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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by ilynem(m): 9:14pm On May 19, 2016
Gbola5:



The Unreliable Narrator Point of View.
grin grin
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Tapout(m): 9:24pm On May 19, 2016
jonsnow92:
The sound directors of dese game of thrones are damn good..The last part of episode 4..The Dany part damn..na d soundtrack make Dahrio bow for danereys...
I still dont know y i bliv Benjen Stark(Jon snows uncle) is now a white Walker.. possibly the king of them white walkers self..The look on his face in hardhome was crazy


I swear I'm also having that feeling, the guy can't just disappear like that
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by stonemind(f): 9:25pm On May 19, 2016
jonsnow92:
He meant undefeated in battles not one on one fights..Like Robb stark had all the promise and gave us hope only to gey stabbed by Roose Bolton in a Wedding.. Kinda stupid death for a young man with promise..Daenerys might just be another Robb Stark..you dig??

Yeap!!!
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Ranchhoddas: 9:25pm On May 19, 2016
ilynem:

For those that have read the books (I am still in the second one because school work won't let me finish), we know far more than us show only watchers. I have finished the first book and Ned confessed Arthur dayne was the best he ever saw. But we should note that all these are personal opinions of the characters. Take someone like Dany for instance, if you ask her, she would say khal drogo was the best figher she ever saw. Like I said, personal view. So we can't really judge from the books. But we might be able to judge from the show. So we have a few contenders. Or let me put it this way. If you demanded a trail by combat, who will you pick to be your champion? Note, Robert is not yet a fat drunk and Jamie still has two hands.
I get your point of subjectivity but you should take note of the calibre of people talking.Ned, Jaime and even Ser Barristan are excellent fighters in their own right so their opinions on swordsmanship should be taken seriously.Remember the tower of joy scene when the three-eyed raven was showing the battle between Ned and Arthur to Bran, he told Bran that Arthur Dayne was FAR better than his father.The three-eyed raven apparently sees and knows everything so he should be right.I dare to say anyone who was FAR better than Ned Stark would be better than Drogo unless you want to also claim that Drogo was far better than Ned.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by stonemind(f): 9:28pm On May 19, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
I get your point of subjectivity but you should take note of the calibre of people talking.Ned, Jaime and even Ser Barristan are excellent fighters in their own right so their opinions on swordsmanship should be taken seriously.Remember the tower of joy scene when the three-eyed raven was showing the battle between Ned and Arthur to Bran, he told Bran that Arthur Dayne was FAR better than his father.The three-eyed raven apparently sees and knows everything so he should be right.I dare to say anyone who was FAR better than Ned Stark would be better than Drogo unless you want to also claim that Drogo was far better than Ned.

Interesting theory
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Ranchhoddas: 9:28pm On May 19, 2016
stonemind:




I don't understand. What do you mean by UNDEFEATED rob stark?
He meant that Robb did not lose any battle until the Red Wedding.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by stonemind(f): 9:30pm On May 19, 2016
I keep having this feeling that SANSA or one of the STARKS is going to be killed soon
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by stonemind(f): 9:32pm On May 19, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
He meant that Robb did not lose any battle until the Red Wedding.

Who do you think is better between Robb Stark And Jon Snow?
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by jonsnow92: 9:32pm On May 19, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
I get your point of subjectivity but you should take note of the calibre of people talking.Ned, Jaime and even Ser Barristan are excellent fighters in their own right so their opinions on swordsmanship should be taken seriously.Remember the tower of joy scene when the three-eyed raven was showing the battle between Ned and Arthur to Bran, he told Bran that Arthur Dayne was FAR better than his father.The three-eyed raven apparently sees and knows everything so he should be right.I dare to say anyone who was FAR better than Ned Stark would be better than Drogo unless you want to also claim that Drogo was far better than Ned.
It still depends..The scene was just to show that Arthur Dwayne was better than Ned that was y he was outnumbered 5 to 1 and still killed dem all and almost killed Ned..Yes Ned is also overated but i still belive Drogo on his day taking on Arthur Dwayne would be a better spectacle than the Ned stark disapointing swordsmanship

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by jonsnow92: 9:34pm On May 19, 2016
stonemind:
I keep having this feeling that SANSA or one of the STARKS is going to be killed soon
Wrong!!!!!!..No Stark is dieing again abeg
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by jonsnow92: 9:35pm On May 19, 2016
stonemind:


Who do you think is better between Robb Stark And Jon Snow?
You dey price bread again..Who else??.. Me ofcourse
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by jonsnow92: 9:36pm On May 19, 2016
stonemind:


Who do you think is better between Robb Stark And Jon Snow?
You dey price bread again..Who else??.. Me ofcourse...We hardly or never saw Robb fight all season long
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by stonemind(f): 9:40pm On May 19, 2016
jonsnow92:
You dey price bread again..Who else??.. Me ofcourse...We hardly or never saw Robb fight all season long


Exactly and I wonder why
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Akanniade(m): 9:45pm On May 19, 2016
ilynem:

Syrio Forel took on lannister soldiers and not members of the kings guard. The only member of the kings guard present was Merilyn trant. And trant killed him according to arya's testimony to the hound. And judging from the hound's reaction, even a stable boy with a stick will beat five Merilyn trants. So Syrio doesn't really count for me
You missed out the wooden sword that took down 5 lannister guard, until it broke against Meryn Trant. Arthur Dayne took same number down with 2 swords and full body armour. How is that a fair comparison?
The emphasis is on sword skill. He had no sword against Meryn.
Besides Syrio was the first sword of Bravos.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by stonemind(f): 9:49pm On May 19, 2016
jonsnow92:
Wrong!!!!!!..No Stark is dieing again abeg

This just got me lol.. I smell team stark
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by ilynem(m): 10:00pm On May 19, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
I get your point of subjectivity but you should take note of the calibre of people talking.Ned, Jaime and even Ser Barristan are excellent fighters in their own right so their opinions on swordsmanship should be taken seriously.Remember the tower of joy scene when the three-eyed raven was showing the battle between Ned and Arthur to Bran, he told Bran that Arthur Dayne was FAR better than his father.The three-eyed raven apparently sees and knows everything so he should be right.I dare to say anyone who was FAR better than Ned Stark would be better than Drogo unless you want to also claim that Drogo was far better than Ned.
I don't know if you have read the books, but in the books Ned was an average swords man. The show made him better. That fight in season one he had with Jamie, if that was in the books, he wouldn't last five seconds against Jamie. So the first question is, are we judging from the books or the show? If it's from the books, you can't call great fighters and call Ned. Ned's late brother Brandon was the good swordsman in the family. But if we are going with show, Ned was OK. But there are still better fighters. I can call ten people from the show that would floor Ned. So yes. Drogo was a far better figure than Ned

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by jonsnow92: 10:05pm On May 19, 2016
stonemind:


This just got me lol.. I smell team stark
lol..you hav to pity that family now..
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by ilynem(m): 10:05pm On May 19, 2016
Akanniade:

You missed out the wooden sword that took down 5 lannister guard, until it broke against Meryn Trant. Arthur Dayne took same number down with 2 swords and full body armour. How is that a fair comparison?
The emphasis is on sword skill. He had no sword against Meryn.
Besides Syrio was the first sword of Bravos.
Don't get me wrong. Syrio was great or Ned wouldn't pay him to teach arya. But if you were going against members of the kings guard, it is expected you go with your best men. So it is safe to say, those men where Ned's best. Syrio was great (even though he was stupid. You took down five men with a wooden sword, pick up and a real sword and fight!). But being killed by trant disqualifies him albeit with a wooden sword.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Gbola5(m): 10:16pm On May 19, 2016
ilynem:

I don't know if you have read the books, but in the books Ned was an average swords man. The show made him better. That fight in season one he had with Jamie, if that was in the books, he wouldn't last five seconds against Jamie. So the first question is, are we judging from the books or the show? If it's from the books, you can't call great fighters and call Ned. Ned's late brother Brandon was the good swordsman in the family. But if we are going with show, Ned was OK. But there are still better fighters. I can call ten people from the show that would floor Ned. So yes. Drogo was a far better figure than Ned

Well said .

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Ranchhoddas: 10:19pm On May 19, 2016
stonemind:


Who do you think is better between Robb Stark And Jon Snow?
Jon Snow said it himself when he got word of Robb's death; ''he was better than me at riding,fighting and with the girls...'' he was talking to Samwell Tarly.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Gbola5(m): 10:25pm On May 19, 2016
stonemind:


Who do you think is better between Robb Stark And Jon Snow?

Jon says that he's a better swordsman but Robb is a better lance. Whether you choose to believe him or not.


He was of an age with Robb, but
they did not look alike. Jon was
slender where Robb was
muscular, dark where Robb was
fair, graceful and quick where
his half brother was strong and
fast.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Ranchhoddas: 10:36pm On May 19, 2016
jonsnow92:
You dey price bread again..Who else??.. Me ofcourse
Sorry but it was Robb.Jon said it himself.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Ranchhoddas: 10:38pm On May 19, 2016
jonsnow92:
It still depends..The scene was just to show that Arthur Dwayne was better than Ned that was y he was outnumbered 5 to 1 and still killed dem all and almost killed Ned..Yes Ned is also overated but i still belive Drogo on his day taking on Arthur Dwayne would be a better spectacle than the Ned stark disapointing swordsmanship
how exactly is Ned overrated?
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by jonsnow92: 10:41pm On May 19, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
Sorry but it was Robb.Jon said it himself.
That Jon said it doesnt mean hes better..Jon got better at castle black..He fought and we saw he was good..We never saw Robb at all..Infact ask lionel messi till tomorrow, he doesnt believe he's better than all they say he is better than
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by jonsnow92: 10:42pm On May 19, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
how exactly is Ned overrated?
With all Neds accolades and all..i expected him to be very good when it cums to fighting.. 2ce I've seen him fight,2ce hes been floored..
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by jonsnow92: 10:50pm On May 19, 2016
I just hope G.o.t don't eventually fall our hands in the end.
1) Y bring Jon snow back..everyone predicted the red woman would bring him back and she did..What gets many of us glued to G.o.t is d unpredictable nature and their ability to make our guesses go wrong..You might say Jon has a bigger role to play.if yes then y kill him in d first place
2)The mumu attitude of the khals in the danys episode is somehow..Yes they wanted to show Dany as been strong willed and all but yet not even one khal could think of killing her,instead they just ran around like fools
3) Jon saw Hardhome and he knows that is the rral war yet hes concerned about fighting Ramsay..Yes anyone would want to rescue his brother in that situation but whats in explaining to everyother person what he saw at hardhome..
many more questions and many more fears that in the end i just pray and hope i dont get disappointed
Abeg make them sha Leave Tyrion for me abeg
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Ranchhoddas: 10:52pm On May 19, 2016
ilynem:

I don't know if you have read the books, but in the books Ned was an average swords man. The show made him better. That fight in season one he had with Jamie, if that was in the books, he wouldn't last five seconds against Jamie. So the first question is, are we judging from the books or the show? If it's from the books, you can't call great fighters and call Ned. Ned's late brother Brandon was the good swordsman in the family. But if we are going with show, Ned was OK. But there are still better fighters. I can call ten people from the show that would floor Ned. So yes. Drogo was a far better figure than Ned
How did the show make him better? Ned Stark fought side by side with Robert Baratheon during Robert's Rebellion.During the Greyjoy Rebellion, Robert, Stannis and Ned still still led their forces to quell the insurrection.We know that Robert loved to be at the vanguard in a battle,so if Ned fought side by side with Robert, we can infer that Ned was also in the thick of things.Ned was battle-tested and you do him disservice with this comment of yours.Khal Drogo might have been better than him but definitely not Arthur Dayne better.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Ranchhoddas: 10:55pm On May 19, 2016
jonsnow92:
That Jon said it doesnt mean hes better..Jon got better at castle black..He fought and we saw he was good..We never saw Robb at all..Infact ask lionel messi till tomorrow, he doesnt believe he's better than all they say he is better than
Surely you jest.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by timothyuche1(m): 11:23pm On May 19, 2016
When Ramsey 's men were after sansa and Greyjoy, they had with them dogs but later when fight started, the dogs suddenly disappear. Did anyone noticed that?

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by oyetpel(m): 1:25am On May 20, 2016
timothyuche1:
When Ramsey 's men were after sansa and Greyjoy, they had with them dogs but later when fight started, the dogs suddenly disappear. Did anyone noticed that?
I noticed, where did the hounds go?
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by nani667: 1:36am On May 20, 2016
UjSizzle:

I asked the same question o! grin Whether the dragon blood extends to her hair kwa.
So I concluded that the wig is too expensive to burn undecided

Word...! Legit expensive Silver wig reinforced with fire retardant Teflonium Alloy

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by ilynem(m): 2:51am On May 20, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
How did the show make him better? Ned Stark fought side by side with Robert Baratheon during Robert's Rebellion.During the Greyjoy Rebellion, Robert, Stannis and Ned still still led their forces to quell the insurrection.We know that Robert loved to be at the vanguard in a battle,so if Ned fought side by side with Robert, we can infer that Ned was also in the thick of things.Ned was battle-tested and you do him disservice with this comment of yours.Khal Drogo might have been better than him but definitely not Arthur Dayne better.
Fighting in a battle doesn't make you necessarily a very good swordsman. Ned was a brilliant battle commander and was Robb. Robb won all his battles but that doesn't mean you would call him one of the best fighters in Westerous because he was not. And there was nowhere in the books was it suggested that Ned was in the vanguard. I might be wrong though.

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