Debroslink:


22 major trophies in 7 years for Pep. Using this analogy, if Pep coaches for 39 years, he'll surpass 100 trophies.

Inferences? Really we dwell on inferences now?
The absolute here is the 49 trophies for Fergie which can be produced as hard objects even @ apocalypse.

Can Pep boast of the 100 trophies in hard objects if we demand it now??

ollah1:


U are indeed an illiterate and ur first line belongs to you. So you gonna count the year he took a break as tho he's got a job. Oga oo


What teams did fergie bully to win series of leagues. Westham, Bolton and the likes. When wenger was spending and Mou came on board, he went into hiding and when Man c arrived fully. He disappeared like smoke.

Mehn. Nigga shut the fûck up. U know nothing.

Its not my bizness that Pep went on leave when his mates were busy competing for trophies. Which kind mumu sabbatical was he going for after just three years in his career?? Nothing defines laziness more than that. And fact still remains that the last time he managed a team in a UCL final was five years ago.


Lool. Ode ni e! SAF bullied Bolton and West Ham?? How convenient for u to ve left out Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea etc. SAF faced more competition than Pep ever faced in that useless one team league. Get that into ur thick skull.

When Wenger was spending he was never a threat. Mou and SAF never spent up to three seasons in the same league. So no comment there. And when City came with their money and won the league by goal difference, SAF proved it was a fluke and won it back the following yr by 11 points.

GBR1:
This Pep vs Fergie argument is pure bullsh1t regardless. They are two generations of coaches who spent or would spend most of their careers in different time periods, landscape and given conditions varies deeply and sample space are vastly too apart different to make a good comparison. The folks making this argument now are doing it because they've lost the Pep vs Mourinho own and are just pontificating and clutching at straws.

The point is, City won the Carling cup, United won the FA cup

Pep Vs Mou starting afresh in epl and going for 3 years.

We say Pep will win the league, DopeJemi say Mou has nothing to prove.

This means Mou is the better coach even if he doesn't win the league and Pep does.

DOES THIS ANALOGY MAKE SENSE?

Debroslink:


22 major trophies in 7 years for Pep. Using this analogy, if Pep coaches for 39 years, he'll surpass 100 trophies.

He may have 22 trophies but not 22 major trophies. You're including bonuses like club world cup( which he has won thrice i think) or the Spanish super cup( the equivalent of the community shield) as major trophies.
Now there's no guarantee he would have continued to enjoy that much success at Barcelona and that's he fled when the results stopped going his way with just about 4 years spent. Fergie spent over 20 years and enjoyed prolonged success at a single club. Do you why remaining at the top is harder than getting there?
It's the same reason no club has retained the CL since it's new format.

While it's not a bad thing to draw analogies and make predictions, you've just made a very silly one here.

SailorXY:

Inferences? Really we dwell on inferences now?
The absolute here is the 49 trophies for Fergie which can be produced as hard objects even @ apocalypse.

Can Pep boast of the 100 trophies in hard objects if we demand it now??

Lol see as my guy they tweak analogy.

The point is efficiency. OK show us Fergie's trophies in his 1st 7 years, or in his last 7 years, or even in his best 7 years and let's compare with Pep's 22 trophies.

Debroslink:
The point is, City won the Carling cup, United won the FA cup

Pep Vs Mou starting afresh in epl and going for 3 years.

We say Pep will win the league, DopeJemi say Mou has nothing to prove.

This means Mou is the better coach even if he doesn't win the league and Pep does.

DOES THIS ANALOGY MAKE SENSE?

Thats why I say "Emi loko iya won" See how they have been dancing palongo since yesterday spewing all kind of excuses

Wait till they sign? Why should we wait? Pep hasnt signed, Mourinho hasnt signed both are on equal ground lets measure them but no they are running from pillar to post

This is the most equal level Pep and Mourinho have ever been yet we are seeing all sort of obscene excuses

If anyone had given the same excuses for Pep they would be the first to shout

Debroslink:


The point is, City won the Carling cup, United won the FA cup

Pep Vs Mou starting afresh in epl and going for 3 years.

We say Pep will win the league, DopeJemi say Mou has nothing to prove.

This means Mou is the better coach even if he doesn't win the league and Pep does.

DOES THIS ANALOGY MAKE SENSE?

That because the given conditions are different. Why should United folks agree to a silly analogy that states the conditions are the same which is false?
City is currently in a better position than United and have an head start already. If you can't see this, then i'm sorry i can't help you and that's why i won't agree to or endorse such a silly analogy.

GBR1:

He may have 22 trophies but not 22 major trophies. You're including bonuses like club world cup( which he has won thrice i think) or the Spanish super cup( the equivalent of the community shield) as major trophies.
Now there's no guarantee he would have continued to enjoy that much success at Barcelona and that's he fled when the results stopped going his way with just about 4 years spent. Fergie spent over 20 years and enjoyed prolonged success at a single club. Do you why remaining at the top is harder than getting there?
It's the same reason no club has retained the CL since it's new format.

While it's not a bad thing to draw analogies and make predictions, you've just made a very silly one here.

Who cares whether Fergie stays for 50 years at a club? Going from one club to another is even a harder job than what Fergie and Wenger enjoyed.

Pep stayed for 4 years and left with honour. Mou can't even manage 3 years without being fired.

Bonus like club world cup? Lol does Fergies trophy haul not include bonuses like te same Club world cup, Charity shield, Intercontinental cup Dryborough cup etc

When Pep wins it it becomes bonus, when fergie wins it becomes Legendary

Keep tying yourselves in knots

Debroslink:


Who cares whether Fergie stays for 50 years at a club? Going from one club to another is even a harder job than what Fergie and Wenger enjoyed.

Pep stayed for 4 years and left with honour. Mou can't even manage 3 years without being fired.

Why is staying at the top considered harder than reaching the top? It's easier to move from teams and that's why most top coaches these days enjoy using the blueprint.
If you're in doubt, see a long term coach like wenger for example. In the beginning he started very well, but we but know how he has ended up currently.

raumdeuter:


Below are the players who started the 2006 CL final under Rijkaard

Valdes
Oleguer
Puyol
Marquez
Van Bronckhorst
Edmilson
Deco
Van Bommel
Guily
Etoo
Ronaldinho

3years later when Pep made his own CL final and won the treble. In the final game

Only Valdes Puyol and Etoo were left 3 out of 11

Yet they are telling us he met a ready made team at Barcelona. Keep on lying

Now he has gone to City and accepted the challenge to win the league, WHy cant Mourinho fans accept the same instead of giving excuses all over

Pep fans have not given excuses here. Mourinho fans are the ones giving excuses like lets see who they buy, Mourino have nothing to prove, bla bla

What does this mean? You rushed to go and bring out the team sheet of the final of UCL of that year. Does it mean that it`s only these eleven players that played all the matches throughout that season? Where`s Xavi and Iniesta? Or were they not part of the team then? Was that the full team list for that season? The way you reason at times ehn.....
My question is why didn`t he qualify for UCL final in his three years with Bayern if he was so good? I`m sure he would`ve done that if he had Messi in that team.

I`ve told you it`s Pep who needs to come and prove himself. It`s Pep`s overated competence that`s at stake here, not his rivalry with Mourinho.

GBR1:

That because the given conditions are different. Why should United folks agree to a silly analogy that states the conditions are the same which is false?
City is currently in a better position than United and have an head start already. If you can't see this, then i'm sorry i can't help you and that's why i won't agree to or endorse such a silly analogy.

So you agree that Mou is better even if he fails to win the league in 3 years, but can curse Van Gaal for not doing so in 2 years despite winning the FA cup.

Gerarahere jare

raumdeuter:
Bonus like club world cup? Lol does Fergies trophy haul not include bonuses like te same Club world cup, Charity shield, Intercontinental cup Dryborough cup etc

When Pep wins it it becomes bonus, when fergie wins it becomes Legendary

Keep tying yourselves in knots

Show me the post where i stated Fergie trophy count and included those bonuses. There's none obviously but you just had to find something to pick at. So shallow of you.

See Mourinho for example who has won the CL twice but hasn't even won the world club trophy or other bonuses because he's alway moved on to other challenges each time he wins the CL and doesn't give a sh1t about it while Pep folks who would scream euphorically of his silly trophy count inflated by such trophies.

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Debroslink:


So you agree that Mou is better even if he fails to win the league in 3 years, but can curse Van Gaal for not doing so in 2 years despite winning the FA cup.

Gerarahere jare

Mourinho has never failed to win the league within 2 years of his stay at his new club. If he fails in his 2nd year while Pep doesn't, then i would consider him a failure.

The first year is not preemptive for me and i have good reasons for that.

The kind yeye analogy wey person dey read for this place sha....! Smh

Dayo, you see the wahala wey you create for here abi...?

Alicia Keys performing "Empire State of Mind" at an event taking place in Milan

Dem for hire Tiwa Savage sef!

Debroslink:




Which rubbish revolution?

The true evolution every Barcelona fan knows is the Messi revolution.

Rijkaard won the UCL without Messi. Yes/No

Pep unleashed Messi the beast Yes/No

And who integrated Messi into the first team for Pep to benefit from? Are you also telling me that Messi didn`t play any UCL match during Rijkaard`s reign?

tess1:

What does this mean? You rushed to go and bring out the team sheet of the final of UCL of that year. Does it mean that it`s only these eleven players that played all the matches throughout that season? Where`s Xavi and Iniesta? Or were they not part of the team then? Was that the full team list for that season? The way you reason at times ehn.....
My question is why didn`t he qualify for UCL final in his three years with Bayern if he was so good? I`m sure he would`ve done that if he had Messi in that team.

I`ve told you it`s Pep who needs to come and prove himself. It`s Pep`s overated competence that`s at stake here, not his rivalry with Mourinho.

if Xavi and Iniesta were considered good enough by Rijkaard he would start them in the biggest game of his career. He didnt qualify for CL final with Bayern, why didnt Mourinho qualify for CL finals with Chelsea? Why didnt he qualify for CL finals with Madrid.

Man Utd is paying top dollars yet Mourinho who was sacked at his last job doesnt need to prove himself.

These excuses are hilarious.

Pep's overrated competence not Mourinhos overrated competence? the competence that got him fired at his last 2 jobs one for almost relegating his team. A special one who almost relegated his team

This is hilarious

dopeJemi:


When did you guys go trophyless for two seasons before pep arrived? Make lie no kill you? Who won the 2006 champions league final and which year did pep take over


Answers on a postcard

I don't answer newbies who act as tho they are more knowledgeable than others

Ogbeni Ramuzaki, No be Stefan Savic the EPL reject Simeone start for final so?

tess1:
And who integrated Messi into the first team for Pep to benefit from? Are you also telling me that Messi didn`t play any UCL match during Rijkaard`s reign?

Integrated ko, Denigrated ni.

If Mourinho turns Rashford into Ballon dor, So its LvG who integrated or is it differentiated that would get the credit?

See how illogical you are getting?

ANything you are asking of Pep, I would ask the same of mourinho

Dadehmola:
Ogbeni Ramuzaki, No be Stefan Savic the EPL reject Simeone start for final so?

The last CL you won, I saw a Bayern reject named Owen Hargreaves in the starting lineup

AdeLaNa1:
Mehn. Nigga shut the fûck up. U know nothing.

Its not my bizness that Pep went on leave when his mates were busy competing for trophies. Which kind mumu sabbatical was he going for after just three years in his career?? Nothing defines laziness more than that. And fact still remains that the last time he managed a team in a UCL final was five years ago.


Lool. Ode ni e! SAF bullied Bolton and West Ham?? How convenient for u to ve left out Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea etc. SAF faced more competition than Pep ever faced in that useless one team league. Get that into ur thick skull.

When Wenger was spending he was never a threat. Mou and SAF never spent up to three seasons in the same league. So no comment there. And when City came with their money and won the league by goal difference, SAF proved it was a fluke and won it back the following yr by 11 points.

Dude quit writing like a dunce. Pep was at barca for fours years and took a break. Pep has only 7 years coaching career but according to you it's eight. Olodo


When did Chelsea become a title contender? 2004
When last did Liverpool won the league? 1990
When last did arsenal won the league? 2004

Who were the title contenders with Manchester United from 1990 till 2004?

When Fergie's name is mentioned you grow muscles like shit

raumdeuter:


The last CL you won, I saw a Bayern reject named Owen Hargreaves in the starting lineup

Bar his injury issues, how was Hargreaves a reject like Savic who simply couldn't make the grade at City?

Man, I really wanted atletico to win UCL. They deserve it but it's going to be very tough right now.

Dadehmola:
Bar his injury issues, how was Hargreaves a reject like Savic who simply couldn't make the grade at City?

Reject na reject whether na not making the grade due to young age or cos of injury. Reject na reject

You remember Van der Saar the keeper when you won was a Juve reject

MrTA:
Man, I really wanted atletico to win UCL. They deserve it but it's going to be very tough right now.

Yea me too . I always enjoy the story of the under dog.

See Fergie watching...

dmcdad:

Bruv that's not being emotional, it's being matured.

Why is it that you guys always say this when a niccur ain't ready to play the insults game

No vex, sorry

raumdeuter:
If the team Rijkaard left in 08 was that good they wont be trophyless in 2 years.

His last good team was the one to win a trophy was what I listed

So if Mourinho use the same players LvG used and finished 5th to win the league next season it would be said that it was LvG who built the team and Mourinho inherited a ready made team?

See how they are using excuses to tie themselves in a knot

Pep took a team who finished 18points behind the league leaders to win the treble 12 months later, they said he met a ready made team

If Mourinho takes LVG team who ended 15points behind league leaders to win the treble next year are we also going to say Mourinho met a ready made team?

Waiting to see how they spin this

Dopejemi

Kindly name the first 11 pep inherited or started with?

dopeJemi:


Kindly name the first 11 pep inherited or started with?

He inherited a team that has been trophyless for 2yrs and just finished 18points behind the league leaders

If Mourinho wins with these same United players next season should we say he inherited a ready made team from LvG?

ppl are still comparing mourinho n pep even when a champions league final is going on... i fear u ppl