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The Christian Doctrine Grid by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:51pm On Feb 29, 2016 |
The Christian Doctrine Grid This thread attempts to distinguish between the essentials and non essentials of the Christian doctrines. If you don't believe the essentials then you must know that you are definitely not a Christian. https://carm.org/christian-doctrine-grid 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Christian Doctrine Grid by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:06pm On Mar 01, 2016 |
OLAADEGBU: Christian Doctrine Grid by Matt Slick Following is a proposed chart that offers a layout of Biblical orthodoxy. It is designed to help categorize various doctrines into levels of importance. I admit that some of these are debatable, and I do not claim absolute correctness on all points - only the essentials. It is an attempt to develop an understanding based on what Scripture actually says rather than what a lot of people like to declare is essential. This chart is a suggestion which, I hope, will aid people in discerning what is essential from what is not essential. I divide Christian theology into two categories: Primary and Secondary Essentials. Primary essentials are doctrines the Scriptures explicitly declare are essential. But, with the secondary essentials the Scriptures do not make such statements. The secondary essentials are derived from the primary essentials and also properly define orthodoxy. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Christian Doctrine Grid by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:31pm On Mar 03, 2016 |
OLAADEGBU: C H R I S T I A N - D O C T R I N E IMPORTANCE Primary Essentials Stated specifically in Scripture that these cannot be denied and still be a Christian. They deal with the nature of God, the atonement, and its method of salvation applied to the believer. Denial of any Primary essential constitutes lack of regeneration, lack of salvation. Note: Regeneration means the believer is indwelt by God, changed, and enabled to understand spiritual things (1 Cor. 2:15) SUBJECT 1) Jesus is both God and man (John 1:1, 14, 8:24, Col. 2:9, 1 John 4:1-4). 2) Jesus rose from the dead physically (John 2:19-21, 1 Cor. 15:14). 3) Salvation is by grace through faith alone (Rom. 5:1, Eph. 2:8-9, Gal. 3:1-2, 5:1-4). 4) The gospel is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus according to the Scriptures (1 Cor. 15:1-4, Gal. 1:8-9). 5) There is only one God (Exodus 20:3, Isaiah 43:10, 44:6, 8 ). RELIGIOUS GROUPS Groups denying these: Christadelphianism - 1, 3 Christian Science - 1, 3, 4 Islam - 1, 2, 3, 4 Jehovah's Witnesses - 1, 2, 3 Mormonism - 3, 4, 5 Roman Catholicism - 3 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Christian Doctrine Grid by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:00pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
Primary essentials are doctrines the Scriptures explicitly declare are essential. |
Re: The Christian Doctrine Grid by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:52pm On Mar 14, 2016 |
OLAADEGBU: Comments: Denial of any of the above doctrines as stated in Scripture constitutes being non-Christian. |
Re: The Christian Doctrine Grid by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:15pm On Apr 07, 2016 |
OLAADEGBU: SUBJECT Secondary Essentials Not stated in Scripture as essential but are derivatively essential since they deal with accurately describing the true God and they are based, in part, on the Primary Essentials. Denial strongly suggests lack of regeneration. 6) God exists as a Trinity of persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. 7) Jesus was born of the Virgin Mary (nature of incarnation). 8.) Jesus is the only way to God the Father (John 14:6). Groups denying these: Christadelphianism - 6 Islam - 6, 8 Jehovah's Witnesses - 6 Mormonism - 6 Oneness Pentecostal - 6 Comments: God is a Trinity. And though a person may not understand or initially affirm the Trinity doctrine upon regeneration, he will eventually come to accept it since it is a Biblically true revelation describing the true God. Jesus was born of a virgin which is essential when defending the two natures of Jesus: divine and human. If Jesus were not born of a virgin, then His patronage would be in doubt as well as His divinity. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Christian Doctrine Grid by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:30am On May 06, 2016 |
OLAADEGBU: Most Groups affirm: Moral integrity, marriage fidelity, inerrancy, etc. Mormonism denies - 12 Islam denies - 12 and 13 ICOC denies 13 Primary Non-Essentials (1 John 2:4). Denying these can bring one's salvation into question since the regenerate seek to live according to God's Word. Violating them does not automatically mean the person is not saved since Christians fall into various sins. However, abiding in sins with unrepentance would be evidence that the person is not regenerated. 9) Moral integrity (Exodus 20:1-17). 10) Fidelity in marriage in heterosexual relationships. 11) The condemnation of homosexuality. 12) Inerrancy of the Bible. 13) Baptism is not necessary for salvation (Acts 10:44-48). Comments: The fruit of the indwelling Spirit of God is agreement in word and deed with the Scriptures. The Primary Non-Essentials are those teachings that the Bible does not declare as essential to salvation, however, to affirm otherwise is evidence of lack of regeneration since they are the fruit of the regenerate mind and heart. |
Re: The Christian Doctrine Grid by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:03am On May 08, 2016 |
OLAADEGBU: Denomination Division Denominational difference often result due to these issues. Secondary Non-Essentials Any of them can be denied or affirmed, and regeneration is not in questioned. 14) Predestination, election, limited atonement, and free will. 15) Communion every week, monthly, or quarterly, etc. 16) Saturday or Sunday Worship. 17) Pre-, mid-, post-trib rapture. 18) Premillennialism, Amill., Postmill., partial-preterism. 19) Continuation or cessation of the charismatic gifts. 20) Baptism for adults or infants. 21) Musical Instruments in church. Comments: The subjects in the Secondary Non-Essentials area whether affirmed or denied have no bearing on the status of a person before God. They are opinions - various positions held. Unfortunately, it is in these non-essentials that many denominational differences result. |
Re: The Christian Doctrine Grid by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:06pm On May 09, 2016 |
OLAADEGBU: Liberal interpretation problem. Examples of bad Biblical interpretations. Christian Heresies These do not contradict the essentials but do contradict non-essential teachings. 22) Universalism (See, Can a Christian be a universalist?) 23) Open Theism. 24) Annihilationism. 25) Possession of Christians by demons. 26) Christians are to be healthy and wealthy by the fact of being Christians. 27) Women pastors and elders. Comments: Affirming the doctrines in this grey section are signs of significant lack of understanding of Biblical theology. Nevertheless, believing them does not negate salvation. |
Re: The Christian Doctrine Grid by Rilwayne001: 6:10pm On May 09, 2016 |
OLAADEGBU: Quite unfortunate that Annunaki is going to Olaadegbu's hell fire simply because he doesn't believe Jesus is God. Issorait |
Re: The Christian Doctrine Grid by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:39pm On May 12, 2016 |
Rilwayne001: That does not make him a candidate of hell rejecting that Jesus is the Son of God will. |
Re: The Christian Doctrine Grid by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:21pm On May 18, 2016 |
OLAADEGBU: Are Christian heresies not harmful? |
Re: The Christian Doctrine Grid by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:17am On Jun 23, 2016 |
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Re: The Christian Doctrine Grid by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:21pm On Nov 02, 2016 |
OLAADEGBU: Revisited. |
Re: The Christian Doctrine Grid by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:09am On Mar 20, 2019 |
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Re: The Christian Doctrine Grid by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:10am On Mar 20, 2019 |
The Christian Doctrine Grid Continued.
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Re: The Christian Doctrine Grid by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:28pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
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Re: The Christian Doctrine Grid by tartar9(m): 2:30am On Mar 21, 2019 |
Is Islam a xtian group,what is it doing there? |
Re: The Christian Doctrine Grid by Janosky: 2:58am On Mar 21, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU:3 face godhead devotees and gullible slaves of pastorpreneur con men playing god. Oturugbeke ! https://www.nairaland.com/1049799/some-deeper-life -practices-alien |
Re: The Christian Doctrine Grid by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:40pm On Mar 22, 2019 |
tartar9: What is a xtian group? |
Re: The Christian Doctrine Grid by Nobody: 3:33pm On Mar 22, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU This thread is on point. kudos |
Re: The Christian Doctrine Grid by Shepherd00: 4:22pm On Mar 22, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU:What is Christadelphianism? and what do they preach? I'm familiar with others |
Re: The Christian Doctrine Grid by Shepherd00: 4:27pm On Mar 22, 2019 |
Rilwayne001:Keep lying against him knowing his name not here to defend himself. |
Re: The Christian Doctrine Grid by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:22pm On Mar 22, 2019 |
Janosky: I hope you have seen where your organisation stands in the tabulation posted. |
Re: The Christian Doctrine Grid by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:58pm On Apr 06, 2019 |
tartar9: Did you see Islam listed under religious groups? |
Re: The Christian Doctrine Grid by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:26pm On Jun 05, 2019 |
solite3: As long as we stick to the essentials we are all good. |
Re: The Christian Doctrine Grid by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:15pm On Sep 02, 2019 |
Shepherd00: I'm sorry for getting back to you this late. See the link below for more details on the sect. You can also study the Christian doctrine grid posted above to know what doctrines they deny. https://carm.org/christadelphianism |
Re: The Christian Doctrine Grid by vybzkartel: 6:27pm On Sep 02, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU: You are wrong on the Jehovah witnesses, theirs is actually 1, 2,3, 4 and 5 |
Re: The Christian Doctrine Grid by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:36pm On Sep 02, 2019 |
vybzkartel: Good catch! You are actually right. JWs don't believe in the bodily resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ and they also believe that Jesus is a god. |
Re: The Christian Doctrine Grid by vybzkartel: 7:06pm On Sep 02, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU: They are not Christians; they are jehovians |
Re: The Christian Doctrine Grid by Janosky: 7:48pm On Sep 02, 2019 |
vybzkartel:LYING vybzkartel of FALSEHOOD. Acts3:13, Revelation 3:12 reset your brain.... |
Re: The Christian Doctrine Grid by Janosky: 7:55pm On Sep 02, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU: John10:34-37 Jesus Christ is a god. (Jesus says God's sons are gods. Jesus Christ is God's son. Gaskiya !). IRREFUTABLE PROOF !!!!!!! |
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