Femiwilli:
Nigerians avoid this Joseph Prince, he is illuminati



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVuO7czOVT0

lol Illuminati indeed... please stop this, you are doing the work of Satan who doesn't want God's children to know the truth

shadrach77:
I like this! This gives every Christian hope. It's funny the thread is still on the first page. How will it add more pages when it's not about Tonto Dike's breast ?

lol

Joseph Prince is just a false preacher who speaks no truth but sugarcoated Gospel. Their likes are the ones making bad politicians claim Christian and keep on being extremely corrupt, they won't preach about sin because it doesn't exist to them. He's either a demon in human flesh helping the devil to pack souls to hell or a chronic apostate.

breakingbad:
Why are Christians of nowadays so preoccupied with watering down the issue of sin? Pls stopeeeet. Preaching the Gospel we haven't done effectively yet we are busy bringing diversions and giving ppl licences to kwontinu sinning. Someone reads this and says to himself "I can remain a Vaseline crew member and still retain my first class ticket to heaven" IMO heaven has classes oo. U can't expect a new convert to have same ticket with a veteran soul winner. Classes go dey: 1st class, 2.1, 2.2 and let my people go

That is your opinion not God's opinion. If you read the post very well, you will see the deeper meaning. Ask the Holy Spirit for understanding. Christianity is all about Jesus Christ and His Finished Work on the Cross.

gradeA:

I love pst J. P.
"God is not interested in behaviour modifications but life transformation." Joseph Prince.

Absolutely true!! More grace to you bro!!

Many a times, the problem with believers is we make a mistake, and feel so dejected and vulnerable and just wallow in our sin and self pity.

Thank God for the message of grace. we are not judged by God based on our own rationalization.

When we stumble and fall, pick yourself up, dust yourself and press on even more. Remember God still loves you.

Think about it, you are walking on a road side and while trying to cross a gutter, you slip and fall. If you stand up immediately and dust yourself, your clothes don't become so dirty. but when you remain on the floor and keep rolling, your garment gets so stained. more passer bys even get to see you and not just those people at the scene when you fell. of course you are exposed to more ridicule and shame.


May God help us and give us the grace to endure till the end.

jiggaz:
lol Illuminati indeed... please stop this, you are doing the work of Satan who doesn't want God's children to know the truth

jiggaz, You seem to want to deceive your fellow Nigerians, you are most likely not a christian.

Well explain these hand signs




Explain the video below

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVuO7czOVT0[/quote]


Explain this his satanic quote
www.nairaland.com/attachments/3717384_fbimg1463251949040_jpeg6ef533a5f5d85995231ed116259c582f

See what another NL said

tosinjay:
Joseph Prince is just a false preacher who speaks no truth but sugarcoated Gospel. Their likes are the ones making bad politicians claim Christian and keep on being extremely corrupt, they won't preach about sin because it doesn't exist to them. He's either a demon in human flesh helping the devil to pack souls to hell or a chronic apostate.

Thank you tosinjay

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So y do we bother to confess our sin?

Femiwilli:

jiggaz, You seem to want to deceive your fellow Nigerians, you are most likely not a christian.
Well explain these hand signs


Explain the video below

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVuO7czOVT0
Explain this his satanic quote
www.nairaland.com/attachments/3717384_fbimg1463251949040_jpeg6ef533a5f5d85995231ed116259c582f
See what another NL said
Joseph Prince is just a false preacher who speaks no truth but sugarcoated Gospel. Their likes are the ones making bad politicians claim Christian and keep on being extremely corrupt, they won't preach about sin because it doesn't exist to them. He's either a demon in human flesh helping the devil to pack souls to hell or a chronic apostate.
Thank you tosinjay

I know your type will come and derail this wonderful thread. Look let me tell you, anyone that fights the Gospel of Grace ( which is the real Gospel of Christ ) is indirectly fighting Christ and His Finished Work on the Cross and that makes you an agent of Satan. I am not surprised, the two of you are doing the work of your master but i hope you will answer to Christ on the last day.

Dey there dey spot False Preachers meanwhile you are the real anti Christ, fighting the Gospel of Christ so that you will confuse others. Continue, i have encountered countless of your types here on Nairaland, so i am not fazed by you people. Your opinion does not count, it is God's opinion... I care less about your opinions even if you are 1million fighting the Gospel of grace, i no send you people cos THE REAL GOSPEL MUST BE PREACHED!!!!!

breakingbad:
Why are Christians of nowadays so preoccupied with watering down the issue of sin? Pls stopeeeet. Preaching the Gospel we haven't done effectively yet we are busy bringing diversions and giving ppl licences to kwontinu sinning. Someone reads this and says to himself "I can remain a Vaseline crew member and still retain my first class ticket to heaven" IMO heaven has classes oo. U can't expect a new convert to have same ticket with a veteran soul winner. Classes go dey: 1st class, 2.1, 2.2 and let my people go

Joseph prince is a freemason, so he is devoid of the spirit of God.

That's why this jiggaz is defending him by reply to your comment

jiggaz:
That is your opinion not God's opinion. If you read the post very well, you will see the deeper meaning. Ask the Holy Spirit for understanding. Christianity is all about Jesus Christ and His Finished Work on the Cross.

They are both of the devil.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd3vtUKBB5Q

All these people who lead men to hell by watering down God's word. They already have their conscience seared.
Do we continue to sin because we are in the era of grace? Because there is plenty of grace, abundance of grace? Do we leave a life void of control and discipline because there is a fountain of blood that doesn't run dry to cleans us every time we sin? God forbid.
He that is bad, let him continue
He that is righteous, let him continue
He that is wicked and greedy, continue
He that is a false teacher, continue
We shall all give account.

This guy is wrong on this matter.

Actively committing sin while hoping that you are covered with the righteousness of Christ is the biggest hoax of Christendom.

To be saved you must act right not just talk about it or believe it.

That's why these days you will find Christian spouse snatchers , Christian liars, Christian murderers, Christian child molesters , Christian fraudsters etc, ALL hoping that they will be saved because they are covered with the righteousness of Christ. This is FALSE.

If you Keep doing evil , despite your name tag as a believer, you might be in a danger of eternal rejection.

jiggaz:
Alright, concerning your question of a slave trader being a Believer and still remain a believer? That's where you misunderstood me, my post up there is written to believers in Christ, and who is a believer in Christ?
A Believer in Christ is someone who has put his whole trust on the finished work of Christ. Someone that believes that Jesus Christ is the son of God, who came to the world and died for his sins and God raised Him up on the 3rd day for his Justification. That is a Believer in Christ and this person is now indwelt by the Holy Spirit as a guarantee pending his day of redemption ( bodily redemption i. e Rapture ). He might fall and stumble sometimes but he has the Holy Spirit to guide and direct his pact.

Mind you, a Believer in Christ is different from a church goer oo, spot the difference. A church goer is someone who knows that Christ exists, goes to church because he was born into Christianity but don't acknowledge Jesus Christ as his Lord and personal saviour. He just practices Religion but doesn't have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.
Spot the difference. Most of my posts are addressed to Believers in Christ not Church Goers.

So it possible that an individual guided by the Holy Spirit and a believer in Christ can remain a slave trader trafficking and selling his fellow humans??

Righteousness is the nature of God that gives us the ability to stand blameless in His presence.. It's a gift (Romans 5:17). As He is, so are we on this world.. We are righteous as God is righteous.

Kay17:


So it possible that an individual guided by the Holy Spirit and a believer in Christ can remain a slave trader trafficking and selling his fellow humans??

MAKE UNA LEAVE THAT JIGGAZ, NO BE GOD DEY EIN HEAD!

The pics & videos posted of Joseph Prince is enough evidence that Joseph Prince is of the devil!

If Joseph Prince has been shown to be of the devil and Jiggaz defends him, well it means that Jiggaz too is ....................

I see the guy on God TV, he is just saying heresy. These are teachings the devil brings to kill the God consciousness in human.

The road to heaven is narrow. It cannot accommodate sin.

Work out your salvation with fear and trembling.
Also grow in grace and in the knowledge of God.

Kay17 is an atheist or so if i recall well, yet he's actually making a valid point compared to the professing Christians defending this. All unrighteousness is sin,the blood of Jesus don't cover presumptuous sin.

tartar9:
So you mean for example,the prostîtute @parisbookaddict is as righteous as Jesus(AS) the Slave of Allah,not the arm robber one.
This explains the gross immorality that can be found in your average xtian,after all,someone else has carried your sins.continue deceiving yourselves.

The question to ask is who does God justify?

Is it the pastor or prostitute?

am confused seriously..... cus I sin like crazy yet how can I still be righteous before HIM....it all complicated

breakingbad:
Why are Christians of nowadays so preoccupied with watering down the issue of sin? Pls stopeeeet. Preaching the Gospel we haven't done effectively yet we are busy bringing diversions and giving ppl licences to kwontinu sinning. Someone reads this and says to himself "I can remain a Vaseline crew member and still retain my first class ticket to heaven" IMO heaven has classes oo. U can't expect a new convert to have same ticket with a veteran soul winner. Classes go dey: 1st class, 2.1, 2.2 and let my people go

thats why you should study the book of Romans chapter 6 carefully. its provides concrete answer to your question. mid you, pls do not read with your carnal mind but with the mind of your spirit...the eyes of understanding. thats when you will get the actual message...

Silly as this question sounds I still gotta ask it. If Jesus embraced our sin and became a sinner, where will he end up as a sinner, Heaven or Hell?.

Furthermore, if you a lead a sin free life, it is for your own good. Whatever rules your holy book states is for your own good, whenever there is a transgression, you will suffer for it here on earth, either through impaired health, or sadness, etc. Every action has its consequence, positive or negative.

Therefore, Its not an issue of who died for your sins but of following the laws of the creator.

If Jesus Christ has died for ALL my sins, how can I still go to hell for the same sin? Besides, let's be practical! If being holy or living a righteous life is what guarantees eternal life, nobody would make it!

Even David who God testified was a man after His heart committed adultery & murder.

Eyituoyo7:
If Jesus Christ has died for ALL my sins, how can I still go to hell for the same sin? Besides, let's be practical! If being holy or living a righteous life is what guarantees eternal life, nobody would make it!

Even David who God testified was a man after His heart committed adultery & murder.

The pertinent question you missed: aren't there steps a person has to take to qualify as good?

The pertinent question you missed: aren't there steps a person has to take to qualify as good?

JUST ONE: believe in Jesus Christ.

frosbel2:
This guy is wrong on this matter.

Actively committing sin while hoping that you are covered with the righteousness of Christ is the biggest hoax of Christendom.

To be saved you must act right not just talk about it or believe it.

That's why these days you will find Christian spouse snatchers , Christian liars, Christian murderers, Christian child molesters , Christian fraudsters etc, ALL hoping that they will be saved because they are covered with the righteousness of Christ. This is FALSE.

If you Keep doing evil , despite your name tag as a believer, you might be in a danger of eternal rejection.

u can only understand Joseph Prince's teachings if u v deeply studied the epistles of Paul, esp d book of Romans. even Paul was attacked as many are attacking the gospel of grace today. u can't be a Christian who has come under grace and still be an active sinner,it is not possible, grace to live a righteous life flows from Jesus when we rest on His finished works on the cross, when we have the assurance that Christ became a sin for us and through him, not our deed, we are righteous before God. through grace, we are able to fulfill the law even without knowing the law. but grace can be activated with faith...faith in the finished works of Christ.

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folks4luv:

u can only understand Joseph Prince's teachings if u v deeply studied the epistles of Paul, esp d book of Romans. even Paul was attacked as many are attacking the gospel of grace today. u can't be a Christian who has come under grace and still be an active sinner,it is not possible, grace to live a righteous life flows from Jesus when we rest on His finished works on the cross, when we have the assurance that Christ became a sin for us and through him, not our deed, we are righteous before God. through grace, we are able to fulfill the law even without knowing the law. but grace can be activated with faith...faith in the finished works of Christ.

What do all these things mean? How practicable is what you have just written?!

Are you saying that Grace makes us take righteous steps or Grace automatically cleanses regardless of our deeds?

In your reply, have this example in mind. A civil servant is offered a bribe or a kick back, what does a Christian civil servant covered by Grace do?

Femiwilli:
Nigerians avoid this Joseph Prince, he is illuminati





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVuO7czOVT0

tge only time righteousness made front page ....argument has started... the fact that he does his hand like this doesnt make him illuminatic ..God has given us right to use our hand anyway we want before iluminati came....nd stop all this photos we are not children

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The true gospel Jesus came to preach is the gospel of grace. Contrast how harshly Jesus spoke to the Pharisees who kept the law to the sinners who He often encouraged with words of no condemnation. Note, the Pharisees keeping the law was not the crime but their believe that they could be made right by their own self effort having lowered God's law to a standard where they think they could keep it ( The truth is no man can meet God's standard by his own works, and that is why the bible says all our righteousness is like a filthy rag before God). Man righteousness which is obtained by observing the law cannot meet up to God's standard of righteousness. But the good news is that we can access God's very righteousness by believing in the finished work of Christ on the cross.
Notice the woman caught in the act of adultery was told by Jesus that neither does he condemn her before telling her to go and sin nor more. Knowing that you are not condemned (Rm 8:1) by God having accepted Jesus Christ and His finished work on the cross releases the grace to go and sin no more, and even when you stumble that reassuring confidence allows you to come boldly before the throne of grace.

Kay17:


What do all these things mean? How practicable is what you have just written?!

Are you saying that Grace makes us take righteous steps or Grace automatically cleanses regardless of our deeds?

In your reply, have this example in mind. A civil servant is offered a bribe or a kick back, what does a Christian civil servant covered by Grace do?

what I am saying is, just like the law wants us to be righteous, grace too seeks for us to be righteous in heart n act, but d two operates differently. you need to ask urself this, if I need to do all d work, kick myself n all that to be righteous, why should Jesus die? there is a provision for that in the old covenant. in the new order, grace comes not automatically, but it comes when we agree we are a sinner, sinner not cause we do bad things, but cause our nature is sinful, then we believe in the finished work of Christ, then we accept there is no way we can please God on our own, we can never meet his standard, he is too perfect, that's why we need to pray through Jesus every time.
when we believe this, we do not automatically become perfect, we work towards perfection, but even in our imperfect state, we are righteous before God, because we have Jesus as our high priest standing for us.
when we become born again n taste his love, we become a new creation, our spirit is quickened n our conscience lightened. no one who goes through Christ will b comfortable in sin. if such a person is forced into doing wrong, their will be restlessness, lack of peace, not because God is angry at that person but because the person just did something that is against his nature. like a lion barking like dog.
sorry I have talked too much.