joseph1832:
Aye!. And what do you suppose a cheating wife should do to her cheating husband?

Frankly speaking, not my business. I am not here to discuss what two cheaters should do to one another. I just know that ending someone's life is the worst you can do to yourself and your entire family.

Mindfulness:
Jungle justice is much more dangerous than cheating. In a society where jungle justice is the order of the day, innocent people can be killed without a fair trial. I can shout "thief" and a mob will come after you. A man can claim that his wife was cheating and get scot-free even though in fact he just wanted to get rid of her. People can be killed without proper evidence. It is a scary place to be.

1. So,you accept that cheating is dangerous? Therefore, the relative degree of danger is subjective

2. Nobody is arguing for jungle justice. And the premise was not in response to allegations of cheating, but a womans "right to cheat" and not be subject to violence, or expect it as a possible consequence - given human nature - as we both agree - it's always a possibility, even if not a good or rightful outcome. Please do not blur the boundaries

Mindfulness:
Moreover, and I know we won't agree here, even if you are married to someone, the person can decide to do with their body whatever they choose to. A marriage is not slavery. And if the person chooses to break the marriage vows, you are free to leave them. Killing this person is not a solution.

1. Not if one has already vowed marital fidelity. Again, a faulty notion of "rights" pervades the thinking here.

2. One is free not to enter marriage, and as much as I don't subscribe to divorce for pretty much any reason, one could also leave the marriage.

Killing is certainly not a solution. What is cheating a solution too? And it is not a right if you take marriage vows!

Mindfulness:
It is an opinion, indeed. However, it is also a subjective opinion that cheating is such a big deal.

But it's not a subjective opinion that killing is a big deal

sweetcocoa:
You don't know anything, biko leave me alone and quote people who'd like you to, I don't, na by force? Nama.

Did you nail the exam, or are you actually here when you ought to be studying?


TV

Oyind17:
Lol, this my friend can yarn, when men cheat on their wives, the women in this part of the world let go and some can't even confront their cheating husbands. So men are expected to do same. Forgive her and continue with the marriage.

A cheating wife would lose the respect of her children, and everyone would doubt the paternity of her wards. The same can not be said about men.

It's a social thing.

In the event of pregnancy while philandering, a man can decide to bring home his side chick and make her a second wife (on tribal or religious ground), but a woman cannot. Whose house would she bring her boyfriend to? Her husband's home?

sweetcocoa:
Good, that is what we should be addressing here not cheating, cos believe me, people will always cheat and if we all resort to murder in reaction to that, only very few people like me, would be left.

Acidosis:


I tried to agree with all the points you've raised until I saw the last paragraph.

Do you honestly believe a man can cope with a woman with two husbands? If you support men with 3 or more wives, what would be your recommendations for women?

It is possible. Some cultures have been practicing it for a long time.

In my own school of thought, it is abnormal to take marital oath with more than 1 spouse. Whoever loves the fantasy of multiple partners should stay single.

This is how you have been socialized.

I believe in freedom of choice. There is no reason why three or four consenting adults should not be allowed to or condemned for starting a family together. It has worked perfectly well for many people. And it is better than cheating because it is honest.

kaboninc:


That is the difference between a man and a woman. Men and territory. Men can forgive but continue? Yes he can but it won't be the same as before.

That's his headache! Women take all manner of rubbish from men but they feel its a man's world and cheat as they like but the moment a woman do same both the society and the cheat won't let her be I'm not saying women should cheat tho.

sweetcocoa:
Good, that is what we should be addressing here not cheating, cos believe me, people will always cheat and if we all resort to murder in reaction to that, only very few people like me, would be left.

see you!

Mindfulness:


Frankly speaking, not my business. I am not here to discuss what two cheaters should do to one another. I just know that ending someone's life is the worst you can do to yourself and your entire family.

Good lord!.. Now I'm singing Joe 'Good Girls'

Why are all the good girls, taken everytime
And why do I keep falling for
Someone else's dime
Everytime I says Hello
Then they say Goodbye
So why are all you good girls
Taken everytime....
Taken everytime..

nnamdibig:


Unfortunately, it doesn't because men are allowed to marry many wives. My point is that these domestic violence that is grown should be checked right from the beginning. Some families will openly tell you that they won't collect s dime in the name of bride price cos their daughter is not for sell. While some will extort the man to the point that it becomes a quarrel. In that case because of our ego as men, the husband will never hesitate to remind the wife how he paid all that was required of him to make her his own that he must obey all he said. And you know most women don't like it when men start going that side. That's one of the primary causes of this whole thing.

Bros, you are diverting to Bride Price again... (which has no bearing to this issue)

As tempted as I am to attribute men treating their wives like chattel to bride Price, I won't because it is not as simple as that. In India, wives pay dowry to their husbands and they do not fare better than Nigerian wives whose husbands pay bride price for.

Again, British women once had to pay dowries and their eligibility increased with their wealth yet they were obviously very maltreated until later.

Ironically, some customs believe the more the bride price paid, the more 'valuable and precious' the wife is.

Mindfulness:


It is possible. Some cultures have been practicing it for a long time.



This is how you have been socialized.

I believe in freedom of choice. There is no reason why three or four consenting adults should not be allowed to or condemned for starting a family together. It has worked perfectly well for many people. And it is better than cheating because it is honest.

Unfortunately, 'multiple partners' has never solved cheating problems.

Oyind17:
That's his headache! Women take all manner of rubbish from men but they feel its a man's world and cheat as they like but the moment a woman do same both the society and the cheat won't let her be I'm not saying women should cheat tho.

Society also frowns at men who cheat. They loose their respect. You could say they don't lose their status but in the hearts of the community, they've lost it.

Society also turns to women, when the men fails, to ensure that same mistakes never occur twice. So if a father behaves irresponsibly, the mother should not be seen to act irresponsibly too as they'll end up raising irresponsible children. Irresponsible society.

Acidosis:

A cheating wife would lose the respect of her children, and everyone would doubt the paternity of her wards. The same can not be said about men.

It's a social thing.

In the event of pregnancy while philandering, a man can decide to bring home his side chick and make her a second wife (on tribal or religious ground), but a woman cannot. Whose house would she bring her boyfriend to? Her husband's home?

Lol, she'll take her boyfriend to hotel. My take is men should stop their cheating habit. My neighbor brought his gf home before his wife. If he is giving his wife 3k for a pot of soup he'll give the girl 5k, when she was narrating it to me, I almost shed tears for her cos she's very fat and can't fight back. No man can try that nonsense with me..who give pencil?

TV01:

Did you nail the exam, or are you actually here when you ought to be studying?

TV

I know what you are doing, just continue you hear. Agadi na gwo ofe.

Acidosis:

see you!

No kidding o

kaboninc:

You know it's true.

bukatyne:
Mr. Brown,
We are not discussing adultery here; we are discussing if death (at the hands of the spouse) is a deserving consequence of adultery.

each and every individual would have a different answer to such question, and many will believe that death is indeed a deserving consequence of adultery... and some country even have it as laws (check Saudia Arabia, Iran, Pakistan, Iraq, Syria, Brunei etc). why do you think there are so many mercy killings in India etc? so again, YES to some it is RIGHT to kill an unfaithful spouse.

And I 100% agree with you that a woman/man shouldn't stay married if they desire to have other partners. I also believe someone who cheats when the other partner errs is indirectly saying they are done with the marriage.

someone who is done with marriage should say so and divorce instead of having sex while being married, expecting their spouse to read their mind (as if she was cheating openly).

This now leads to other questions...
1. Is sex = love
2. Do people who cheat no longer interested in their marriages?

1. NO
2. whether that person is interested (or not) in the marriage is irrelevant, since husband had NO SAY/KNOWLEDGE about the cheating decision that wifey took. so this isnt a MARRIAGE issue, this is an issue of a selfish wife doing what she desired, even though she knew fully well it was against the vows/rules of marriage. by breaking marriage "laws", she indirectly put herself in harm's way, and thats the reason she got hurt.

the important questions you aint asking ARE:
A) would she be in a coffin today if she had acted within the guidelines of marriage?
B) would she be in a coffin today if she had done what is RIGHT and divorce this evil man before having sex with others?

sweetcocoa:
No kidding o


You know it's true.

WE both know otherwise.

TV01:

1. So,you accept that cheating is dangerous? Therefore, the relative degree of danger is subjective

It CAN be dangerous.

Jungle justice is more dangerous because it can also harm people who are PERFECTLY innocent and I wouldn't want to be part of such a society.

2. Nobody is arguing for jungle justice. And the premise was not in response to allegations of cheating, but a womans "right to cheat" and not be subject to violence, or expect it as a possible consequence - given human nature - as we both agree - it's always a possibility, even if not a good or rightful outcome. Please do not blur the boundaries

Whether she actually cheats or not, it is wrong to take her life for the reasons I have already outlined.

1. Not if one has already vowed marital fidelity. Again, a faulty notion of "rights" pervades the thinking here.

TV, the reality is that people take these vows and break them all the time. Maybe we should re-consider the vows. I know you don't like it but to me these vows are so naive.

2. One is free not to enter marriage, and as much as I don't subscribe to divorce for pretty much any reason, one could also leave the marriage.

True but people enter marriage with best intentions and then life happens!

Killing is certainly not a solution. What is cheating a solution too? And it is not a right if you take marriage vows!

Murder has not solved anything but cheating has.
I know of a man who cheated on his wife who didn't fulfill her 'marital duties' for one reason or another and let herself go after marriage. She became unattractive, unavailable and even aggressive. The man tried to fix it but to no avail. Frustrated as he was, he started cheating on her. It was a great relief for him. He decided not leave his wife because of his children. When the wife found out that he was cheating, she made a transformation.

Competition - the say - stimulates business.

But it's not a subjective opinion that killing is a big deal

Is it?

sweetcocoa:
I know what you are doing, just continue you hear. Agadi na gwo ofe.

We all know that attention is your lifeblood - thank me for contributing to your well-being

No excuses 0! We expect good results given the effort put into schooling you up in here.


TV

^{...shaybebaby, did you pass? No more posting until you do}

kaboninc:


WE both know otherwise.

Not looking to convince you, whatever you think you know is your right.

We don't know the same though.

sweetcocoa:
Not looking to convince you, whatever you think you know is your right.

We don't know the same though.

This RIGHTS thing sef...my right, your rights, their rights...has put the world into more trouble already.

My right to cheat, my right to love, you right to agree or not to agree, the right for TeeBillz to patronize EC? LOL

It will be a boring place if we don't quarrel or fight once in a while. If we don't trample on each other's right.

Don't you think so?

lezz:


A woman's cheating, by the very nature of her sexual and emotional disposition, entails far more graver betrayal than that of a man.
Chauvinist? Maybe, but true all the same.

thats the HYPOCRISY of human beings i talked about earlier....

A man may cheat and still worships the very ground his wife walks.
A woman may cheat and she's body and soul detached from her husband completely.

what difference the above make?! instead of selfishly focussing on how the cheating person feels at that moment, think of the DAMAGE it causes to their partner instead... and understand that it is the SAME. who cares anyway why people decide to cheat? its WRONG and thats just that!

Acidosis:


Unfortunately, 'multiple partners' has never solved cheating problems.

Far more often than murder.

joseph1832:
Good lord!.. Now I'm singing Joe 'Good Girls'

Why are all the good girls, taken everytime
And why do I keep falling for
Someone else's dime
Everytime I says Hello
Then they say Goodbye
So why are all you good girls
Taken everytime....
Taken everytime..

Are you saying I am a good girl?

TV01:

We all know that attention is your lifeblood - thank me for contributing to your well-being

No excuses 0! We expect good results given the effort put into schooling you up in here.


TV

I'm sure many on here are starting to notice, your day is not complete till you quote me, says a lot about who's attention really matters to the other, so stop fooling yourself, thinking you fooling anyone.

We are onto you.

kaboninc:


This RIGHTS thing sef...my right, your rights, their rights...has put the world into more trouble already.

My right to cheat, my right to love, you right to agree or not to agree, the right for TeeBillz to patronize EC? LOL

It will be a boring place if we don't quarrel or fight once in a while. If we don't trample on each other's right.

Don't you think so?

It don't, the world will be a better place, there's already enough to keep us entertained without trampling on each other.

Mindfulness:

Maybe these fragile men should make better choices or first go through some therapy.

you are again putting the carriage before the horse.... shouldnt it be these fragile unfaithful women that should get therapy 1st?!

I know but this understanding won't save them from the consequences they will have to face afterwards.

this man is ready to face the possible lifetime in jail he may get, just like all the others who had a bout of temporary insanity

sweetcocoa:
It don't, the world will be a better place, there's already enough to keep us entertained without trampling on each other.

Lol.


We could trample on each other without being violent or going that extreme, like murder.

Come to think of it also...

Supposing the wars and conflict stops in the Middle East, the drug cartels just stop smuggling drugs, men stop cheating and women stop using men as a means to their ends, poverty ends....don't you think it will be odd? Weird?

When I stay, we do have issues with NEPA. So within a period, we began to have stable power supply. Then the people began to complain that the light is tooo much!. That they are tired of the light. LOL

MRBrownJ:


you are again putting the carriage before the horse.... shouldnt it be these fragile unfaithful women that should get therapy 1st?!



this man is ready to face the possible lifetime in jail he may get, just like all the others who had a bout of temporary insanity

What is it with you and women?

It appears you have a cause or an axe to grind or a score to settle with them dolls.

Did they do you chomchin?

MRBrownJ:


you are again putting the carriage before the horse.... shouldnt it be these fragile unfaithful women that should get therapy 1st?!

Well, you said these men were fragile.
A woman who milks a man and then cheats on him does not appear to be fragile but sneaky and and sly.

this man is ready to face the possible lifetime in jail he may get, just like all the others who had a bout of temporary insanity

She wasn't worth it, was she?

The right to associate is a fundamental right, so if your wife is cheating on you, try and talk it through and hope for better or let her go.

Men have not evolved to solve crisis through organized speech. Women have. Men are still on the level of lower animals that is why they resort to violence to solve conflicts. Yup I said it!

Stillfire:


Men have not evolved to solve crisis through organized speech. Women have. Men are still on the level of lower animals that is why they resort to violence to solve conflicts. Yup I said it!

I know you are joking but what about all these women who fight the mistress?

They regressed?

Oyind17:
Lol, she'll take her boyfriend to hotel. My take is men should stop their cheating habit. My neighbor brought his gf home before his wife. If he is giving his wife 3k for a pot of soup he'll give the girl 5k, when she was narrating it to me, I almost shed tears for her cos she's very fat and can't fight back. No man can try that nonsense with me..who give pencil?

Hmmn, truly, the attitude of some men is distastefully shameful.

I hope your neighbor is not cohabiting?