asikiye:
My SIL also over stayed. Hers was for almost one year. Her baby had serious health issues so she had a valid reason for staying. She paid all her bills but she has been denied twice this year even after changing location. She had her interview in Lagos, was denied. Switched to Abj, was also denied. I hope you get this sorted out.

No valid reason for overstaying. If you have to overstay, you apply for an extension at least 45 days before your stay expires. Pending the outcome of the approval, you will be able to stay without being a persona non grata. Most times it takes a while to hear back from them, so by the time you get a response you may have already been back home.
As long as you have applied and paid for the extension, this gives you the liberty. Not just sitting down and doing nothing

nefertitiram:


There is common law marriage
There is civil union.

These are big big english for being traditional marriage and cohabitation. Some other countries use De facto relationship. Use those options rather than married or single for now

Thank you @Nefertitiram we learn everyday yeah? Just learnt another one today. But a quick question within the two stated above by you, which holds very strong grounds in terms of strong marital ties?

MomSomyy:


Thank you @Nefertitiram we learn everyday yeah? Just learnt another one today. But a quick question within the two stated above by you, which holds very strong grounds in terms of strong marital ties?

no marriage hold more tie than the other, once the marriage is recognised marriage is marriage under the law, common law is received English law and SOGA so that's not customary law

LadyGuinivere:

Thank U and God bless. U have set out the point I was trying to make out. When people discard logic for sentiments, it beats me. This is a support group but all the same, one that should state the hard facts to help both the person in present trouble, the silent readers and future readers.
@momsomy let me do what I'm trained to do. Bring out the weakness in your application so u can be prepared during the interview. And have honest answersm
1. U said, your only issue will be the change of intent. No it may not be so keep an open mind.
2. Be Prepared to answer why u stayed 6 months on a single entry visa whereas u applied for a conference abi? Did u finally attend the primary reason for that ist visa?
3.And as Leaky said, what happened to your job , who's to say u won't stay for one year now?
4. Assuming but not conceeding that u had no plans to birth the ist time hence u didn't declare it, why didn't u declare it the 2nd time?
I believe it won't even be wise for you to say 'because I wasn't asked'. That would piss off the VO.
5. Be prepared to answer Why you must birth in the usa.
6. Finally, I don't know if u have filled the form. There's a column for 'have u tried to enter the us by fraud or misrepresentation?' It is my opinion that u should state yes and that would give u a chance to plead your case before u go In. Clearly, your intention was childbirth and u said vacation only. So get it out there. This may be hard to do but even if u don't gettit now, u will be making the path easier next time.
Oh finally finally, please don't mention that u need to see a pediatrician.I think The former posters are right. Don't rub it in their face that the first visa was used to get an american baby without their consent.

Hello @LadyGuinivere hope you good. Thank you for your contribution. As regarding your no2) I know the first part of that question might come up why I stayed 6months and what I was doing for that long (that question was asked the last time & I said to birth my baby) And yes I attended it, was after the event I stayed back in the same state and had the child. Seriously stay for one yr? Because of what? God forbid if only u knew my kind of business. Forget that income to go suffer in America say what?

If I am calculating right, you are saying you want to fly at 37 weeks. I don't think this is wise. It is risky.

Varvara:


I'm also planning to deliver in St Francis, but I will fly in the middle of August and DUE on 5th of September

MomSomyy:


Thank you @Nefertitiram we learn everyday yeah? Just learnt another one today. But a quick question within the two stated above by you, which holds very strong grounds in terms of strong marital ties?

Chloe is right . Nigerian customary marriage is not akin to either civil union or common law marriage. Common law marriage has no ceremony but the couple live together for a coupla years and are seen as married. Civil union is not recognized in some countries eg same sex marriages. Like somebody said, others is more appros.
My question however is, why do u want to change your status in the space of one month? Your matter already has k leg now u want them to 'mark you bad' sef before u enter the exam hall.the whoever accessing your form and interview notes may not even give u an opportunity to explain the difference and just chalk it to fraudulent intentions #myopinion

@Chloe Love a Lawyer! It is Legal

So in the search for answers.......see the posts below

LadyGuinivere:
Thanks @LagosNiv and welcome back. U carry puffpuff or bagel return?
On a serious note now, a lot of applicants have been denied recently upon renewal . A friend was told her bill for birthing was too low. I'm worried cos for patients paying cash, there's usually a discount. Is that illegal? To get a bargain and then pay off?
Or is the issue that one applied with details of one hospital and used another? So that I do not make the same mistake as naturally one looks for the cheaper option (not medicaid of course) for better healthcare. I no just fit start stories that touch when I want to renew. Please educate me.

LagosNIV:


There could have been a number of reasons... Impossible to say without knowing a specific case. That being said, it isn't illegal to get a cash discount, but it does raise suspicions when you have applied with the intent of going to one location and then suddenly change it at the last minute. CBP will sometimes turn people around and give them 5 year bans just for showing up in the wrong city...

LadyGuinivere:

Chloe is right . Nigerian customary marriage is not akin to either civil union or common law marriage. Common law marriage has no ceremony but the couple live together for a coupla years and are seen as married. Civil union is not recognized in some countries eg same sex marriages. Like somebody said, others is more appros.
My question however is, why do u want to change your status in the space of one month? Your matter already has k leg now u want them to 'mark you bad' sef before u enter the exam hall.the whoever accessing your form and interview notes may not even give u an opportunity to explain the difference and just chalk it to fraudulent intentions #myopinion

@Chloe Love a Lawyer! It is Legal

Lool, very essential and very legal, basically the type of marriage we practice in Nigeria na Double decker/ deck marriage most people aren't even aware

I don't remember stating that she "just sat down while doing nothing". So infer wisely before judging or commenting. I'm not up for nairaland fights too so if you reply this, i will just ignore you. Nobody made you a god over USA birthing issues so you don't know it all.

nefertitiram:


No valid reason for overstaying. If you have to overstay, you apply for an extension at least 45 days before your stay expires. Pending the outcome of the approval, you will be able to stay without being a persona non grata. Most times it takes a while to hear back from them, so by the time you get a response you may have already been back home.
As long as you have applied and paid for the extension, this gives you the liberty. Not just sitting down and doing nothing

Momsomyy,
Please just re-apply, state your intentions and pray. They may just give you. If not, have your baby in Nigeria and try sometime in the future. It is well with you.

MomSomyy:


Hello @LadyGuinivere hope you good. Thank you for your contribution. As regarding your no2) I know the first part of that question might come up why I stayed 6months and what I was doing for that long (that question was asked the last time & I said to birth my baby) And yes I attended it, was after the event I stayed back in the same state and had the child. Seriously stay for one yr? Because of what? God forbid if only u knew my kind of business. Forget that income to go suffer in America say what?

Hmmmm @ LadyG.

I hope they wont turn me back when I appear and say am going to El Paso, my application had Atlanta although no be childbirth I collect visa for....I bin dey think sha....abeg someone i know just ended up with usd24k bill at Northside after 75% discount o. I cannot stay in ATl and be washing plates to pay medical bills. I always wanted to use that hospital but seriously I don't personally know anyone that has paid less than 18k there, small complications na gbege!

No laugh me too much o.

LadyGuinivere:
So in the search for answers.......see the posts below

happytbaby:
Hmmmm @ LadyG.

I hope they wont turn me back when I appear and say am going to El Paso, my application had Atlanta although no be childbirth I collect visa for....I bin dey think sha....abeg someone i know just ended up with usd24k bill at Northside after 75% discount o. I cannot stay in ATl and be washing plates to pay medical bills. I always wanted to use that hospital but seriously I don't personally know anyone that has paid less than 18k there, small complications na gbege!

No laugh me too much o.

Laugh ke? Hmmm. No be confused all of us dey now with the new new style dem get?

LadyGuinivere:

Chloe is right . Nigerian customary marriage is not akin to either civil union or common law marriage. Common law marriage has no ceremony but the couple live together for a coupla years and are seen as married. Civil union is not recognized in some countries eg same sex marriages. Like somebody said, others is more appros.
My question however is, why do u want to change your status in the space of one month? Your matter already has k leg now u want them to 'mark you bad' sef before u enter the exam hall.the whoever accessing your form and interview notes may not even give u an opportunity to explain the difference and just chalk it to fraudulent intentions #myopinion

@Chloe Love a Lawyer! It is Legal

Exactly but to be honest I feel like this present application should be more about straightening the K and bow Legs and being honest.

Stating her intentions and status as it is. If she becomes successful based on it fine, if she doesn't at leat she'd have told her truth. If next year or in 2018 she gets pregnant again, upon application those details would help her build trust.

Shout to my learned colleagues @chloe7 and I'm guessing you too LadyG

asikiye:
I don't remember stating that she "just sat down while doing nothing". So infer wisely before judging or commenting. I'm not up for nairaland fights too so if you reply this, i will just ignore you. Nobody made you a god over USA birthing issues so you don't know it all.

I guess you took this the wrong way.

No need to get all worked up and defensive. If your SIL had applied for the extension, she would not be in this situation. What I meant by sat there doing nothing is 'not applying for the extension', thinking if she explains about her child's situation, it would be overlooked. But apparently, it wasn't. And your initial post, you were silent on her extension application so it is easy to infer that she did not apply.

It's a learning point, for anyone who comes to this thread searching for a way out of a situation. Even if you think it's irrelevant and ignore it, someone else will find it useful. So please yourself and ignore.

chloe7:
pta to Dubai? I thought these banks used to say they are not selling pta for Dubai travellers very funny people, yes o when I called the contact centre in Feb they gave me one email sibtcbdcltd@stanbicibtc.com to forward the documents to that it's as same as applying at the branch

was surprised myself

@all, pls has anybody collected PTA from first bank before n were u told to bring the hard copy later. I applied since but was told to bring my passport tomoro.

No use me laugh ooo,i actually travelled to FCMB ijebu ode last week Tues, applied der but haven't been called yet. Going to newyork via air France this weekend, any mama going also shud let's hook up in other to gist jare.

Oya @asikiye and @nef, hug urselves n kiss yasef. It's all for the betterment of all of us.

P.S let's remember sugah in prayer, she lost her mum last week. May she rest in perfect peace. Amen.

MomSomyy:


Thank you @Nefertitiram we learn everyday yeah? Just learnt another one today. But a quick question within the two stated above by you, which holds very strong grounds in terms of strong marital ties?

My sister, marriage is marriage o! Even without doing any formal or trad wedding. The fact that you have lived with a man/woman for a number of years, shared bills, shared bed, shared lives and memories, the law accepts it as a de-facto relationship.It is seen as common law marriage.

wikipedia definitions:

Civil Union: A civil union is a legal relationship between two people that provides legal protections to the couple only at the state level. A civil union is not a marriage, though. Civil unions do not provide federal protections, benefits, or responsibilities to couples, and a civil union may not be recognized by all state

Common law marriage: Definition of Common Law Marriage. A common law marriage is one in which the couple, usually a man and woman, lives together for a period of time and holds themselves out to friends, family and the community as "being married," but never go through a formal ceremony or get a marriage license.

De-facto relationship:A de facto relationship is a relationship that two people who are not married or related by family have as a couple living together on a 'genuine domestic basis'. It can exist between 2 people of the opposite sex, or between 2 people of the same sex.

They are all acceptable. In your case, I will go for Common law marriage. Infact, if you check pm news or sun newspaper, this kind of marriage may go through divorce proceedings in a customary court (lawyers, correct me if I am wrong).

favoredgal:


was surprised myself

God is good

nefertitiram:


My sister, marriage is marriage o! Even without doing any formal or trad wedding. The fact that you have lived with a man/woman for a number of years, shared bills, shared bed, shared lives and memories, the law accepts it as a de-facto relationship.It is seen as common law marriage.

wikipedia definitions:

Civil Union: A civil union is a legal relationship between two people that provides legal protections to the couple only at the state level. A civil union is not a marriage, though. Civil unions do not provide federal protections, benefits, or responsibilities to couples, and a civil union may not be recognized by all state

Common law marriage: Definition of Common Law Marriage. A common law marriage is one in which the couple, usually a man and woman, lives together for a period of time and holds themselves out to friends, family and the community as "being married," but never go through a formal ceremony or get a marriage license.

De-facto relationship:A de facto relationship is a relationship that two people who are not married or related by family have as a couple living together on a 'genuine domestic basis'. It can exist between 2 people of the opposite sex, or between 2 people of the same sex.

They are all acceptable. In your case, I will go for Common law marriage. Infact, if you check pm news or sun newspaper, this kind of marriage may go through divorce proceedings in a customary court (lawyers, correct me if I am wrong).

these terms you quoted are right but in Nigeria the marriage that is recognised is what I already stated before, you know different jurisdictions different laws, before a marriage can go into court for divorce it has to have been contracted, infact under legitimacy and legitimation any child born out of the three types of marriage I earlier mentioned is illegitimate and such a child can only be legitimated by the parents getting married legally and not customarily or acceptance by the biological father.
Marriage in Nigeria has to be contracted na by force, you can't be living in the same house and assume to be married or enjoy legal rights, protection and obligations

chloe7:
these terms you quoted are right but in Nigeria the marriage that is recognised is what I already stated before, you know different jurisdictions different laws, before a marriage can go into court for divorce it has to have been contracted, infact under legitimacy and legitimation any child born out of the three types of marriage I earlier mentioned is illegitimate and such a child can only be legitimated by the parents getting married legally and not customarily or acceptance by the biological father.
Marriage in Nigeria has to be contracted na by force, you can't be living in the same house and assume to be married or enjoy legal rights, protection and obligations

GBAM! Court arise!

simababe:
Oya @asikiye and @nef, hug urselves n kiss yasef. It's all for the betterment of all of us.

P.S let's remember sugah in prayer, she lost her mum last week. May she rest in perfect peace. Amen.

What's my own? It is because I wasted my mb and finger power to analyse a situation. Nobody kukuma sent me . God forbid, if any mama has to stay back because of issues, don't apply for extension o! Just sit it out and bank on explaining yourself when it's time for renewal and expect VO to smile and give you a pat on the back.

Since I am not a god in these matters, a simple google search would have helped. For those who have stayed over 1 year in US, please see below:

nefertitiram:


What's my own? It is because I wasted my mb and finger power to analyse a situation. Nobody kukuma sent me . God forbid, if any mama has to stay back because of issues, don't apply for extension o! Just sit it out and bank on explaining yourself when it's time for renewal and expect VO to smile and give you a pat on the back.

Since I am not a god in these matters, a simple google search would have helped. For those who have stayed over 1 year in US, please see below:

I didn't even realise how stiff the penalty for overstaying is. Thanks for this.

TheLeakyTribe:


I didn't even realise how stiff the penalty for overstaying is. Thanks for this.

You welcome

I also didn't realise how lax it may be if you overstay for just a few days or a few weeks .

But I don't think as Nigerian's they will be lenient like that to us if we overstay for a few days, with this renewed fury they are exhibiting recently. Let's not just take our chances.

Congrats on your smooth entry. Please how many weeks + days did you travel on Qatar? Were you able to make use of the stopover hotel at your stopover in Doha? How was the flight experience generally?

Wishing you safe trip to your last stop and a safe delivery.

Thanks.

osat82:
Hello everyone

I just got into Houston today via JKF today,i used Qatar, i want to thank everyone for taking the time to share their experiences,it has really really helped me alot,i got to know about this forum after my visa was denied in January,and all I had to do was read and discovered my mistakes(no proper documentation ie doctors and hospital correspondent,appointment letter, ), i reapplied and my visa was granted in march and shared my interview transcript, and here is my POE story

nefertitiram:



You welcome

I also didn't realise how lax it may be if you overstay for just a few days or a few weeks .

But I don't think as Nigerian's they will be lenient like that to us if we overstay for a few days, with this renewed fury they are exhibiting recently. Let's not just take our chances.

I thought it was the uk that had really stiff penalties for overstayers, America sef no carry last for the matter

:DHappytbaby darling... its me oo...I am still in Lome , I work here...
I changed moniker becos my name entered black book...

happytbaby:

Cherie, are you the same as Chigoziri that was in Lome?

Lady G, Yessooo, Nwanne..Broad day light ike this, they called and revoked it...where i go carry lie put on top my head with 7months preggy...I learnt my lesson the bitter hard way...I am planning of reapplying soon... i pray it goes well

LadyGuinivere:

Was chigoziri's visa cancelled?

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What do you mean scattered? Well those are the bills u can actually pay b4 delivery. And I only paid for the 3 u mentioned, waiting for PD's


Hi, i'm new here. But i need info on jps. Seeing ur post is recent i decided to ask you directly. Im due by october. And im yet to get both hospital and dr correspondence. Dont know if you can assist me wit an e mail address and/or phone no. To contact them with. A dr's contact too. I sent you a pm, just in case u prefer to send it privately.
Thanks a mil. I appreciate

cherie24:
Lady G, Yessooo, Nwanne..Broad day light ike this, they called and revoked it...where i go carry lie put on top my head with 7months preggy...I learnt my lesson the bitter hard way...I am planning of reapplying soon... i pray it goes well

Ohhhh! I remembered you, 2014 yer?

Howdy! How's your LO?

hello mamma good work

Section42(2) of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, 1999 constitution under the heading rights of inheritance, this states that – No citizen of Nigeria shall be subject to any disability or deprivation merely by reason of the circumstances of his or birth.

The above section of the law has abolished illegitimacy in Nigeria. No child can be deemed to be illegitimate. And in cases whereby the father refuses to acknowledge the child for the purposes of inheritance, DNA testing can come to the rescue...

chloe7:
these terms you quoted are right but in Nigeria the marriage that is recognised is what I already stated before, you know different jurisdictions different laws, before a marriage can go into court for divorce it has to have been contracted, infact under legitimacy and legitimation any child born out of the three types of marriage I earlier mentioned is illegitimate and such a child can only be legitimated by the parents getting married legally and not customarily or acceptance by the biological father.
Marriage in Nigeria has to be contracted na by force, you can't be living in the same house and assume to be married or enjoy legal rights, protection and obligations