johnydon22:


Only a man made God need man to make itself known to man. . . . All religions boast of the WORD OF GOD(s) but always notice that humans are the ones doing the talking and the writings for it.

.... And the kilkings for it

Zzyco:

Jesus, loves you!!.

And I love Kate Winslet.

johnydon22:


Lets plan then



Hahahahaha i have debated many, pastors, Jehovah witnesses even bus preachers, there is nothing new.

it will be fun... You game?

you do this stuff for fun ehh? lol

kolinz:


That was an assertion on my part, I was waiting for you to clear me on the issue of the origin of the universe and man the atheist way.
U have carefully avoided that part and want to dwell on my assertion.
Well, the universe according to science is over a billion year old, is it safe to say that man is also billions of years?

let the delusional being first prove that his great great grandfather existed before that one. It'll be too much for him to handle

H2Ossss:


you do this stuff for fun ehh? lol

Yes but in the real essence i do it out of respect for human intellect.

urahara:


Remember how i messed with that daftard yesterday , the idiot was buying everything.

lol... i remember.. quite funny.. but who your wisdom epp?

H2Ossss:

lol... i remember.. quite funny.. but who your wisdom epp?

hahahahaha nobody im wisdom epp oo my brother

H2Ossss:


lol... i remember.. quite funny.. but who your wisdom epp?

Any depressed soul who needed to laff

BecaciaBarbie:
Hahahaha funny thread! Your opinion tho....God is so real, He exists and answers prayers!!!!!!

God has done so much for me, made the impossible possible and He has really proven Himself in my life so many times....in fact everyday!!!! I'd be a fool to think He doesn't exists.


I loooooove You soooooooo much Baba God! Keep doing Your Great works!!!!

Give us one example please.

fabiano09:

Trust me critical thinking doesn't lead to a more fruitful life,infact its a burden . Most of us having conflicting thoughts about the existence of God are miserable or at most unhappy. Blind faith is equally a miserable existence but at least they are not aware of it so they escape the burden.

I can certainly see where being conflicted on the matter can lead to suffering (ie being "on the fence", struggling with your identity, the discomfort of going against social norms, & questioning the meaning of life in absense of the dogma that once provided a meaning - albeit a sh*t one). I was once there as well, and I think every person who transitions from religious to atheist goes through that phase.

But my life personally has improved a lot since I abandoned religion completely - as in got off the fence and delved into enriching my life in other ways. It has to do with perception and of course what you put in the place of what religion once gave you. The perception that life is meaningless because there is no deity, for example, can very well be replaced with the perception that life is incredibly precious simply because of the rarity and complexity of human existence.

I find myself in literal awe sometimes when I think of the trillions of tiny cells in my body, working like factories to keep me alive without any control on my part. I marvel when I learn new scientific facts about how my body & other biological systems work, & it makes me truly astounded by nature & it's possibilities. It also makes me passionate about helping others understand. Learning about the cosmos is equally, if not moreso awe-inspiring.

I'm also an avid reader of books on human psychology, including those involving the mastery of our minds through understanding our thoughts and emotions. I practice secular mindfulness meditation, a westernized, scientifically supported adaptation of Buddhist meditation, and it's given me a life-changing perspective on my mental space, and deep inner peace I never previously thought possible; certainly one I never experienced with Christianity. What I've learned has also tremendously helped me develop and nurture more fulfilling relationships. Sometimes with some of the books I read, I find myself wondering, "Imagine if books like these were passed out to the masses instead of the bible or Qu'ran? How much more peaceful, understanding, and wise the world would be."

Anyway, I don't want to bore you with the details of my life & interests lol. My point is, there are plenty of ways to restore (& exceed) the personal fulfillment that religion & god beliefs once brought, especially now that we have so much access to valuable information. Exploring those ways can be a very exciting journey when one enters the endeavor with an open mind and overcomes that initially painful & confusing transition out of belief. I sincerely believe that you, and others who are in your position, can get there.

urahara:


If god is so real, you wouldnt have to tell us

It is real to her.

Depends on what you called and call God. You are a part of what God is, every photon is part of the whole called God. We are a spark of God having an earthly experience. Earth itself is a bigger spark of God, so is the sun and the entire things in the universe and multiverses. Soul is the photon that powers all existence and brain is the interface that modulates the frequencies and channel the energy to our organs. This is purely scientific.I could not rationalize God without the science behind it.

Religion is just a tool that ignorant people use to seek God and its just too confusing. Yes, I was theist, I became atheist, still I am in the context of religion, pantheism made more sense, but then I am in that place of God realization that I came to know that the God I have been searching for, I am a part of it, I am God experiencing earthly existence.

Alfamann:


And I love Kate Winslet.

Isaiah 14:27 And all the forces of darkness cannot stop what God has ordained. Jesus is lord.

Watch this thread hit 60pages in less than one week. I can't evn keep up again with it,lol!
@op I would have wanted to tell you my observation so far about you(I took a quick sneak peek into your profile,cldnt go pass 3topics tho)but again I hate for people to throw words at me (so far I've been lucky)and so I'll keep it bottled within me,mak person no come insult me,lol!Not like I want to see you in person(evn tho I kno you've become a lil bit more secuity conscious afta dis whole episode,na make u no come co opt me ,lol!)But if I hav a way to talk to you,I will tell u.
Notn anyone can say to change you and I doubt anyone is still trying to(you hav been an atheist about 4yrs now froom ur writeup)
I sincerely do wish you well sha but abeg be humble o,don't take things for granted sha

@ jonnydon and urahara... really respect you guys.. wish God can reveal himself to you guys in a way you cant deny his existence.. i hope sooner rather than later.. and you open a thread saying 'once a born again atheist, now a Pastor'... lol... hardmirror complete our story ohh...

Check this nice site up www.skepticreport.com/sr/

BiafranNigerian:
Depends on what you called and call God. You are a part of what God is, every photon is part of the whole called God. We are a spark of God having an earthly experience. Earth itself is a bigger spark of God, so it the sun and the entire things in the universe and multiverses. Soul is the photon that powers all existence and brain is the interface that modulates the frequencies and channel the energy to our organs. This is purely scientific.I could not rationalize God without the science behind it.

Religion is just a tool that ignorant people use to seek God and its just too confusing. Yes, I was theist, I became atheist, still I am in the context of religion, pantheism made more sense, but then I am in that place of God realization that I came to know that the God I have been searching for, I am a part of it, I am God experience earthly existence.

chai.

udysweet:
Watch this thread hit 60pages in less than one week. I can't evn keep up again with it,lol!
@op I would have wanted to tell you my observation so far about you(I took a quick sneak peek into your profile,cldnt go pass 3topics tho)but again I hate for people to throw words at me (so far I've been lucky)and so I'll keep it bottled within me,mak person no come insult me,lol!Not like I want to see you in person(evn tho I kno you've become a lil bit more secuity conscious afta dis whole episode,na make u no come co opt me ,lol!)But if I hav a way to talk to you,I will tell u.
Notn anyone can say to change you and I doubt anyone is still trying to(you hav been an atheist about 4yrs now froom ur writeup)
I sincerely do wish you well sha but abeg be humble o,don't take things for granted sha

Thanks.
Please say your mind. Promise not to bite

HardMirror:

Thanks.
Please say your mind. Promise not to bite

The more you search for God, the more you will discover that you have been searching for yourself and all within the entire energy spectrum. I have been on the journey for almost 20years. Make no conclusion, there is always a plus factor.

Alokendra:

This was the genesis of my transition to agnosticism. It is very difficult to be a humanist and still remain a christian.

I remember when I was in the university, I was very passionate about helping people. In the course of denying myself of many stuffs while helping people, I lost my laptop. My laptop was stolen because I took a 5 mins nap. I was so tired because I sacrificed my entire day to help some students know a difficult topic better.

After my laptop was stolen, it was as of my life wanted to crumble. I had so many stuffs in there. My final year project was in there. 98% of my life's work was in there. I was devastated. I became furious, and rage was burning in me. I wanted revenge and I was ready to sell my soul to anything just to have my revenge.

I have always heard from friends that Ilara mokin is notorious for voodoo. I went there and met with all manners of people who were d
ready to help me take the soul of the culprit. I later met with an old man and he gave me substance that I should wake up in the midnight and recite some stuffs that within three days I'd see the blood of that person. That was where I started becoming uncomfortable. I didn't see myself taking the life of another. I couldn't stomach it. I'm the kind of person that I will never hurt a fly. The humanist side of me overwhelmed me and I told the baba that I can't . That I do not want anything to happen to the person again. I paid him and left. It was a very painful experience.

My point is - if a mere mortal like me cannot stomach the thought of hurting someone or taking someone else's life, how much a 'loving father' that has been painted as the most loving and the best thing that has ever happen to mankind. How could such a person now chose to roast people in hell for not believing in him and for a meagre offence. This is the height of barbarism. How could a person be so blood thirsty.
And it's not as if he will burn them for a short time. He will burn them forever. Haba! Even if I make even, I'll never be comfortable that some people are actually burning. God and I will have to slug it out

So they stole your laptop and you ended up just dashing babalawo money, you fvcked up o.

I had a similar experience in my final year in secondary school.

My purse with money, phone and one of my dad's sim card in it, was stolen in the hall after our mock exam one day, and I knew I was in big trouble because of that sim card. That's how some people told me of one woman somewhere, who sees past events in a mirror, my friends suggested we go, (even though I have never been one to believe in juju,it always caused a fight between me and my people even as a teenager then, I couldn't explain anything explicitly o but it just never made sense) but see me na, a desperate and angry girl, I forward marched to the place with my squad.

On getting there, the mamalawo's receptionist told us she doesn't come out till 4 pm(i never knew we had vampire babalawos/mamalawos till that day), we were made to wait and after what seemed like eons, the orobo woman came out, led us into one smelly small hut, I could see my friends getting scared but I was silently praying this woman please be the real deal. She asked me what brought us, I explained, she said I'd pay a certain fee I don't remember the exact amount, I did, then she instructed us to go buy white kola nuts, alligator pepper and some sort of native chalk, we went, bought the items came back, handed them over and she asked me if I wanted the person mad or dead, after singing one fake song she just composed right there, I was like , madam I just want my purse and things in it ni.

There I was, hoping that this woman would show me who stole my stuff in the mirror, only for this oloriburuku of a woman to say that, there's no other way, that it's either the person dies or runs mad, Tbh I felt like puncturing her fat stomach that day for wasting my time and money but I just told her to forget about the whole thing, all she was able to achieve was give me proof of all the talk about juju being hogwash.

Anyways what am I saying? I'm saying that, if we humans can decide not to hurt people who genuinely wronged us, then a god who decides to burn people in an endless fire for doing absolutely nothing, but exercise their freewill of not choosing to worship him, then he is not only a psychopath but a dumb one at that and the idea of such a god, should be vehemently discouraged.

BiafranNigerian:

The more you search for God, the more you will discover that you have been searching for yourself and all within the entire energy spectrum. I have been on the journey for almost 20years. Make no conclusion, there is always a plus factor.

HmMm

HardMirror:
I would be rounding up with my next post. But before that.

I DID NOT OPEN THIS TOPIC TO MAKE PEOPLE DROP THEIR RELIGION
This thread is only to make information available to those who need this information. I did not have the privilege of reading such a story when I was going through my identity crisis.
It is to educate and make information available ONLY to those who need it.

This is the story of a real person and the details given are all verifiable.

I know thousands appreciate me coming out with this. If you find comfort in god all good for you. It takes a lot of courage to drop god and only very responsible people can dare it. If you are not strong and ready to take full responsible for your life and actions, pls keep your religion. Dropping religion is not a joke. No false hope to keep you going, you face reality squarely.

Thanks everyone for the comments so far.

I am here to have fun. I have opened some ridiculous threads in the past and I will open more in future. Not here to please anyone.

Will be signing out soon. Already missing romance section were we discuss rubbish.

Bros, I really appreciate your courage "e no easy" that part you mentioned "denouncing religion openly can make one lose goodwill" is very true, people like us play along and shout the louder Amennnnnnnnnnnn!!!.



So you too dey enter romance Lolzzz, take it easy ooo!

Remember St Paul says no bleebing until you marry...lolzzz

H2Ossss:
@ jonnydon and urahara... really respect you guys.. wish God can reveal himself to you guys in a way you cant deny his existence.. i hope sooner rather than later.. and you open a thread saying 'once a born again atheist, now a Pastor'... lol... hardmirror complete our story ohh...

Hahahahaha a public announcement as God allegedly did during Jesus' baptism in the bible would be nice.

We wonder how God went awol when we got video cameras after he usually showed his talents well in the bible

Let me draw out another discussion that i will take On when my phone is charged..

You know the bible paints a human-like God, even has a back as moses saw so more or less looks like humans.

Do you have that idea of a personal (can be said to be a person) God?

BiafranNigerian:
Depends on what you called and call God. You are a part of what God is, every photon is part of the whole called God. We are a spark of God having an earthly experience. Earth itself is a bigger spark of God, so it the sun and the entire things in the universe and multiverses. Soul is the photon that powers all existence and brain is the interface that modulates the frequencies and channel the energy to our organs. This is purely scientific.I could not rationalize God without the science behind it.

Religion is just a tool that ignorant people use to seek God and its just too confusing. Yes, I was theist, I became atheist, still I am in the context of religion, pantheism made more sense, but then I am in that place of God realization that I came to know that the God I have been searching for, I am a part of it, I am God experience earthly existence.

Hhmmm pantheisn... Profound Philosophy!

freecocoa:
So they stole your laptop and you ended up just dashing babalawo money, you fvcked up o.

I had a similar experience in my final year in secondary school.

My purse with money, phone and one of my dad's sim card in it, was stolen in the hall after our mock exam one day, and I knew I was in big trouble because of that sim card. That's how some people told me of one woman somewhere, who sees past events in a mirror, my friends suggested we go, (even though I have never been one to believe in juju,it always caused a fight between me and my people even as a teenager then, I couldn't explain anything explicitly o but it just never made sense) but see me na, a desperate and angry girl, I forward marched to the place with my squad.

On getting there, the mamalawo's receptionist told us she doesn't come out till 4 pm(i never knew we had vampire babalawos/mamalawos till that day), we were made to wait and after what seemed like eons, the orobo woman came out, led us into one smelly small hut, I could see my friends getting scared but I was silently praying this woman please be the real deal. She asked me what brought us, I explained, she said I'd pay a certain fee I don't remember the exact amount, I did, then she instructed us to go buy white kola nuts, alligator pepper and some sort of native chalk, we went, bought the items came back, handed them over and she asked me if I wanted the person mad or dead, after singing one fake song she just composed right there, I was like , madam I just want my purse and things in it ni.

There I was, hoping that this woman would show me who stole my stuff in the mirror, only for this okoriburuku of a woman to say that, there's no other way, that it's either the person dies or runs mad, Tbh I felt like puncturing her fat stomach that day for wasting my time and money but I just told her to forget about the whole thing, all she was able to achieve was give me proof that of all the talk about juju being hogwash.

Anyways what am I saying? I'm saying that, if we humans can decide not to hurt people who genuinely wronged us, then a god who decides to burn people in an endless fire for doing absolutely nothing, but choosing to exercise their freewill of not choosing to worship him, then he is not only a psychopath but a dumb one at that and the idea of such a god, should be vehemently discouraged.

I really enjoyed your story. Scammers everywhere

virginboy1:


Bros, I really appreciate your courage "e no easy" that part you mentioned "denouncing religion openly can make one lose goodwill" is very true, people like us play along and shout the louder Amennnnnnnnnnnn!!!.



So you too dey enter romance Lolzzz, take it easy ooo!

Remember St Paul says no bleebing until you marry...lolzzz

Loooooool!!!!
Na so o

No o. Bleeping ke? Small boy like me?

Alfamann:


chai.

Diaris god ooooo

johnydon22:


Lets be fair nobody actually thought of it when you are neck deep in a religious belief only when you unshackle from it.

Very true boss... Very true.

Alfamann:


chai.

Diaris god ooooo

BEWARE!!! 2thessalonians 2:12 AND ALL OF THEM WOULD BE JUSTLY JUDGED FOR BELIEVING FALSEHOOD, REFUSING THE TRUTH, AND ENJOYING THEIR SINS.

Udysweet, don't be shy. Speak for your servant heareth.

johnydon22:


Hhmmm pantheisn... Profound Philosophy!

The quest for God is the most thrilling adventure. The moment you realize this single puzzle, everything makes sense. Experiencing Gaia (Earth) is the goal of the entire matrix. You will, as soon as you know this truth laugh at the rat race. The earth is transitioning to a higher frequency as we move to the next phase of existence, and those who cant cope are signing out to other denser frequency planets.