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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by ilynem(m): 2:59am On May 20, 2016
jonsnow92:
I just hope G.o.t don't eventually fall our hands in the end.
1) Y bring Jon snow back..everyone predicted the red woman would bring him back and she did..What gets many of us glued to G.o.t is d unpredictable nature and their ability to make our guesses go wrong..You might say Jon has a bigger role to play.if yes then y kill him in d first place
2)The mumu attitude of the khals in the danys episode is somehow..Yes they wanted to show Dany as been strong willed and all but yet not even one khal could think of killing her,instead they just ran around like fools
3) Jon saw Hardhome and he knows that is the rral war yet hes concerned about fighting Ramsay..Yes anyone would want to rescue his brother in that situation but whats in explaining to everyother person what he saw at hardhome..
many more questions and many more fears that in the end i just pray and hope i dont get disappointed
Abeg make them sha Leave Tyrion for me abeg
1. Jon had to die to be free of his vows. The vow is till death and he has died. That's why he had to die. Now he is free to leave the watch. Just because we all predicted the red woman would bring him back (how many of you predicted it by the way?) doesn't mean the writers should change their story.
2. Those Khals probably though Dany would burn to death too. So their first instincts was to escape and let the crazy suicidal chick die in her own.
3. Jon doesn't want to find Ramsey. Sansa wants him to. By the way, what is he going to do when the white walkers come? He needs an army and at the moment, Ramsey has his home and rules his people and his army. So he really needs to get Ramsey out of the way first. Regards

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by gj22(m): 5:56am On May 20, 2016
UjSizzle:

Well said. The only boobs we're interested in are Mel's and the Sand Snake's cheesy

1000 year old Mel b00bs? grin

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by gj22(m): 6:01am On May 20, 2016
Gbola5:


Ned is average. He's not really that good. Jaime(before he lost his hand), Barristan, Loras, Arthur would beat Ned anyday. He's more of a commander.

He was th last man standing when faced Arthur Dayne. I wouldn't really say average but, I get your point.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by gj22(m): 6:02am On May 20, 2016
stonemind:
I keep having this feeling that SANSA or one of the STARKS is going to be killed soon

Rikkon? There's also a theory that that isn't actually Rikkon. The umbers are up to no good
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by gj22(m): 6:07am On May 20, 2016
ilynem:

I don't know if you have read the books, but in the books Ned was an average swords man. The show made him better. That fight in season one he had with Jamie, if that was in the books, he wouldn't last five seconds against Jamie. So the first question is, are we judging from the books or the show? If it's from the books, you can't call great fighters and call Ned. Ned's late brother Brandon was the good swordsman in the family. But if we are going with show, Ned was OK. But there are still better fighters. I can call ten people from the show that would floor Ned. So yes. Drogo was a far better figure than Ned

This thread is a show only thread. The show comes first but you can back it up with book knowledge. When the show and the book contradicts, then the show is the law.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by gj22(m): 6:11am On May 20, 2016
Gbola5:


Jon says that he's a better swordsman but Robb is a better lance. Whether you choose to believe him or not.


He was of an age with Robb, but
they did not look alike. Jon was
slender where Robb was
muscular, dark where Robb was
fair, graceful and quick where
his half brother was strong and
fast.

This is wrong. In the show, Jon clearly says Rob was better. I know it's easier to pull book quotes from google but at least, respect the people in the thread and stop trying to confuse us.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by gj22(m): 6:12am On May 20, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
how exactly is Ned overrated?

He got a boost of reputation when he defeated Arthur Dayne but we now know the full story.

I won't say he is average, maybe a lil above it
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by gj22(m): 6:17am On May 20, 2016
jonsnow92:
I just hope G.o.t don't eventually fall our hands in the end.
1) Y bring Jon snow back..everyone predicted the red woman would bring him back and she did..[b]What gets many of us glued to G.o.t is d unpredictable nature and their ability to make our guesses go wrong..[/b]You might say Jon has a bigger role to play.if yes then y kill him in d first place
2)The mumu attitude of the khals in the danys episode is somehow..Yes they wanted to show Dany as been strong willed and all but yet not even one khal could think of killing her,instead they just ran around like fools
3) Jon saw Hardhome and he knows that is the rral war yet hes concerned about fighting Ramsay..Yes anyone would want to rescue his brother in that situation but whats in explaining to everyother person what he saw at hardhome..
many more questions and many more fears that in the end i just pray and hope i dont get disappointed
Abeg make them sha Leave Tyrion for me abeg

Maybe in the first few seasons but this is season 6 for Christmas sake.

There comes a point when unpredictability become predictable.

The unpredictability came from the fact that we were still learning about the GOT universe. But now that we know it, it can't remain unpredictable.

If you are in season 6 of a show and you are still expecting unpredictability (to an extent), then I think you haven't seen too many TV shows.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by gj22(m): 6:19am On May 20, 2016
timothyuche1:
When Ramsey 's men were after sansa and Greyjoy, they had with them dogs but later when fight started, the dogs suddenly disappear. Did anyone noticed that?

They Ran away
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by gj22(m): 6:20am On May 20, 2016
oyetpel:

I noticed, where did the hounds go?

They weren't attack dogs. They are just blood hounds (for tracking), the ran away. What did you expect them to do, pick up a sword and start fighting Brienne of fooking tarth?

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by adexsimply(m): 6:41am On May 20, 2016
UjSizzle:

Well said. The only boobs we're interested in are Mel's and the Sand Snake's cheesy
lipsrsealed
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Gbola5(m): 7:15am On May 20, 2016
gj22:


This is wrong. In the show, Jon clearly says Rob was better. I know it's easier to pull book quotes from google but at least, respect the people in the thread and stop trying to confuse us.

They're not from google though. Jon thinks he's better actually. And i stated to choose which one of them you want to as Jon may have been an unreliable narrator at that.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Gbola5(m): 7:33am On May 20, 2016
ilynem:

And there was nowhere in the books was it suggested that Ned was in the vanguard. I might be wrong though.

"Know the men who follow you," she heard him
tell Robb once, "and let them know you. Don't
ask your men to die for a stranger." Ned always led in the vanguard, at King's Landing, Pyke, and the Stoney Sept.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Gbola5(m): 7:39am On May 20, 2016
jonsnow92:

3) Jon saw Hardhome and he knows that is the rral war yet hes concerned about fighting Ramsay..Yes anyone would want to rescue his brother in that situation but whats in explaining to everyother person what he saw at hardhome..
many more questions and many more fears that in the end i just pray and hope i dont get disappointed
Abeg make them sha Leave Tyrion for me abeg

It felt like if not for Sansa arriving at Castle Black, then Jon wouldn't have anything else doing. The plot moved Jon.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Gbola5(m): 7:48am On May 20, 2016
ilynem:

1. Jon had to die to be free of his vows. The vow is till death and he has died. That's why he had to die. Now he is free to leave the watch.

There are no loopholes. Jon is breaking his vow by leaving the Night's Watch. Who would believe him South of the Wall ? The vow says, " It shall not end until my death.", but he's alive, it's like a patient on CPR. The vow also says, " I shall live and die at my post." Live and Die. It also says, " I pledge my life and honor to the Night's Watch, for this night and all the nights to come." All the nights to come. The episode was Oathbreaker afterall.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Ranchhoddas: 7:55am On May 20, 2016
ilynem:

Fighting in a battle doesn't make you necessarily a very good swordsman. Ned was a brilliant battle commander and was Robb. Robb won all his battles but that doesn't mean you would call him one of the best fighters in Westerous because he was not. And there was nowhere in the books was it suggested that Ned was in the vanguard. I might be wrong though.
He fought side by side with Robert who loved to be in the thick of things, thus the inference.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Ranchhoddas: 8:04am On May 20, 2016
gj22:


Rikkon? There's also a theory that that isn't actually Rikkon. The umbers are up to no good
That's definitely Rickon.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by gj22(m): 8:09am On May 20, 2016
Gbola5:


They're not from google though. Jon thinks he's better actually. And i stated to choose which one of them you want to as Jon may have been an unreliable narrator at that.

May being the keyword. Unless we have a reason to believe otherwise, then we give him the benefit of doubt
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by gj22(m): 8:11am On May 20, 2016
Gbola5:


It felt like if not for Sansa arriving at Castle Black, then Jon wouldn't have anything else doing. The plot moved Jon.

Yes. What I got from it is that he was fed up with all the fighting and betrayal. Death will do that to anyone
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by ilynem(m): 8:15am On May 20, 2016
Gbola5:


There are no loopholes. Jon is breaking his vow by leaving the Night's Watch. Who would believe him South of the Wall ? The vow says, " It shall not end until my death.", but he's alive, it's like a patient on CPR. The vow also says, " I shall live and die at my post." Live and Die. It also says, " I pledge my life and honor to the Night's Watch, for this night and all the nights to come." All the nights to come. The episode was Oathbreaker afterall.
I still believe that is a loophole in the vow. After all Sam found a loophole meaning men of the night's watch can have sex. He died. So hid watch has ended. It doesn't matter who believes him south of the wall. Whenever a man of the watch dies, they say 'and now his watch has ended'. Coming back to life isn't particularly a common thing at the wall so maybe they need a new law for those coming back to life grin. Seriously though, I don't think he is breaking any vows. And death means he can live.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by gj22(m): 8:16am On May 20, 2016
Gbola5:


There are no loopholes. Jon is breaking his vow by leaving the Night's Watch. Who would believe him South of the Wall ? The vow says, " It shall not end until my death.", but he's alive, it's like a patient on CPR. The vow also says, " I shall live and die at my post." Live and Die. It also says, " I pledge my life and honor to the Night's Watch, for this night and all the nights to come." All the nights to come. The episode was Oathbreaker afterall.

That's one way of seeing it.

"It shall not end until my death".. this is undeniable because he died. Literally.

"I pledge my life and honor to the Night's watch".. the life he pledged to the Night's Watch has ended.

"Oathbreaker".....I haven't really thought about this but you might have a point. I can't wait to see where the directors go with this.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by gj22(m): 8:18am On May 20, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
That's definitely Rickon.

It is most likely him but it's not 100%. If you think it is, I will like to hear why.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by ilynem(m): 8:19am On May 20, 2016
Gbola5:


"Know the men who follow you," she heard him
tell Robb once, "and let them know you. Don't
ask your men to die for a stranger." Ned always led in the vanguard, at King's Landing, Pyke, and the Stoney Sept.
And so did Robb I assume. But that doesn't mean Robb was a great fighter. I maintain my stance that in the books, Ned was average, judging from what I read in books once. And that quote doesn't necessarily mean he fought at the vanguard. It just meant his bannermen where his friends.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by datigbogirl: 8:21am On May 20, 2016
jonsnow92:
It still depends..The scene was just to show that Arthur Dwayne was better than Ned that was y he was outnumbered 5 to 1 and still killed dem all and almost killed Ned..Yes Ned is also overated but i still belive Drogo on his day taking on Arthur Dwayne would be a better spectacle than the Ned stark disapointing swordsmanship

Honestly Ned is an average fighter.... He's not that exceptional but he's brave and not afraid to die thus he's a good soldier not an excellent fighter
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by ilynem(m): 8:23am On May 20, 2016
gj22:


This thread is a show only thread. The show comes first but you can back it up with book knowledge. When the show and the book contradicts, then the show is the law.
Noted Ser. So going by the show, my top ten would be:
1. Robert at his prime.
2. Authur Dayne.
3. Barristan Selmy.
4. Drogo.
5. Oberyn Martel.
6. Jamie Lannister with both hands
7. The mountain.
8. Brienne
9. Loras Tyrell
10. A tie between the hound, bronn and Dario.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by gj22(m): 8:23am On May 20, 2016
ilynem:

I still believe that is a loophole in the vow. After all Sam found a loophole meaning men of the night's watch can have sex. He died. So hid watch has ended. It doesn't matter who believes him south of the wall. Whenever a man of the watch dies, they say 'and now his watch has ended'. Coming back to life isn't particularly a common thing at the wall so maybe they need a new law for those coming back to life grin. Seriously though, I don't think he is breaking any vows. And death means he can live.

Sam didn't find it. And I don't think it's a loophole. Men of the night's watch have been having sex long before Sam even saw b00bs. Why I don't think the sex bit is a loophole is because the point of not fathering children or having wives is to avoid attachment. Now, sex has nothing to do with that. We know people have sex for leisure. People can have sex without forming attachments
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Ranchhoddas: 8:24am On May 20, 2016
gj22:


It is most likely him but it's not 100%. If you think it is, I will like to hear why.
Osha's presence.It's probably not Shaggydog's head though.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by datigbogirl: 8:27am On May 20, 2016
jonsnow92:
That Jon said it doesnt mean hes better..Jon got better at castle black..He fought and we saw he was good..We never saw Robb at all..Infact ask lionel messi till tomorrow, he doesnt believe he's better than all they say he is better than

Jon Snow that even killed a white walker and a giant wildling... Jon is better dan Robb in my opinion.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by deept(m): 8:27am On May 20, 2016
Too much headache on who is a better fighter. Whoever the director/producer wants to be a better fighter is a better fighter. Sam and snow are the best, they have faced the white Walker and killed one

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by deept(m): 8:27am On May 20, 2016
And are still alive

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by ilynem(m): 8:30am On May 20, 2016
gj22:


Sam didn't find it. And I don't think it's a loophole. Men of the night's watch have been having sex long before Sam even saw b00bs. Why I don't think the sex bit is a loophole is because the point of not fathering children or having wives is to avoid attachment. Now, sex has nothing to do with that. We know people have sex for leisure. People can have sex without forming attachments
I think men of the night's watch believe it wrong for them to have sex. Remember the scene Jon stood before thorne, slynt and aemon? He confessed he slept with ygrite and slynt suggested they behead him for it. Aemon then replied that if they decided to behead men for having sex, then they would have ghosts maning the wall. What does this tell you? They believe the law forbids them to have sex, but they do it anyway and don't effect the punishment. That's why they 'sneak'out to Mols town to have sex with prostitutes.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by maafen: 8:33am On May 20, 2016
If the Targaryens are resistant to heat and fires why does the heat of the molten gold kill Viserys Targaryen ( Daenery's brother in season 1)? Thought the trait runs in their blood.

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