Ibime:


You no dey tire for this eediocy?

You think you are discussing with your fellow double digit IQ niggas asking foolish questions like the above.

It seems that before this discussion, you did not know that CEOs do handle financial negotiations, from Ivan Gazidis to Marina to Ed Woodward.

You maybe thought you were "educating" us when you stumbled across such information on Chelsea website not knowing you were exposing your childish stupidity like a child who learnt to spell for the first time and couldn't wait to tell every adult about it..

In answer to your question above, if the price is reasonable Marina will not walk away from the negotiating table for any player Emenalo recommends.

It is just unfortunate that every time Emenalo recommends a winger, the price is fair to Marina. . . .but every time he recommends a midfielder, the selling club starts asking fir £100m.

That is why Emenalo has been unable to strengthen his midfield.

At this point, I think we would like to hear your opinion on HOW Marina determines a fair price

Nihilist:
At this point Griffon, your only argument left is that the quality of Emenalo's presented shortlist must be poor.

But without knowing the contents of thr shortlist, and with both of us now agreeing that Marina has veto powers over each recommendation, how can we logically blame Emenalo for the decline of the club?

This is the argument I raised several pages ago.

Do I have to keep regurgitating every of my claim?

Marina doesn't give a hoot about what Emenalo recommends, all she has to do is make the deal happen. In events the deal stalls she reports back to the technical director who now profers a viable alternative. She doesn't enjoy any veto power. On the other hand, these alternatives could be anything; splash the cash Marina or let's just look for another talent, just anything.

At the end of the day, the final decision still lies with Emenalo.

But then, don't you think you're digressing with this thinking?

The real questions you have to answer are; why haven't the technical director seen the need to recommend good central midfielders to Marina over the years? Why has he chosen to recommend just attackers? Why has he chosen to create an unbalanced squad?

Griffon:


Do I have to keep regurgitate every of my claim?

Marina doesn't give a hoot about what Emenalo recommends, all she has to do is make the deal happen. In events the deal stalls she reports back to the technical director who now profers a viable alternative. She doesn't enjoy any veto power. On the other hand, these alternatives could be anything; splash the cash Marina or let's just look for another talent, just anything.

At the end of the day, the final decision still lies with Emenalo.

But then, don't you think you're digressing with this thinking?

The real questions you have to answer are; why haven't the technical director seen the need to recommend good central midfielders to Marina over the years? Why has he chosen to recommend just attackers? Why has he chosen to create an unbalanced squad?

Don't contradict yourself.

You have already said that she can choose NOT to sign a player that Emenalo recommends, based on her own evaluation of the player's ability, importance to the team, age etc.

Or have you forgotten?

So how can you now say she has no Veto powers?

Or do you not know what Veto means?

Griffon:




The real questions you have to answer are; why haven't the technical director seen the need to recommend good central midfielders to Marina over the years? Why has he chosen to recommend just attackers? Why has he chosen to create an unbalanced squad?

Good question, but if you said that Marina evaluates players using these criteria:

Griffon:

There are many determinants. Form, importance to team, ability, [size=18pt]position[/size], age, contract etc

Why is Emenalo solely to blame for an imbalanced squad?

Remember your words not mine.

Nihilist:


Don't contradict yourself.

You have already said that she can choose NOT to sign a player that Emenalo recommends, based on her own evaluation of the player's ability, importance to the team, age etc.

Or have you forgotten?

So how can you now say she has no Veto powers?

Or do you not know what Veto means?

You're dancing around the truth.

Marina is concerned about balancing the books whilst Emenalo is concerned about balancing the squad.

What's difficult to comprehend here?

Nihilist:


Good question, but if you said that Marina evaluates players using these criteria:

Why is Emenalo solely to blame for an imbalanced squad?

Remember your words not mine.

The sort of players she evaluates their valuation is the question.

How many CMs have she evaluated for Chelsea in the past 5 years?

How can you be blaming Marina for Emenalo's incompetence.

This is astonishingly absurd!

Griffon:


You're dancing around the truth.

Marina is concerned about balancing the books whilst Emenalo is concerned about balancing the squad.

What's difficult to comprehend here?

Griffon you're my guy and we go way back.

Just take the L and move on.

You cannot in one breadth say that Marina can choose not to sign a player, and then in another breadth say she cannot.


You can't say in one breadth that she has to consider the players, importance to the team and position before cutting a cheque, and then turn around to say it's Emenalo that is interested in balancing the squad

You can see that the main Emenalo hater saw where the convo was going and bailed a long time ago.

Griffon:


The sort of players she evaluates their valuation is the question.

How many CMs have she evaluated for Chelsea in the past 5 years?

How can you be blaming Marina for Emenalo's incompetence.

This is astonishingly absurd!

Wait

Who said Marina evaluates players to sign based on their ability, importance and position?

Was that me?

Or is it backtrack time?

Griffon:


The sort of players she evaluates their valuation is the question.

How many CMs have she evaluated for Chelsea in the past 5 years?

How can you be blaming Marina for Emenalo's incompetence.

This is astonishingly absurd!

The only players we saw signed for the first team were the ones that successfully passed Marina's evaluation.

Do you know how many players she looked at before choosing to sign Fabregas?

Did you see the shortlist that Emenalo presented to Marina?

If you did, cold you please tell us exactly who else was on the shortlist?

This is very interesting
Pop corn time. Lol

Reminds me of Coogar and his disciples that felt that Rooney was the only problem and that simply by removing him from the line up the other crappy United players would suddenly start playing like Messi.
There are no gremlins, no hobgoblins and Big Foot does not exist..... and there is no ONE person in a huge club like this who is responsible for ALL the problems when things go wrong but gets no credit for the good decisions.

Nihilist:



Wait

Who said Marina evaluates players to sign based on their ability, importance and position?

Was that me?

Or is it backtrack time?

These evaluations are geared towards reaching a figure finito.

Due to the current transfer trend in footie and fees continuing to spiral out of control, Chelsea saw the need to have Marina around, not to decide who is good to play for Chelsea but who is good for a particular figure.

Let us assume all Chelsea wanted was a CM. Emenalo ignores that need and moves to recommend Isco an AM for Chelsea. Marina would get a call to come and negotiate.

Amid the negotiation, she'll consider how important Isco is to Madrid i.e squad status. If he's indispensable or not. This determines how much she quotes for the player. She'll consider how old Isco is as this would determine his resell value. She'll consider Isco's position. Attacking midfielders, central and wide areas in the final third of the pitch and forwards are considered premium. Defenders and goalies on the other hand come at decent prices.

She'll consider all these before making an offer or counter-offer to Real Madrid.

She's concerned about the price because she is working with a budget. She doesn't care if Isco is what Chelsea needs on the field of play, she believes Emenalo the technical director knows better. She only cares about the budget.

If at the end of the day Emenalo ends up recommending twenty Iscos and Marina ends up sealing twenty Iscos deals, would you now blame Marina for Chelsea not having Modric and Kroos?

Griffon:


These evaluations are geared towards reaching a figure finito.

Due to the current transfer trend in footie and fees continuing to spiral out of control, Chelsea saw the need to have Marina around, not to decide who is good to play for Chelsea but who is good for a particular figure.

Let us assume Emenalo recommended Isco for Chelsea. Marina would get a call to come and negotiate.

Amid the negotiation, she'll consider how important Isco is to Madrid i.e squad status. If he's indispensable or not. This determines how much she quotes for the player. She'll consider how old Isco is as this would determine his resell value. She'll consider Isco's position. Attacking midfielders, central and wide areas in the final third of the pitch and forwards are considered premium. Defenders and goalies on the other hand come at decent prices.

She'll consider all these before making an offer or counter-offer to Real Madrid.

She's concerned about the price because she is working with a budget. She doesn't care if Isco is what Chelsea needs on the field of play, she believes Emenalo the technical director knows better. She only cares about the budget.

If at the end of the day Emenalo ends up recommending twenty Iscos and Marina ends up sealing twenty Iscos deals, would you now blame Marina for Chelsea not having Modric and Kroos?

The first part of your post is a crude and uninformed representation of how a transfer works

The bit about the forwards being premium and defenders coming it decent prices in contrived BS especially in an era where Mangala reportedly costs the same as Ozil, Luke Shaw reportedly costs around the same as Alexis Sanchez, Hummels reportedly costs more than Fabregas, and Otamendi reportedly costs as much as Lukaku

That alone suggests that you're not entirely sure what you're on about..

In any case that bit is irrelevant, as whatever transfer process is involved in signing a centre-back is the same in signing a striker.

Instead, I will focus on the most important part of your post.

"
If at the end of the day Emenalo ends up recommending twenty Iscos and Marina ends up sealing twenty Iscos deals, would you now blame Marina for Chelsea not having Modric and Kroos?"

Can you prove that Emenalo only recommended twenty Iscos to Marina?

Have YOU seen the shortlist?

Is a copy of the actual shortlist published anywhere?

If yes, then share the contents of said shortlist.

If no, then this is the time to admit that you don't really know what Emenalo gives to Marina to ratify.

Nihilist:


At this point, I think we would like to hear your opinion on HOW Marina determines a fair price

Bros leave this thing, make we clear space for other Chelsea fans to discuss other matters.

Nihilist:


The first part of your post is a crude and uninformed representation of how a transfer works

The bit about the forwards being premium and defenders coming it decent prices in contrived BS especially in an era where Mangala reportedly costs the same as Ozil, Luke Shaw reportedly costs around the same as Alexis Sanchez, Hummels reportedly costs more than Fabregas, and Otamendi reportedly costs as much as Lukaku

That alone suggests that you're not entirely sure what you're on about..

In any case that bit is irrelevant, as whatever transfer process is involved in signing a centre-back is the same in signing a striker.

Instead, I will focus on the most important part of your post.

"
If at the end of the day Emenalo ends up recommending twenty Iscos and Marina ends up sealing twenty Iscos deals, would you now blame Marina for Chelsea not having Modric and Kroos?"

Can you prove that Emenalo only recommended twenty Iscos to Marina?

Have YOU seen the shortlist?

Is a copy of the actual shortlist published anywhere?

If yes, then share the contents of said shortlist.

If no, then this is the time to admit that you don't really know what Emenalo gives to Marina to ratify.

Do you enjoy digressing? All things being equal there's no effing way a defender or goalie can be valued higher than a forward or even an attacking midfielder. A footie neophyte knows this. The David Luiz, Mangala, Hummels, Otamendi etc sort of deals are once in a while sort of deals, they don't happen everyday. Nigga please.

Back to topic.

Emenalo gives Marina what he 'thinks' suits the philosophy he's pursuing - the tiki-taka model. I'm convinced of this fact b'cos in the last 5 years we've been able to ship in a titanic load of attacking midfielders whilst ignoring the need to restore steel in the middle of the park.

I'm convinced of this fact b'cos Marina has shown over the years that she is capable of sealing deals, so negotiating a deal for a CM wouldn't be a problem given Emenalo recommends them.

If you think Emenalo has been recommending CMs and Marina has been faltering with sealing the deals, don't you think Emenalo being the TD would raise alarm over a possible imbalance that is being created by Marina?

TBH It would be quite silly to think that Marina gets to seal the deals of the attacking midfielders that are recommended then falters each time a central midfielder is recommended.

According to the FA, there'll be no more FA Cup Quarter-final replays. Na straight to extra-time then Pk.

This move is to address the issue of fixture congestion and to add a bit of drama to the competition.

For those Chelsea folks who still care about Mourinho. . .There's hope

Ibime:


Bros leave this thing, make we clear space for other Chelsea fans to discuss other matters.

Why are you trying to duck the question though?

How does Marina determine what in your own words a fair price is?

Griffon:


Do you enjoy digressing? All things being equal there's no effing way a defender or goalie can be valued higher than a forward or even an attacking midfielder. A footie neophyte knows this. The David Luiz, Mangala, Hummels, Otamendi etc sort of deals are once in a while sort of deals, they don't happen everyday. Nigga please.

Back to topic.

Emenalo gives Marina what he 'thinks' suits the philosophy he's pursuing - the tiki-taka model. I'm convinced of this fact b'cos in the last 5 years we've been able to ship in a titanic load of attacking midfielders whilst ignoring the need to restore steel in the middle of the park.

I'm convinced of this fact b'cos Marina has shown over the years that she is capable of sealing deals, so negotiating a deal for a CM wouldn't be a problem given Emenalo recommends them.

If you think Emenalo has been recommending CMs and Marina has been faltering with sealing the deals, don't you think Emenalo being the TD would raise alarm over a possible imbalance that is being created by Marina?

TBH It would be quite silly to think that Marina gets to seal the deals of the attacking midfielders that are recommended then falters each time a central midfielder is recommended.

You keep raising points that you cannot actually answer.

1. If Emenalo actually raised an Alarm, how would you Mr Griffon know?

2. Back to the shortlist, you still haven't answered if you've seen Emenalo's shortlist. How do you know who was recommended?

Logically you've already lost the argument. Like I said earlier, Ibime saw where it was going and ran. Someone who has been offering his unrequested opinion for the last 48 hours suddenly decides that he no longer has anything to say

The argument has now gone from the initial Emenalo 'failed to sign' and 'Emenalo failed to present a vision' to Emenalo 'failed to recommend'

All I need from you now is that Emenalo your actual proof that Emenalo failed to recommend

Nihilist:


You keep raising points that you cannot actually answer.

1. If Emenalo actually raised an Alarm, how would you Mr Griffon know?

2. Back to the shortlist, you still haven't answered if you've seen Emenalo's shortlist. How do you know who was recommended?

Logically you've already lost the argument. Like I said earlier, Ibime saw where it was going and ran. Someone who has been offering his unrequested opinion for the last 48 hours suddenly decides that he no longer has anything to say

The argument has now gone from the initial Emenalo 'failed to sign' and 'Emenalo failed to present a vision' to Emenalo 'failed to recommend'

All I need from you now is that Emenalo your actual proof that Emenalo failed to recommend

I think i begin to see your point now. You simply don't want to follow speculations or Guess work. It seems you believe Emenalo could have been shortlisting players(Cms inclusive) for the club to sign but not all his list have been granted or perhaps some have been vetoed.
Well you could be right tho i believe you are wrong (i have no proof of course). Me believes for us to be able to shell cash on attackers like cuadrado for example when we have got Willian, salah, schurlle, Hazard etc who could conveniently offer what cuadrado had to offer not to mention the youth then we should be able to sign Cms which we urgently needed If Emenalo had shortlisted them.

#my own opinion.

Nihilist:


You keep raising points that you cannot actually answer.

1. If Emenalo actually raised an Alarm, how would you Mr Griffon know?

2. Back to the shortlist, you still haven't answered if you've seen Emenalo's shortlist. How do you know who was recommended?

Logically you've already lost the argument. Like I said earlier, Ibime saw where it was going and ran. Someone who has been offering his unrequested opinion for the last 48 hours suddenly decides that he no longer has anything to say

The argument has now gone from the initial Emenalo 'failed to sign' and 'Emenalo failed to present a vision' to Emenalo 'failed to recommend'

All I need from you now is that Emenalo your actual proof that Emenalo failed to recommend

Griffon what is your mate talking about?

He was not following when RDM and Benitez asked Emenalo for midfielders and Emenalo not only failed to recommend but fought with the managers over it. Wanyama was one example.

Or he forgot for example that our own scout Guy Hillion has been begging for Chelsea to sign Gianelli Imbula for the last 4 years and somehow Imbula keeps moving to lesser clubs but not Chelsea.

From Mike Forde to Ron Gourlay to Marina, both past and present, even the dead are handcuffing Emenalo.

Abeg leave this man.

A tuoro omara, o mara, a tuoro ofeke, o fenye ishi n'ohia.

Leave this guy with his matter. Our father did not send us to the market to entertain market woman.

Ibime:


Griffon what is your mate talking about?

He was not following when RDM and Benitez asked Emenalo for midfielders and Emenalo not only failed to recommend but fought with the managers over.Wanyama was one example.

Or he forgot for example that our own scout Guy Hillion has been begging for Chelsea to sign Gianelli Imbula for the last 4 years and somehow Imbula keeps moving to lesser clubs but not Chelsea.

From Mike Forde to Ron Gourlay to Marina, both past and present, even the dead are handcuffing Emenalo.

Abeg leave this man.

A tuoro omara, o mara, a tuoro ofeke, o fenye ishi n'ohia.

Oga why can't you just answer the simple question


You told us that Marina determine the right price


Please tell us how.

Nihilist:

Oga why can't you just answer the simple question


You told us that Marina determine the right price


Please tell us how.

My guy there's only so long we can entertain foolishness. Allow this thread move on abeg.

pamcode:
I think i begin to see your point now. You simply don't want to follow speculations or Guess work. It seems you believe Emenalo could have been shortlisting players(Cm's inclusive) for the club to sign but not all his list have been granted or perhaps some have been vetoed.
Well you could be right tho i believe you are wrong (i have no proof of course). Me believes for us to be able to shell cash on attackers like cuadrado for example when we have got Willian, salah, schurlle, Hazard etc who could conveniently offer what cuadrado had to offer not to mention the youth then we should be able to sign Cms which we urgently needed If Emenalo had shortlisted them.

#my own opinion.

Of course your opinion is valued.

I have been very careful to request verifiable facts and not speculation and opinions.

The truth of the matter is, nobody has a freaking clue how the transfers go on at Chelsea.

Journalists don't attend board meetings. Bloggers are not privy to information.

All we know for certain is what the club tells us.

Emenalo might be utterly incompetent, but he will have eyes. We currently have only 3 first team CMs. 4 if you count RLC.

You honestly believe that the head of scouting would not have discussed with the manager and his extensive scouting and pushed for CMs?

Chelsea reportedly bid up to 75 million Euros for Pogba last season but the bid was rejected.

Emenalo himself confirmed that the club went for stones but Everton refused to sell, and we know from the media that Jose wanted him

Even on Papy, Jose said while he wasnt his choice, he trusted the person that recommended papy completely because the same person that recommended Zouma was the one that recommended Papy.

This is my point, it's clear from the verifiable info that we have from soundbites and Chelsea as a club, that Emenalo is not working alone in recruitment.

He is consulting with the manager, and he has no power over financial decisions. I mean Ibime even posted an interview with the man where he state he didn't know if the player he was scouting would be signed by the Club.


That's why I personally have to question the narrative that Emenalo is mainly to blame for Chelsea's slump last season, and that Jose is blameless....because it makes no damn sense, at least to me

Yet when I ask for proof, all I get is convoluted speculation and unverified articles from people who are on the outside of the club just like us.

Ibime:


My guy there's only so long we can entertain foolishness. Allow this thread move on abeg.

England may drop Henderson on Tuesday

Nihilist:



Emenalo might be utterly incompetent, but he will have eyes. We currently have only 3 first team CMs. 4 if you count RLC.

You honestly believe that the head of scouting would not have discussed with the manager and his extensive scouting and pushed for CMs?

This is why when you too were busy sucking shekpe keepers d~ck, some of us were following arguments between Emenalo and RDM and Benitez over central midfielders.

Of course Emenalo was discussing CMs with his managers. . . . to tell them to shut up and face front when they asked for CMs.

Like I said before, Mikel must get space to play.

All of a sudden, you went and found an American-Russian lawyer lady who doesn't know the difference between fullback and midfielder and only became CEO in 2014 to pin the blame on.

Oh and before her it was Ron Gourlay in her position handcuffing Emenalo.

And before 2013 it was Mike Forde.

All 3 somehow aligned with a great phobia for midfielders along with 4 managers who have worked under Emenalo.

I have told you that when you finish exhausting all bogeymen for Emenalo, feel free to use an Emenalo apologists excuse who told us in 2013 that Emenalo has not updated his midfield because UEFA Homegrown Rules have exhausted all the space in the squad for midfielders. It applied in 2013 and it can still apply for you today in 2016.

No excuse under the sun will sound foolish to us, because we have heard worse. If you like, blame our lack of midfielders on oil price.

Like I said, when you finish your display, ask your kinsmen to come and carry you from the market. I will no longer entertain your utter foolishness because the sane man caught arguing with the mad man in the market will be mistaken for a fellow mad man.

Ibime:


This is why when you too were busy sucking shekpe keepers d~ck, some of us were following arguments between Emenalo and RDM and Benitez over central midfielders.

Of course Emenalo was discussing CMs with his managers. . . . to tell them to shut up and face front when they asked for CMs.

Like I said before, Mikel must get space to play.

All of a sudden, you went and found an American-Russian lawyer lady who doesn't know the difference between fullback and midfielder and only became CEO in 2014 to pin the blame on.

Oh and before her it was Ron Gourlay in her position handcuffing Emenalo.

And before 2013 it was Mike Forde.

All 3 somehow aligned with a great phobia for midfielders along with 4 managers who have worked under Emenalo.

I have told you that when you finish exhausting all bogeymen for Emenalo, feel free to use an Emenalo apologists excuse who told us in 2013 that Emenalo has not updated his midfield because UEFA Homegrown Rules have exhausted all the space in the squad for midfielders. It applied in 2013 and it can still apply for you today in 2016.

No excuse under the sun will sound foolish to us, because we have heard worse. If you like, blame our lack of midfielders on oil price.

Like I said, when you finish your display, ask your kinsmen to come and carry you from the market. I will no longer entertain your utter foolishness because the sane man caught arguing with the mad man in the market will be mistaken for a fellow mad man.

Dude phuck off and stop writing rubbish.

I asked you a simple question hours ago and you were talking about wanting to end the conversation.

Now I'm discussing with another poster, and you've butted your dull head into the convo.

Mike forde was clearly Marina's predecessor on the board.

If according to you, Marina determines if the price is right, then I have to ask you again


HOW does she determine the right price?

If you are to cowardly to stand by your opinion, just crawl back into your hole and allow me to continue my condos in piece

You sef know say dem no born you well to answer that question, because all your emenalo argument crumbles into dust.

Nihilist:


Mike forde was clearly Marina's predecessor on the board.

Ron Gourlay was Marinas predecessor as Chief Exec you clown.

So if Marina has been handcuffing Emenalo from 2014 till date, then of course Ron Gourlay was handcuffing him from 2011-2014.

And of course, you still have Mike Forde to throw into the mix as another bogeyman. And dont forget UEFA Homegrown rules, RDM, Benitez, JM, Hiddink and Stella Damascus.

This clown probably had his head in his anús when Benitez asked for central midfielder in 2013, and Emenalo shut him down. Benitez had to come up with the bright idea of using David Luiz in midfield to circumvent Emenalos opposition, which saved our season.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/clubs/chelsea/article3638755.ece

You are a clueless clown. Of course, go ahead and tell me Times Newspaper is one of the newspapers that has been sued in the past (which newspaper hasn't?); while waiting for me to produce list of Emenalos targets from Chelsea website till you grow grey hairs on your scrotum.

When I said some fools have nothing between their head and like forming ITK, you must be the worst example I have come across.

Ibime:


Ron Gourlay was Marinas predecessor as Chief Exec you clown.

So if Marina has been handcuffing Emenalo from 2014 till date, then of course Ron Gourlay was handcuffing him from 2011-2014.

And of course, you still have Mike Forde to throw into the mix as another bogeyman.

This clown probably had his head in his anús when Benitez asked for central midfielder in 2013, and Emenalo shut him down. Benitez had to come up with the bright idea of using David Luiz in midfield to circumvent Emenalos opposition, which saved our season.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/clubs/chelsea/article3638755.ece

You are a clueless clown. Of course, go ahead and tell me Times Newspaper is one of the ones that got sued; while waiting for me to produce list of Emenalos targets from Chelsea website till you grow grey hairs on your scrotum.

When I said some fools have nothing between their head and like forming ITK, you must be the worst example I have come across.

You are an absolute fool.

Mike Forde was sat on the board and his job description was listed as 'being responsible for player transfers'

He left, Marina came in and her job description includes ' being responsible for player transfers'


You continue to Gaffe.
Your article posted states that Benitez was having problems with the club Hierarchy regarding signing players....it does not mention who.

If this is a lie, kindly produce the excerpt from the article you posted mentioning Emenalo by name as the guy causing trouble.

But since you want to use The Times, let us use The Times.

This article states that Marina has " Complete Control over Player Transfers" right in the first paragraph too

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/premierleague/article4533467.ece

So can you please explain how your article implicates Emenal?


I'm still waiting for your answer to my original question

It is either Emenalo is utterly incompetent; or he will only start upgrading the midfield properly when his brother Mikel leaves. I am hoping it is the latter and not the former.

Let's move on. . . .

Ibime:
It is either Emenalo is utterly incompetent; or he will only start upgrading the midfield properly when his brother Mikel leaves. I am hoping it is the latter and not the former.

Let's move on. . . .

Still waiting for the excerpt from the times article you posted that mentions Emenalo by name as the guy causing Benitez problems.

Why is it that everytime you are asked a question, you want to move on.

Yet you come back to butt into conversations tgat don't concern you?