Re: My Experience At Church Service In Germany by lereinter(m): 9:48pm On May 22, 2016 |
What do u expect
Nigeria can never be Germany 1 Like |
Re: My Experience At Church Service In Germany by Youngzedd(m): 10:00pm On May 22, 2016 |
Schwartz: No multiple offerings: the offering basket is usually close to the exit door. In the three churches in three different cities I attendend I have never heard a call for offering. At the end of the service as you exit you may choose to drop an offering, any amount of your choice.
No special seat for anyone: No special seat or special recognition for any titled person or senior politician etc. Nobody cares if you got money or not. No one is treated differently by the pastor or any member. Persons called to take the mic few times are people who are involved in missionary works. To intimate the congregation on efforts so far. Some people here just live to do missionary work alone. Its amazing.
Every one is friendly: Its kind of intimidating being the only black around. The members want to know your name, what you do, where you are from and what's happening with you. Everyone introduces themselves with a smile and a handshake. They make you feel at home, like a brother. I remember when we were told to wait for Mexican food because the Mexicans in the church were celebrating their anniversary. After taking food, I sat at a corner to eat. Lo and behold everyone was calling me to come seat with them and eat. It felt nice ![smiley](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/smiley.png) Warri! Warri!! Oboy see level. The whites fully understands what been a Christian is. Another church in Nigeria that does similar is Family Worship Centre, Abuja (FWC). 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: My Experience At Church Service In Germany by Adortem: 10:12pm On May 22, 2016 |
You must speak German language well do you? Du spache Detsche? Schwartz: No multiple offerings: the offering basket is usually close to the exit door. In the three churches in three different cities I attendend I have never heard a call for offering. At the end of the service as you exit you may choose to drop an offering, any amount of your choice.
No special seat for anyone: No special seat or special recognition for any titled person or senior politician etc. Nobody cares if you got money or not. No one is treated differently by the pastor or any member. Persons called to take the mic few times are people who are involved in missionary works. To intimate the congregation on efforts so far. Some people here just live to do missionary work alone. Its amazing.
Every one is friendly: Its kind of intimidating being the only black around. The members want to know your name, what you do, where you are from and what's happening with you. Everyone introduces themselves with a smile and a handshake. They make you feel at home, like a brother. I remember when we were told to wait for Mexican food because the Mexicans in the church were celebrating their anniversary. After taking food, I sat at a corner to eat. Lo and behold everyone was calling me to come seat with them and eat. It felt nice ![smiley](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/smiley.png) |
Re: My Experience At Church Service In Germany by MarieSucre(f): 10:22pm On May 22, 2016 |
toyinid78: guys. I need ur help I want my. Church to. Grow. Its foursquare in. Iyana ipaja. I did a. Lot yet we never grow,I even. Made a. Movie. Under foursquare to make d church grow So other people should leave their church to your church?? lolz |
Re: My Experience At Church Service In Germany by nkemjacob2(m): 10:28pm On May 22, 2016 |
Church is about simplicity come and worship God wit ur whole heart, those doing fashion in church are comin for sometin else. D idea of church putting speaker outside is uncalled for. One tin dat kills d african church is pride and position. |
Re: My Experience At Church Service In Germany by WHIZKIDEFE(m): 10:42pm On May 22, 2016 |
Eke40seven: This is similar to my experience in an English speaking church in Europe too. The members are from predominantly English speaking countries too; Americans, New Zealanders, Australia, South Africans (whites), Great Britain and the likes. What astounds me most is that, the church is located in a veeerrry well-to-do community, in Bavaria. However, you will not find anyone putting on expensive 'agbada' and the latest designs to intimidate, neither do they come along as proud or haughty. One grey haired man walked up to me and said "Hi! I am Joe!". In my mind, I was like, back in Nigeria, I will be crucified for not hitting my head on the floor in full prostration to magnify and call him chief elder prof something something and these guys live in a wealthy community! All top shots in one thing and well travelled but in their simplicity, they will sit humbly and wanna talk about everything with you! In Naija church, I know how many 'head bowings" and 'sir' or 'ma' I will have to answer for each words uttered and the opportunity to talk to the rich, a privilege. Offering nko? They never mentioned. Back in Naija, I would have been forced to part with whatever you have in the name of seeds. You will think our pastors studied agric science or farming with the breeds and species of problems mentioned and solutions each seed portrays. We have reduced our churches to fund raising business enterprises and have lost focus of the main reasons why the churches were set up. The pastor introduced himself in his name, had a good handshake, he would also involve himself in services too, everyone gets along. I was awed. We all need to go back to the basics mehn!! So funny, but true. The relationship btw pastor and seed part got me Laughing.. In addition to that, if you want to know the latest fashion trend, visit Naija churches like.... ( i won't mention names o). These days one can barely differentiate a church from a fashion parade. I know some people who won't go to church if they don't buy new pairs of (clothes n shoes), i have been to a church where a pastor was urging it's members to be like a corrupt politician just because the politician( pays fat tithes n offerings in big envelops), the pastor reserves seat for these set of people cos they see them as(assets). I have been in a church where a pastor who doesn't know how his members get their daily bread, stand in the alter and digraced those who were unable to pay their(numerous) dues. What about politics going on in churches today, i guess you've read about CAN elections and godfatherism, so much atrocities in the house of God, pastors taking advantage of gullible members, make i end here jare. Only God can help/save us. All is well. 3 Likes |
Re: My Experience At Church Service In Germany by Princecharmin(m): 11:24pm On May 22, 2016 |
augster: Na only nigeria churches dey make noise and congregation must contribute money cause pastor wan buy new car I cn testify to this ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) During send forth ![cheesy](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cheesy.png) |
Re: My Experience At Church Service In Germany by Aarenasbaba(m): 11:29pm On May 22, 2016 |
[quote author=thesicilian post=45860658]1. why are u moving from church to church?
2. as for the loudspeaker issue, the reason we use them here is that our congregations are usually very large sometimes running into thousands. Don't for forgot the largest church in the world which is over 50,000 capacity in a single auditorium is in Nigeria, how do you address such a crowd without a public address system? Thought I must confess though, there are a few small churches who have no business with loudspeakers but use them anyway...
get it right, d op didn't say d congregation are not much,he stressed about polluting the air by drumming... why can't we make d wall sound proof? 1 Like |
Re: My Experience At Church Service In Germany by Nobody: 12:13am On May 23, 2016 |
titiakins: Africa need to learn from these
Look at them!
You would think it a fellowship And that will encourage people to come
Not thinking about what to wear or which car to drive in abi o,I attend winners,sometimes I don't feel like going to church if I don't have any nice dress to wear,because I know I will be looked down on by fellow Christian. 1 Like |
Re: My Experience At Church Service In Germany by emekajonny(m): 12:14am On May 23, 2016 |
thesicilian: 1. why are u moving from church to church?
2. as for the loudspeaker issue, the reason we use them here is that our congregations are usually very large sometimes running into thousands. Don't for forgot the largest church in the world which is over 50,000 capacity in a single auditorium is in Nigeria, how do you address such a crowd without a public address system? Thought I must confess though, there are a few small churches who have no business with loudspeakers but use them anyway... I disagree with ur no two. d largest church in d world as u said, is it by no of its congregation world wide? or its auditorium? my bro, a church that has its general overseas Nigerian nd Nigeria as head quarter can't in any way b compare to d ones that has branches scattered all round d world. to d article author, I think u observed well but remember DAT ekuke dog isn't same as German Shepherd..... culture nd environments has role to play at times. don't no if DAT z wat causes buharia right ear deafness.
3. As for the one about pastors and their ego, well i think you're 99.995% right. |
Re: My Experience At Church Service In Germany by standfit5(m): 12:24am On May 23, 2016 |
sapiosexual1:
My brother, I agree with the op on No 2, he is talking about external horn speakers and not internal speakers. Even the internal speakers can open the ears of the deaf. Yet the ministers shout into the mic. Our culture is soo off, we do everything with aggression. I 've had to walk out of some church gatherings after changing seats thrice yet my head was vibrating with the speakers. No one should give me migraine in the name of religion This got me lol even by 12.23am n had to stop to listen if any1 got woken up by my lafta ....choi funny daaah |
Re: My Experience At Church Service In Germany by oglalasioux(m): 12:27am On May 23, 2016 |
Nigerian churches were like that 30 years ago. I remember how we looked up to eating cabin biscuits and groundnuts after Sunday school. And surely someone must have thanksgiving which is not money given to the pastor but food and soft drinks cooked and shared to everyone. 4 Likes |
Re: My Experience At Church Service In Germany by LiLsat(m): 12:34am On May 23, 2016 |
That's why i'm a proud member of God's remainth church "seventh day adventist church" |
Re: My Experience At Church Service In Germany by YOLO1(m): 12:59am On May 23, 2016 |
gypsey: church is just a building just like shopping mall, nite club, gym, class room and hospitals. infact the vicar in my local church smokes a bit of ganja and drinks a shot of wiskey before he starts worship he claims it helps him concentrate on the mass. Abeg which country be that |
Re: My Experience At Church Service In Germany by jesuspikinjp(m): 1:05am On May 23, 2016 |
op, one more thing they don't spend 5 to 7 hours in church like we do in nigeria, everything is brief. no time to waste time 1 Like |
Re: My Experience At Church Service In Germany by Schwartz: 1:17am On May 23, 2016 |
jesuspikinjp: op, one more thing they don't spend 5 to 7 hours in church like we do in nigeria, everything is brief. no time to waste time Yes, service mostly starts and ends in 1 hour and no one comes in late to church. |
Re: My Experience At Church Service In Germany by Schwartz: 1:21am On May 23, 2016 |
Adortem: You must speak German language well do you? Du spache Detsche? Nein, Ich spreche wenig Deutsch, aber ich lerne jetzt Deutsch 1 Like |
Re: My Experience At Church Service In Germany by Schwartz: 1:24am On May 23, 2016 |
dam4wummy:
How was the prayer session, was it like our CAC type? I don't know how CAC prays o. We normally list our individual challenges and pray about it as a Church. Its normal prayer. |
Re: My Experience At Church Service In Germany by Schwartz: 1:26am On May 23, 2016 |
dukeolumde:
Bro which part of Germany are u in? I heard it's a nice place to be. The southern part. Yes, Germany is beautiful and very neat. 1 Like |
Re: My Experience At Church Service In Germany by Schwartz: 1:32am On May 23, 2016 |
kodded:
Deutschland ist ihre dauerhafte Basis ? ![smiley](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/smiley.png) Right now I renew my visa every two years, I don't know what the future holds, I may be permanent or relocate, it depends ![smiley](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/smiley.png) |
Re: My Experience At Church Service In Germany by Meesquared(m): 1:42am On May 23, 2016 |
ichommy: Schwartz
Nizza Bruder, Du fehlst uns auf Deutsch Thread. Wie geht's? wo ist die deutsch Gruppe? |
Re: My Experience At Church Service In Germany by Meesquared(m): 1:45am On May 23, 2016 |
Schwartz:
The southern part. Yes, Germany is beautiful and very neat. i am learning it little here tho. I'll be in Germany by next year. by God's grace. what city are you in? |
Re: My Experience At Church Service In Germany by ottersberger(m): 1:49am On May 23, 2016 |
StoneColdBiceps:
hi, nice write up and experience. i biliv simplicity and personal conviction in d worship of God. but i want to disagree with some of your observation which i'll will not point out becos of time.
you are comparing two unequals. Germany and Nigeria. europe and Africa. Now, lets look at way of life here. its known that in Europe dey enjoy d 3 basic life necessities (i stand to be corrected) food, cloth and shelter, which we dnt have in Nigeria in particular. wen all this tings are in place there wont be room for showmanship/competition. In Nigeria, uneven distribution of weath brings competition. everybody fight to outdoor others, which lead us to rat race.when competition leave u struggle to have d 3 basics you will want to flaunt it, its economic and human nature.
Salvation is personal. personally i know my right from wrong in any gathering i find myself.
Some people have low self esteem, its wen they wear their best (with decorum) dat they can express themselves. others flaunt it because dey got it to outdo others sha.
The whites skin helps them to wear any kind of cloths and they still look ok, unlike blacks had to wear designers to bring out their best expression/look.
Africans live in community while Europeans live in isolation. so its a communal thing to invite members with loud speakers- though shld be minimized.
lastly, dont expect them not to call AK (Police)for you when you walk pass their neighbourhood...even though they share a cup of coffee with you in church.
Oga, the bolded parts of your contribution, are factually incorrect. |
Re: My Experience At Church Service In Germany by lastpage: 2:38am On May 23, 2016 |
Schwartz: Hello All. Here is my experience at Church in Germany. So far I have attended 3 different churches in different cities here and I love it. This are churches by whites. Though there are one or two Naija churches around but personally I love this ones. I saw a lot of differences ![cheesy](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cheesy.png)
No loud speakers outside: The norm has been during service, churches put on loud speakers outside so the neighborhood of the church hears every thing going on inside the church. To me I feel its noise pollution and unfair to neighbours because some times you have in one street alone in Naija over 5 churches blaring away. Here its so quiet outside the church building that if you don't get into the church you don't even notice there are people inside the church holding service.
Noone comes in gaily dressed: This people are so simple that they don't dress any different to church. If you don't have a nice Sunday wear no one cares. Picture attached was service today. Its summer now and people were wearing shorts to church! Also sleevless floral light dresses. There were no suits, no nice hats, no bogus jewelry, no nice shoes, no Italian bags, no one with nice hairdo. Its was just plain clothes, sneakers and sandals to church. You can't even differentiate between the rich and the poor. I remember in Naija when I used to take materials to my tailor to sew the latest dress so i can wear for church service. I remember all the outdoing and show off by members.
The pastor has no hairs around him: The simplicity of the whites is amazing. Even into the work of the ministry they carry it along. The pastor comes into church carrying his bag by himself. Goes round each member to greet you with a smile and a handshake and asks how you're doing. He is just a humble caring friend you can chat with and he prays for you. He reminds you there is a table he has set for coffee, tea or water. There is just nothing special about him. He just carries out the service normally. He has no special name like G.O or daddy etc. I just cant explain the simplicity of the 3 white pastors I met. At the end of the service they stand at the door for a goodbye handshake. In Nigeria, RELIGION is a FRAUD...... and the Religious leaders are the CRIMINALS.Its a fact no one wants to say because everyone is afraid of them. Lastpage! 2 Likes |
Re: My Experience At Church Service In Germany by otokx(m): 2:52am On May 23, 2016 |
I'm sure the service did not extend beyond 2 hours and there was no meeting of this group and that group afterwards. |
Re: My Experience At Church Service In Germany by allhavesinned: 3:39am On May 23, 2016 |
thesicilian: 1. why are u moving from church to church?
2. as for the loudspeaker issue, the reason we use them here is that our congregations are usually very large sometimes running into thousands. Don't for forgot the largest church in the world which is over 50,000 capacity in a single auditorium is in Nigeria, how do you address such a crowd without a public address system? Thought I must confess though, there are a few small churches who have no business with loudspeakers but use them anyway...
3. As for the one about pastors and their ego, well i think you're 99.995% right. Point of Correction and For Your Information Largest megachurches Average weekly attendances are shown in parentheses: Yoido Full Gospel Church, Seoul, South Korea (253,000) Jotabeche Methodist P. Church, Santiago, Chile (150,000) Gereja Bethany Indonesia (Bethany Christian Church Indonesia) "Graha Bethany Nginden", Surabaya, Indonesia (135.000) Calvary Temple, Hyderabad, India (120,000) Deeper Life Bible Church, Lagos, Nigeria (120,000) Elim Church, San Salvador, El Salvador (117,000) Nambu Full Gospel, Seoul, South Korea (110,000) AOG Grace and Truth, Kyeonggi-do, South Korea (105,000) Santuário Nossa Senhora Mãe de Deus - Theotókos, Brazil (100,000) Myungsung Presbyterian Church, Gangdong, Seoul (90,000) Kum Ran Methodist, Seoul, South Korea (80,000) Vision de Futuro, Santa Fe, Argentina (70,000) Ondas del Luz, Buenos Aires, Argentina (70,000) Victory Christian Fellowship, Philippines (110,000) Christ's Commission Fellowship, Philippines (60,000) Young Nak Presbyterian Church, Seoul,South Korea (60,000) Winners Chapel, Ota, Nigeria (50,000) Soong Eui Methodist, Inchon, South Korea (47,000) Lakewood Church, Houston, Texas,USA (45,000) Church of the Highlands, Birmingham, Alabama, USA (40,000) El Lugar de Su Presencia, Bogota, Colombia (32,000) |
Re: My Experience At Church Service In Germany by Nobody: 4:14am On May 23, 2016 |
buharisbae
: Catholic church do use inner loudspeaker buh op u b gay? y u snapping that mans ass?? ![undecided](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/undecided.png) did u read the post or......... jump and pass mode of dressing, people don't dress to kill that young man was wearing shorts just casual. 1 Like |
Re: My Experience At Church Service In Germany by totorimi: 4:37am On May 23, 2016 |
Those countries are rich and their churches are rich also and the people are kind they give happily but here in Naija the economy is poor the people are harsh and so they give under duress so the church must device away to get money out of them. |
Re: My Experience At Church Service In Germany by ichommy(m): 4:49am On May 23, 2016 |
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Re: My Experience At Church Service In Germany by Funjosh(m): 4:50am On May 23, 2016 |
allhavesinned:
Point of Correction and For Your Information
Largest megachurches
Average weekly attendances are shown in parentheses:
Yoido Full Gospel Church, Seoul, South Korea (253,000) Jotabeche Methodist P. Church, Santiago, Chile (150,000) Gereja Bethany Indonesia (Bethany Christian Church Indonesia) "Graha Bethany Nginden", Surabaya, Indonesia (135.000) Calvary Temple, Hyderabad, India (120,000) Deeper Life Bible Church, Lagos, Nigeria (120,000) Elim Church, San Salvador, El Salvador (117,000) Nambu Full Gospel, Seoul, South Korea (110,000) AOG Grace and Truth, Kyeonggi-do, South Korea (105,000) Santuário Nossa Senhora Mãe de Deus - Theotókos, Brazil (100,000) Myungsung Presbyterian Church, Gangdong, Seoul (90,000) Kum Ran Methodist, Seoul, South Korea (80,000) Vision de Futuro, Santa Fe, Argentina (70,000) Ondas del Luz, Buenos Aires, Argentina (70,000) Victory Christian Fellowship, Philippines (110,000) Christ's Commission Fellowship, Philippines (60,000) Young Nak Presbyterian Church, Seoul,South Korea (60,000) Winners Chapel, Ota, Nigeria (50,000) Soong Eui Methodist, Inchon, South Korea (47,000) Lakewood Church, Houston, Texas,USA (45,000) Church of the Highlands, Birmingham, Alabama, USA (40,000) El Lugar de Su Presencia, Bogota, Colombia (32,000) Where do u get this from ![](/faces/huh.png) |
Re: My Experience At Church Service In Germany by ichommy(m): 4:52am On May 23, 2016 |
Holyfield1: ja alles is sehr gut und ich bin gut heute. Verstehest du German wie? I guess your just learning ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) Kudos sha, I speak German. |
Re: My Experience At Church Service In Germany by ichommy(m): 4:54am On May 23, 2016 |
Schwartz:
Gut, danke ![smiley](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/smiley.png)
You are welcome Bruder. |