MRBrownJ:


yes it is true that men generally have a higher sex drive than women but that doesnt mean they should disrespect their partner and cheat. its the men that can control themselves who cheat (aka the weak ones). you see, any man can get into a situation and find himself with a beautiful nekkid woman and a hard on, the important point is that it is his BRAIN/MIND that would make him approach that woman and eat the forbidden fruit. cheating is a CHOICE that men who cant control themselves consciously make, because they are weak.

joseph1832:
I'm saying you're already taken.

kaboninc:


Today we look at fossil fuel and the technology behind it. But the craze around it has lead nations to become enemies with each other. There have always been diseases but the innovations around developing medicines have led to growing resistance by these organisms. That brings out opportunities for profit. Like the vaccine scam in Northern Nigeria. The Internet was actually developed for the US military but in reality, it was to project their superior force to the world. Computers were actually designed to make life easier. But today, the idea behind it has turned some parts of the world into deadly weapons. Supposing there were no innovation, what would have been the fate of mankind?


I don't know how you define flirting but for me, once am not into any one, then I flirt. I could be in a relationship but if the relationship no get leg, then I flirt.

kaboninc:


How do you suggest they liberate themselves from men?

sweetcocoa:
I'm not arguing that the world isn't the way it is, I'm saying, we can be innovative without trampling on each other, had we done it right from the get go.

I'm not talking flirting alone, didn't you read me say I haven't slept with no other but my partner when in a relationship? Have you had sex outside your relationship?

MRBrownJ:


FIXED AGAIN.... dont just listen to the one sided people quick to talk about what they dont know.



yes it is true that men generally have a higher sex drive than women but that doesnt mean they should disrespect their partner and cheat. its the men that can control themselves who cheat (aka the weak ones). you see, any man can get into a situation and find himself with a beautiful nekkid woman and a hard on, the important point is that it is his BRAIN/MIND that would make him approach that woman and eat the forbidden fruit. cheating is a CHOICE that men who cant control themselves consciously make, because they are weak.

sweetcocoa:
liberate themselves from men who think they are gods and the women, nothing, is what we are saying.

They should start by leaving such men.

fancyupage:


what are you fixing? that Lekan was beating his wife and promised not to do it again is an established fact. CONFIRMED

lezz:
You're a misconstruer!!! I have given no reason to cheat yet. I simply stated a man may cheat and still have unflinching love for his wife and I submitted it isn't so for (the average) woman. Lolz, you've got to keep within the thin rails of logic here.

Ignorantly simplistic. Infact borderline naivety!!! There are instances where the dearth of love and affection can spur men and women to cheat.

And there are other instances particular to men with cheating: Just for the fücking fun of it.

How can "weakness" be why everyone cheats?

She didn't ask for your view on why people cheat, she asked for your take on my submissions.

Mindfulness:


It's true but I am free to be platonic friends with many people.

MRBrownJ:


then as the man claimed he didnt do it, why dont you let that same law run its course... innocent until proven guilty, right?



FIXED

kaboninc:


But the let go, we just don't know. But since you don't believe in creation (as told by any faith), what then is your opinion about creation. About the beginning?

LOOOOL. No I haven't had SEX outside my relationship. That't if its really a relationship as I see it.

Mindfulness:
My husband has similar views.

My views are slightly different. Anyway. I need to prepare something to eat. Have a nice evening. I enjoyed this conversation very much.

It was nice having a diversity of opinions in a peaceful atmosphere.

fancyupage:
What are you fixing? I have already put Alleged where it is appropriate. No one dies because of cheating so there cannot be an allegation. Cheating does not kill, men and women kill. That Lekan is abusive and jealous is an established fact with loads of evidence and he is not denying that as well. The only appropriate place for allegation is that of saying he murdered...which I already did. So please stop your fantasy of fixed lol

kaboninc:


Bae, men will always be gods to not just women but other men. And I think there's a name for women folks, goddess. But the funny thing is that the gods have always been a god to the goddesses. LOL.

It really is a man's world.

After a woman liberates herself from the men, should aspire to lead the man in every aspect of life. Now imagine a world ruled by a woman? LOL

Rather, women should look for ways of being productive and responsible to themselves.

kaboninc:


What is it with you and women?

It appears you have a cause or an axe to grind or a score to settle with them dolls.

Did they do you chomchin?

sweetcocoa:
I don't have to have an opinion on the matter do I? I still am doing my research anyways, I just know however, that what faith teaches is bullsh1t.

You are not really saying anything, but it's aite, I know what to believe.

Mindfulness:
It CAN be dangerous.

Jungle justice is more dangerous because it can also harm people who are PERFECTLY innocent and I wouldn't want to be part of such a society.

Mindfulness:
Whether she actually cheats or not, it is wrong to take her life for the reasons I have already outlined.

Mindfulness:
TV, the reality is that people take these vows and break them all the time. Maybe we should re-consider the vows. I know you don't like it but to me these vows are so naive.

Mindfulness:
True but people enter marriage with best intentions and then life happens!

Mindfulness:
Murder has not solved anything but cheating has.
I know of a man who cheated on his wife who didn't fulfill her 'marital duties' for one reason or another and let herself go after marriage. She became unattractive, unavailable and even aggressive. The man tried to fix it but to no avail. Frustrated as he was, he started cheating on her. It was a great relief for him. He decided not leave his wife because of his children. When the wife found out that he was cheating, she made a transformation.

Competition - the say - stimulates business.

MRBrownJ:


your hubby must be a great man, lol! slightly different? hhmm ok, have a great evening and you will have plenty of time to let us know your views on infidelity, some other days.



so that man is guilty, right? without a shadow of doubt, and therefore we should just lock him up for life, abi?
did the husband confirmed that he was abusive and jealous, or is that also the "he say she say" BS newspaper claims?

sweetcocoa:
A god and a goddess are on the same scale, just different genders. Heck some versions of tantra places the goddesses above the gods, so it's all about what you believe.

What is wrong with a world led by women? Women have been leading in various institutions/organisations and have been doing great, so..

Women have been productive since time immemorial, men have just been mostly assh0les because they have physical strength on their side.

Bae? What's that?

MRBrownJ:


lol, sadly you are only focussing on the threads that interest you... check again to understand that it is all about common sense (and not gender related) because when i then call men donkeys and stand for women, they then gladly call me women wrapper, and its all good.

kaboninc:


The thing with atheist against theist most especially of the Christian faith is they think the teachings about the subject of faith is very exclusive to the Christianity.

That's why Christianity records the highest conversion rate from theist to atheist. When atheist say they don't believe in the existence of a being, they are actually referring to the Christian God.

Faith is just believing something will happen. Something good in your favour. If it does happen, your faith in whatever it is increases and if it doesn't, you loose interest.


Lol. I've never had sex while still in relationship. Have you considered having sex while still in a relationship?

bukatyne:


Are you honestly implying that it is 'OK' to kill a cheating wife/spouse?

sweetcocoa:
What you have up there is a misguided opinion on atheists, you are the one to tell atheists what they think? Very laughable.
Ask questions if you don't know something jor.

No faith is not believing something good will happen in one's favour, it is having trust/confidence in a person or thing.


I have not considered having sex outside my relationship, I have had the urge though.

MRBrownJ:


again, what that cheater feels is IRRELEVANT here as the basis of it is that they couldnt respect the rules of the r/ship they have, due to their WEAKNESSES. if these men indeed had unflinching love for their partner (as if that matters) then they would TELL their spouse about it before doing the unthinkable. you know, love/honesty/trust/respect, right?
how can anyone have unflinching love for a person and joyfully DISRESPECT that person and the union they have?!

MRBrownJ:


YES, because they cant control themselves and respect the r/ship they are in.



again, because they cant control themselves and respect the r/ship they are in. you can call it whatever you like (fun/madness etc) but at the end of the day, its all about a person who cant control themselves, and respect the rules of the r/ship they are in.



read the above answer

MRBrownJ:



and i decided to reply to YOUR failed statement about why men and women cheat, thats why i quoted YOU and not her....

fancyupage:


Please don't miscontrue this debate, the issue here is an allegation of abuse which led to murder and only a court can determine a guilt verdict. I have maintained it is an allegation

kaboninc:


Bae = baby

The world was built to be managed by men. Simple reason is that women bring in emotion into every decision they will make. Am not saying we can't have good leaders who are women. Strong leadership skills. But you find that in very small numbers. And women, by their nature tend to tilt towards less energy, critical reasoning activities and more to tender, mild and emotional things.

Heck even your physical build gives you up. That's different with men. The muscle signifies strength and that's one key attribute of a leader.

So what happens to the home when the woman starts to pursue what the man pursues?

Then why do you ladies feel we're competing with you,?

sweetcocoa:
You go about calling every woman bae?

Women bring emotion into everything yet we are here discussing men who let their emotions drive them to the point of murder, how ironic.

kaboninc:


So what's you basis for concluding that there's no god?

What I defined as faith is just same as what you gave up there. I have this confidence that you won't fail me when I call for your help. That's me showing faith in you, in your ability, in your capability. And its something good.

Would you be open to having sex outside your relationship?

sweetcocoa:
I haven't conclusively said there is no god, I just don't believe in any as there is no evidence to support the claims of god.

It's not the same thing, you are now "changing mouth" you initially said it is believing something good will happen in one's favour but it is a whole lot bigger than that, religious people don't know how the earth came to be, but they trust and believe their various gods did it, how does that translate to something good happening to them?

No I would not, flirting is already bad enough and causes trouble.

TV01:

Cheating is always dangerous - the outcomes may vary. Nobody is sanctioning jungle justice, we are merely saying violence, is one possible outcome of cheating - cause & effect!

So rather than assert that a woman has a right to cheat and the man should never seek recourse in violence, condemn the cheating, which is wrong and the cause, as well as the violence, which is also wrong, but a consequence.

Even the law recognises this via "crimes of passion".


No one has claimed it is right, good, fitting, proper or appropriate, merely a possible consequence of her original wrong (cheating) - which we have now learnt is a right


So to make a case against violence, you would condone cheating and covenant breaking - can't you see why you are on to a loser here?
Nobody is forced into marriage, or to take vows, people can arrang etheir domestic affairs as they see fit. If they see fit to marry, let them honour marriage and abide by it's rules.


"Life" may affect ones situation, it shouldn't change ones character


You have no way of knowing what other pathologies his cheating triggered, or other possible outcomes. His cheating could have triggered a violent response. And way to prescribe evil as a a way to achieve good .


TV

lezz:


You haven't hit the mark yet. The more you try the wider you're shooting off target and steering this discuss into unrelated waters. You're going to drink a lot of salt water. I have a feeling this is a female hiding behind this moniker. No male will be so inexperienced and subjective!!!

Tell me, what "union are you talking about? A traditional marriage or a Christian one?

So in the world where you reside, only " weakness " spurs cheating? Some men cheat for ego, infact only religion has sought to moralise a man's desire for women.

Bukatyn's question was: when couples cheat do they want out of marriage?
When exactly did you quarrel with Mr. Logic?
I have answered her by telling her for men and women it is different. Most men who cheat still want their marriages. Women who cheat will likely stay if their husbands are the main breadwinner.

lezz:
A woman's cheating, by the very nature of her sexual and emotional disposition, entails far more graver betrayal than that of a man.

Chauvinist? Maybe, but true all the same.

A man may cheat and still worships the very ground his wife walks.

A woman may cheat and she's body and soul detached from her husband completely.[/b]

Mindfulness:
If a spouse breaks the marriage vows, you are free to go. I don't see how violence will fix any problems but I can see how it will create more problems. I think it would go a long way if we offered constructive solutions instead of offering understanding for destructive behavior. My two cents.

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