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Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads / Part 3: Pastor To Atheist: Ask Me Any Question I Will Answer If Safe For Me / PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again (2) (3) (4)
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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by johnydon22(m): 11:08pm On May 02, 2016 |
wordcat: Yeah but we could organize seminars for discussions for irreligious folks .. Atheists, agnostics, pantheists, deists and what have you. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by wordcat(m): 11:16pm On May 02, 2016 |
johnydon22: Not a bad idea but involving muslims is a no no no. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 11:17pm On May 02, 2016 |
Religion is all about phsychology, theres this guy in my area, we are friends, buh he hates me, he very religious, i seldom go to church.. Most times these days, i only go to church to show off my new clothes, shoes etc. I was arguing with the guy about the church one day.. I told him pastors should have other jobs apart from pastoring.. I even made reference to Jesus disciples that they had other sources of income.. He told me that the word of God is their work, i just laughed at him... The guy got angry and hit me with his pen.. I i belive in the Existence of a supreme being, but he is very different from what they are saying he is in churches,.. Religious people are violent, they will go to any point to prove the superiority of Their own version of God.. I dont pray again, i talk to God.. Atheists are smart people sha.. But Nigeria is a primative jungle, 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by johnydon22(m): 11:19pm On May 02, 2016 |
wordcat: Lets leave out Muslims and Christians and other organized religions out of it for now... Just organize our talk show among ourselves and discuss |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by urahara(m): 11:21pm On May 02, 2016 |
djdoxxx: The dude needs a checkup from the neck up. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by wordcat(m): 11:29pm On May 02, 2016 |
johnydon22: Location matters, most atheists here on nairaland are in Lagos |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by johnydon22(m): 11:32pm On May 02, 2016 |
wordcat:we'll put that into consideration, Lag will be a good place though |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Image123(m): 11:34pm On May 02, 2016 |
wirinet: Lol,he can't do the miraculous for long. There's a price for spiritual power, whether godly or not. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by wordcat(m): 11:37pm On May 02, 2016 |
johnydon22:I suggest u open a thread to get others view about it. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by johnydon22(m): 11:38pm On May 02, 2016 |
wordcat:I will in time |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Image123(m): 11:40pm On May 02, 2016 |
HardMirror: Interesting point and interesting persona i must say.Though not 100% true. There are real miracles and deliverances where you don't even know or are impressed by anybody. Your posts have touched on some other issues I'll like to comment on. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by cocktopuss: 11:43pm On May 02, 2016 |
Affluentkess: There would have been rapid technological advancement... Humans have free will to be good or bad. The society however would have provided laws to ensure that people behave responsibly, so the impact of religion on societal order is over emphasized...... A "religiousless" world would be a beautiful one. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Image123(m): 11:45pm On May 02, 2016 |
HardMirror: Maybe you should try the same message using another god and another name,then observe if it produces the same effect and transformation. The power that cleanses sin and turns vile offenders into life saints is greater than psychology. 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Image123(m): 11:47pm On May 02, 2016 |
cocktopuss: Like the Communists and the barbarians. 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by wordcat(m): 11:49pm On May 02, 2016 |
johnydon22:Till then bro. Good 9t |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 12:54am On May 03, 2016 |
THEY CANT REASON O 2 Likes
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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Image123(m): 1:02am On May 03, 2016 |
HardMirror: We are to preach to all nations, we are not told to make sure that people don't perish. i wonder where you got that. That would be an impossible task because we are already told and know that people will perish, so how will we be told to make sure that people do not perish? Also, it is not a task given to one person to do. Even Jesus and the disciples and Paul did not get everybody saved, so which one is your own that the pressure is so much on your neck? Good, we should have compassion and passion for souls, but it is never meant at our detriment. The cases of Moses and Paul are very clear. they wanted others to take their place but it is impossible. Not everyone christian are evangelists, or given the gift of being evangelists though we are all to be witnesses. Where you got the FACT about how soulwinning must be done, not sure your source of info is credible. That's a big problem, people put their good opinions and ideas as the Word of God, and get others all stirred up on what nobody really sent them. Some people get saved, and initial reaction is like no more work, no marriage, nothing, they just want to go to heaven and live for the gospel etc. It looks high and lofty and pious but nobody commanded that, although we have seen pastors and denominations that misled others into such a position. Another thing about your shock and reality-check about God's love and reaction, there is nothing new under the sun. It is not an eureka moment or a new discovery for those who truly know and observe God. From Adam, one would have expected God to send in Jesus and the calvary the next day after throwing man out of the garden of Eden. He didn't even send common Moses for centuries, not to mention J. Rom 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come. Okay, Jesus finally comes some thousands of years later and is busy doing "nothing" for 30years except for making cupboards, chairs and stuff like that. Jesus who created hell and knows all about it, whose mission and name is called Jesus to save people from their sins. He did not even go and die and let the salvation start, He still went up and down for 3years or thereabout, walking on water, feeding people with bread and teaching in boats. The one it is peppering you like body-hug, you should have gently followed your 'Master Jesus' and observe His style instead of being more catholic than the pope. Another truth is this, God loves men, and does not want any man to perish. However, He is not desperate or hopeless without it. Man is the one that actually needs Him, not the other way round. The whole world is as nothing, as sorry, less than nothing actually. His doing a favour of giving eternal life is not out of His desperation or helplessness. That's the position IF you can rightly perceive the context. About people going to hell before the gospel reaches them, yes they would. That is the answer, not the clever or unclever answer. Ignorance is not an excuse. You have something metallic on you, the metal detector would not let you go as it were. It is not about how good you are, or your height, beauty, intelligence, knowledge, or ignorance. It just would detect it. That is the way sin is. If you don't have eternal life, you don't have it. No matter how pitiful or challenging your story is. In Heaven, they are not desperately in need of humans there. This is the plain truth people decide not to see, yet it is in every Bible. So the 'shocking discovery' is uncalled for. It takes nothing away. 2 Likes |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Image123(m): 1:04am On May 03, 2016 |
Lilbrown007: Actually, it is atheists that i've found to always completely avoid all said. Watch them avoid me like a plague, it's a miracle to see atheists truly reason. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 1:05am On May 03, 2016 |
Image123:AND WHATS THAT?? |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by frank317: 1:12am On May 03, 2016 |
absoluteSuccess: Seriously, are u sure u are alright? |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Image123(m): 1:19am On May 03, 2016 |
HardMirror: This is a ridiculous assertion probably backed up by your little years of experience only. You've not lived 100years i guess? Meanwhile, the Bible refers to people called reprobates, and to people called apostates. Of course it is not all backsliders or atheists that were never true christians, though many were never true christians. In my little experience, 95% were never true christians or strong christians. Many of them just went to church or were born in church, forced to church, lived with christian workers/pastors. But we do have some that were indeed genuine believers like Demas, like Judas who had indeed had intimacy with the truth. So many are said to come on judgement day even thinking they are christians and are not(Matthew7:21-23). When one is not watchful and careful, anyone can fall even Peter. 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Image123(m): 1:20am On May 03, 2016 |
Lilbrown007: What's what? |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 1:24am On May 03, 2016 |
Image123:WHAT DID YOU ASK THAT WEREN'T ANSWERED?? |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Image123(m): 1:25am On May 03, 2016 |
HardMirror: People have mental pronblems due to different reasons, mostly stress and lack of sleep. We all have bodies to take care of and Bible actually commands rest. So if someone runs mad studying hard, or due to work or marital challenges, we don't condemn or sneer at education, or employment or marriage. We get the root cause and tackle it. i thought you were the logical ones? 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Image123(m): 1:27am On May 03, 2016 |
Lilbrown007: i responded with logic and reason, and they completely avoided everything i said. i see/predict the same thing happening here, though some will attempt to save face but i'm expecting the usual, they cannot really discuss. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 1:32am On May 03, 2016 |
Image123:DID U GET MY QUESTION AT ALL?? I SAID WHAT DID U ASK THAT WEREN'T ANSWERED?? |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Image123(m): 1:37am On May 03, 2016 |
HardMirror: There is nothing incredible in the prosperity of a sinner or unbeliever or in their suffering. The Scriptures affirm both. 1Pe 5:9 Whom resist steadfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Image123(m): 1:39am On May 03, 2016 |
Lilbrown007: Ask where? i did not talk about asking questions, did i? i said and say that your picture posted is actually the other way round. That is, when you reason logically with an atheist, they completely avoid everything you say. They begin to resort to sentiments and emotions and begin to try to guilt trip you into thinking you are wicked, heartless etc. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Image123(m): 1:42am On May 03, 2016 |
HardMirror: i understand you are no more a christian, but this is plain dishonesty or gross inexperience. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 1:45am On May 03, 2016 |
Image123:I DON'T THINK THATS THE CASE CAUSE I STILL HAVEN'T SEEN ANY LOGICAL POINT ANY RELIGIOUS INDIVIDUAL HAS GIVEN ON THIS THREAD THEY ONLY QUOTE FROM THE BIBLE |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Image123(m): 1:49am On May 03, 2016 |
Lilbrown007: Fine and fair, though not logical. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Image123(m): 1:53am On May 03, 2016 |
seemples: Lol, i think in this case, he's actually though unfortunately telling the truth. The mark and style is there. |
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