On May 02, 2016 |
austin2all: I have a thousand and one principles and i can proudly say all are independent of any religious coercions. My principles are of my own making, my ideas and not that of any other person, book or doctrine
There is a whole lot of moral values in every religious book as well as a thousand and one barbarism, inconsistencies and outright rubbish. Buddhism holds a great deal of morals Taoism does Janism does and these religions beats every Abrahamic or biblical mumbo jumbo hands down when it comes to morals. Even the African culture is decorated with outright healthy moral principles so what the hell are you saying? All these mentioned above, all the morals found in these religions or books are all human ideas. So why must you rely on someone else's idea to develop your own moral ideas... So morality is not a trade mark of any religion or book, don't even try make it so. I'll teach my kids morals in coincide with the human society, values that promotes justice and love, freedom and promotes individual and societal well being. So now know this; Morality is neither Christian or muslim or hindu or any religion, morality is human it belongs to no ism. morality is not dependent on any book or creed for basis cus it has a human basis.. Develop your own god damn ideas!!! But for how long will one have to pretend for his wife and kids, even when you know that all the prayers you've said together in Jesus name has always been nothing but ceremonial formalities. Boy this is your own cup of tea.... I am not bringing my Children up in any religion not one.. I will teach them the essence of goodness as a human virtue for the human society necessary for our continuation and not as a religious doctrine or religious idea that's absurd. 11 Likes 6 Shares |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by PastorAIO: 2:44am On May 02, 2016 |
johnydon22: You hit the nail on the head right there and that is the mistake many theists on NL are making. They are so desperate to win the argument that they resort to all sorts of underhand methods and aggressive yabbis. What they don't realise is that it is not just the people they are arguing with, nor even just the members of this forum, that are reading the posts and getting influenced. It is everybody that comes to NL mostly guests. These christians do so much for the spread of atheism with their inanities in their attempts to counter atheism. Just make your points. Ask pertinent questions that strike right at the heart of a matter. Then Let the Religionists rage and hurl inanities at you. Once they do that, then your job is done. seeds have been planted. The failure of the apologists to logically respond is made clear for all to see.They will factor that into their own soul searching. 14 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by johnydon22(m): 3:00am On May 02, 2016 |
PastorAIO:I couldn't have said it better boss. It's all seem very childish, immature and really really desperate and insecure when they muster attempts to counter atheism crowned by the personal tantrums and emotional yarns. Those infantile attempts really only more like adds fuel to the flame. I receive PMs almost on daily basis, people with questions even though most times naive but you can see it's sincere, people at the cross roads from reading the debates and people that already abandoned religions feeling alone and wants a guiding hand. I notice they are not really the people who mostly comment on this board but actually silent readers who go through the squabbles and ponder them and there is always an effect from the things they read. . **Though once in a while you get a surprise PM from an unexpected popular religionist** the religions (Islam and Christianity) are doing terrible damage in the name of defence. So the debates is not really about the person countering you but about the readers, the readers can discern between plain imbecility and an argument. Most irreligious people here keep on arguing with theists, engaging in an endless circle of meaningless squabbles repeating the same thing over and over again, i have done that before and it's totally unnecessary, irrelevant and nonsensical. I keep saying, no point stressing it or trying to win an arguement last i checked there is no prize for that. Simply make your points and move, there is a curious point in every human, you only need to give it a very little prick. It takes over from there.. Not aim at convincing anyone, that is irrelevant and unneeded 12 Likes 7 Shares |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by coded01: 3:04am On May 02, 2016 |
BlackHummer: AMEN!!! 5 Likes |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by coded01: 3:14am On May 02, 2016 |
laribari: Like Blackhummer predicted... He isn't what he claims he is and trust me... He won't reply you! |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by heeqhmart(f): 3:24am On May 02, 2016 |
OP, when you were curious and seeking for answers, did you read the Qur'an, the Injeel, the Zabur, the Torah, the Suhuf?? When you were looking for answers, did you research on other religious books?? Did you read at all about Islam?? Maybe, just maybe you would have found answers?? I'm just curious.. I believe strongly that Man's purpose on earth is to serve Allah (s.w.t)... So please, if you did not do any of the above, just for the sake of answering your questions go back and read these books... I'll also like to recommend the Hadith that contains the Sunnah of Rasullulah(s.a.w)... I'd be very happy if you did... 4 Likes |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by princesamuel5(m): 4:02am On May 02, 2016 |
Ganjafama: You have been watching lucifer series lately abi. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Chuukwudi(m): 4:41am On May 02, 2016 |
HardMirror: Dont mind the quote, its just to give you a mention notification in other to call your attention. I'm very busy now but I havent finished reading your story. Instead of resorting to athesm, have you checked the grail message (In The Light Of Truth) and buhdism? Their doctrines and teachings are highly appealing to the human intellect. I have more to discuss with you later, we kinda have similar views and situations. I'm an anglican too. I do not desire to declare myself an atheist. What ever your term as the truth will be preyed into and analized by the grail movement. they'll give you some room to hear you out, with logical explanations. I dont presently blame myself if I dont give good so much reverence he desires/deserves. It rather pains me when my life becomes dirty, like a diversion from moral uprightness. Please, could you do me a favour? my signature is below and my contact is there too, I want to hear from you via whatsapp. Atheists struggle with there own theories and beliefs throughout life, I dont think its best idea, belive you me, I completely share the same opinion with you. I'll come back to finish reading. I'm on page 10. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by 2sexycom(m): 5:19am On May 02, 2016 |
My own version of being a christian is very different. I believe there is a God but I know lots and lots of pastor are into business and I urge all christian to build their own life business-wise just all Nigerians pastors are doing. Every Offering and Tithe is accounted for. They have an account book where everything goes into. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 5:28am On May 02, 2016 |
Never expected so many people to find this thread. And as I said before, I have given a lot of personal details. So sorry guys, no more updates. You saying my story is a lie does not make it a lie so those in this category can shove their opinion up their assssses cos I am not here to please you. Using Reverse-psychology won't help either. You try to discredit me while actually your aim is for me to give more details about myself then you would be able to determine were and how to rubbish me. I get all these tactics. You have no idea who you are dealing with. Will continue today anyway. Those who are here to preach and insult and what not should please save themselves all the stress. You all seem to be having a hard life. 2 Likes |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 5:29am On May 02, 2016 |
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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by sholay2011(m): 5:42am On May 02, 2016 |
HardMirror:It is well with you Bro. So, how far with those posts of yours that were pasted on the thread? And are you an atheist now, or you are of Satan? May God's grace bring you back to Him (that's if you're truly his in the first place). 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by peggycious(f): 6:13am On May 02, 2016 |
@Hardmirrow, it is well.ignore all the insults and pls continue the story. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by ValentineMary(m): 6:13am On May 02, 2016 |
olumose001:Actually people beliefs/non beliefs can be categorized 4 1. Gnostic theist: These set of people believe that there is a God and they are 100% sure (most theist belong here). 2. Agnostic theist: These people believe in a God but don't claim to be too sure. It might just be a silly story afterall. 3. Gnostic atheist: These guys don't believe in a God and and they are very sure. (these people are very few) 4. Agnostic atheist: These people don't believe in a God but agree that they might be wrong. (This is where I belong and also most atheist in this forum). 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by ossuofia1: 6:22am On May 02, 2016 |
jiggaz: Blah,blah, blah. Thank you. Now go and have a nice life. 3 Likes |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 6:23am On May 02, 2016 |
CONTINUATION... My gradual loss in believe in the bible kept growing. I can say 2010 was the year I was last a christian, 2011 was the year of researching christianity and asking the important questions, 2012 I made up my mind i have had enough of being afraid of the truth. We give a lot of excuses for god when things don't work out the way we expect and we praise god when coincidentally things fall in place. Had another incidence in 2010 which rattled my faith. One of my favorite books was "GOD's GENERALS" and the story of Kathrine KULMAN was my favorite. I got very carried away by one of her proteges BENNY HIN and really loved his book GOOD MORNING HOLY SPIRIT. I always felt I had a similar calling to Kathrine Kulman. So marriage was something I believed won't be for me. All I wanted was to fully give myself to God. So when ever I have the opportunity, I made sure I let the Spirit work fully. Manifesting so people would know God is real and affects their reality. I never felt anything is impossible for God. So early 2010 (before the idanre Outreach), we were on outreach to Ajabuto, a farming community in Ondo state. The head of the community was a blind man and they still served idols. In fact there was an idol right in from of the community head's house. This Outreach was a turning point in the lives of all ASF members that were involved. (We must have been more than 40 that were involved). Everyone that went on this outreach returned to futa fully convinced of the supernatural. For the first time in their lives, they were laying hands on the sick and casting out demons. That night as the villagers gathered and I preached, many never knew what to expect. When I began giving word of knowledge and people were coming out responding. I asked the other ASF members I was with to start praying for people laying hands on them. And the whole place exploded. I remember a brother coming to meet me after the program excited and saying he could not believe he layed hands on people and they were falling and reacting to the power of God. Many ASF members that were on this outreach got baptised in the spirit with evidence of speaking in tongues. It was spectacular. It was like being in the Shangrila of the Holy Spirit. We were confident God was ready to do anything and everything no matter how impossible it may seem. The community head did not attend the crusade so we visited him early in the morning the next day. Remember the man was blind and had an idol at the entrance to his house. Long story short, this man gave his life to christ that morning, abolished idol worshiping. BUT. How could we preach a God that is greater than all other gods, a God who is the Almighty, All powerful! All loving! A god we claim is better than his idol and yet leave this man blind. NO way! This man will see today! So we prayed that God should restore his sight. A simple prayer that did not work. Then we had to query the man if he lacked faith (I remember this incidence with sadness). The man was almost in tears, he kept shout ""Jesu Mogbagbo!" ("Jesus I believe!". ) Damn! "Heal me! I believe!" Seeing him in this condition asking Jesus to heal him touched me. I insisted we won't leave until he sees. We prayed and prayed and prayed. You can guess the rest. The man stayed the same. I could not sleep the night of that day. I kept asking, "why?" "Maybe the man lacked faith" common you can't be serious this man wanted to see badly, he wanted God to heal him. He was begging God with all his heart. "Maybe I was doing it to show off". Haba! I knew I wasn't. I felt bad for this poor man. There was absolutely no reason why God should not have healed that man. God was mute, he never told me why. Yet he promises that, "ANYTHING WE ASK IN HIS NAME SHALL BE GRANTED. ANYTHING!" "IF WE HAD FAITH LIKE A MUSTARD SEED WE WILL ASK MOUNTAINS TO BE UPROOTED AND THROWN INTO THE SEA" don't try to twist these scriptures. They are simple and straight forward, Problem is it does not work. Even if you have faith as big as pawpaw you can never command grass to be uprooted talkless of commanding mountain with mustard seed faith. God is a liar, he does not honor his promises. Deep in my heart I knew this was the answer, but I had a deep relationship with God that would never allow such to take root easily. But if God could not do this what can he now do? What was the value of his promises. His word that he has exulted above all His names? Indeed something was wrong. I can't continue to blame myself, the devil and people for God not doing what he promises even after all criterias has been met. And most annoying is he won't even reveal why he is not honouring his word, you have to keep guessing. Indeed something was wrong, I knew where the problem was, but it was terrifying to even think of it. So God takes glories for good things that coincidentally happens to man (hard work or coincidence), but we take the blame when God fails in his own end of the bargain continuation: https://www.nairaland.com/3085047/part-2-pastor-atheist-why#45297254 34 Likes 9 Shares |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 6:30am On May 02, 2016 |
I noticed I make a lot of typos. Pls ignore the mistakes, I can't go back and correct them now 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Immorttal: 6:30am On May 02, 2016 |
erusen:the number of atheist,freethinkers and agnostics are on daily rise.next millenium,the world would have move out of religion.The truth is rare and bitter. Welcome to the real world bro. 11 Likes |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Immorttal: 6:40am On May 02, 2016 |
nelsonoba:smh. hypnotism is real.if i ever ran out of finances,my exit route is to open a church and plunder them fools.Enough said. 11 Likes |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 6:50am On May 02, 2016 |
Ayomivic:Ha! You see the problem here? You have this mindset that man must "serve"a person, that deites exists for someone to either serve as a servant or a slave. But hey, we don't believe in that ish 2 Likes |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by H2Ossss(m): 7:08am On May 02, 2016 |
HardMirror: always thinking you are better than others.. he may be daft... but bro... u are dead... cuz you THINK you know... humble yourself bro... theres much for you to see and learn. |
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