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Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads / Part 3: Pastor To Atheist: Ask Me Any Question I Will Answer If Safe For Me / PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again (2) (3) (4)
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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Lessonteacher(f): 12:06pm On May 03, 2016 |
HardMirror:can you be too sure about God not existing? What if u were wrong? Don't you think matters like thez are deeper than our imagination? If you think the bible story is fairy tale, can you tell us the real one about how everything came to be? |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 12:08pm On May 03, 2016 |
urahara:I don't even give a damn about them. They think I am lying even tho I am verifiable. And I am communicating with them directly, able to answer any question they ask me. But choose to believe god no one can verify and ask questions. 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 12:10pm On May 03, 2016 |
Lessonteacher:If god is real, which god is the real one? Does anyone have the answer to this? 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by swaggzo(m): 12:10pm On May 03, 2016 |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by swaggzo(m): 12:11pm On May 03, 2016 |
Millex: HE ISN'T LIKE MAN? OH! WHAT'S HE LIKE THEN? 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by santori: 12:16pm On May 03, 2016 |
swaggzo: lols. and their book of lies says man was created in God's image. they will always contradict themselves 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 12:17pm On May 03, 2016 |
Millex:WELL BUT ELIJAH DID IT NA OR WAS GOD NOT THINKING STRAIGHT THEN?? |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by swaggzo(m): 12:18pm On May 03, 2016 |
otemanuduno: WHERE'D THE COMPOSERS OF THESE THEORIES GET THEIR IDEAS FROM?? THINGS THAT HAPPENED EVEN BEFORE THE EVOLUTION?... |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by swaggzo(m): 12:28pm On May 03, 2016 |
santori: THEY KNOW NUTTING BRO THEY JUST SPEND THEIR LIVES HIDING UNDER THE CARPET OF PRETENCE AND FEAR! 2 Likes |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Lessonteacher(f): 12:32pm On May 03, 2016 |
HardMirror:im not religous... cant u see some form of resemblance in what they stand for? Imagine how the world would have been without religion from the start. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 12:42pm On May 03, 2016 |
Lessonteacher: Lessonteacher:reason why majority should remain ignorant |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by NiRfreak(m): 12:42pm On May 03, 2016 |
musicwriter:I'm surprised you dnt know he knows better now. All your analysis isnt necessary. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 12:42pm On May 03, 2016 |
johnydon22:. Hell No. The main problem of sci-fi novels not working in Nigeria is that Nigerian youths find Sci-fi novels foreign,( as if thrillers and romance novels are local ), as they focus mainly on events/scenarios that occurs in a developed country. The solution is for the sci-fi writer to introduce some superstitious belief and explain him using deductive reasoning or better still, say it cannot be explained using logic. Trust me, Nigerians will eat the stuff up. It will also help if your foreword says something like " I give thanks to God Almighty........" 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 12:55pm On May 03, 2016 |
SirWere:Hehehehehehe Chai! No o. Not publishing in Nigeria |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 12:58pm On May 03, 2016 |
HardMirror:Why naa......... Have you forgotten there is no place like home :p |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Image123(m): 1:02pm On May 03, 2016 |
cloudgoddess: He said he wanted to raise his kids free, to maintain the default stance from birth. That they can develop their own ideas. i helped him to make it complete. Why would he want them half free, is it not sensible for them to be completely free and default? |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by NiRfreak(m): 1:08pm On May 03, 2016 |
tohpahz:Lets be wary of our questions, it exposes the level of our intellect too quickly......(pained) |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 1:13pm On May 03, 2016 |
analice107: Dear ma'm, you need to take a break. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by swaggzo(m): 1:17pm On May 03, 2016 |
SirWere: MY MAN YOU WON'T BELIEVE THE NUMBER OF GOD'S CHILDREN FOLLOWING THIS THREAD ON CODE, WAITING FOR US TO LOSE OUR GUARD IN ANYWAY SO THEY CAN RUN INTO US DRASTICALLY 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 1:18pm On May 03, 2016 |
Lessonteacher: We do not completely know, but the most reasonable explanation right now is the big bang theory. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 1:21pm On May 03, 2016 |
swaggzo: They have tried every means..... I mean, the thread is on page 35 and the op has not even finished his story 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Image123(m): 1:21pm On May 03, 2016 |
HardMirror: How on earth are people not expected to quote the Bible in defending the Bible? Are you guys not quoting or paraphrasing the Bible in accusing it? Please make sense. All your ideas about hell and heaven and God and His "wicked" ways, are they not from the Bible, are they from Ugo C Ugo? So you want to sound logical and reasonable to show that God is unreasonable, but you do not want us to show that God is reasonable using the same Bible? Hypocrisy not well thought out. Why on earth do i have to prove that the Bible is God's Word? Am i preaching to you or telling you that it is God's Word? Why did you not prove that the Bible is God's Word before you made your views and opinions about Him known? You have come with your ideas and strong opinions on how christians should live, preach, evangelize etc. But you do not want me to quote the Bible to show you how it is done there? Are christians following your opinion or the Bible? Of course, i have to reference the Bible to show how Jesus, God and others took saving the world etc. you are not the standard, your feeling or suggestion is not the standard. You came and was all talk about how christians are not atheists because they do not ask question, that if any christian should ask question he will become an atheist. Of course i had to show you from the Bible that your experiences are not new. There are people in the Bible who have faced similar and more and still stayed with God, so don't come painting the idea that people are only christians because they don't think or because they don't ask questions. i don't need you to reply me, but i need you to think since you claim that is what you want to do. i did not cry or complain about being unnoticed, what on earth do i need the notice for?Being active here for long BTW. i was only replying that fellow who posted a picture that christians/theists avoid everything reason or logic. i predicted to him that the same will happen here proving my point, and it indeed happened. When you respond to an atheist with logic and reason against what he thinks, they completely avoid everything you said. They begin to talk about not wasting their time etc as they've met their match. Actually, it happens in both sides of an argument though. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Image123(m): 1:31pm On May 03, 2016 |
HardMirror: Good, just wanted to confirm that you indeed recall that the supernatural(not natural) is real. Malaria kills millions of peple in africa every year, so it's profitable and good to hear an atheist affirm that these can be cured using supernatural means. Like i've already said, you painted the picture like you case is a discovery and eye opener. That christians are christians because they have not asked questions or began to think. Good to hear/read you say that is not true. People have always asked questions and thought since time immemorial. Many people have being convinced to different sides to the divide based on reasoning too. It is not only atheistic convewrsions that employ reasoning. Paul reasoned with people several times, some were converted, some were not. People make choices based on reasoning and logic, some make their choices and decisions based on emotion. That is the way life is. It is not the exclusive preserve of atheism. i have seen many cases of people who are still christian and know that their efforts could never have gotten them to where they were today. Christianity does not say that efforts don't matter, actually faith without efforts is dead. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 1:37pm On May 03, 2016 |
Image123:You desperately sort attention and I gave you attention. Don't be offended that I won't be replying you. Don't want to be insulting so better to not tell you how you sound. 5 Likes |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Image123(m): 1:39pm On May 03, 2016 |
johnydon22: Wrong again like you are on many presumptuous grounds. i don't need your attention, i have never needed it. i don't know you neither do i need to. i've been an active member of the forum for many years without needing your attention. In fact, it is the attention of folks like you that makes me stay away from the religion section of the forum. It's no longer like before where some atheists were actually intelligent and could actually engage. People like you make me begin to appreciate the likes of thehomer, saw him post recently, it's been a while. Don't remember the names of some of the others. What we have today are wannabes copying and pasting ideas only, incapable of free and independent thought, looking for fellowship, likes, shares, how to meet other atheists bla bla bla. i don't usually have time for such people as i consider them a waste of my time, but for the great commission the OP overdramatized. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Image123(m): 1:40pm On May 03, 2016 |
HardMirror: You don't want to because you would only resort to insults not reason. It's the prediction fulfilled of course. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by swaggzo(m): 1:45pm On May 03, 2016 |
[s]] Image123:[/s] YOU SOUND HORNIY. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by otemanuduno: 1:58pm On May 03, 2016 |
Yahweh is Satan in a wonderful make-up. It is even better to serve idol than to serve Yahweh. Why? Idol won't send you to hell when you die, but Yahweh, he will surely send his worshippers to hell. THANK GOD FOR EARTUM WHO REVEALED THE TRUTH TO ME. NOW MY BRAIN CANNOT BE TRAPPED BY MERCI |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Image123(m): 2:03pm On May 03, 2016 |
frank317: God does not expect that you reason like Him, in fact He says that you do not. Lemme remind you. Isa 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. Always read the fine prints of a contract, or get someone to help you before signing. Anyone who knows God or knows the Word of God knows that you would not get everything you ask for everytime. When you understand someone or a process, it works better for you. For instance, the yorubas will say "i want to come and be going", that makes little sense or a contradiction to English grammar. Or for instance in an establishment or institution, they have their codes. The codes a pilot is hearing from the control tower may be in English but mean something very different to what you expect. Same way in every house, family, organisation, they have their ways of understanding one another. Anyone that understands and studies the Word of God will know that prayer has clauses. you don't just pick a verse or a couple of passages and run away. You study the whole Bible for a more rounded understanding. Jesus'disciples carried their mother to come and ask Jesus anything like He had promised, they were not given. Mat 20:20 Then came to him the mother of Zebedee's children with her sons, worshiping him, and desiring a certain thing of him. Mat 20:21 And he said unto her, What wilt thou? She saith unto him, Grant that these my two sons may sit, the one on thy right hand, and the other on the left, in thy kingdom. Mat 20:22 But Jesus answered and said, Ye know not what ye ask. Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? They say unto him, We are able. Mat 20:23 And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father. Paul prayed for something three times, he did not get the answer he wanted. 2Co 12:8 For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me. 2Co 12:9 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. They prayed for Timothy to be well, later on they had to tell him to take medicine for his infirmity. Trophimus was left at Miletus sick. David prayed and fasted for his sick son and the son died. And so many others. So someone coming here acting all shocked and becoming atheist because God did not answer his prayers was grossly ignorant of the Word of God. If you like from today till you die, ask God in faith to destroy hell fire, it will not be done. But God said you should ask anything in Jesus' name, or ask to be the president of the US. It is not everybody that will get a yes to that. About the blind man not been healed, i cannot say why. Maybe healing the man's eyes wasn't a priority for God. Maybe God even helped him. Come to think of it, the blind man might actually still be a strong believer or may have died as one. Meanwhile, someone whose ego wasn't pampered is here weeping more than the bereaved. Maybe, his eyes can take eternal life away from him, and God just left him that way to see the kingdom. Because in Bible, if your eye or hand etc offend you, cut it off as it were. Affliction and afflicted people are usually close to God and trust God and believe God than people who have no challenges. Annie Johnson Flint was a paraplegic who served God despite much affliction, a story is quite a touching one. And so are many others. 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Image123(m): 2:04pm On May 03, 2016 |
swaggzo: What does it mean to be horniy? |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by otemanuduno: 2:12pm On May 03, 2016 |
Image123: The supernatural is indeed real. All the gods indeed existed, including your god called Yahweh/Allah who is the most jealous of them all. After the First world was over, the real God, Domino Reverad commanded that the gods should not have anything to do with humans again. And all the gods, from the history of the past events of the past world of the home erectus, etc. which they have gathered, they made up books. Yahweh made up his own also, copying from other gods like Krish(hence the word Christ), Brahma(changed to Abraham), Asherah(goddess edited to Sarah), god called Sol(hence a change of name to Saul, then to Paul), Appolo(left unchanged but used in the Bible), Sin(changed to mean evil). Now the WORD was with Yahweh already. What was left for him was to control our own world with that word. Then he began to give these word to the scribes to write them down. Little wonder it was written that ANY SPIRIT THAT SAYS JESUS DOES NOT COME IN THE FLESH IS AN ANTICHRIST. you know, when you know that people will suspect you, you put down stuffs like that. And the funniest aspect of it is Hebrews 11. Faith is the SUBSTANCE OF THINGS HOPED FOR, THE EVIDENCE OF THINGS NOT SEEN. All the people who existed thousands of years before JESUS CHRIST have been seen in the books of histories and their images are everywhere, but JESUS CHRIST and all his disciples are totally NOWHERE TO BE FOUND. not even a single picture of our loving JESUS was found, yet they made him king of KINGS and he rode on donkey. LIARS. I PITY PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE THAT JESUS CHRIST ACTUALLY CAME IN THE FLESH IN THIS OUR OWN WORLD. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by analice107: 2:16pm On May 03, 2016 |
SirWere:Take a break from what? |
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