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Investigation Of Hardmirror's Claims In "Pastor To Atheist" Threads / Part 3: Pastor To Atheist: Ask Me Any Question I Will Answer If Safe For Me / PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again (2) (3) (4)
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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Image123(m): 2:17pm On May 03, 2016 |
SirWere: The big bang is reasonable? |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by otemanuduno: 2:22pm On May 03, 2016 |
Image123: I quote the book of Knoliud 15:32-43 32. The creatures of the past shall benefit those of the future, and without the past creatures, the future creatures shall not survive. 33. And in millions of years to come, the future people shall get almost all their energies from the people of the past. 34. Only the energy of the sun shall surpass the energies to get from the creatures of the past. 35. This is the purpose of death; for without death shall no man benefit. And those who are not afraid of dying shall be the only ones to be empowered. 36. For the fear of death shall bring about the limitation of knowledge and power. 37. And in the future shall many be made to fear death by one of the sons of God. 38. He shall forbid them do things that will make them use their brains, but instead, he shall set leaders over them to put their intentions into check such that they shall invent no single thing. 39. They shall also not discover any work of God because they shall think it as abomination and evil to discover the works of God. 40. And they shall die in their ignorances, creating no useful impact in the world but noise. 41. And they shall not invent anything but noise while they use the inventions of the people that are not afraid of death. Yet they shall condemn the people whose inventions they are using. 42. And when Knoliud was still saying all these, Nymphidis{Yahweh} began to smile greatly to himself. Yahweh is just a son to Reverad the real God, yet he brags so much as if he is powerful. Mumu Yahweh. 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by nynbrada: 2:23pm On May 03, 2016 |
johnydon22: Johnydon Baba, just cool down for yourself. Stop sounding over confident with this your presumption. I'm putting it to you that the day you meet with me one on one and have a rapport wit me, all these your atheistic worldview would be smashed to smitherines in the proccess of time. Suffice it to say that there are Christian and levels of Christians. That apart, i look foward to giving you a "holla" for some stuffs like that, alongside my brother KingEbukasBlog when the time is right and most importantly Gods willing. For Hardmirror all i will say to you now is to cool down for Jesus. Fact: you are going through a very rough patch in your relationship with God. Cause: God wasn't reponding to certain things you where expecting from him at the course of ministry, e.g the healing saga you mentioned, your view on his position and personal effort in saving the lost and maybe other reasons you are yet to mention. Problem1: you were trying to engage him with human logic to evaluate his own side of contribution and faithfulness to his word as far as salvation is concerned and to make matter worse you were unknowingly doing it with a spirit of pride. Absolving yourself whenever there is a shortcoming and passing the buck at God. Solution: you can never rationalize Gods way with human logic. Always remember his ways are not your way and his thought not your thought. Faith and Logic don't mix. Also even if even if in your weak moment you want to engage him logically, do it with a sense of humility, then he will answer you one way or the other at his own time. He is the boss, he runs the show and calls the shot. Problem 2: This unsavoury relationship has now led you to believe that all those manifestation of the Spirit you had durning days of ministration are something any one can do if they decide to trian and develop themselve in doing it. Fact: Not true and partially true. Not true - because what you experienced was the literal power of God based on his level of anionting upon you. Man cannot of his own natural abiltity do those things. Partially true - because man can tap into the spiritual realm thru the back door e.g, native doctors, psychics, the occults etc. But when you go through these back doors, you subject yourself to demonic manipulation. The guy you talked about that was communicating with the dead was only doing it thru demonic medium. You know it to be so but now the devil has blinded you into thinking the fellow did it because of natural abilities and even now you now think that the issue of witches are nothing but religious unsavoury fantasies. But i wii only ask you these, do you believe the occultic world is real, if not what do you have to say about Ogboni fraternity and the likes. You also talked about still speaking in tongue whenever you feel disturbed, well i can guarante you that if you do not return to the lord that gift will sooner or later die naturally or just dry up and if you try to force it the highest you will get will be a demonic possession of your spirit causing you to speak in esotoric language. I'm not trying to invoke fear into you but i'm feeding you spiritual realities you are probably not aware of. Moreso if you think those healing you experienced were not Gods making but as a result of your own natural gift and ability i humbly challenge you to go and try and heal the sick or seek healing for your personal self without looking up to God and see if you wii get any result. Final Bullet: I counsel you to try and retrace your step back to the Lord. His has worked through you once, he is still willing to do it again and maybe in a bigger way. Note, don't be deceived by these atheists here on NL showering you with kind and encouraging words, some of them may wound up being ministers of the gospel tomorrow. Especially johnydon22. Take good care. 8 Likes |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by davien(m): 2:24pm On May 03, 2016 |
Image123:In the context of science yes, but for the uneducated or willfully ignorant no... 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Image123(m): 2:28pm On May 03, 2016 |
otemanuduno: Oops, what exactly do you want? |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by otemanuduno: 2:31pm On May 03, 2016 |
davien:The Big Bang is made by the true GOD called DOMINO REVERAD, Yahweh is just a disobedience son of his. Read full story from this link: www.nairaland.com/2938907/doctrine-ufos |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Image123(m): 2:36pm On May 03, 2016 |
davien: About 4.6billion years ago, does that even make sense? Anyway, earth suddenly evolved from a conglomerate of chunks into continents and ocean and atmosphere etc due to collision and radioactive decay. Temperature rose to 2000'C bla bla bla. This is absolute poppycock though i scored an A or so writing this thrash. Sir, it is unreasonable. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by davien(m): 2:38pm On May 03, 2016 |
otemanuduno:I've been in your shoes before,an annunaki conspiracy theoriest nutjob... 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by davien(m): 2:43pm On May 03, 2016 |
Image123:Unreasonable to the ignorant of processes such as the tectonic activities that shape the planet and isotopic cross-correlations that make the earth 4.65 billion years old, etc... Go open a book other than fairy tales and get the education you clearly need on these subjects... 4 Likes |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by otemanuduno: 2:45pm On May 03, 2016 |
davien:And you are now back into the shoes of those pastors and afas who has never invented a single thing in their lives but noise. EL RUFAI, thank you so much. THE KINGDOM OF REVERAD is already here. 2 Likes |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by davien(m): 2:47pm On May 03, 2016 |
otemanuduno:I'm an atheist buddy... |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by tohpahz(f): 2:53pm On May 03, 2016 |
NiRfreak: May d Lord God himself gv u d spirit of sarcasm Nd humor. . |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by spacyzuma(m): 2:59pm On May 03, 2016 |
analice107: LMAO ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 3:00pm On May 03, 2016 |
People spend decades searching for God in forms constructed by their minds. And when they cant find the God of their mental creation they say HE doesnt exist. Keep an open mind. What you find is what you are. You have been searching for yourself all along. Soul is that photon from the infinite source. You do not have a soul. You are soul. You have a body. Soul is God experiencing the universe. We are souls in different bodies experiencing creation. We are God experiencing physical reality. When you truly realize this truth, life as we call it will be at your command. 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by herald9: 3:05pm On May 03, 2016 |
otemanuduno:What is this Knoliud? It sounds knowledgeable. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by earthrealm(m): 3:14pm On May 03, 2016 |
Choosing to believe God is a choice..its only the Holy spirit that can convict any1. Christians shud stop trying to convince people with logic or intelligence. I hv gone tru agnoist.atheism n now am at my final bus stop..a believer in Christ Jesus.. Any satanist who doesnt believe in the existence of God is simply deluded n isn5 being true to himself Dr. Ben Carson (Retired world renowned neurosurgeon, and Republican Presidential Aspirant) wrote this beautiful piece. Read and be blessed. Sometimes you are unsatisfied with your life, while many people in this world are dreaming of living your life. A child on a farm sees a plane fly overhead and dreams of flying. But, a pilot on the plane sees the farmhouse and dreams of returning home. That's life!! Enjoy yours. If wealth is the secret to happiness, then the rich should be dancing on the streets. But only poor kids do that. If power ensures security, then officials should walk unguarded. But those who live simply, sleep soundly. If beauty and fame bring ideal relationships, then celebrities should have the best marriages. But those who live simply, walk humbly and love genuinely! All good will come back to you!!! Man asks, “Where was God when Myles Munroe, wife and his associates were killed in a crash? He answers, "The same place I sat when John the Baptist my servant was beheaded. When Stephen my servant was stoned to death. When Paul my servant was murdered in Rome. The same place I sat when my only Son was brutally crucified, wounded, bruised and killed. I have not moved from my position." I am the same. It is not the means of exit from earth that matters but the destination. Live simply. It's all about God!! 5 Likes |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by johnydon22(m): 3:16pm On May 03, 2016 |
nynbrada: Hahahahaha there is nothing Johnydon22 will not see on NL.. #sighs K 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by nynbrada: 3:17pm On May 03, 2016 |
Image123: God you bless for these 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by otemanuduno: 3:31pm On May 03, 2016 |
davien:better...hell fire is not for atheists because they don't believe in it and support it. Hell fire is like an hallucination made to look very real by the sulphur and phosphorus part of the brain. When those who believes that they might get to hell fire dies, this belief will toil with their brains and set them on fire until they are able to shake themselves off it and get out of it. Then their souls will go to the right place after death. 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by urahara(m): 3:32pm On May 03, 2016 |
otemanuduno: You and this ur yeye domino reverad 3 Likes |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by beejaay: 3:38pm On May 03, 2016 |
Ghost01: it amuse me thinking about it all together...the sweat and blood, the energy exerted to achieve something and write our names in gold, sleepless night of wanting to arrive, the ego of being the best after we are all gone will eventually be for naught..... whether we like it or not the earth will someday burst (it doesnt matter when).....of what usefulness is the achievement of Newton, Einstein, Faraday, Aristotle TO Newton, Einstein,Faraday and Aristotle now ![]() ![]() life means nothing because its nothing and we all know this deep down, religions, afterlife, god, satan are created out fear of accepting the true reality 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by kumulus(m): 3:43pm On May 03, 2016 |
Too many thoughts my minds processing and now I don't know which I should share but this...... |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by freecocoa(f): 3:43pm On May 03, 2016 |
Lessonteacher:The fact that he doesn't know how it ll began(no one actually absolutely does) doesn't mean your God did it. The fact remains that your religious claims (I'd like to think you are a christian) has been proven to be a big lie. 2 Likes |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 3:46pm On May 03, 2016 |
analice107: Hehehe…caro mio analice107. You know I quite admire your proselytizing zeal, I think if God himself required a procurator to dissemble his views he could do a lot worse than sending you down to earth. Still I would ask that you get your facts right if indeed you must give my moniker a mention as you are wont to do. What exactly are you accusing me of this time? atheism, witchcraft or wizardry? thanking you kindly ma'am. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by nynbrada: 3:49pm On May 03, 2016 |
otemanuduno: Funny guy. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by urahara(m): 3:49pm On May 03, 2016 |
Sarassin: Just leave her alone . she has shown that she is extremely zealous for her dead boo boo , jesus |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by olumose001(m): 3:58pm On May 03, 2016 |
This post reminds me of an atheist whose last words were "OH MY GOD"... Funny ![]() |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by JustStardust: 4:00pm On May 03, 2016 |
beejaay: Such a brand of immortality is enough for me. We live, then we die. End of story. Life means nothing, yes. But everyday we make our own meanings out of life. To ourselves, to others we help. Immortality is stretching out to touch the lives of other people positively and it's enough. No need for furnaces or hymn-singing that never Ends-pathetic stuff. Knowing I as I may never have been born is a beautiful miracle in itself. Many will never be born. (random genetics). Its not Because we are special or anything. Its just that we won a lottery to see all this. We may choose to keep it simple or make it complex. Unfortunately almost everyone has chosen the latter. And about the obsession of religionists or theists with deathbeds and the afterlife cause they can't fathom death, I ask; where we're u before u were born. No where! U did not exist! And the exact same thing will happen when u die. U gone! Chemicals and all...stop working! Consider a thought experiment. Say you are in Nigeria. Now there is a whole troop of people in India going about their daily lives. These people don't know you. They ve never heard of u. And unless u do smth outstanding or extraordinary( not that it's compulsory) they never will. They won't lose sleep over you and the globe will keep spinning. Why then are we so pretentious to believe we must continue to Exist in one form or another? Isn't that too pompous a thought? One that has given birth to so many variants on eternity and the afterlife; Each one more ridiculous than the last!!! 2 Likes |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Image123(m): 4:00pm On May 03, 2016 |
davien: That's not the big bang, don't be sharper than your self. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by deekseen(m): 4:15pm On May 03, 2016 |
HardMirror:Nice work so far, OP. First, I want you to know that I believe everything you have poured out so far. I have not come to condemn you or commend you (like a sister said earlier). I'm just very curious. Could you please answer the following questions to make some of your points and the reason for your sojourn very clear? 1. Are you now truly an atheist or you just demoted yourself to being less than a Christian? I ask because you keep sounding like you know there's a God but you don't trust Him because of something He did (or didn't do). Please clarify. 2. You said there is so much suffering in the world and God didn't have the answers to it if He really existed. My brother, since becoming an atheist, by how much have you reduced this suffering in the world? 3. Has your new found faith revealed all the TRUTH about life to you? 4. You also said the GREAT COMMISSION was a scam. (Mind you, God didn't put the burden on Christ to round the world to preach or save all men. Neither did Christ put it on any one disciple to reach the ends of the world with the gospel. Christ's part finished on the cross and the disciples were commanded to make disciples and teach them to do the same thing.) Since you claim you have found the truth, why now don't you want to spread the truth and save humanity, because in an earlier post you preferred you were few that knew the truth? These are innocent questions and I need answers to settle all the parts of this thread where you were not very clear. Thank you. 2 Likes |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Chazzyboy: 4:27pm On May 03, 2016 |
HardMirror:my brother everybody on earth is facing one problem or another right now no one is perfect but I tell u now to getup from ur slumber I believe we exist for a reason u need to hang unto something. I have been through a lot but there is God and I won't give up because of hardship. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by wirinet(m): 4:32pm On May 03, 2016 |
Image123: Omo, see ignorance being advertised. where did you read that the big bang started 4.6 billion years ago? Who told you that the earth suddenly evolved from a conglomerate of chunks into continents and ocean and atmosphere etc due to collision and radioactive decay ? I even wonder what the gibberish you wrote above means. Are you sure you are sober or mentally stable, i suggest you test for cerebral malaria. To cap your ridiculous understanding of cosmology, you said you got A writing this trash. If you need basic education on the big bang theory, a kind nairalander has provided free lessons here -https://www.nairaland.com/3080255/physics-seun-understanding-scientific-theories . Take this advantage to educate yourself and stop spewing ignorance about. 3 Likes 1 Share |
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