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Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by Nihilist: 1:46pm On May 04, 2016 |
raumdeuter: In Europe, Ferguson didn't manage one of the best teams, though he managed a very good team... Pep is currently managing the club team currently ranked the 2nd best in Europe, and was previously managing the best team in the world. http://www.ecaeurope.com/tabbed-content/club-ranking/ |
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by lekkie073(m): 1:51pm On May 04, 2016 |
raumdeuter:any manager dat wins d ucl in his first year in charge of a team should covertly praise the personnel dat made up d team not his own tactics or strategy...dats where d profiles of some coaches tend to work against them. ferguson laboured hard before he achieved...pep should thank his triumvirate (xavi iniesta messi) for his achievement with barcelona |
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by raumdeuter: 1:56pm On May 04, 2016 |
Nihilist: The premier league was formed in 1992, Man Utd has won more than all other clubs combined together I think it goes without saying that winning the league with Man utd is not a achievement 2 Likes |
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by Nihilist: 2:03pm On May 04, 2016 |
raumdeuter: The level of opposition in EPL and Bayern are different. That's why there was a 'big four' at one point. In Germany, it's a big 'one' 1 Like |
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by raumdeuter: 2:04pm On May 04, 2016 |
Nihilist: Actually you are wrong, Man Utd in late 90 and early 2000 were a top ranked European team http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method2/trank2001.html And Fergie also managed the best team in the world As at 2000 how many teams in Europe were better than Man Utd? Man Utd was playing Madrid in the quarter final and Madrid was firm underdog. There was no Barca at that time either. So who were the teams better than Man Utd in 2000 |
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by raumdeuter: 2:05pm On May 04, 2016 |
Nihilist: For most of Fergies tenure at Man Utd who were the big 4? Blackburn Newcastle or what? 1986-2005 a period of almost 20yrs who were these big 4? There was no bigger Big 1 than EPL for most of Fergies tenure |
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by Nihilist: 2:10pm On May 04, 2016 |
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Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by Nihilist: 2:10pm On May 04, 2016 |
raumdeuter: You're yapping up the wrong tree. I have already insisted that Manyoo had a team good enough to win in Europe in 1999.... ![]() Plus I'm sure you can see from the link YOU posted that Madrid were ranked higher than Manyoo in 1999, 2000 and 2001. ![]() Congratulations, you just played yourself ![]() ![]() |
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by raumdeuter: 2:11pm On May 04, 2016 |
lekkie073: I have already shown that most of those who won the CL for Pep were either new players or previously ignored players in Barcelona Pep made the triumvirate legendary because before him no one was talking about any triumvirate. He gave them a new tactic and won like no one has ever done in Barcelona history |
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by sebod(m): 2:12pm On May 04, 2016 |
lekkie073:Are you saying if Mou takes over Arsenal and wins the UCL next season, he should not be praised, but the players should get the credit? That means if Pep takes over Man U too and wins the UCL in his 1st season, Rooney, Carrick and co should get the praise. No? 1 Like |
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by Nihilist: 2:13pm On May 04, 2016 |
raumdeuter: This is stale...I advise you to go back re-read my earlier posts, cos everything has been explained. The Majority of Feruson's tenure in EPL, he had the better squad, and was thus expected to win in EPL....and he delivered. Compare to Bayern. Of Europe's big three leagues, the Bundesliga is the least competitive when measured in this way. Since the establishment of a national league in England in 1888, Manchester United, England's winningest team, has captured 20 titles. That's 16 percent of the total. In Spain, things are worse than in England. Real Madrid has won 32 La Liga titles; Barca has 22. That's about 38 and 26 percent, respectively. In the Bundesliga, the teams just behind Bayern—BvB and Borussia Mönchengladbach—have each won five championships, or ten percent of the league's titles. Please join me to burnthisleaguedown. 1 Like |
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by raumdeuter: 2:13pm On May 04, 2016 |
Nihilist: Nihilist: I wonder who posted the bold |
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by Nihilist: 2:14pm On May 04, 2016 |
raumdeuter: This is stale...I advise you to go back re-read my earlier posts, cos everything has been explained. The Majority of Feruson's tenure in EPL, he had the better squad, and was thus expected to win in EPL....and he delivered. Compare to Bayern.
Please join me to burnthisleaguedown. |
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by raumdeuter: 2:16pm On May 04, 2016 |
Nihilist: there have been league football in Germany before 1963. Thats why German teams were playing in the European cup way before 1963 If you are taking English league from 1888 and not 1992, then you should take Germany too from 1903 24 seasons of Premier league, 13 times Man Utd won 54% of Premier league titles |
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by Nihilist: 2:21pm On May 04, 2016 |
raumdeuter: In General, Ferguson's manyoo team was not the best team in the world and will never be spoken about in the same way as say Pep's Barca or Ancelotti's Milan. However when it comes to a specific time frame, particularly the year 1999, I have insisted that United were definitely good enough to win in Europe, something which was backed up by the link you ironically posted to counter me. Dayo give it up. You are clutching at straws here....You've literally got nothing on me! ![]() |
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by Nihilist: 2:24pm On May 04, 2016 |
raumdeuter: yawnnn This was 3 pages ago. Nihilist: |
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by raumdeuter: 2:31pm On May 04, 2016 |
Nihilist: Pep made Barca the best team and the team people talk about. Thats why Peps Barca is the standard of all clubs from the past 2 decades You are telling us Man Utd was good enough to win at the same time telling Man Utd was not a top team in Europe. Would you make up your mind? |
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by Nihilist: 2:41pm On May 04, 2016 |
raumdeuter: You dont have to be a top team to win in Europe...ask Leicester, or Atletico, or Chelsea. |
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by raumdeuter: 2:46pm On May 04, 2016 |
Nihilist: Chelsea was a top team when they won in Europe and Atletico is currently a top team. What has Leicester won in Europe Fact is Man Utd in late 90's and early 2000 was a top team in Europe. They slumped in the mid 2000 but late 2000 they were back to being a top team |
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by Nihilist: 2:50pm On May 04, 2016 |
raumdeuter: Chelsea were a comparative top team in Europe the season they beat both Bayern and Barcelona? ![]() EPL is a European league. Leicester didn't win in in Mars bro. I'm not sure what argument re Manyoo you're trying to make, when I made the exact same points you're making now like 3-4 pages ago. Raumdeuter. Must. Try. Harder. 1 Like |
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by homesteady(m): 2:54pm On May 04, 2016 |
diggz: Ermmm... So the mucus in your eyes cleared only when it somehow saw Mourinho in my comment eh? Hasn't this thread been filled with comments about Mourinho been better because Pep just lost to Atletico Madrid? Meanwhile This same Simeone has defeated Mourinho in 2 separate knockout competitions back to back - Copa dey rel final(Real madrid) and UCL semi final (Chelsea)! And in these 3 games, he won twice in Mourinho's house! 1 Like |
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by raumdeuter: 2:56pm On May 04, 2016 |
Nihilist: Chelsea was a top team in 2012. In 2011, Chelsea was ranked 3rd in the UEFA club coefficient even ahead of bayern Madrid http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/club/season=2011/index.html Dont try to play dumb, everyone know when we say Europe we mean in continental competitions The argument is you cant say Fergie exceeded expectations at Man Utd while Pep did not exceed expectations at Barcelona |
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by Nihilist: 3:16pm On May 04, 2016 |
raumdeuter: From your very same link, I'm sure you can see that Chelsea was ranked 6th behind Barca, Madrid etc. In 2012 when we won the the damn thing, we were level on points with Bayern and behind Barca, Madrid etc....And that's only because we won the UCL while finishing 6th in the league So you can see that relative to the big boys, Chelsea was NOT a top club when we won it. This is the second time your own links will let you down, unlike Kanye West ![]() p.s When Lai Mohammed retires, You should lobby for his job. You have a good chance of getting it too 1 Like
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Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by raumdeuter: 3:21pm On May 04, 2016 |
Nihilist: WHat are you looking at? In 2011 Chelsea was ranked 3rd in Europe same with in 2012
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Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by Nihilist: 3:24pm On May 04, 2016 |
raumdeuter: Old man, this is is 2016. You need to learn to use the sort function on web resources ![]() |
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by raumdeuter: 3:32pm On May 04, 2016 |
Nihilist: Club ranking are a cumulative 5 yr score. Not just a 1yr thing where a fluke run can influence results. No one would say Barca are not a top club or at least not better than City as at 2016 because they got knocked out earlier than City or that Juventus isnt better than WOlfsburg as at 2016 |
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by Nihilist: 3:35pm On May 04, 2016 |
raumdeuter: Doesn't change the simple fact that Both Barca and Bayern were rated higher than Chelsea that year. ![]() ![]() |
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by raumdeuter: 3:41pm On May 04, 2016 |
Nihilist: How was Bayern rated above Chelsea that year? No be you post those images again abi na film trick |
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by Nihilist: 3:46pm On May 04, 2016 |
raumdeuter: depends on how you sort it sir. ![]()
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Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by weedtaker: 3:46pm On May 04, 2016 |
sebod:M not listing any ![]() |
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by raumdeuter: 3:52pm On May 04, 2016 |
Nihilist: So Bayern is ahead of Chelsea alphabetically? brilliant Well here Chelsea is ahead
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Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by Nihilist: 3:54pm On May 04, 2016 |
raumdeuter: Please direct your complaints to the webmaster of UEFA website sir. |
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