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Don't Argue With An Atheist. The Bible Says So. by harsysky(m): 9:57am On May 29, 2016
I respect christians a whole lot. Christ had told us to go into the world and preach the gospel. The big question that often arises in my heart has always been these:

"Are we in all round doing what christ has told us especially when it comes to preaching the words of God?

" Are there sets of people who need these words eventhough it's for everyone?"

By the grace of God I have found answers to both and I'm very much thankful to God for revealing it to me.

To answer the first, I believe everyone knows or understands that John the baptist did not like the association of the pharisees. This is the instance "[Matthew 3] vs 7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? 8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance: 9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham." Why would John call them vipers or whatever? I believe it is because they claim they know much(typical life of an atheist). Jesus knew them well, too, to associate with them. He didn't preach to them. They came always just to argue but Jesus didn't argue with them-- He defeated them.

The answer to the second one is an emphatically Yes! There are sets of people who need this gospel;It is not for everyone. (NLT puts it well Mark 2 vs 17) When Jesus heard this, he told them,"Healthy people don't need a doctor--sick people do. I have come to call not those who think they are righteous, but those who know they are sinners."wink Mark the words- "who think and Who know."

I want to finally leave you all with this question, " Who is the SCORNFUL?"
What the scripture says concerning it. "Psalm 1 vs 1-- Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful."

Atheists are new version of the pharisees but this time, without pledging to any gods.

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Re: Don't Argue With An Atheist. The Bible Says So. by kingmexy1997(m): 9:59am On May 29, 2016
Bible said don't argue,but we should make them understand through the help of the holy spirit
Re: Don't Argue With An Atheist. The Bible Says So. by harsysky(m): 10:09am On May 29, 2016
kingmexy1997:
Bible said don't argue,but we should make them understand through the help of the holy spirit

To them who know their stance or who? I've always thought to myself, " Could Apostle Paul had be won through preaching or only through that intervention of Christ?" I think Apostle Paul could still have been won over but these atheists are worse than Paul. Atheists , to me , have reached a stage called the "apostasy" just like King ASA who served God for 42 years and fell off.
Re: Don't Argue With An Atheist. The Bible Says So. by anwe: 10:12am On May 29, 2016
Because a canal man will never understand the things of the spirit.

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Re: Don't Argue With An Atheist. The Bible Says So. by harsysky(m): 10:19am On May 29, 2016
anwe:

Because a canal man will never understand the things of the spirit.

That's just it! And some Christians think they can make them understand. You only pray for them and don't ever wish them bad.

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Re: Don't Argue With An Atheist. The Bible Says So. by neocortex: 10:35am On May 29, 2016
Well, I understand your fear, it is easy to get "infected"
with objectivity while arguing with an atheist, hence you
feel it is in your best interest to stay away from such.

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Re: Don't Argue With An Atheist. The Bible Says So. by harsysky(m): 10:48am On May 29, 2016
neocortex:
Well, I understand your fear, it is easy to get "infected"
with objectivity while arguing with an atheist, hence you
feel it is in your best interest to stay away from such.

I once listened to a sermon by TD jakes, he said " When you face the demon on the same ring that you must definitely lose. The devil is gonna hit ur career, ur family, ur everything and you would be left with nothing than to curse urself and God. Stay ouutta the ring and throw in scriptures and that'll defeat the demon". The christians are afraid to admit it, " An atheist must win in that arguement." So, it is better to make maximum use of our time as christians to help others who truely need our help.
Re: Don't Argue With An Atheist. The Bible Says So. by Nobody: 3:50pm On May 29, 2016
neocortex:
Well, I understand your fear, it is easy to get "infected"
with objectivity while arguing with an atheist, hence you
feel it is in your best interest to stay away from such.

grin
Re: Don't Argue With An Atheist. The Bible Says So. by cloudgoddess(f): 6:49pm On May 29, 2016
It amazes me the lengths that Christians go to defend themselves from rationality. "Keep away from those sneaky atheists, they use reasoning. They want evidence before they believe in things. Demons."

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Re: Don't Argue With An Atheist. The Bible Says So. by donnffd(m): 7:03pm On May 29, 2016
SMH...

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Re: Don't Argue With An Atheist. The Bible Says So. by harsysky(m): 7:50pm On May 29, 2016
cloudgoddess:
It amazes me the lengths that Christians go to defend themselves from rationality. "Keep away from those sneaky atheists, they use reasoning. They want evidence before they believe in things. Demons."
God bless you, good sister.
Re: Don't Argue With An Atheist. The Bible Says So. by Nobody: 8:26pm On May 29, 2016
DON'T ARGUE WITH AN ATHEIST CAUSE YOU CAN'T USE MYTH AND FAIRYTALES TO WIN LOGIC AND RATIONAL THINKING !!!

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Re: Don't Argue With An Atheist. The Bible Says So. by JustStardust: 9:10pm On May 29, 2016
harsysky:
I respect christians a whole lot. Christ had told us to go into the world and preach the gospel. The big question that often arises in my heart has always been these:

"Are we in all round doing what christ has told us especially when it comes to preaching the words of God?

" Are there sets of people who need these words eventhough it's for everyone?"

By the grace of God I have found answers to both and I'm very much thankful to God for revealing it to me.

To answer the first, I believe everyone knows or understands that John the baptist did not like the association of the pharisees. This is the instance "[Matthew 3] vs 7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? 8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance: 9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham." Why would John call them vipers or whatever? I believe it is because they claim they know much(typical life of an atheist). Jesus knew them well, too, to associate with them. He didn't preach to them. They came always just to argue but Jesus didn't argue with them-- He defeated them.

The answer to the second one is an emphatically Yes! There are sets of people who need this gospel;It is not for everyone. (NLT puts it well Mark 2 vs 17) When Jesus heard this, he told them,"Healthy people don't need a doctor--sick people do. I have come to call not those who think they are righteous, but those who know they are sinners."wink Mark the words- "who think and Who know."

I want to finally leave you all with this question, " Who is the SCORNFUL?"
What the scripture says concerning it. "Psalm 1 vs 1-- Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful."

Atheists are new version of the pharisees but this time, without pledging to any gods.

This is one of the most preposterous statements I have ever read in my entire life. It only clearly demonstrates the inconsistent logic ever-present in the utterances of faith-heads.

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Re: Don't Argue With An Atheist. The Bible Says So. by ValentineMary(m): 9:13pm On May 29, 2016
The OP is very funny. Reminds me of my roommate that said he would rather remian ignorant than stop believing in God. The irony of this statement is that he is not even sure what he believes is real because he is ignorant about it. SMH for religious fanatics.

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Re: Don't Argue With An Atheist. The Bible Says So. by mrZENographer: 9:20pm On May 29, 2016
cloudgoddess:
It amazes me the lengths that Christians go to defend themselves from rationality. "Keep away from those sneaky atheists, they use reasoning. They want evidence before they believe in things. Demons."

Evidence is coming if you are alive long enough to see the return of Jesus when all the tribes of the earth will mourn, just seeing him.

But if you aren't alive long enough, don't worry there is more than enough evidence after death. Downside is you can't return to tell your friends.
Re: Don't Argue With An Atheist. The Bible Says So. by cocoduck: 9:21pm On May 29, 2016
a warning to all atheists never you argue with a Jehovah's Witness, because they surly will defeat your "logical" thinking, honestly, because they are the ones who understand and study the bible deeply, a lot of so called Christians don't really know what the Bible is all about, that is why your "logic" defeats them.
Re: Don't Argue With An Atheist. The Bible Says So. by Nobody: 10:20pm On May 29, 2016
mrZENographer:


Evidence is coming if you are alive long enough to see the return of Jesus when all the tribes of the earth will mourn, just seeing him.

But if you aren't alive long enough, don't worry there is more than enough evidence after death. Downside is you can't return to tell your friends.
DID NOT THAT SAME JESUS TOLD HIS DISCIPLES THAT THEIR DAYS WILL NOT PASS WHEN HE WILL RETURN?? WAS HE LYING ABI THE GUY DON FORGET SAY HIN MAKE PROMISE?? LWKMD MY GUY OPEN UR EYES THIS IS THE REAL WORLD

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Re: Don't Argue With An Atheist. The Bible Says So. by Nobody: 10:25pm On May 29, 2016
cocoduck:
a warning to all atheists never you argue with a Jehovah's Witness, because they surly will defeat your "logical" thinking, honestly, because they are the ones who understand and study the bible deeply, a lot of so called Christians don't really know what the Bible is all about, that is why your "logic" defeats them.
ARE YOU ONE OF THEM?? EVEN THE BIBLE IS NOT "LOGICAL"

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Re: Don't Argue With An Atheist. The Bible Says So. by cocoduck: 11:12pm On May 29, 2016
Lilbrown007:
ARE YOU ONE OF THEM?? EVEN THE BIBLE IS NOT "LOGICAL"
go and try naaa
Rubbish, no Muslim ever Leaves their faith and makes any noise about it, but you will see church goers, who at no time took up the bible to study, always be making a fool of themselves, any ways I blame the churches themselves who have deviated and are after money and power, well the bible said it clearly, in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here for men will be lovers of themselves, fierce, not open to any agreement, lovers of money, professing a form of godly devotion but proving false to its power, so I am not surprised.
Re: Don't Argue With An Atheist. The Bible Says So. by kingmexy1997(m): 11:24pm On May 29, 2016
harsysky:


To them who know their stance or who? I've always thought to myself, " Could Apostle Paul had be won through preaching or only through that intervention of Christ?" I think Apostle Paul could still have been won over but these atheists are worse than Paul. Atheists , to me , have reached a stage called the "apostasy" just like King ASA who served God for 42 years and fell off.
men all things can happen through prayer

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Re: Don't Argue With An Atheist. The Bible Says So. by Nobody: 11:42pm On May 29, 2016
cocoduck:
go and try naaa
Rubbish, no Muslim ever Leaves their faith and makes any noise about it, but you will see church goers, who at no time took up the bible to study, always be making a fool of themselves, any ways I blame the churches themselves who have deviated and are after money and power, well the bible said it clearly, in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here for men will be lovers of themselves, fierce, not open to any agreement, lovers of money, professing a form of godly devotion but proving false to its power, so I am not surprised.
HAHA DID YOU JUST SAY IN THE LAST DAY?? WHICH LAST DAY?? DO U KNOW HOW OLD THIS UNIVERSE IS?? LOL FUNNY HOW JOHN THAT BAPTIST HAVE BEEN SCREAMING "REPENT FOR THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS AT HAND" 2000 YEARS AGO O DID U THINK WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW WASN'T HAPPENING THEN?? FUNNY THING IS THAT THE EARTH IS STILL GONNA LAST MILLIONS OF YEARS!!

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Re: Don't Argue With An Atheist. The Bible Says So. by cloudgoddess(f): 12:36am On May 30, 2016
cocoduck:

Rubbish, no Muslim ever Leaves their faith and makes any noise about it
http://ex-muslim.org.uk
http://www.theexmuslim.com
http://www.exmna.org

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Re: Don't Argue With An Atheist. The Bible Says So. by Weah96: 1:50am On May 30, 2016
Caucasians are rapidly removing the concepts of Bible god and Quran god from the minds of their young people. "White" countries are experiencing a new wave of reason, young people are embracing the freedom to question blind belief.

On the other hand, there has NEVER been this much religion in Africa. And the GULF in INFRASTRUCTURE and TECHNOLOGY has never been wider.

It's the plague of the collective time wasting disease
that is organized religion.

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Re: Don't Argue With An Atheist. The Bible Says So. by lepasharon(f): 3:43am On May 30, 2016
cocoduck:
a warning to all atheists never you argue with a Jehovah's Witness, because they surly will defeat your "logical" thinking, honestly, because they are the ones who understand and study the bible deeply, a lot of so called Christians don't really know what the Bible is all about, that is why your "logic" defeats them.

This is why ppl don't take ur religion seriously. Different Christian sects disagreeing with each other

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Re: Don't Argue With An Atheist. The Bible Says So. by onetrack(m): 7:34am On May 30, 2016
cocoduck:
a warning to all atheists never you argue with a Jehovah's Witness, because they surly will defeat your "logical" thinking, honestly, because they are the ones who understand and study the bible deeply, a lot of so called Christians don't really know what the Bible is all about, that is why your "logic" defeats them.

Jehovah's Witnesses? You mean the group that keeps predicting the end of the world and gets it wrong every time when the date passes and nothing happens? What date is the 'new' end of the world?

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Re: Don't Argue With An Atheist. The Bible Says So. by cocoduck: 8:11am On May 30, 2016
onetrack:


Jehovah's Witnesses? You mean the group that keeps predicting the end of the world and gets it wrong every time when the date passes and nothing happens? What date is the 'new' end of the world?
Jehovah's Witnesses have NEVER at any time predicted that the end if the world will be at so and so time, that has NEVER happened, those things were said by enemies and detractors to deceive people, Jesus himself, the only begotten son of Jehovah said to his disciples, concerning that day or hour, no man knows, only the Father, Jehovah knows when it will be, so who are Jehovah's Witnesses to say that the end will be at so an so time. Jesus only told everyone who cars to listen, the signs he or she will see, just as before a storm, you will clearly see signs that a storm is about to happen.
This predicting the world by JW is a Huge lie, I know you will start quoting watchtower of 1520s to prove it, that is what your likes normally do, so I expect it, but no such nonsense was ever printed on any watchtower, ever you people are the ones who keep faking these things.
Re: Don't Argue With An Atheist. The Bible Says So. by cocoduck: 8:23am On May 30, 2016
lepasharon:


This is why ppl don't take ur religion seriously. Different Christian sects disagreeing with each other
True Christian faith is not for everyone, Jesus said, the road that is broad and spacious, is leading to destruction, and MANY are the ones finding and taking that route, but narrow and Cramped is the road that leads to life and few are the ones finding it, Jesus commanded his disciples to preach from door to door to whoever that cares to listen, who are the ones doing that today? The bible said it clearly, apostle Paul said, I know that when we go away (die) many people will spring up and twist the the faith, and will deceive many into leaving the real faith and will not treat the ones who refused to follow them with kindness, is it not what is happening? BTW somebody said the bible is illogical, lols, this is not the first time somebody has made such a statement, but all those who said that, hundreds of years ago, where are they today? Forgotten. Where is the bible today? That is a question.

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Re: Don't Argue With An Atheist. The Bible Says So. by cocoduck: 8:28am On May 30, 2016
Weah96:
Caucasians are rapidly removing the concepts of Bible god and Quran god from the minds of their young people. "White" countries are experiencing a new wave of reason, young people are embracing the freedom to question blind belief.

On the other hand, there has NEVER been this much religion in Africa. And the GULF in INFRASTRUCTURE and TECHNOLOGY has never been wider.

It's the plague of the collective time wasting disease
that is organized religion.

That is a not entirely true, many people are leaving the churches, but as for JW, the population in these countries keep increasing, because of the effort JW make to go from house to house and teach people what their pastors couldn't teach them. The number of congregations of JW keep on increasing both in the US and Europe, despite persecution. Okay?
Re: Don't Argue With An Atheist. The Bible Says So. by onetrack(m): 8:31am On May 30, 2016
cocoduck:
Jehovah's Witnesses have NEVER at any time predicted that the end if the world will be at so and so time, that has NEVER happened, those things were said by enemies and detractors to deceive people, Jesus himself, the only begotten son of Jehovah said to his disciples, concerning that day or hour, no man knows, only the Father, Jehovah knows when it will be, so who are Jehovah's Witnesses to say that the end will be at so an so time. Jesus only told everyone who cars to listen, the signs he or she will see, just as before a storm, you will clearly see signs that a storm is about to happen.
This predicting the world by JW is a Huge lie, I know you will start quoting watchtower of 1520s to prove it, that is what your likes normally do, so I expect it, but no such nonsense was ever printed on any watchtower, ever you people are the ones who keep faking these things.

No. They predicted that the "God's Kingdom" would come in 1914, and when that failed, they said it would come in 1925. That failed too. Then they began to say that God's Kingdom would not actually eliminate all non-believers, but rather it would occur on earth among the non-believers, and had already started. Since then they have given up trying to predict an actual year.

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Re: Don't Argue With An Atheist. The Bible Says So. by Joagbaje(m): 8:35am On May 30, 2016
harsysky:


That's just it! And some Christians think they can make them understand. You only pray for them and don't ever wish them bad.

You're right , you can't argue a man into salvation . It's by revelation . But you can debate or discus if there need be. Especially if they give listening ear. Paul debated with people in his time . And won many eventually

Acts 19:9-10
But when divers were hardened, and believed not, but spake evil of that way before the multitude, he departed from them, and separated the disciples, disputing daily in the school of one Tyrannus. And this continued by the space of two years; so that all they which dwelt in Asia heard the word of the Lord Jesus, both Jews and Greeks.


But the mockers should be avoided .

2 Timothy 2:23-25
But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes. And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

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Re: Don't Argue With An Atheist. The Bible Says So. by cocoduck: 8:39am On May 30, 2016
Lilbrown007:
HAHA DID YOU JUST SAY IN THE LAST DAY?? WHICH LAST DAY?? DO U KNOW HOW OLD THIS UNIVERSE IS?? LOL FUNNY HOW JOHN THAT BAPTIST HAVE BEEN SCREAMING "REPENT FOR THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS AT HAND" 2000 YEARS AGO O DID U THINK WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW WASN'T HAPPENING THEN?? FUNNY THING IS THAT THE EARTH IS STILL GONNA LAST MILLIONS OF YEARS!!
If you don't understand something then ask, it will be laid bare to you, Ecclesiastics said generations come and go, but the earth stands till FOREVER, so at no time will this physical ground be destroyed, when the Bible says world, it really means PEOPLE, you and I and everyone around us Okay?
The way we count time and the way God counts time is not the same at all, we hardly make 100 years vs SomeOne who lives forever, (believe it or not), at a time in the bible, it is written that one thousand years in our eyes are His one day, so 2000 years is like two days ago. Now do you give a tenant two days quit notice? hahahahaha, you will give him enough time to leave the house, don't take His patience as a weakness.

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Re: Don't Argue With An Atheist. The Bible Says So. by Nobody: 8:50am On May 30, 2016
cocoduck:
If you don't understand something then ask, it will be laid bare to you, Ecclesiastics said generations come and go, but the earth stands till FOREVER, so at no time will this physical ground be destroyed, when the Bible says world, it really means PEOPLE, you and I and everyone around us Okay?
The way we count time and the way God counts time is not the same at all, we hardly make 100 years vs SomeOne who lives forever, (believe it or not), at a time in the bible, it is written that one thousand years in our eyes are His one day, so 2000 years is like two days ago. Now do you give a tenant two days quit notice? hahahahaha, you will give him enough time to leave the house, don't take His patience as a weakness.
YEAH WE KNOW THE BIBLE CONTRADICT ITSELF A LOT TANKS FOR REMINDING ME I WONDER WHAT REVELATION SAYS ABOUT THAT

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