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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by oladoyindelight: 12:00pm On May 04, 2016
Hello house plz am a newbie in this forum, plz ao can I get high quality juveniles at isolo-okota environ. Tnks

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Oyalfares: 12:54pm On May 04, 2016
Hello dear colleagues, where can I get to pellet my feed in Abuja? Thanks
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Ttalk: 1:49pm On May 04, 2016
Oyalfares:
Hello dear colleagues, where can I get to pellet my feed in Abuja? Thanks

You can pellet in Kuje, Kaduna Road or Ideal at Gwarinmpa along Abuja - Kubwa express way or you can e-mail me at goldgate2003@yahoo.com to give you their contact
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by lawstenie: 1:59pm On May 04, 2016
pumppie:
how old are your seeds sir

They are two weeks old from the day of stocking as fingerlings. Thnks. please i really need a clue on how to change the sizes of feed.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by pumppie: 4:13pm On May 04, 2016
lawstenie:


They are two weeks old from the day of stocking as fingerlings. Thnks. please i really need a clue on how to change the sizes of feed.
if they are actually fingerlings from when u brought them, buy now u can use 1.8mm skretting (durante) as chilamfarms suggested, but if u can't get that, use coppen 1.5mm. As regards changing feed sizes pls provide d house details such as number of fingerlings stored and also what u intend to harvest e.g table size or melange. Otherwise, u proceede in this order 1.5mm, 2mm, 3mm, 4mm, 6mm and 8mm. Nb: some feeds don't have 3mm and 8mm e.g skretting (sinking) for this type u can finish with 6mm. I hope this helps. Regards.

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by lawstenie: 5:25pm On May 04, 2016
pumppie:
if they are actually fingerlings from when u brought them, buy now u can use 1.8mm skretting (durante) as chilamfarms suggested, but if u can't get that, use coppen 1.5mm. As regards changing feed sizes pls provide d house details such as number of fingerlings stored and also what u intend to harvest e.g table size or melange. Otherwise, u proceede in this order 1.5mm, 2mm, 3mm, 4mm, 6mm and 8mm. Nb: some feeds don't have 3mm and 8mm e.g skretting (sinking) for this type u can finish with 6mm. I hope this helps. Regards.


Pumppie/chilafarm, am grateful for your prompt response. Ok let me give a quick run down of the farm. I stocked 750 post fries per say though the farmer sold them to me as fingerlings cos they weighed 1.2g and less at the initially time of stocking. I want to raise to table size. Am giving 0.5mm coppens for now.
lawstenie:

Pumppie/chilafarm, am grateful for your prompt response. Ok let me give a quick run down of the farm. I stocked 750 post fries per say though the farmer sold them to me as fingerlings cos they weighed 1.2g and less at the initially time of stocking. I want to raise to table size. Am giving 0.5mm coppens for now.
pumppie:
if they are actually fingerlings from when u brought them, buy now u can use 1.8mm skretting (durante) as chilamfarms suggested, but if u can't get that, use coppen 1.5mm. As regards changing feed sizes pls provide d house details such as number of fingerlings stored and also what u intend to harvest e.g table size or melange. Otherwise, u proceede in this order 1.5mm, 2mm, 3mm, 4mm, 6mm and 8mm. Nb: some feeds don't have 3mm and 8mm e.g skretting (sinking) for this type u can finish with 6mm. I hope this helps. Regards.


Pumppie/chilafarm, am grateful for your prompt response. Ok let me give a quick run down of the farm. I stocked 750 post fries per say though the farmer sold them to me as fingerlings cos they weighed 1.2g and less at the initially time of stocking. I want to raise to table size. Am giving 0.5mm coppens for now. I was advices to give 0.8mm next. pls what do you think? I really want to get a good result.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Trudy12(f): 7:14pm On May 04, 2016
pumppie:
if they are actually fingerlings from when u brought them, buy now u can use 1.8mm skretting (durante) as chilamfarms suggested, but if u can't get that, use coppen 1.5mm. As regards changing feed sizes pls provide d house details such as number of fingerlings stored and also what u intend to harvest e.g table size or melange. Otherwise, u proceede in this order 1.5mm, 2mm, 3mm, 4mm, 6mm and 8mm. Nb: some feeds don't have 3mm and 8mm e.g skretting (sinking) for this type u can finish with 6mm. I hope this helps. Regards.

regarding the melange model, i think durante sinking can be used instead of the vital feeds.just asking.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by chilanfarms(m): 9:36pm On May 04, 2016
lawstenie:



Pumppie/chilafarm, am grateful for your prompt response. Ok let me give a quick run down of the farm. I stocked 750 post fries per say though the farmer sold them to me as fingerlings cos they weighed 1.2g and less at the initially time of stocking. I want to raise to table size. Am giving 0.5mm coppens for now.


Pumppie/chilafarm, am grateful for your prompt response. Ok let me give a quick run down of the farm. I stocked 750 post fries per say though the farmer sold them to me as fingerlings cos they weighed 1.2g and less at the initially time of stocking. I want to raise to table size. Am giving 0.5mm coppens for now. I was advices to give 0.8mm next. pls what do you think? I really want to get a good result.
# 1.2g r not post fry ooo bros. Standard fingerlin sef na 1g of which most no deh even weigh 1g.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by boomzee: 12:05am On May 05, 2016
pumppie:
Hello all, sorry for the delay as I am not in any way keeping us in suspense. Please let me say that what I am about to reveal is not something unusual and not a top secret, and like I said we can modify and improve on it. It’s just a template of some sort. Please also note that prices of feeds have changed since the last time this model was used. And harvest time was 2 months and 3 days. Some schools of thought, are of the opinion that you must hatch before you can make it big in mélange farming, this is not always the case. Cos truth is we cannot all hatch, even though hatching will definitely save u some cash but it also comes at a cost (N). Just ensure you get your fingerlings from a reputable breeder and pay attention to quality issue. What I’m presenting to u was achieved by a client last month.
Before I proceed let me shed light on some obstacles to attaining this target.

1. Low quality fingerlings: Please and please MAKE SURE ur fingerlings are of very FINE QUALITY and must be picking 1.5MM conveniently.
2. Apply the recommended mélange spacing ( don’t over stock a particular pond)
3. Don’t under feed: though there are recommended feeding schedule based on body weight, I feed to satiation but avoid wastage. Feed twice in a day and avoid feeding late at night.
4. Effectively use multivitamins: I use aqua pro and livstovit.
5. Effective water management.

COST
1. Fingerlings @ N10 x 6000 N60,000
2. 1.5mm coppen @ N4000 x 3 N12,000
3. 2mm Durante(scretting) @ N5,550 x 8 N 44,000
4. 3mm coppen @ N6000 x 8 N48,000
5. 4mm Vital feed @ N4,250 x 48 N204,000
6. Aqua pro @ N350 x 2 N700
7. Livstovit @ N500 x 1 N500

TOTAL COST: N369, 200

Total Kg (after 2 months plus): 1920kg

N;B (1) mélange is sold in bowls(bafs) usually containing 30kg/bowl for this cycle, 64bowls were obtained.

;B (2) : he sold @450/kg, thus total sales was N864,000.
Gross profit: N864, 000 – N369, 200 = N494, 800 (excluding miscellaneous)

N:B (3): I don’t use vital, I use durante (sktretting) (4MM ) but I suggested vital to him for convenience sake cos it floats unlike durante which requires spot feeding and patience to use.

N:B (4): you should target an average 300g to make profit, however you will find out that a reasonable number will even attain 400/ 500g.

N:B (5): I normally sell at N430/kg, but he was able to sell at 450/kg which I think we should all insist on selling now (feeds and cost of running this business is quite higher now).

I am currently trying out alla aqua (3mm) at the moment cos coppen has increased drastically. Will update when the cycle is complete. Please if there are areas to be elaborated on I will be willing to, regards.

thanks
....but my question concerning ur model is this....did I actually use 48 bag of durante sinking.....or u just gave d equivalent of 48 ahs frrm durante....s durante is 25kg while vital is 15kg...
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by pumppie: 2:43pm On May 05, 2016
boomzee:
thanks
....but my question concerning ur model is this....did I actually use 48 bag of durante sinking.....or u just gave d equivalent of 48 ahs frrm durante....s durante is 25kg while vital is 15kg...
I need u to be clear sir, guess some typo is the cause tho, I never mentioned anything about 48bags of durante sir, I only said I personally use durante, But advised the client to use vital. Durante Equivalent of the model is 29bags. Hope u get?
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by pumppie: 3:21pm On May 05, 2016
Trudy12:


regarding the melange model, i think durante sinking can be used instead of the vital feeds.just asking.
Yes u can use durante sinking. It’s even cheaper than vital, and as long as u can handle using it, ba wahala.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by pumppie: 3:58pm On May 05, 2016
lawstenie:



Pumppie/chilafarm, am grateful for your prompt response. Ok let me give a quick run down of the farm. I stocked 750 post fries per say though the farmer sold them to me as fingerlings cos they weighed 1.2g and less at the initially time of stocking. I want to raise to table size. Am giving 0.5mm coppens for now.


Pumppie/chilafarm, am grateful for your prompt response. Ok let me give a quick run down of the farm. I stocked 750 post fries per say though the farmer sold them to me as fingerlings cos they weighed 1.2g and less at the initially time of stocking. I want to raise to table size. Am giving 0.5mm coppens for now. I was advices to give 0.8mm next. pls what do you think? I really want to get a good result.
Hello sir, I think the confusion here is that we don’t seem to know exactly what u stocked. Post fries are different from fingerlings. If what u stocked are post fries, then u can feed in this order; 0.5mm -0.8mm, 0.8mm-1.2mm and finally 1.5mm. Hope this helps?
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by lawstenie: 8:58pm On May 05, 2016
[quote author=pumppie post=45340198] Hello sir, I think the confusion here is that we don’t seem to know exactly what u stocked. Post fries are different from fingerlings. If what u stocked are post fries, then u can feed in this order; 0.5mm -0.8mm, 0.8mm-1.2mm and finally 1.5mm. Hope this helps?[/quo

Yea, thanks but I will upload the picture for easy identification.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by KayDawodu(m): 7:10am On May 06, 2016
pumppie:
I need u to be clear sir, guess some typo is the cause tho, I never mentioned anything about 48bags of durante sir, I only said I personally use durante, But advised the client to use vital. Durante Equivalent of the model is 29bags. Hope u get?

You did mention 48 bags of 4mm vital feed at 4,250.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by eluyode(m): 2:12pm On May 07, 2016
to everyone in this trend say a BIG THANK YOU... bcus you have shed light on my heart aching issues. @pumppie pls is there a way i can contact you.... also is there anyone from ile-ife here.... my contact... temmytharyor@gmail.com / 08132618792(call nd WhatsApp ) i love to also bring a suggestion of creating a WhatsApp page so as to give instant help... thanks alot God bless our labour
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by somebody02: 2:15pm On May 07, 2016
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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by lawstenie: 3:31pm On May 07, 2016
hello, please ooo why do my fingerlings have scars on the fins and body which comes and goes. I change water every one to two days.

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by pumppie: 8:43pm On May 07, 2016
KayDawodu:


You did mention 48 bags of 4mm vital feed at 4,250.
yes i mentioned 48 bags of 4mm vital feed @ 4,250 per one. total= N204,000. n;b the rate (4,250) was a discount rate cos bulk purchase was made. currently, almost all feeds have increased prices but i'm sure u will get some discount if u buy in bulk. regards
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by ennybiyi: 7:46am On May 08, 2016
Plz how much is a bag of Aller aqua right now in the market?
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Nobody: 8:51am On May 08, 2016
Seen.
Concrete and tarpauline pond.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 4:58pm On May 08, 2016
lawstenie:
hello, please ooo why do my fingerlings have scars on the fins and body which comes and goes. I change water every one to two days.
age? scars/bruises/patches? Just Treat with antibiotic & evaluate d following; do you overfeed(you can pollute your water even in a day) , do u let out all the water & allow your fishes rub or their body on bare surface/against themselves without water or is your pond having a cummulation of excessive slime that could trigger infection. it is not only number of days u change water that determines good water mgt
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by miqos02(m): 7:38pm On May 08, 2016
somebody02:
@Robonski-Soft77-Mr Kilani we don sell your "giant/fast growing fishes" ooo. dem big no b small, average of 300g @4th month.
as u do me Na so God go do una life.
@Cleo, sold yours?
na melange u raise oh, what % profit did u made?
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by stonedigital: 9:34pm On May 08, 2016
Hello house
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by stonedigital: 9:39pm On May 08, 2016
somebody02:
@Robonski-Soft77-Mr Kilani we don sell your "giant/fast growing fishes" ooo. dem big no b small, average of 300g @4th month.
as u do me Na so God go do una life.
@Cleo, sold yours?

Hello sir, did u plan on raising 300g fish from the beginning? Or u made profit? . please share ur experience so that others can learn from it.thanks
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by lawstenie: 9:43pm On May 08, 2016
excelsiorfarm:
age? scars/bruises/patches? Just Treat with antibiotic & evaluate d following; do you overfeed(you can pollute your water even in a day) , do u let out all the water & allow your fishes rub or their body on bare surface/against themselves without water or is your pond having a cummulation of excessive slime that could trigger infection. it is not only number of days u change water that determines good water mgt


Thnks you Sir! Yes i let out all d water. They are 3wks old. Will avoid dt and see. And I dnt know if i overfeed but am very sure they leave any feed uneaten. But their belly looks bloated fter feedin. Will take corrections asap
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 10:17pm On May 08, 2016
lawstenie:



Thnks you Sir! Yes i let out all d water. They are 3wks old. Will avoid dt and see. And I dnt know if i overfeed but am very sure they leave any feed uneaten. But their belly looks bloated fter feedin. Will take corrections asap
Thank God sir. if U can lay your hands on aquapro, pls get it. it aids growth & aids immune of d fishes
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by chilanfarms(m): 5:00am On May 09, 2016
eluyode:
to everyone in this trend say a BIG THANK YOU... bcus you have shed light on my heart aching issues. @pumppie pls is there a way i can contact you.... also is there anyone from ile-ife here.... my contact... temmytharyor@gmail.com / 08132618792(call nd WhatsApp ) i love to also bring a suggestion of creating a WhatsApp page so as to give instant help... thanks alot God bless our labour
# u can add chilanfarms on 07065874135 we offer free consultation to intending farmers n newbies. Goodluck!
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Jswart: 6:59am On May 09, 2016
ennybiyi:
Plz how much is a bag of Aller aqua right now in the market?

For Aller Aqua feed You can call Foluso on 07037795590. He is their regional sales manager.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by stonedigital: 9:01am On May 09, 2016
eluyode:
to everyone in this trend say a BIG THANK YOU... bcus you have shed light on my heart aching issues. @pumppie pls is there a way i can contact you.... also is there anyone from ile-ife here.... my contact... temmytharyor@gmail.com / 08132618792(call nd WhatsApp ) i love to also bring a suggestion of creating a WhatsApp page so as to give instant help... thanks alot God bless our labour



Please add stone digital farm. 08025296420. From lagos
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by lawstenie: 11:15am On May 09, 2016
excelsiorfarm:
Thank God sir. if U can lay your hands on aquapro, pls get it. it aids growth & aids immune of d fishe



Ok sir, I will do so. But what about the bloated stomach? Is it normal?
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Alohseda: 11:47am On May 09, 2016
House please help, I stocked 1060 juvenille in an earthen pond, at 2 weeks of stocking I started having casualties. My tutor said the water was polluted from other ponds since they are channelled to each other. I pumped out the water and treated with some antiboitics and salt and also blocked the channels to other ponds and things were fine. Now, my fishes will be 5 weeks old in 3 days and 2 days ago I started having casualties again. Today is the third day and I have counted 26 fishes. When it started again I bought Oxytetracycline and mixed with their feed as well as sprinking salt on the water but casualty has not stopped. Today I noticed the dead fishes had swollen chest when I removed them from the pond. My tutor does not have time for now. My fishes are dieing and the cost attached to pumping out of water is about 3500 aside treatment please I need urgent help
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by belusconi: 9:17pm On May 09, 2016
Good Day Sirs,Mas
We are a newly built, developed and equipped Nine Stars Hatchery and Farms located at Shagamu, Ogun State.
With Technologies & Ideas from India, Vietnam, Thailand, China and Nigeria our farm boast a monthly production capacity of about 500,000 or more fingerlings production as of now.
The fries are produced from a selection of hi breed and well taken care 3 to 5 years old Brood stocks. A well balanced diet is followed in taking good care of these parent fishes in which they are fed on high quality proteins for optimal & fertile egg development, B-glucans to support the immunity system, Extra Vitamins C and E to improve the general status and fertility, powerful mix of anti-oxydant and astaxanthin which make sure that the eggs produced are of a very high quality, sustainable and the fries produced would be grown at a greater speed with weight, body & immunity.
Our fingerlings at week 7 to 8 have an ideal size of about 3cm to 5cm weighing about 3 grams to 5 grams, These fingerlings when ready to be moved out of our farm are technically graded and sorted which gives them a uniformity to reach direct to table size level without being sorted or graded again, We have experienced farmers and specialist from India and Nigeria who take care of the well-nourished and nutritional diet of these fingerlings from day 1 of hatching.
We start our opening sales with a promo to encourage more and more local farmers to get into commercial fish farming, our offers as follows:
100 fingerlings with purchase of 1,000 hi breed, very active and fast growing fingerlings.
* 2 bags of 1.8MM/2MM imported fish feed with purchase of 10,000 hi breed, very active and fast growing fingerlings (booking open till stock last)
* 5 bags of 2MM/3MM imported fish feed with purchase of 10,000 hi breed, very active and fast growing juvenile (Only on pre-booking and waiting of max 2 weeks)
Kindly check out & like our page on Facebook - Nine Stars Hatchery and Farms for more details, information and new promo offers.
Contact: Mr. Seun ( 07053823433)

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