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Re: Scorecard Of PMB’s 1st Year In Office by joseph1832(m): 11:40am On May 28, 2016
wordychap:

The living condition of d average Nigerian was far better than it is now - high cost of goods n services now with stagnation or even reduction (job losses) is an indicator.

Its not paper propaganda, the same 'paper propaganda' states that Nigeria is presently in a stage of stagflation heading to recession; everyone can fill it.
Can you provide me with a reputable link that shows how the living condition of the average nigerian, differs from what was obtainable from 2010-2015?


2015 before handover, 'paper propaganda' stated that Nigeria met d millinium development goal on agriculture and food production two years ahead of 2015 target set by the United Nations, thereby earning a special award by the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations- Nigerians felt it in cost of food items.
Still, how did meeting the millennium development goal affect the lives of the average nigerian?

I tell you, its not today I know or hear of how Tomatoes became scarce.
Re: Scorecard Of PMB’s 1st Year In Office by obagangan: 4:38pm On May 28, 2016
my general, I will take a bullet for him any day or time.
100% u are the best
Re: Scorecard Of PMB’s 1st Year In Office by mrvitalis(m): 4:39pm On May 28, 2016
TonyeBarcanista:
Buhari's first year was a huge disappointment. He started off in the most clueless manner and got worse in his cluelessness. His one year presidency was filled with nepotism, maladministration, fraud, insincerity, Fulani and northern supremacy, and everything evil.

May God grant us the grace to endure the next three years of Mr President.
Someone like u should not just used word anyhow
Can u defend those things up there, what could he have Done other wise I expected that from u

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Re: Scorecard Of PMB’s 1st Year In Office by appini: 4:41pm On May 28, 2016
DropShot:

But the areas he's not doing well has impact on the overall populace! That's the problem.

Let them dey deceive themselves.
Re: Scorecard Of PMB’s 1st Year In Office by Leke001: 4:42pm On May 28, 2016
greatgod2012:
I love your sincerity, especially that number 3 of the negatives. I just hope our dear PMB will not wait for people to start dropping dead on the road before doing something positive on the economy.

he doesnt know what to do and worse of all he's not ready to ask for it;from those who know I mean.
Re: Scorecard Of PMB’s 1st Year In Office by jojothaiv(m): 4:42pm On May 28, 2016
STARGREEN:
Don't expect much from Him as he lack what it takes to perform especially at this his age. What knows he of principles of economies? as for security he's ok but what you give u must receive sometimes.
I don't expect much from him, you can't give what you don't have...
Re: Scorecard Of PMB’s 1st Year In Office by DeleSuper1: 4:44pm On May 28, 2016
grin Na joke o...

The forget to add no more queue at the fueling station / high rising of fuel price unnoticed.
i
Bundesligas. for now -30/100 may larrer it can overturn.

Gerarahere jare. I want to go and check the tarrif of air. shocked
Re: Scorecard Of PMB’s 1st Year In Office by DeleSuper1: 4:44pm On May 28, 2016
grin Na joke o...

They forget to add no more queue at the fueling station / high rising of fuel price unnoticed.
i
Bundesligas. for now -30/100 may larrer it can overturn.

Gerarahere jare. I want to go and check the tarrif of air. shocked
Re: Scorecard Of PMB’s 1st Year In Office by banmee(m): 4:45pm On May 28, 2016
STARGREEN:
Don't expect much from Him as he lack what it takes to perform especially at this his age. What knows he of principles of economies? as for security he's ok but what you give u must receive sometimes.


As far as i am concerned there is only one achievement he has managed to accomplish. He has prevented Nigeria from collapsing completely. I thought it would be impossible especially since the price of oil plummeted. In fact, he performed a miracle. I don't think Nigerians think things through thoroughly. This is a country maligned with corruption, zero saving, zero infrastructure, and animalistic tendencies. A country with only one source of income for half a century and they expect their present situation not to happen. Una try.

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Re: Scorecard Of PMB’s 1st Year In Office by DeleSuper1: 4:45pm On May 28, 2016
grin Na joke o...

They forget to add no more queue at the fueling station / high rising of fuel price unnoticed.

Bundesligas. for now -30/100 may larrer it can overturn.

Gerarahere jare. I want to go and check the tarrif of air. shocked
Re: Scorecard Of PMB’s 1st Year In Office by maxzzo1(m): 4:47pm On May 28, 2016
We should not deceive ourself his scorecard is very low 1/100....I can't even figure out any meaningful and result oriented project/input from dis govt....hike in everything,no light, lies/propaganda, blames instead of working, confusion/no clue,noise makers in d cabinet ,insensitivity etc
Re: Scorecard Of PMB’s 1st Year In Office by agabaI23(m): 4:48pm On May 28, 2016
DropShot:

That's your opinion which is made up since you lost in the last election. Not based on facts.
You want objective criticism but you are subjective..

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Re: Scorecard Of PMB’s 1st Year In Office by laprince(m): 4:52pm On May 28, 2016
kossyablaze:
How can u give someone dat failed fantastically a whooping 48%

I tire ooo
Re: Scorecard Of PMB’s 1st Year In Office by Saintp(m): 4:56pm On May 28, 2016
Some of you are now trying to form objectivity while you are part of why PMB is failing because you defend everyof policies.

Why didn't you people voice out initially, because things are not working, you want to form objectivity.

The greatest threat to PMB success is sychophants who would defend every of his wrong move but come back later to grade him low just to score cheap objective points.

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Re: Scorecard Of PMB’s 1st Year In Office by SirVintageCock: 4:56pm On May 28, 2016
joseph1832:
Can you provide me with a reputable link that shows how the living condition of the average nigerian, differs from what was obtainable from 2010-2015?


Still, how did meeting the millennium development goal affect the lives of the average nigerian?

I tell you, its not today I know or hear of how Tomatoes became scarce.
OK, let's take the price of rice , shall we

From 8,500-23,500.

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Re: Scorecard Of PMB’s 1st Year In Office by ibietela2(m): 5:01pm On May 28, 2016
Dropdead abi dropshot
Re: Scorecard Of PMB’s 1st Year In Office by ibietela2(m): 5:02pm On May 28, 2016
Saintp:
Some of you are now trying to form objectivity while you are part of why PMB is failing because you defend everyof policies.

Why didn't you people voice out initially, because things are not working, you want to form objectivity.

The greatest threat to PMB success is sychophants who would defend every of his wrong move but come back later to grade him low just to score cheap objective points.

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Re: Scorecard Of PMB’s 1st Year In Office by plaetton: 5:05pm On May 28, 2016
DropShot:
It’s exactly one year that the Change government was handed the mantle of leadership of Nigeria for a four-year term. Irrespective of what anyone’s political leaning is, it’s very appropriate to measure the performance of PMB and his government as objectively as one can be. As a believer and supporter of this government, I have done some articles in the past to show support for the administration. Let see how our change managers have fared in the past one year.

The Positives

1. Successful implementation of TSA
The great idea to bring all government revenues under the umbrella of a unified single account known as treasury single account was birthed by Goodluck Jonathan’s administration. But for some political reasons, GEJ was not able to implement the program. Since coming of PMB, implementation of the TSA was one of the first orders he gave and we now know that the implementation has saved Nigeria up to N3 trillion that hitherto would have been kept in different government’s accounts from where the politicians could do as they wish with such monies. I think the president has done well here and I score him 8/10.

2. Reduction in cost of governance and blocking of wastages
In the past, it was not uncommon to read that as many as 200 or 300 delegates accompanied the president on international trips. Since the coming of PMB, such numbers have been reduced to 20s and 30s even on the most important of trips.
PMB has also stopped the practice of government sponsoring private persons on holy pilgrimage thereby saving the nation some millions of dollars in the process. Last year alone, the FG saved over $1 million by not sponsoring people on Haj. Some states later followed this line.
By reducing the number of ministries from 48 to 24, the FG has surely been able to save some monies that could have been spent on overhead costs. The president scores 7/10 here.

3. Appreciable success in the fight against BHT
No doubt this has to be one of the major achievements of PMB in his first year in office. Even though Boko Haram Terrorists group remain a threat to Nigeria’s security, it’s surely not as potent and as formidable as it was when the president took over as many of the terrorists have been killed while many towns and villages have been liberated by the Nigerian Army. This success has given renewed hope to the possibility of rescuing some of the Chibok Girls (if not all) from their captors. I score him 7/10 here.

4. Stemming the tide of corruption and prosecution of past corruption cases
Another signature achievement of PMB is the success being achieved in the fight against corruption. No matter how we dice it, we all know that corruption is responsible for the comatose state of our affairs. It was corruption that stalled our development as a giant of Africa. Since PMB’s coming, corruption has been given a bloodied nose even though there is still plenty of work to do. In addition to that, government officials now understand that they cannot engage in impunity and corrupt practices without getting punished.

We will have a better appreciation of the success of the government’s fight on corruption when the president finally reveals how much has been retrieved from past looters during his address to the nation tomorrow but we know the recovered monies run into billions of naira. Fingers crossed. Another 7/10 here.


5. Improved relationship with the outside diplomatic world
Despite criticism of his numerous travel abroad, discerning minds now know that Nigeria is gradually regaining her battered image in the comity of nations. The president had been recognized guest in many very important international functions where his efforts were recognized as well. It is our hope that by the time PMB completes his first tenure, our image will have been further improved globally. He scores 6/10 here.


The Negatives

1. Failure to reduce number of presidential airplanes
Despite largely reducing cost of governance, it is absurd and annoying that PMB has not deemed it necessary to cut the number of presidential jets from 11 (?) to six or five. This runs contrary to his stand before becoming president and there cannot be any justification for keeping such large fleet of money-gulping planes. I hope the president sees reasons to reduce the fleet as a matter of necessity and in line with his frugal image. His score here is 0/10.

2. Indecisive in tackling Niger Delta Avengers and other militants
The president has been indecisive in bringing the ND Avengers and other militants under control such that their criminal activities have reduced daily oil production from 2.2 million bpd to about 1.6 million bpd.
Why announcing that the militants will be treated as terrorists when in fact you had not made up your mind on how to treat them? To sum it up, I have not seen the carrots neither have I seen the sticks. Like I said in one of my posts, should the militants succeed in crippling the economy of Nigeria, I will not blame them and their supporters. The blame will go to the Chief Security Officer of the country, who is responsible for securing our lives and properties just as GEJ took the blame for BHT. I score him 3/10 here.

3. Worsened economic situation
No doubt the president inherited a badly damaged economy. But the fact is, if the economy was doing fine he would not have won the election. In other words, the president and his VP were elected to find solutions to the myriads of challenges facing the country. So, by all means necessary, we expect PMB and his team to solve the economic problems and not to give excuses why they can’t tackle them. EOD.
Cost of almost everything has doubled or more than double since beginning of this year. I am not sure Nigerians can go like this for another one year without people dropping dead on the streets. So, the president must find the urgent solutions to resolve the crisis bedeviling the economy NOW. Nigerians need improved electricity, availability of goods and services at reasonable prices, job opportunities for the unemployed, etc. Here the president scores 3/10.

4. Handling Fulani Herdsmen Criminality
This issue of Fulani herdsmen is as old as the entity called Nigeria. However, it has assumed a more alarming dimension since beginning of this year. The security agencies, under the commandment of our C in C have not lived up to expectations. Just as with the ND Avengers and other terrorists, the president has remained hesitant and indecisive with how to deal with them. I score him 3/10.

5. Absence of solid programs at diversifying the economy
Past regimes paid lip service to diversification of the economy away from the largely oil-dependent to one that depends on multiple sources of income. Though we have seen the provisions in the budget that signifies that PMB will diversify the economy, however we have not seen necessary activities unveiling to support such provisions. For the fact that it normally takes time to diversify the economy and the fact that the budget was only signed in May, I will score the president 4/10 here.

So, by my analysis, the president has managed to score 48 out of 100. Not a good result in my opinion but he still has three more years to turn things around.

Your objective opinion is welcome.
No.3 is the only thing I can credit to this administration.

The rest of the positives column are pure lies, or to put it diplomatically, being economic with the FACTS.

1. If you understand economics, TSA implementation last year, stands , and will make history as the stuuuupidest economic decision any leader can make in the universe.
https://www.nairaland.com/3130801/tsa-how-buhari-nuked-nigerian

Score on TSA is -10 and falling by the day.

2. Is this supposed to be joke ? I beg . Stop it.
Despite his change budget being exposed very earlier as being filled with padding ( a fancy word for fraud) , we expected a total purge of the padding that would have trimmed the Budget and saved Nigeria of between N500b and N1trillion.
But lo and behold, the padded items stayed, to shock and amazement of the whole world.

Buhari had a rare opportunity to cut the cost of governance by at least N1 trillion in this year's budget, but he did not.
Big laugh.

4. Lol.
Another joke.
So you think that corruption has reduced in Nigeria?
Perhaps, just like your hero , you don't know the meaning of corruption.
NEPOTISM, for example, something that Buhari practices openly and unabashedly, is the seed germ, the granddaddy of corruption.

Constitutional and rule of law violations is the grandmamma of corruption.

We can make a strong case that Buhari is promoting CORRUPTION in the polity.

And oh, what about a simple audit, made public, of APC election finances for at least the 2 years ?
Don't you think that Buhari has a moral and ethical obligation to show Nigerians the financial mechanisms that brought him to power.
Don't you think so, dropshot? undecided

Nonsense.

5. This is more than a joke. This is a mischievous LIE.
Nigerian never suffered any type of diplomatic isolation during the past Administration.

Battered image my foot.
Nigeria was one the busiest investment hubs and rated positively by international investors and bodies during the last administration, even despite the Boko haram issues.
You can't fix what was not broken.

Shameful lie.

In conclusion, cognitive dissonance is a horrible horrible state of mind.
We understand and sympathize with your condition, Mr OP.
grin

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Re: Scorecard Of PMB’s 1st Year In Office by godwin120alex: 5:10pm On May 28, 2016
I will score PMB 10/100 cos his govt lacks direction
Re: Scorecard Of PMB’s 1st Year In Office by watchindelta(m): 5:10pm On May 28, 2016
Thavybe:
I quite agree with this. One thing that has slowed down economic growth in Nigeria is electricity and what is appalling is that both the past and the present administration has not given energy enough prioritisation judging from the budget.

How can we diversify,attract enough investors,beat down cost of commodities without a stable source of electricity? I think there have to be a paradigm shift from this oil brouhaha which is secondary and focus on the primary issues such as electricity.
sure without light any economy is bullshit. Nigeria is bullshit. u get sense bro.
Re: Scorecard Of PMB’s 1st Year In Office by kazyhm(m): 5:10pm On May 28, 2016
DropShot:

He doesn't need to be very good in economics. It's enough to have good economic team and advisers.


like emefiele and adeosun ?

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Re: Scorecard Of PMB’s 1st Year In Office by DropShot: 5:11pm On May 28, 2016
Saintp:
Some of you are now trying to form objectivity while you are part of why PMB is failing because you defend everyof policies.

Why didn't you people voice out initially, because things are not working, you want to form objectivity.

The greatest threat to PMB success is sychophants who would defend every of his wrong move but come back later to grade him low just to score cheap objective points.
People like you are the worst set of human beings ever created by God. The reason being that you defend every step of the person you support even when they're wrong. And when anyone criticizes his own preferred choice so as to make them perform better, you also see them as looking for cheap applause from sycophants like you.

Fyi, this govt is our govt. I mean it's the govt of those of us who believe in its ability to perform. And we have the duty to voice out our concerns when we see the need to do so. Criticizing PMB doesn't translate to regretting supporting him to be president. Should we need to do the last election again, between him and GEJ, we will still give PMB the mandate.

Get a life.

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Re: Scorecard Of PMB’s 1st Year In Office by joseph1832(m): 5:12pm On May 28, 2016
SirVintageCock:
OK, let's take the price of rice , shall we

From 8,500-23,500.


Oh yea... Let's start from 1999 shall we?
Re: Scorecard Of PMB’s 1st Year In Office by DropShot: 5:14pm On May 28, 2016
plaetton:

No.3 is the only thing I can credit to this administration.

The rest of the positives column are pure lies, or to put it diplomatically, being economic with the FACTS.

1. If you understand economics, TSA implementation last year, stands , and will make history as the stuuuupidest economic decision any leader can make in the universe.
Score on TSA is -10 and falling by the day.

2. Is this supposed to be joke ? I beg . Stop it.
Despite his change budget being exposed very earlier as filled with padding ( a fancy word for fraud) , we expected a total purge of the padding that would trimmed the Budget and saved Nigeria of between N500b and N1trillion.
But lo and behold, the padded items stayed, to shock and amazement of the whole world.

Buhari had a rare opportunity to cut the cost of governance by at least N1 trillion in this year's budget, but he did not.
Big laugh.

4. Lol.
Another joke.
So you think that corruption has reduced in Nigeria?
Perhaps, just like your hero , you don't know the meaning of corruption.
NEPOTISM, for example, something that Buhari practices openly and unabashedly, is the seed germ, the granddaddy of corruption.

Constitutional and rule of law violations is the grandmamma of corruption.

We can make a strong case that Buhari is promoting CORRUPTION in the polity.

And oh, what about a simple audit, made public, of APC election finances for at least the 2 years ?
Don't you think that Buhari has a moral and ethical obligation to Nigerians the financial mechanisms that brought him to power.

Nonsense.

5. This is more than a joke. This is a mischievous LIE.
Nigerian never suffered any type of diplomatic isolation during the past Administration.

Battered image my foot.
Nigeria was one the busiest investment hubs and rated positively by international investors and bodies during the last administration, even despite the Boko haram issues.
You can't fix what was not broken.

Shameful lie.

In conclusion, cognitive dissonance is a horrible horrible state of mind.
We understand and sympathize with your condition, Mr OP.
grin
You're not making sense. Just blabbing. Sorry, got no time for your likes.
Re: Scorecard Of PMB’s 1st Year In Office by nkemjacob2(m): 5:14pm On May 28, 2016
dis score card is political. Tomorrow my own score card will be out. PMB first year is total FAILURE....

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Re: Scorecard Of PMB’s 1st Year In Office by SirVintageCock: 5:14pm On May 28, 2016
joseph1832:
Oh yea... Let's start from 1999 shall we?
Then where is the change?

Are you retrogressive or progressive, cos you sycophancy sinks to the heavens.

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Re: Scorecard Of PMB’s 1st Year In Office by sunnex2: 5:14pm On May 28, 2016
DropShot:
It’s exactly one year that the Change government was handed the mantle of leadership of Nigeria for a four-year term. Irrespective of what anyone’s political leaning is, it’s very appropriate to measure the performance of PMB and his government as objectively as one can be. As a believer and supporter of this government, I have done some articles in the past to show support for the administration. Let see how our change managers have fared in the past one year.

The Positives

1. Successful implementation of TSA
The great idea to bring all government revenues under the umbrella of a unified single account known as treasury single account was birthed by Goodluck Jonathan’s administration. But for some political reasons, GEJ was not able to implement the program. Since coming of PMB, implementation of the TSA was one of the first orders he gave and we now know that the implementation has saved Nigeria up to N3 trillion that hitherto would have been kept in different government’s accounts from where the politicians could do as they wish with such monies. I think the president has done well here and I score him 8/10.

2. Reduction in cost of governance and blocking of wastages
In the past, it was not uncommon to read that as many as 200 or 300 delegates accompanied the president on international trips. Since the coming of PMB, such numbers have been reduced to 20s and 30s even on the most important of trips.
PMB has also stopped the practice of government sponsoring private persons on holy pilgrimage thereby saving the nation some millions of dollars in the process. Last year alone, the FG saved over $1 million by not sponsoring people on Haj. Some states later followed this line.
By reducing the number of ministries from 48 to 24, the FG has surely been able to save some monies that could have been spent on overhead costs. The president scores 7/10 here.

3. Appreciable success in the fight against BHT
No doubt this has to be one of the major achievements of PMB in his first year in office. Even though Boko Haram Terrorists group remain a threat to Nigeria’s security, it’s surely not as potent and as formidable as it was when the president took over as many of the terrorists have been killed while many towns and villages have been liberated by the Nigerian Army. This success has given renewed hope to the possibility of rescuing some of the Chibok Girls (if not all) from their captors. I score him 7/10 here.

4. Stemming the tide of corruption and prosecution of past corruption cases
Another signature achievement of PMB is the success being achieved in the fight against corruption. No matter how we dice it, we all know that corruption is responsible for the comatose state of our affairs. It was corruption that stalled our development as a giant of Africa. Since PMB’s coming, corruption has been given a bloodied nose even though there is still plenty of work to do. In addition to that, government officials now understand that they cannot engage in impunity and corrupt practices without getting punished.

We will have a better appreciation of the success of the government’s fight on corruption when the president finally reveals how much has been retrieved from past looters during his address to the nation tomorrow but we know the recovered monies run into billions of naira. Fingers crossed. Another 7/10 here.


5. Improved relationship with the outside diplomatic world
Despite criticism of his numerous travel abroad, discerning minds now know that Nigeria is gradually regaining her battered image in the comity of nations. The president had been recognized guest in many very important international functions where his efforts were recognized as well. It is our hope that by the time PMB completes his first tenure, our image will have been further improved globally. He scores 6/10 here.


The Negatives

1. Failure to reduce number of presidential airplanes
Despite largely reducing cost of governance, it is absurd and annoying that PMB has not deemed it necessary to cut the number of presidential jets from 11 (?) to six or five. This runs contrary to his stand before becoming president and there cannot be any justification for keeping such large fleet of money-gulping planes. I hope the president sees reasons to reduce the fleet as a matter of necessity and in line with his frugal image. His score here is 0/10.

2. Indecisive in tackling Niger Delta Avengers and other militants
The president has been indecisive in bringing the ND Avengers and other militants under control such that their criminal activities have reduced daily oil production from 2.2 million bpd to about 1.6 million bpd.
Why announcing that the militants will be treated as terrorists when in fact you had not made up your mind on how to treat them? To sum it up, I have not seen the carrots neither have I seen the sticks. Like I said in one of my posts, should the militants succeed in crippling the economy of Nigeria, I will not blame them and their supporters. The blame will go to the Chief Security Officer of the country, who is responsible for securing our lives and properties just as GEJ took the blame for BHT. I score him 3/10 here.

3. Worsened economic situation
No doubt the president inherited a badly damaged economy. But the fact is, if the economy was doing fine he would not have won the election. In other words, the president and his VP were elected to find solutions to the myriads of challenges facing the country. So, by all means necessary, we expect PMB and his team to solve the economic problems and not to give excuses why they can’t tackle them. EOD.
Cost of almost everything has doubled or more than double since beginning of this year. I am not sure Nigerians can go like this for another one year without people dropping dead on the streets. So, the president must find the urgent solutions to resolve the crisis bedeviling the economy NOW. Nigerians need improved electricity, availability of goods and services at reasonable prices, job opportunities for the unemployed, etc. Here the president scores 3/10.

4. Handling Fulani Herdsmen Criminality
This issue of Fulani herdsmen is as old as the entity called Nigeria. However, it has assumed a more alarming dimension since beginning of this year. The security agencies, under the commandment of our C in C have not lived up to expectations. Just as with the ND Avengers and other terrorists, the president has remained hesitant and indecisive with how to deal with them. I score him 3/10.

5. Absence of solid programs at diversifying the economy
Past regimes paid lip service to diversification of the economy away from the largely oil-dependent to one that depends on multiple sources of income. Though we have seen the provisions in the budget that signifies that PMB will diversify the economy, however we have not seen necessary activities unveiling to support such provisions. For the fact that it normally takes time to diversify the economy and the fact that the budget was only signed in May, I will score the president 4/10 here.

So, by my analysis, the president has managed to score 48 out of 100. Not a good result in my opinion but he still has three more years to turn things around.

Your objective opinion is welcome.



4/10 is 40% not 48% please.

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Re: Scorecard Of PMB’s 1st Year In Office by Nobody: 5:24pm On May 28, 2016
watchindelta:
sure without light any economy is bullshit. Nigeria is bullshit. u get sense bro.
Lol, I dey tell you.
I have taken someone in labour to a general hospital and they couldn't attend to her because there was no light and no fuel, that was in the night o. Thank God she survived
Re: Scorecard Of PMB’s 1st Year In Office by plaetton: 5:24pm On May 28, 2016
DropShot:

You're not making sense. Just blabbing. Sorry, got no time for your likes.

Of course, it's the usual.

Rehearsed minions always always run away when they jam the brick walls of common sense FACTS.

Big laugh.

I don't know what makes Nairaland political spammers think they can spam and respam APC Talking Points without being challenged with simple facts.

The very fact that you have chosen to run away, instead of offering a sensible rebuttals one by one , is evidence of ill motive, far far from objectivity, in opening this thread.

If you are a man of your convictions, then take me up on any or all of the issues I have raised in my post.

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