LinuxMint:

seems to me ur an atheist.

KingEbukasBlog:
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The same way you feel we dont make sense is the same way we feel you dont make sense . There are more uneducated benighted atheists than educated ones anyway .

solite3:
wat u guys don't understand is that there is physical life(biological life) and there is spiritual life(eternal life),the source of spiritual life is God.when a man sins he dies spiritually( d soul that sinneth shall die) even before he dies physically. God told Adam "THE DAY U EAT OF THE FRUIT U SHALL DIE" pls notice he said DAT same day not d next day or after many years.someone might say but he did not die dat day,yes physically but spiritually yes he died. spiritual death gave rise to physical death.what then is spiritual death? in one sentence, spiritual death means to be cut off from God d source of true life.when a man finally dies physically without God's life in him, he becomes useless n then cast into HELL read Jhn15

KingEbukasBlog:
In other words : Is Hell Fire Literal or Symbolic ?

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Oh dear ! Sorry for the mistake . I asked a wrong question .

"I am He that lives, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death"

"go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: where their worm dies not, and the fire is not quenched"

"Shame and everlasting contempt"

"Everlasting punishment"

"Weeping and gnashing of teeth"

"Fire unquenchable"

"Indignation and wrath, tribulation and anguish"

"Everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord"

"Eternal fire...the blackness of darkness for ever"

"He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone...the smoke of their torment ascended up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day or night."

"He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still"

KingEbukasBlog:
In other words : Is Hell Fire Literal or Symbolic ?

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Oh dear ! Sorry for the mistake . I asked a wrong question .

UyiIredia:
Hell is separation from God and all His goodness after death so if you die without knowing God you are gonna be left there. I'd still like to keep my options open on who goes to hell. Let is remember the wise words from 2 Timothy 2:19
But God's firm foundation stands, bearing this seal: “The Lord knows those who are his,”. I'll let God decide who goes to hell and who doesn't and won't judge that on the basis of ones belief.

MrPresident1:


And to buttress the strong point you have made, this is where Israel (the Negros) went to hell:

Ezekiel 31:15
Thus saith the Lord GOD; In the day when he went down to the grave I caused a mourning: I covered the deep for him, and I restrained the floods thereof, and the great waters were stayed: and I caused Lebanon to mourn for him, and all the trees of the field fainted for him.
16 I made the nations to shake at the sound of his fall, when I cast him down to hell with them that descend into the pit:

Hell, grave, pit, they are all the same thing. All nations that forsake God will be cast into the grave, into the pit, into hell. Hell is the symbolic world to mean separation from God, if you are separated from God, you are in hell. Hellish conditions are conditions of human suffering caused when one is forsaken by God.

Psalm 9:17
The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

Israel, the Negros are in hell today because they forsook God, they turned to wickedness against the commandments, Law, and ordinances of God, so they descended into hell, into the grave.

And Israel, Negros, are still in hell today awaiting redemption which salvation will come by the coming of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

ChessUg:
the heat of hellfire is type of heat that is immaterial. The immaterial soul is compartible with that immaterial heat! selah!!

MrPresident1:


And to buttress the strong point you have made, this is where Israel (the Negros) went to hell:

Ezekiel 31:15
Thus saith the Lord GOD; In the day when he went down to the grave I caused a mourning: I covered the deep for him, and I restrained the floods thereof, and the great waters were stayed: and I caused Lebanon to mourn for him, and all the trees of the field fainted for him.
16 I made the nations to shake at the sound of his fall, when I cast him down to hell with them that descend into the pit:

Hell, grave, pit, they are all the same thing. All nations that forsake God will be cast into the grave, into the pit, into hell. Hell is the symbolic world to mean separation from God, if you are separated from God, you are in hell. Hellish conditions are conditions of human suffering caused when one is forsaken by God.

Psalm 9:17
The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

Israel, the Negros are in hell today because they forsook God, they turned to wickedness against the commandments, Law, and ordinances of God, so they descended into hell, into the grave.

And Israel, Negros, are still in hell today awaiting redemption which salvation will come by the coming of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

ifenes:


Who wrote Mark 9:43? The new testament is an allegory. It is full of metaphors. Everything is HERE and NOW. Those who cling to the material world are likely to experience lots of suffering/pleasure that comes with programming your mind that way. The State of Mind is all that matters. If you brainwash an individual,they become different as a result of different info to others. Free your Mind from religious virus and you won't experience Hell. You are what you think.

veecovee:
THE SOUL IS IMMATERIAL TO THIS WORLD, BUT IT IS MATERIAL TO THE SOUL WORLD. AND HELLFIRE IS REAL THERE. Read mark 9:43

KingEbukasBlog:


Thanks bro for your contribution

I know the bible mentioned torments , fire and brimstone . But the question is how does an immaterial being feel the heat of hell fire ?

ifenes:
Christians will keep deceiving themselves. Hell fire is a metaphor for the suffering which results from not achieving a proper mental/psychological growth. It is a state one puts his/herself if not in alignment with him/her true self.

sukkot:
its an allegorical story. the rich man is esau aka the white nation and lazarus is jacob aka the blacks. its an allegorical / prophetic story of what will happen in this world which it is happening now. the white man is rich and we are wretched and poor begging for his crumbs


galatians 4 vs 24 Which things are an allegory:

matthew 13 vs 10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?

KingEbukasBlog:

But what about the rich man and Lazarus ?

MrPresident1:
Hell is both a place and condition of human existence. It is not a furnace up there in the skies but a furnace right here on earth.

Stconvict:
You know something that is funny about you Christians.
You try to find logic to explaining what is essentially illogical.
At first you are like, it's fire and then a logical question comes up, and you are like it's a different type of fire.
You guys are truly unsure of what you are following but you get the felling that it is there.
Well unexplained feelings are not very helpful. The feelings should to be examined and explained thoroughly, not just dismiss it with a simple , non-sensible explanation. Which is what the bible is.
I can have a strange feeling in my belly and just dismiss that it is the devil dancing in my stomach and therefore pray to god about it. Or I could go to a doctor to get examined based on collections of logical and physical studies done through the years.
I was at a burial yesterday and I listened as the pastor ranted on and on about afterlife and people all sober and listening with rapt attention.
I shook my head. This people have no clue that there is simply no afterlife. There is no soul. There is only one life to live.
This mentality of afterlife has made a lot people redundant to productivity. They simply accept their situation, quoting some verses in the Bible to console themselves about a better place after death where they will live happily ever after.
Tell me how this doesn't sound like a Cinderella story.
The interesting part is, there are two groups of Christains. The educated ones and the uneducated ones.
The educated ones try to use logic and science to explain a lot of illogical mysteries about the Bible. The uneducated ones however, do not bother to explain anything. They know little about science. They believe god is in the sky. They believe heaven is in the sky and that hell is perhaps beneath the earth. They don't even know how the bible came about. They don't even know how Christainity came to Nigeria. They probably never bothered to ask. It doesn't feel right when an atheist/agnost asks them certain brain-probing questions because some questions are better left unasked. They are scared of blasphemy and they watch what they say to avoid rejection.
At the end of the day, educated and uneducated alike resort to the basal way of explaining phenomena with a book written thousands of years ago. Or was it? What if through those years some people edited the wordings of the Bible? What if some contexts were lost to translations. Who knows?
Either way, just believe.
Well they forget some of us like to ask questions. We are passionate about how things work rather than just knowing they work.

Rossikk:
The soul world has many dimensions. At the highest levels there is no form. Just pure Consciousness.

blueAgent:



Keeping fooling yourself. so Hitler and other mass murderers will go unpunished?

blueAgent:



Lie . their is no Consciousness in Death.

after death?
"The living know that they shall die: but the dead
know not any thing, neither have they any more a
reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Also
their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is
now perished; neither have they any more a
portion for ever in any thing that is done under
the sun." "There is no work, nor device, nor
knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither
thou goest." Ecclesiastes 9:5, 6, 10. "The dead
praise not the Lord." Psalms 115:17.
Answer: God says that the dead know absolutely nothing!

Let me ask U. when u are in deep sleep do you know what is happening around U ? how much more when u are dead.

blueAgent:




You are a big fool. try to do research on Occultism,New World order, bible prophecies and others. and come and tell me your findings

sukkot:
lolz it shows he is reading the bible very well. we are two different people. the bible tells you what hell is. its a state of heavy suffering on earth. when your nation has been ravaged by poverty and suffering and hunger is what is called hell.

psalms 9 vs 17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God. << SO YOUR CIRCUMSTANCE AND NATION OF PEOPLE ARE TURNED INTO HELL. YOU BECOME HELL. YOUR NATION BECOMES HELL. THE BIBLE IS A BOOK THAT HAS TO BE CAREFULLY READ OR YOU END UP PEDDLING MYTHS

sukkot:
lolz it shows he is reading the bible very well. we are two different people. the bible tells you what hell is. its a state of heavy suffering on earth. when your nation has been ravaged by poverty and suffering and hunger is what is called hell.

psalms 9 vs 17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God. << SO YOUR CIRCUMSTANCE AND NATION OF PEOPLE ARE TURNED INTO HELL. YOU BECOME HELL. YOUR NATION BECOMES HELL. THE BIBLE IS A BOOK THAT HAS TO BE CAREFULLY READ OR YOU END UP PEDDLING MYTHS

ifenes:


I will take it you are surrounded by fools,that's why you think everyone is. Science itself is part of Occult. Didn't you learn it in school?

What is Occult? Knowledge hidden from the masses.

New World Order? A reformation of a Society to have a central power. Are you not a part of it? You follow rules and regulation don't you?

Bible Prophecies? Those are stoles Prophecies from older books.

ifenes:

Can you define death please?

ifenes:


Who will punish Hitler and the Mass murderer? Tell me, which is worse between betrayal and murder?

blueAgent:



Stop decieving yourself.
When and how will hellfire be kindled?
"So shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of
man ... shall cast them into a furnace of fire."
Matthew 13:40-42. "They went up on the breadth
of the earth, and compassed the camp of the
saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came
down from God out of heaven, and devoured
them." Revelation 20:9. "The righteous shall be
recompensed in the earth: much more the wicked
and the sinner." Proverbs 11:31.
Answer: At the end of the world, God Himself will
kindle hellfire. As the holy city comes down from
God out of heaven ( Revelation 21:2), the wicked
attempt to capture it. At that time, God will rain
down fire from heaven upon the earth, and it will
devour the wicked. This fire is Bible hellfire.

blueAgent:



Stop writing trash ,Negroes are not in Hell neither
are they iseralities.