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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by coded01: 8:10am On May 27, 2016 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 8:42am On May 27, 2016 |
pamcode: Not only that but Emenalo is the one with the power to make signings, unlike what anyone is telling you. Technical Director na Technical Director, never mind some clueless ninja inventing powers for Marina that she does not have. Marina is there to do financial negotiations, not to scout and recommend no phucking players. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 8:44am On May 27, 2016 |
LordEmperoris1: Happy birthday gee. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 10:18am On May 27, 2016 |
HBD Lordemperoris1 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by LordEmperoris1(m): 10:38am On May 27, 2016 |
diggz:thank u brother |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by LordEmperoris1(m): 10:41am On May 27, 2016 |
Ibime:thanx boss |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 1:05pm On May 27, 2016 |
Conte should play 4-4-2 formation next season; iva/new signing-cahil/terry-zouma-azpi; naingolan/matic-fabregas/oscar-willian/cuadrado-hazard/pedro; costa-lukaku/abumeyang |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon: 2:04pm On May 27, 2016 |
Conte is reportedly keen to offload Oscar and damn determined to keep Willian. Eledumare go bless this man. Na the man wey sabi. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lekkie073(m): 2:43pm On May 27, 2016 |
Griffon:willian Don begin cry say he wan go join Jose for old trafford |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon: 3:22pm On May 27, 2016 |
Nihilist: News beat is a special interest area or place where reporters are assigned for the purpose of continuous coverage. If Dailymail decides to assign me to cover every development at Chelsea, I'll get my arse there and dig and dig removing the top soil to reach the one beneath. While at my beat in this case Chelsea, I'll know the right person or group of persons to meet in order to obtain authentic information. Most times, these persons i.e my sources would prefer not to have their names on my report, so I'll simply leave them out of it but still get to report my findings. So a journalist must not necessarily quote people before his report passes as authentic. I know this 'cos i'm a budding journalist. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 3:39pm On May 27, 2016 |
Griffon: The question was "how do you know they are telling the truth?" Afterall, we've seen that these same papers have been guilty of false reporting in the past. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 3:41pm On May 27, 2016 |
Ibime: Very good. So basically Emenalo can recommend a player, but Marina can choose NOT to sign him? Yes or No please |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon: 3:52pm On May 27, 2016 |
timbros: The technical director of course. He recommends the player that must be signed. Marina is just there to negotiate the deal. Wheather we're transferring in or out, Marina is the one vested with the power of financial negotiations. How she goes about negotiating the deals is what I don't know, she is a woman and could use that which lies between her legs to our advantage. The mega bucks we recieved for Luiz, Lukaku, KDB et al are her works |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 3:54pm On May 27, 2016 |
Griffon: I posed this question to Ibime. I will pose it to you. Are you suggesting that Marina can decide that a suggested player is too expensive and decide NOT to sign him? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 4:07pm On May 27, 2016 |
I will honestly not be surprised if these guys duck this very simple question... Because if Emenalo has no say in how much should be paid in transfer fees and wages for a player, then what control does he have over the recruitment process? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon: 4:08pm On May 27, 2016 |
Nihilist: When you have virtually the whole news organisations across the globe writing on a particular subject at the same time, then such report is sure to be factual. The consistency in the report is all you need. Independent, Guardian. Telegraph, Dailymail etc can't be drunk at same time. Most organisations are guided by certain rules, believe me their reporters wouldn't want to cross certain lines hence they choose what to report. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 4:17pm On May 27, 2016 |
Griffon: Each of those papers has been sued for false reporting. Afterall, Many papers falsely reported that LVG had been sacked at christmas, leading to the "Enjoy the wine and mince pie rant" How do you know this is not the case here? I'm not asking why you chose to believe. I'm asking how you know. BTW I would love to hear your opinion on the second question I asked you sir. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 4:25pm On May 27, 2016 |
Nihilist: You no dey tire for this eediocy? You think you are discussing with your fellow double digit IQ niggas asking foolish questions like the above. It seems that before this discussion, you did not know that CEOs do handle financial negotiations, from Ivan Gazidis to Marina to Ed Woodward. You maybe thought you were "educating" us when you stumbled across such information on Chelsea website not knowing you were exposing your childish stupidity like a child who learnt to spell for the first time and couldn't wait to tell every adult about it.. In answer to your question above, if the price is reasonable Marina will not walk away from the negotiating table for any player Emenalo recommends. It is just unfortunate that every time Emenalo recommends a winger, the price is fair to Marina. . . .but every time he recommends a midfielder, the selling club starts asking fir £100m. That is why Emenalo has been unable to strengthen his midfield. 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 4:30pm On May 27, 2016 |
Ibime: The question I asked you was very simple. Does Marina have the power to NOT sign a player that Emenalo recommends based on financial perspective? It's a yes or no question. Let's start with that first. Then you can abuse all you want. When we establish that, we can discuss HOW Marina decides the price is 'fair' |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 4:32pm On May 27, 2016 |
You can imagine this stewpid niggas thought process. It came like a light bulb in his head in the middle of the night: "Oh I've just found out that Marina is involved in financial negotiations" "So I will use it to prove that Marina is the reason why Emenalo has developed a team with a weak spine." SMH |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon: 4:33pm On May 27, 2016 |
Nihilist: Sure she can. Just like in every other business, if the price isn't right, the talk goes cold. But then, that doesn't in anyway put Marina in the position to decide whom we sign, it remains the TD. Marina doesn't know who we need, it is the TD. You cant tell me that Marina's negotiations goes successful each time Emenalo recommends an attacking midfielder but gets to stall each time a CM is recommended, is it? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 4:36pm On May 27, 2016 |
Griffon: Very good. At least you have the balls to put your neck on the line for this. Now how does Marina decide what the right price for a player is? What Criteria does she use in evaluating a players financial value? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 4:39pm On May 27, 2016 |
Ibime: I actually posted this like 4 pages ago.... But why cant you answer the Yes or No question? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon: 4:48pm On May 27, 2016 |
Nihilist: I know those reports are true b'cos Emenalo hasn't sued any of those organisations for defamation. It's a report that has been dragging on for years, which lowers Emenalo in the estimate of the right thinking members of the society and which also discredits him in his office. It's an injury to his reputation. For the fact that he hasn't sued makes it a fact. I believe i've treated this, shall we now focus on Marina? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 4:56pm On May 27, 2016 |
Griffon: LVG did not sue. But the papers were wrong. Now lets proceed to Marina |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon: 4:58pm On May 27, 2016 |
Nihilist: There are many determinants. Form, importance to team, ability, position, age, contract etc |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 5:03pm On May 27, 2016 |
Griffon: Very good. So is it safe to assume that Marina has to evaluate all these criteria you mentioned before deciding to pay for a player? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon: 5:06pm On May 27, 2016 |
Nihilist: LVG didn't sue b'cos those reports were just a hoax and are pardonable in the court of law. Gaffe and defamation are two different 'crimes'. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon: 5:18pm On May 27, 2016 |
Nihilist: Yes it is safe to assume so. Meanwhile, if you must know, the technical director isn't blind to these evaluations. He knows what the team needs remember and his views could still influence Marina's. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 5:22pm On May 27, 2016 |
Griffon: You understand that you've just admitted that Marina's has to independently analyse the suggested players before deciding to sign them? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon: 5:28pm On May 27, 2016 |
Nihilist: Where are you traveling with this? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 5:29pm On May 27, 2016 |
At this point Griffon, your only argument left is that the quality of Emenalo's presented shortlist must be poor. But without knowing the contents of thr shortlist, and with both of us now agreeing that Marina has veto powers over each recommendation, how can we logically blame Emenalo and his 'signings' for the decline of the club? This is the argument I raised several pages ago. |
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