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Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by urahara(m): 8:53am On Apr 29, 2016 |
LinuxMint: An agnostic atheist to be precise |
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by urahara(m): 8:55am On Apr 29, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Stats please |
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by Nobody: 9:03am On Apr 29, 2016 |
wat u guys don't understand is that there is physical life(biological life) and there is spiritual life(eternal life),the source of spiritual life is God.when a man sins he dies spiritually( d soul that sinneth shall die) even before he dies physically. God told Adam "THE DAY U EAT OF THE FRUIT U SHALL DIE" pls notice he said DAT same day not d next day or after many years.someone might say but he did not die dat day,yes physically but spiritually yes he died. spiritual death gave rise to physical death.what then is spiritual death? in one sentence, spiritual death means to be cut off from God d source of true life.when a man finally dies physically without God's life in him, he becomes useless n then cast into HELL read Jhn15 |
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by MizJanet(f): 9:20am On Apr 29, 2016 |
solite3: did your holy book said Adam u talk about become useless and then cast into hell ? or its just ya opinion. dont avoid the first question I asked you. expecting ur answers on matt 5:29,30 that u quote |
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:45pm On Apr 29, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Let the Bible speak. ![]() Listen to what Jesus and the apostles said about eternal torment and then decide whether it was literal or symbolic: "I am He that lives, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death"(Rev. 1:18) The Evidence Bible. There are three words translated "hell" in Scripture: Gehenna (Greek): The place of punishment (Matthew 5:22,29; 10:28; and James 3:6) Hades (Greek): The abode of the dead (Matthew 11:23; 16:18, Luke 16:23; Acts 2:27) Sheol (Hebrew): The grave (Psalm 9:17; 16:10) There are those who accept that hell is a place of punishment, but believe that the punishment is to be annihilated—to cease conscious existence. They can’t conceive that the punishment of the wicked will be conscious and eternal. If they are correct, then a man like Adolph Hitler, who was responsible for the deaths of millions, is being "punished" merely with eternal sleep. His fate is simply to return to the non-existent state he was in before he was born, where he doesn’t even know that he is being punished. However, Scripture paints a different story. The rich man who found himself in hell (Luke 16:19–31) was conscious. He was able to feel pain, to thirst, and to experience remorse. He wasn’t asleep in the grave; he was in a place of "torment." If hell is a place of knowing nothing or a reference to the grave into which we go at death, Jesus' statements about hell make no sense. He said that if your hand, foot, or eye causes you to sin, it would be better to remove it than to: "go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: where their worm dies not, and the fire is not quenched"(Mark 9:43–48). The Bible refers to the fate of the unsaved with such fearful words as the following: "Shame and everlasting contempt"(Daniel 12:2) "Everlasting punishment"(Mathew 25:46) "Weeping and gnashing of teeth"(Matthew 24:51) "Fire unquenchable"(Luke 3:17) "Indignation and wrath, tribulation and anguish"(Romans 2:8,9) "Everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord"(2 Thessalonians 1:9) "Eternal fire...the blackness of darkness for ever"(Jude 7,13) Revelation 14:10,11 tells us the final, eternal destiny of the sinner: "He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone...the smoke of their torment ascended up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day or night." If those who are still being contumacious should read this: "He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still"(Revelation 22:11) 4 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by sukkot: 1:09pm On Apr 29, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:hell fire is symbolic. but it can get literal if your judgement includes getting lynched and burned alive like the ALUU4 boys 1 Like |
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by blueAgent(m): 11:12am On May 04, 2016 |
Some key points about Hell Fire. 1.Hell does not exist now. but will be at the end of this world. 2. the Soul is not immortal. it can die. and would be destoryed by God in Hell. 3.Hell is not for eternity. but will be long enough to burn all the sinners. duration for each individual sinners fire will be according to their works(sin) here on earth. 4.Hell fire will be here on Earth. For more detials and bible proves please click or copy and browse this sites. amazingfacts.org/media-library/book/e/30/t/hellfire-a-twisted-truth-untangled amazingfacts.org/media-library/study-guide/e/4988/t/is-the-devil-in-charge-of-hell 2 Likes |
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by blueAgent(m): 11:17am On May 04, 2016 |
UyiIredia: All Sinners will go to Hell. there is no confusion about that. |
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by blueAgent(m): 11:19am On May 04, 2016 |
MrPresident1: Stop writing trash ,Negroes are not in Hell neither are they iseralities |
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by blueAgent(m): 11:24am On May 04, 2016 |
ChessUg: Their is nothing like immaterial Soul. Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. Soul is a Man with life. what goes to hell fire is the body were it is destoryed with the soul. |
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by blueAgent(m): 11:25am On May 04, 2016 |
MrPresident1: Stop writing trash ,Negroes are not in Hell neither are they iseralities. |
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by blueAgent(m): 11:28am On May 04, 2016 |
ifenes: You are a big fool. try to do research on Occultism,New World order, bible prophecies and others. and come and tell me your findings |
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by blueAgent(m): 11:29am On May 04, 2016 |
veecovee: Their is no living Soul of a dead person. Where are sinners (who have died) now? "The hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation." John 5:28, 29. "The wicked is reserved to the day of destruction." "Yet shall he be brought to the grave, and shall remain in the tomb." Job 21:30, 32. Answer: The Bible is specific. Both the wicked and the righteous who have died are in their graves "sleeping" until the resurrection day. 2. When will sinners be cast into hellfire? "So shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire." Matthew 13:40-42. "The word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day." John 12:48. Answer: Sinners will be cast into hellfire at the great judgment day at the end of the world--not when they die. God would not punish a person in fire until his case was tried and decided in court at the end of the world. Nor would God burn a murderer who died 5,000 years ago 5,000 years longer than one who dies and deserves punishment for the same sin today. |
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by blueAgent(m): 11:35am On May 04, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: The Soul is not immaterial. what goes to hell fire is the body. their is no where in the bible were the lord said the soul is immortal or will be casted into far. A man is a living Soul only when he has the breath ( Spirit ) of God in him. read Genesis 2:7 The wicked are not immortal. The Bible says they will "perish", "burn up" and "be destroyed". 5. What will happen to the wicked in hellfire? "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." Revelation 21:8. Answer: The wicked die the second death in hellfire. If the wicked lived forever being tortured in hell, they would be immortal. But this is impossible, because the Bible says God "only hath immortality." 1 Timothy 6:16. When Adam and Eve were driven from the Garden of Eden, an angel was posted to guard the tree of life so that sinners would not eat of the tree and "live for ever." Genesis 3:22-24. The teaching that sinners are immortal in hell originated with Satan and is completely untrue. God prevented this when sin entered this earth by guarding the tree of life. Bible Clear - Wicked Obliterated The Bible says the wicked suffer "death" (Romans 6:23), will suffer "destruction" (Job 21:30), "shall perish" (Psalms 37:20), will "burn" up (Malachi 4:1), "shall be destroyed together" (Psalms 37:38) , will "consume away" (Psalms 37:20), "shall be cut off" (Psalms 37:9), "shall be slain" (Psalms 62:3). God will "destroy" them (Psalms 145:20), and "fire shall devour them" (Psalms 21:9). Note that all of these references make it clear that the wicked die and are destroyed. They do not live forever in misery. 1 Like |
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by blueAgent(m): 11:37am On May 04, 2016 |
ifenes: Keeping fooling yourself. so Hitler and other mass murderers will go unpunished? |
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by blueAgent(m): 11:40am On May 04, 2016 |
sukkot: So IBB,Ibori,Odili,Dangote, and Abacha were also Lazarus?. u are sick A country God gave oil,water,land no earthquake,Hurricane,Ternandoes. |
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by blueAgent(m): 11:45am On May 04, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Doesn't the story of the rich man and Lazarus in Luke 16:19-31 teach an eternal hell of torment? No, indeed! It is simply a parable used to emphasize a point. Many facts make it clear that this is a parable. A few are as follows: A. Abraham's bosom is not heaven (Hebrews 11:8-10, 16). B. People in hell can't talk to those in heaven (Isaiah 65:17). C. The dead are in their graves (Job 17:13; John 5:28, 29). The rich man was in bodily form with eyes, a tongue, etc., yet we know that the body does not go to hell at death. It is very obvious that the body remains in the grave, as the Bible says. D. Men are rewarded at Christ's second coming, not at death (Revelation 22:11, 12). E. The lost are punished in hell at the end of the world, not when they die (Matthew 13:40-42). The point of the story is found in verse 31 of Luke 16. Parables cannot be taken literally. If we took parables literally, then we must believe that trees talk! (See this parable in Judges 9:8-15.) 7. But the Bible speaks of the wicked being |
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by blueAgent(m): 11:46am On May 04, 2016 |
But the Bible speaks of the wicked being
tormented "forever," doesn't it?
The term "for ever," as used in the Bible, means
simply a period of time, limited or unlimited. It is
used 56 times in the Bible in connection with
things that have already ended. (To check in a
concordance, look up the word "ever." ![]() |
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by blueAgent(m): 11:48am On May 04, 2016 |
Hell Fire is not for eternity .even the Devil is burned to ashes . Ezekiel 28:11-19King James Version (KJV) 11 Moreover the word of the Lord came unto me, saying, 12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord God; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. 13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. 14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. 15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. 16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. 17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. 18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. 19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more. King James Version (KJV) |
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by blueAgent(m): 11:50am On May 04, 2016 |
MrPresident1: Stop decieving yourself. When and how will hellfire be kindled? "So shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man ... shall cast them into a furnace of fire." Matthew 13:40-42. "They went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them." Revelation 20:9. "The righteous shall be recompensed in the earth: much more the wicked and the sinner." Proverbs 11:31. Answer: At the end of the world, God Himself will kindle hellfire. As the holy city comes down from God out of heaven ( Revelation 21:2), the wicked attempt to capture it. At that time, God will rain down fire from heaven upon the earth, and it will devour the wicked. This fire is Bible hellfire. |
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by blueAgent(m): 11:56am On May 04, 2016 |
Stconvict: So You feel their is no .afterlife? but failed to realize that whatever made U in the first place can still raise U from the dead. stop decieving Urself |
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by blueAgent(m): 12:04pm On May 04, 2016 |
Rossikk: Lie . their is no Consciousness in Death. after death? "The living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun." "There is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest." Ecclesiastes 9:5, 6, 10. "The dead praise not the Lord." Psalms 115:17. Answer: God says that the dead know absolutely nothing! Let me ask U. when u are in deep sleep do you know what is happening around U ? how much more when u are dead. |
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by ifenes(m): 12:17pm On May 04, 2016 |
blueAgent: Who will punish Hitler and the Mass murderer? Tell me, which is worse between betrayal and murder? |
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by ifenes(m): 12:18pm On May 04, 2016 |
blueAgent: Can you define death please? |
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by ifenes(m): 12:24pm On May 04, 2016 |
blueAgent: I will take it you are surrounded by fools,that's why you think everyone is. Science itself is part of Occult. Didn't you learn it in school? What is Occult? Knowledge hidden from the masses. New World Order? A reformation of a Society to have a central power. Are you not a part of it? You follow rules and regulation don't you? Bible Prophecies? Those are stoles Prophecies from older books.
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Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by blueAgent(m): 12:27pm On May 04, 2016 |
sukkot: Wrong. When will sinners be cast into hellfire? "So shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire." Matthew 13:40-42. "The word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day." John 12:48. Answer: Sinners will be cast into hellfire |
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by blueAgent(m): 12:29pm On May 04, 2016 |
sukkot: Wrong. When will sinners be cast into hellfire? "So shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire." Matthew 13:40-42. "The word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day." John 12:48. Answer: Sinners will be cast into hellfire. |
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by blueAgent(m): 12:37pm On May 04, 2016 |
ifenes: Clown.So you know that their is a new world order. and what do you think is their motive? U contractdict Urself .how is science occult .is it hidden? |
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by blueAgent(m): 12:40pm On May 04, 2016 |
ifenes: Death is the absence of life. simple |
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by blueAgent(m): 12:44pm On May 04, 2016 |
ifenes: God will punish all Sinners. weather a murderer or a betrayer. > Ecclesiastes > Chapter 12 > Verse 14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil. |
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by MrPresident1: 1:11pm On May 04, 2016 |
blueAgent: First and foremost, stop using adulterated Bibles. I can see you are using a fake Bible going by the version you have referenced. Israel is in hell, Negros are the Israelites of the Bible, waiting for Jesus Christ, their Chief Shepherd to come and rescue them. Hell are conditions of human suffering, when God departs from you, you go to hell. The Bible is written in figurative language, and hell is one of the figurative terms used to described separation from God. Other words are hades, grave, and pit. Ezekiel 31:15 15 Thus saith the Lord God; In the day when he went down to the grave I caused a mourning: I covered the deep for him, and I restrained the floods thereof, and the great waters were stayed: and I caused Lebanon to mourn for him, and all the trees of the field fainted for him. 16 I made the nations to shake at the sound of his fall, when I cast him down to hell with them that descend into the pit: and all the trees of Eden, the choice and best of Lebanon, all that drink water, shall be comforted in the nether parts of the earth. There will be no deliberate spread of ignorance on any thread where I find myself, take note! ![]() |
Re: If The Soul Is Immaterial How Does It Experience The 'heat' Of Hell ? by MrPresident1: 1:19pm On May 04, 2016 |
blueAgent: Stop being scared of the truth, there is nothing you can do against it, it is a moving train that has lost it breaks, if you attempt to stand in its path, you will be crushed to nothingness. Malachi 2:9 Therefore have I also made you contemptible and base before all the people, according as ye have not kept my ways, but have been partial in the law. Who are the people being described here as contemptible and base before all people? Is it Netanyahoo and his boys? Guy give yourself brains, give yourself brains! Israel is in hell and Jesus Christ is coming to save her, that is the purpose of the coming of Christ. Negros are Judah, and they are Israel. And Judah resides mainly in West Africa/Nigeria! ![]() |
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